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11/19/2025 01:30 PM House LEGISLATIVE BUDGET & AUDIT

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01:34:28 PM Start
01:35:33 PM Approval of Agenda
01:35:53 PM Alaska Lng Project
04:16:09 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ I. Approval of the Agenda TELECONFERENCED
+ II. Alaska LNG Project TELECONFERENCED
a. “Key Issues: Legislative and Policy Actions
for Alaska LNG” by Gaffney Cline
• Nick Fulford, Senior Director and Global Head
of Gas & LNG
• Fred Weltge, Senior Advisor, Economics &
Value Assurance
• Andrew Duncan, Director, Facilities & Costing
Engineering
b. “Alaska LNG Update” by Alaska Gasline
Development Corporation (AGDC)
• Frank Richards, President
• Matt Kissinger, Venture Development Manager
c. Presentation by Glenfarne Alaska LNG
• Adam Prestidge, President
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
             LEGISLATIVE BUDGET AND AUDIT COMMITTEE                                                                           
                       November 19, 2025                                                                                        
                       Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                        
                           1:34 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elvi Gray-Jackson, Chair                                                                                                
Senator Bert Stedman                                                                                                            
Senator Cathy Giessel                                                                                                           
Senator Bill Wielechowski (via teleconference)                                                                                  
Representative Andy Josephson                                                                                                   
Representative Chuck Kopp                                                                                                       
Representative Cathy Tilton                                                                                                     
Representative Bryce Edgmon (alternate)                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Zack Fields, Vice Chair                                                                                          
Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                           
Representative Neal Foster                                                                                                      
Senator Scott Kawasaki (alternate)                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
APPROVAL OF AGENDA                                                                                                              
ALASKA LNG PROJECT                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
NICK FULFORD, Senior Director                                                                                                   
Gas/LNG and Energy Transition                                                                                                   
GaffneyCline                                                                                                                    
London, England                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:  Co-offered the Alaska LNG Project                                                                        
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
FRED WELTGE, Senior Advisor                                                                                                     
Economics & Value Assurance, GaffneyCline                                                                                       
London, England                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:  Co-offered the Alaska LNG Project                                                                        
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ANDREW DUNCAN, Director of Facilities & Costing Engineering                                                                     
GaffneyCline                                                                                                                    
Singapore                                                                                                                       
POSITION   STATEMENT:     Co-offered  the   Alaska  LNG   Project                                                             
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
FRANK RICHARDS, President                                                                                                       
Alaska Gasline Development Corporation                                                                                          
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION   STATEMENT:     Co-offered  the   Alaska  LNG   Project                                                             
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MATT KISSINGER, Venture Development Manager                                                                                     
Alaska Gasline Development Corporation                                                                                          
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION   STATEMENT:     Co-offered  the   Alaska  LNG   Project                                                             
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ADAM PRESTIDGE, President                                                                                                       
Glenfarne Alaska;                                                                                                               
Co-President, 8 Star Alaska, LLC                                                                                                
Houston, Texas                                                                                                                  
POSITION   STATEMENT:     Co-offered  the   Alaska  LNG   Project                                                             
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:34:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ELVI  GRAY-JACKSON called the Legislative  Budget and Audit                                                             
Committee  meeting  to  order  at   1:34  p.m.    Representatives                                                               
Josephson,  Kopp, Tilton,  and  Edgmon  (alternate) and  Senators                                                               
Stedman,  Wielechowski (via  teleconference), Giessel,  and Gray-                                                               
Jackson were  present at the  call to  order.  Also  present were                                                               
Representatives Holland, Coulombe, and Mears and Senator Kiehl.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
[Due  to  technical  difficulties,  portions  of  the  audio  are                                                               
indiscernible throughout.]                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
^APPROVAL OF AGENDA                                                                                                             
                       APPROVAL OF AGENDA                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
1:35:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GRAY-JACKSON announced  that the  first order  of business                                                               
would be the approval of the agenda.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EDGMON  moved  that the  Legislative  Budget  and                                                               
Audit Committee  approve the agenda.   There being  no objection,                                                               
the agenda was approved.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
^ALASKA LNG PROJECT                                                                                                             
                       ALASKA LNG PROJECT                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
1:35:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GRAY-JACKSON announced  that  the next  order of  business                                                               
would be the Alaska LNG Project presentation.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:43:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NICK  FULFORD, Senior  Director, Gas/LNG  and Energy  Transition,                                                               
GaffneyCline,  stated that  much of  today's material  relates to                                                               
how  other   projects  have  created  enabling   legislation  for                                                               
liquefied natural  gas (LNG).   He further  noted that  the costs                                                               
and prices referenced in the  presentation are merely examples to                                                               
help   offer  insight   into  the   Alaska  Gasline   Development                                                               
Corporation  (AGDC)   and  Glenfarne's  development  work.     He                                                               
explained  that some  of the  projects  and enabling  legislation                                                               
involve two layers of  government: state/provincial, and federal.                                                               
He  reminded the  committee  that any  initiatives  taken by  the                                                               
federal government, particularly related  to funding or taxation,                                                               
could materially  affect how the  state broaches the  same topic.                                                               
He referred  to the PowerPoint presentation,  titled "Key Issues:                                                               
Legislative  and  Policy  Actions  for  Alaska  LNG"  [hard  copy                                                               
included in the  committee packet], beginning with  the agenda on                                                               
slide  2, which  outlined  the following  topics: scene  setting,                                                               
state participation  in project  success, Canadian  Pacific Coast                                                               
projects,  phase  1  gas   pipeline  considerations,  and  market                                                               
backdrop for enabling legislation.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:47:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FULFORD turned to slide 4,  "Scale and Impact," which read as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     •20 Million Tonnes Per Annum (MTPA)                                                                                        
     -1 billion therms per annum                                                                                                
     -Typical delivered price in Asia $11/MMBtu                                                                                 
     -$11 bn per annum                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     •LNG Revenue relative to GDP                                                                                               
     -Alaska ~20%                                                                                                               
     -Compared to Texas <0.5%                                                                                                   
     -LNG Canada boost of 3% for BC                                                                                             
        o Estimated Provincial revenues of $78 Bn by 2064                                                                       
        o Supporting 71,000 jobs                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     •35 trilling cubic feet (Tcf) of proven gas*                                                                               
     •Potential delivered LNG revenue of over $400 Bn                                                                           
     •Significant  potential upside  of further  200 Tcf  of                                                                    
     gas                                                                                                                        
     -Equivalent to over $2Trillion                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     •Capital deployment  for AK  LNG is  almost exclusively                                                                    
     in midstream                                                                                                               
     •Gas cost and shipping may  equate to under 20% of cost                                                                    
     of gas sold                                                                                                                
     -In Texas this figure is nearer to 60%                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.   FULFORD    emphasized   that    the   project    would   be                                                               
transformational and should it be  successful, would affect every                                                               
facet  of  life in  Alaska.    He  characterized the  Alaska  LNG                                                               
project as an infrastructure project  that happens to be carrying                                                               
gas, likening it  to an airport, highway, or bridge.   He said it                                                               
would be  a huge  deployment of  capital paid  for by  decades of                                                               
steady revenue.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:52:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FULFORD  continued to slide  5, "Exposure to  Capital Costs,"                                                               
which   calculated   the   economic   (indisc.)   available   for                                                               
processing, pipeline,  and liquification by subtracting  the cost                                                               
of  gas  ($1.00)  and  the  cost of  shipping  ($0.75)  from  the                                                               
delivered gas  price ($11.05), resulting  in a  midstream process                                                               
cost of $9.30 for Alaska that  is 84 percent of the landed value.                                                               
Slide 5 read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     •Compared to  US Gulf Coast  projects, the  majority of                                                                    
     the cost  of delivered LNG  from Alaska will  relate to                                                                    
     capital investment.                                                                                                        
     •Thus, the  value of the  delivered gas  is underpinned                                                                    
     predominantly  from the  infrastructure costs,  not the                                                                    
     upstream gas production.                                                                                                   
     •Robust cost estimation for  FEED and exemplary project                                                                    
     management of the EPC contract are thus essential.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FULFORD concluded  that  assessing  and controlling  capital                                                               
deployment  on the  midstream intertie  issue is  key.   He added                                                               
that for  Alaska LNG, midstream  risk is high, but  upstream risk                                                               
is low, which is not typical of all LNG projects.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL  asked how Mr.  Fulford arrived at $1.00  for the                                                               
cost of gas in Alaska.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:55:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FULFORD  said the  $1.00  figure  is  based  on a  range  of                                                               
historical presentations.   He acknowledged  that this is  one of                                                               
the significant  pieces of the  puzzle that needs to  be factored                                                               
in  as a  higher  cost  of gas  would  change  the proportion  of                                                               
infrastructure.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEDMAN asked whether the  delivered gas price is a rough                                                               
target (indisc.) that everything must fit into.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. FULFORD  said like the  Canadian projects, the  main benefits                                                               
of Alaska  LNG is  low-cost gas and  shipping, leaving  much more                                                               
room  in  the  economic  value  chain to  invest  in  large  sums                                                               
required for  the pipeline  processing.  To  the extent  that the                                                               
low-cost  gas equation  doesn't come  to fruition,  more pressure                                                               
would be put on the rest of the project to deliver.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:57:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON  expressed  concern  about  substantial                                                               
diminishment in  value to  the state treasury.   He  referenced a                                                               
PowerPoint  on Senate  Bill 138  by  former Commissioner  Angella                                                               
Rodell from March 10, 2014, that  on slide 12, indicated that the                                                               
numbers wouldn't change much under  any scenario and the net cash                                                               
flow to  the state would be  $3.2 billion per year.   Perhaps the                                                               
number  would  be  closer  to   an  excess  of  $2  billion  when                                                               
accounting  for property  taxes, he  noted.   He highlighted  the                                                               
state's  stark  operating  budget   and  the  need  for  deferred                                                               
maintenance around the  state, adding that that the  needs of the                                                               
people cannot  be met at  present.  He  asked where the  other $2                                                               
billion went.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. FULFORD questioned, rhetorically,  how to address the project                                                               
in a  way that enables it  to succeed while plugging  some of the                                                               
gaps in the state budget.   He said getting started and making it                                                               
to  Front-End  Engineering  Design  (FEED) is  one  of  the  most                                                               
difficult aspects  of an LNG  project, because the  economics are                                                               
always  challenging due  to  razor thin  margins.   However,  the                                                               
projects often  perform better  than designed  after a  few years                                                               
once they are initiated.  He  spoke to the generational impact on                                                               
standards of  living that these  projects offer.  Were  the state                                                               
to take an equity stake in  the project, sometimes the equity can                                                               
be  carried and  paid for  by future  revenues.   Nonetheless, he                                                               
urged  the  legislature  to   weigh  the  long-term  generational                                                               
impacts on schools and hospitals,  for example, against the needs                                                               
to get the project going.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:03:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FULFORD  resumed the  presentation with  a discussion  of the                                                               
state's participation in  project success.  He  referred to slide                                                               
7,  "Nature  of  Fiscal/  Legislative  Package,"  which  read  as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     •Fiscal and legislative package has three purposes                                                                         
     ?Risk sharing between government and project sponsor                                                                       
     ?Clarify tax burden/level of government take                                                                               
      ?Detail regulatory requirements/allowances and state                                                                      
     involvement                                                                                                                
      •Legislation / fiscal framework needs to be stable,                                                                       
        transparent and potentially flexible to project                                                                         
     performance and market conditions                                                                                          
       ?Allowances and/or progressive fiscal elements are                                                                       
     commonly incorporated                                                                                                      
      •State participation creates opportunities for risk                                                                       
     sharing and value creation.                                                                                                
      Project specific enabling legislation is common for                                                                       
     LNG projects                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. FULFORD added  that of the $11 million, if  the state were to                                                               
take a 25 percent interest  in the project, $2.4-$3 million would                                                               
come  back to  the state.   He  added that  deciding about  state                                                               
participation would be key because  the life of the project could                                                               
be between 30 to  50 years.  A common feature  of LNG projects is                                                               
the equation of  how to design a progressive  fiscal package that                                                               
could address changes in LNG  price, changes in demand, and other                                                               
variable factors.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:06:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GIESSEL  sought  to  confirm  that  as  Mr.  Fulford  is                                                               
contracted by the legislature as  a consultant, they could expect                                                               
to receive specific  advice from his company,  GaffneyCline.  She                                                               
asked whether that is part of the contract.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. FULFORD  answered yes,  that could certainly  be part  of the                                                               
contract.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GIESSEL asked  whether the  legislature could  expect to                                                               
receive specific  financial recommendations from Mr.  Weltge, the                                                               
fiscal specialist.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:07:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
FRED  WELTGE,  Senior  Advisor,   Economics  &  Value  Assurance,                                                               
GaffneyCline, responded  GaffneyCline would  be in a  position to                                                               
support the legislature and any  considerations or proposals they                                                               
might field  on changes  to fiscal packages.   Before  then, they                                                               
could also support  in the valuation or various  value impacts of                                                               
potential  changes  to   fiscal  burdens,  timelines,  regulatory                                                               
issues,  or   changes  in   project  nature.     He   added  that                                                               
GaffneyCline often  advises governments on the  impact of changes                                                               
to the fiscal burden along  with sensitivities to the assumptions                                                               
underpinning  the  development  of   the  facility,  as  well  as                                                               
potential  production  that would  be  marketed  through the  LNG                                                               
facility.   He said wide-ranging  support could be  provided, but                                                               
the extent to which that has been conducted today is limited.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL asked the chair  to request that kind of detailed                                                               
recommendations  from   the  consultants.    She   presumed  that                                                               
GaffneyCline  is familiar  with  Alaska's  tax structure,  adding                                                               
that she would be interested in further specifics.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:09:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEDMAN  sought clarification  on whether the  25 percent                                                               
equity ownership would include or exclude Alaska's royalties.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. FULFORD  said under prior  legislation [Senate Bill  138], it                                                               
was an  integrated project from  the upstream to the  delivery of                                                               
the LNG  and one of the  features was that the  state could elect                                                               
to take taxes,  gas, and royalties in kind.   That approximate 25                                                               
percent  stake  would have  continued  through  the entire  value                                                               
chain.   He  said there  are many  aspects of  the project  to be                                                               
defined.   Currently, one of  the concepts being developed  is to                                                               
purchase the  gas into  the processing plant  on the  North Slope                                                               
and  move it  from there,  in which  case the  25 percent  equity                                                               
stake would  start where the gas  enters the plant, so  the state                                                               
would still  have its  production tax  and royalty  revenues from                                                               
the gas.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:11:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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MR.  FULFORD, in  response to  a question  from Senator  Stedman,                                                               
said if an arm's length exists  between the gas producers and the                                                               
project, there would  be no reason to change the  gas tax regime,                                                               
which is what was done with LNG Canada.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:12:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEDMAN commented  on  the state's  fiscal position  and                                                               
asked (indisc.).                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FULFORD   clarified  that  all   the  fiscal   and  enabling                                                               
legislation is a  result of a balanced dialogue  between the host                                                               
nation and  the project where  some tax rebates might  be offered                                                               
in the short-term,  but there's tangible value  in the long-term.                                                               
He acknowledged  that the  capital costs of  the project  and its                                                               
broader economics are  unknown, so it would  be inappropriate for                                                               
the  state  to  change  fiscal arrangements  until  that  becomes                                                               
better defined.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:15:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEDMAN  said he understood the  multigenerational impact                                                               
to the state,  but he expressed concern about  the project's cash                                                               
flow.   He pointed out that  if it's successful it  would be very                                                               
beneficial, but if  its unsuccessful it could  be detrimental for                                                               
generations.   He said  GaffneyCline needs  to integrate  it with                                                               
the state's fiscal regime (indisc.)                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. FULFORD responded that an  upcoming slide addresses framework                                                               
development,  which  includes  the   creation  of  an  open  book                                                               
economic model (OBEM).   These are the types  of tangible details                                                               
that  would be  available to  determine  how the  state wants  to                                                               
enter  into the  bargain with  the developer  to ensure  fair and                                                               
equitable value.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEDMAN said the Trump  administration is a wild card and                                                               
seems to have all the leverage in this game.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FULFORD recalled  one of his disclaimers at  the beginning of                                                               
his   presentation,  regarding   the   impact   of  the   federal                                                               
government's  decisions and  its transformational  effect on  the                                                               
project's  economics  and  the  extent to  which  the  burden  is                                                               
shifted  from the  state to  a combination  of state  and federal                                                               
assessments.   He commented  on the  U.S. Department  of Energy's                                                               
(USDOE's)  loan office  and the  cancellation  of certain  energy                                                               
projects.   He speculated  that as that  money is  channeled into                                                               
energy infrastructure and energy dominance,  there seems to be an                                                               
open  door  there  for  the   Alaska  project  to  benefit.    He                                                               
reiterated  that  LNG  Canada  is   a  textbook  example  of  the                                                               
provincial  government's goals  aligning with  federal government                                                               
goals  surrounding gas  exports to  the Pacific,  resulting in  a                                                               
combined  package of  measures that  led almost  directly to  the                                                               
Final Investment Decision (FID).                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEDMAN asked how they dealt with cost overruns.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. FULFORD said the majority of  the cost overrun related to the                                                               
pipeline, so  at the project  outset, they entered  into detailed                                                               
agreements  concerning how  the  pipeline would  be  funded.   He                                                               
added  that  a tariff  would  have  been  agreed upon.    Whether                                                               
TransCanada  is  able to  go  back  and  reset  the tariff  in  a                                                               
different way,  is dependent on  the commercial tariff,  which is                                                               
inaccessible to GaffneyCline.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEDMAN  suggested  looking   at  that  budget  to  help                                                               
understand the cost overruns.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:20:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FULFORD emphasized  that  ultimately, the  value  is in  the                                                               
creation  of a  viable  project,  and getting  a  project to  FID                                                               
that's economically  profitable remains  the prime driver  of the                                                               
state  and  project  sponsors.   Beyond  that,  he  outlined  the                                                               
primary goals  of the  state and project  developers on  slide 8,                                                               
which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     State Objectives                                                                                                           
      •Realize appropriate level of value from hydrocarbon                                                                      
     resources                                                                                                                  
      ?Complex consideration that requires private capital                                                                      
     and marketing                                                                                                              
     •Utilize state benefits based on government priorities                                                                     
       •Ensure energy security and optimal management of                                                                        
     resources                                                                                                                  
     •Enable economic activity and job growth                                                                                   
       •Oversee that environment and safety standards are                                                                       
     maintained                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Developer Objectives                                                                                                       
     •Achieve appropriate levels of shareholder returns                                                                         
     •Grow in a globally competitive LNG supply                                                                                 
     •Serve customers and strengthen relationship                                                                               
     •Generate reliable business case and forecasts                                                                             
     -Require fiscal  understanding and stability  over life                                                                    
     of projects                                                                                                                
     Existing examples  of LNG  enabling legislation  can be                                                                    
     used to guide approach for AK LNG                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:23:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GIESSEL pointed  out that  providing  affordable gas  to                                                               
Alaskans  is a  key piece  that  rivals the  economics of  fiscal                                                               
return to the state.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. FULFORD said the point made  by Senator Giessel is one aspect                                                               
that makes  this project unique.   He turned to slide  9, "Fiscal                                                               
Stability,"   which  read   as   follows  [original   punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     •Fiscal  Stabilization   is  a  contractual   or  legal                                                                    
     provision that guarantees  investors protection against                                                                    
     adverse   legislative   changes   to   the   originally                                                                    
     envisioned economic terms during the life of a project                                                                     
     •Higher commitment  of capital and longer  project time                                                                    
     horizons   result  in   greater   emphasis  on   fiscal                                                                    
     stability                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Fixed Terms "Tax Freeze"                                                                                                   
     The  tax  system  applicable at  the  time  of  signing                                                                    
     remains  unchanged for  the project  life specified  in                                                                    
     law or contract.                                                                                                           
          •Qatargas I & II                                                                                                      
          •Papua New Guinea (PNG)                                                                                               
          •Sakhalin LNG                                                                                                         
          •LNG Canada                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Economic Equilibrium Stabilization                                                                                         
     If  tax changes  are introduced,  the government  makes                                                                    
     other beneficial  adjustments or  otherwise compensates                                                                    
     investor to retain the original economic impact.                                                                           
          •Mozambique                                                                                                           
          •P'Nyang LNG (PNG)                                                                                                    
          •Grande Tortue Ahmeyim (GTA)                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:24:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FULFORD likened the Alaska  LNG project to committing four or                                                               
five Willow projects at the same  time, so the order of magnitude                                                               
of capital outlay  is huge by Alaska and global  standards.  As a                                                               
result, fiscal stability always features high on the dialogue.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:26:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[Due to technical difficulties, sound was lost briefly.]                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. FULFORD,  in response to  Senator Stedman, recalled  from his                                                               
own  involvement  with  the Department  of  Revenue  (DOR)  after                                                               
Senate  Bill  138, that  the  constitutional  features of  fiscal                                                               
stability concerns from producers  were discussed at some length.                                                               
He said it's a feature that  often applies with host nations, and                                                               
one that's been  litigated as well, as not  all fiscal agreements                                                               
have gone as planned.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON  echoed Senator Stedman's concerns.   He                                                               
referenced the Natural  Gas Act of 1938 ("Standard  Gas Act") and                                                               
the effort in the 2000s, as well  as the request for that sort of                                                               
guaranteed commitment that ultimately, the state could not give.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KOPP shared  his  understanding  that the  buyers                                                               
want  20  to 30  years  of  stability,  and  that among  all  LNG                                                               
producing jurisdictions, Alaska's fiscal  framework may be out of                                                               
alignment.   Given those factors, he  said the state may  need to                                                               
consider a  reality where the  project doesn't move forward.   He                                                               
emphasized  that  a 42-inch  pipeline  isn't  built for  in-state                                                               
needs  alone,  adding that  it  must  go  to export  and  attract                                                               
customers.  He asked whether that is correct.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FULFORD acknowledged  Representative  Kopp's  analysis.   He                                                               
pointed out  that in many jurisdictions,  enabling legislation is                                                               
built from  the ground up.   One way the state  can approach this                                                               
is with "a clean sheet of  paper," he said, and by evaluating all                                                               
of  these different  features, including  affordable energy,  and                                                               
design  a  framework  that's  fit  for  purpose  and  creates  an                                                               
equitable split between developers and the state.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:31:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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MR.  FULFORD,  in  response  to   Senator  Stedman,  said  almost                                                               
everything would have to be set prior to FID.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEDMAN stated,  "when we get into oil tax  that's a two-                                                               
year deal."   He  shared his understanding  that Mr.  Fulford had                                                               
stated that  Alaska's system might be  out of balance.   He added                                                               
that FID won't be in the future for quite a while.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   KOPP  asked   whether  abating   something  like                                                               
property tax alone could be enough to move the needle.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FULFORD  suggested  that  one of  the  first  decisions  the                                                               
legislature  might want  to take  is a  strategy of  new project-                                                               
driven enabling  legislation or  amending existing  fiscal terms.                                                               
All of which involve the project developers.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GIESSEL replied  that would  take a  lot of  legislative                                                               
time.   She stated that the  first sentence on slide  9 makes her                                                               
uncomfortable, and  questioned how Alaska  would constitutionally                                                               
or  rationally  "enact  contractual   or  legal  provisions  that                                                               
guarantee  investors   protection  against   adverse  legislative                                                               
changes to  the originally envisioned  economic terms  during the                                                               
life of a project."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. FULFORD explained that not  all forms of fiscal stability are                                                               
contractual.   Ultimately,  this language  speaks to  creating an                                                               
investment   environment  where   developers  and   lenders  have                                                               
sufficient  faith in  the lack  of variability  in setting  taxes                                                               
such that  the cost of  debt is low and  the hurtle rate  is low.                                                               
With LNG  Canada, he said,  there was no formal  fiscal stability                                                               
signed for  that project.   It was  done through  assurances from                                                               
federal and provisional government about  not changing taxes in a                                                               
way that would adversely affect the project.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:36:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EDGMON  asked whether federal involvement  in this                                                               
project  is  enough  to  offset  getting  fiscal  stability  from                                                               
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. FULFORD  stated, "If  we were having  this discussion  in the                                                               
late  1960s  for the  first  Nikiski  project, that  project  was                                                               
launched through  a treaty  between the U.S.  and Japan,  as many                                                               
projects  were in  those  days."   Over the  years,  he said  LNG                                                               
projects   have  become   much  more   commercially  driven   and                                                               
government involvement  has lessened.   Now, there's  an argument                                                               
that government-to-government dialogue  is an extremely important                                                               
part, and it's  conceivable that a degree of support  - policy or                                                               
otherwise - from the federal  government could ameliorate some of                                                               
the fiscal questions.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:39:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FULFORD  noted  the  quotes   about  fiscal  stability  from                                                               
investors and host nations on slides  10 and 11, and continued to                                                               
slide  12,   which  listed  examples  of   disputes  over  fiscal                                                               
stability  wherein  taxes  were  changed,  and  the  compact  was                                                               
altered.   In an international  contract, these usually go  to an                                                               
international court of  arbitration.  In general,  he stated that                                                               
arbitrators have sided  with project investors in  the sense that                                                               
if  there  was  an  expectation of  fiscal  stability  when  they                                                               
invested their capital, that expectation should be maintained.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:41:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FULFORD  turned to  slide  13,  "Property Tax  Implication,"                                                               
which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     •Due to  the capital and  time required to  develop the                                                                    
     pipeline  and facilities,  taxes  and  duties that  are                                                                    
     implemented at early  stages of the project  can have a                                                                    
     disproportionately  adverse  effect   on  the  economic                                                                    
     value and returns                                                                                                          
     ?It is common for other jurisdictions to offer holidays                                                                    
     or exemptions on  early taxes/duties/levies like import                                                                    
     taxes, VAT, etc.                                                                                                           
     •Thus,  Alaska's Property  Tax  is one  of the  biggest                                                                    
     potential burdens on project economics                                                                                     
     •At $1/MMBtu it  could represent a similar  cost to the                                                                    
     gas supply into the processing plant                                                                                       
     •If the project were to  start in phases, impact likely                                                                    
     to be higher                                                                                                               
     •Considerable work  carried out to assess  a Payment in                                                                    
     Lieu of Tax in the 2015-2017 timeframe                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Feature                            Impact                                                                                  
     Assumed Capital                    $50 Bn                                                                                  
     Initial tax burden*                $1 Bn                                                                                   
     Cost Impact                        $1/MMBtu                                                                                
     % Increase to Delivered            9%                                                                                      
     Cost of LNG                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     *Based on a 2% tax on capital value in year 1                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEDMAN  said the property  tax would affect  his borough                                                               
as much as Fairbanks, for example.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
[Due to technical difficulties, sound was lost briefly.]                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. FULFORD  said one  question is  what level  of tax  should be                                                               
levied and  another is how it  should be distributed.   These are                                                               
questions that  he declined to  comment on but  acknowledged that                                                               
the legislature would want to address them going forward.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:44:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON  referring  to   slide  13,  asked  why                                                               
Alaska's property tax is one  of the biggest potential burdens on                                                               
project economics  given the "tax  holiday" that's built  into AS                                                               
43.56.020.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. FULFORD shared his understanding  that the holiday applies up                                                               
to first  gas, so while  it would  have a beneficial  effect, the                                                               
tax would  immediately represent  a large cost  as soon  as first                                                               
gas starts.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   JOSEPHSON  said   he  can't   fathom  that   the                                                               
legislature  would  have the  kind  of  time to  entertain  these                                                               
issues before  FID, and if  that's a requirement, it  couldn't be                                                               
done even if they wanted to.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FULFORD stated  that these  massive infrastructure  projects                                                               
encounter  all sorts  of seemingly  unsurmountable problems.   He                                                               
confirmed  that it  would  require  significant dialogue  between                                                               
stakeholders about  ways that  these fiscal  items could  be left                                                               
open to some degree while FID is pursued.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:47:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL  pointed out that  the legislature has  not heard                                                               
from Glenfarne  or AGDC about  needing to make fiscal  changes to                                                               
Alaska's  tax  structure.    She   asked  why  this  hasn't  been                                                               
communicated.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. FULFORD  said he's sure these  things are on their  minds and                                                               
deferred to Glenfarne and AGDC.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL clarified  that Glenfarne and AGDC  had stated in                                                               
previous legislative  hearings that no legislative  changes would                                                               
be needed.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:49:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FULFORD resumed  the presentation on slide  14, "Federal Loan                                                               
Guarantee,"   which  read   as   follows  [original   punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     •Federal loan  guarantees will reduce the  cost of debt                                                                    
     for the LNG project                                                                                                        
     •Material benefit given size of capital outlay                                                                             
     •Exact  terms  and  debt  arrangements  will  determine                                                                    
     impact                                                                                                                     
     •Likely to be in the $0.3-0.4/MMBtu range                                                                                  
     •Amounts to 3  4% on cost of delivered gas **                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Feature             Metric    Annual         Levelized                                                                     
                                   Cost           Cost*                                                                         
     Assumed Debt        $30 Bn                                                                                                 
     Assumed Interest                                                                                                           
     rate without                                                                                                               
     credit support      6.5%      $1.95 Bn       $2.7Bn                                                                        
     Assumed Interest                                                                                                           
     rate with                                                                                                                  
     credit support      5%        $1.5 Bn        $2.4Bn                                                                        
     Annual saving                 $450 m         $300m                                                                         
     Saving in Cost of                                                                                                          
     Delivered Gas                 $0.45/MMBtu   $0.3/MMBtu                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     *Including amortization and repayment over 20 years                                                                        
     ** based on December 2025  JKM futures price. Effect of                                                                    
     loan guarantee  assumed to  be a  reduction of  1.5% in                                                                    
     cost   of    debt,   based   on    prior   AGDC/Woodmac                                                                    
     presentations.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. FULFORD emphasized that aside from property tax, federal                                                                    
loan guarantee is the next biggest item that could affect the                                                                   
economics of the project.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEDMAN asked for a definition of federal loan                                                                          
guarantee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. FULFORD said he did not have the details at this time.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:51:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FULFORD continued to slide 15, "Relationship of Oil and Gas                                                                 
Production," which read as follows [original punctuation                                                                        
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     •Mature  fields   commonly  transition   from  liquids-                                                                    
     dominated  production  to  gas  focused  production  at                                                                    
     later stages  of asset life (e.g.  "gas cap blowdown").                                                                    
     Commercial  framework  and physical  infrastructure  is                                                                    
     needed to capture this opportunity                                                                                         
     •Reservoir   management   factors   will   affect   the                                                                    
     relationship between oil and gas production                                                                                
     •Reservoir management for optimum  value will be key as                                                                    
     Prudhoe Bay moves towards higher gas production                                                                            
     •Gas development is  typically less profitable compared                                                                    
     to liquids  which may merit reconsidering  upstream tax                                                                    
     and   royalty   arrangements  to   enable   investment,                                                                    
     benefiting all parties                                                                                                     
     •Assessing these factors is likely  to be a complex and                                                                    
     detailed process  involving a range of  modelling, with                                                                    
     input from oil/gas producers, AOGCC and other bodies                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:53:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   STEDMAN    asked   whether    ExxonMobil   Corporation,                                                               
ConnocoPhillips Alaska,  Inc., and  Hilcorp factor this  gas into                                                               
the cost and oil profit.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FULFORD  said  yes,  it  will  be  part  of  the  commercial                                                               
dialogue,  as its  not only  how it  affects oil  production, but                                                               
also needing  to install new infrastructure,  such as compression                                                               
or pipeline linkages.   So, there will be some  degree of capital                                                               
expenditures ("CapX") as well that would need to be paid for.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:53:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEDMAN  said in the  future, the capital costs  north of                                                               
Station 1 need  to be revisited to better  understand it, because                                                               
it flows  against the oil  tax, which  is already below  floor in                                                               
many places.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FULFORD  resumed  the  presentation  on  slide  16,  "Carbon                                                               
Capture," which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     •Latter phases  of LNG will require  growing processing                                                                    
     capability to remove CO2                                                                                                   
     •HB50 passed  in 2023 provides  a framework  for Carbon                                                                    
     Capture, Use and Sequestration (CCUS)                                                                                      
     •Combination of federal tax  credits (45Q) and customer                                                                    
     demand  for  lower  carbon  LNG  provides  an  economic                                                                    
     driver.                                                                                                                    
     •Credits for  Enhanced Oil Recovery (EOR)  increased in                                                                    
     Federal HR 1.                                                                                                              
     •Gulf Coast  projects have to remove  CO2 from pipeline                                                                    
     gas, however, AK  LNG CO2 content is  much higher. Many                                                                    
     are investing in CCS due to customer demand.                                                                               
     •Potential  additional  benefit  from  reducing  carbon                                                                    
     intensity of North Slope oil production.                                                                                   
     •For  a  2  million  tonne  carbon  capture  plant,  at                                                                    
     $85/tonne of  tax credit, the  benefit to AK  LNG could                                                                    
     be 17c/MMBtu of delivered LNG*.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     *2  million tonnes  of  CO2 at  $85/tonne  = $170m  per                                                                    
     annum, divided  into 1  billion therms  of LNG  = $0.17                                                                    
     per MMNtu                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:56:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FULFORD recommended that members  glance through the projects                                                               
listed  on  slides 17  and  18,  which  give examples  of  fiscal                                                               
incentives  and  stability  among  LNG projects  in  the  US  and                                                               
globally.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:57:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANDREW  DUNCAN, Director  of  Facilities  & Costing  Engineering,                                                               
GaffneyCline, continued  the presentation  with a summary  of key                                                               
aspects that would  affect the project economics of Phase  1.  He                                                               
proceeded  to  slide  20, "FID  Pre-requisites,"  which  read  as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     To take FID,  key aspects of the AKLNG  project must be                                                                    
     considered:                                                                                                                
     •Phase 1  will comprise  the pipeline  transporting gas                                                                    
     to the state domestic market                                                                                               
     •Subsurface (gas availability) risk is low                                                                                 
     •Facilities capital costs are  high and a dominant part                                                                    
     (84%) of the overall cost of supply                                                                                        
     The FID  decision package must provide  coverage of all                                                                    
     project  work  streams   to  demonstrate  readiness  to                                                                    
     proceed.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEDMAN stated  that GaffneyCline  needs to  address how                                                               
much  of  Alaska's  current  market  would  be  absorbed  by  the                                                               
pipeline.   He posed a  scenario in  which Phase 1  was completed                                                               
and not  Phase 2 and  inquired as  to the percentage  of capacity                                                               
that Anchorage would use in the Railbelt.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. FULFORD answered 10 percent.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEDMAN reiterated  that  the model  needs  to be  seen,                                                               
especially if the state is being asked to give up anything.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:00:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. DUNCAN turned to slide 21, "Project Management Framework                                                                    
Pre-FID," which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Large projects  are typically managed within  a "Stage-                                                                    
     Gate" process  where project  phases are  controlled at                                                                    
     "Decision Gates"  (DG). FID is  normally taken  at DG4.                                                                    
     The DG support package will address:                                                                                       
     •Project  technical scope  (project specification,  key                                                                    
     design documents)                                                                                                          
     •Cost    and    schedule-    base,    risk    analysis,                                                                    
     contingencies, and allowances                                                                                              
     •Project   execution   plan-   staffing,   contracting,                                                                    
     procurement, logistics, etc                                                                                                
     •Legal, permits, and regulatory framework                                                                                  
     •Commercial framework, economics, and business case                                                                        
     •Financing-   phasing,   coverage,   risk   management,                                                                    
     assurance, etc.                                                                                                            
     •Stakeholder management                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:04:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. DUNCAN continued to slide 22, "Factors Affecting Pre-FID                                                                    
Schedule," which read as follows [original punctuation                                                                          
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     The time  required for the  "Select" and  "Develop" (or                                                                    
     Define) phases can vary widely, depending on:                                                                              
     •  Project economic  attractiveness- highly  profitable                                                                    
     projects can take FID  quickly, marginal projects often                                                                    
     require better definition and may  have to recycle back                                                                    
     to through concept selection                                                                                               
     •    Project    non-technical   aspects    (regulatory,                                                                    
     stakeholder,  financing)   are  affected   by  external                                                                    
     influences                                                                                                                 
     • Project scale, complexity, and innovation                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Upstream mega-project Pre-FID phase  can vary from less                                                                    
     than 4 years to over 50 years                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:07:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FULFORD proceeded to slide 23, "Legislative Action likely                                                                   
needed Prior to FID," which read as follows [original                                                                           
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     •  Before  FID  is  taken, legislative  action  may  be                                                                    
     required in a number of key areas including:                                                                               
     ?  Reconsideration and  clarification  of LNG  specific                                                                    
     Property Tax  statutes, other  potential duties/levies,                                                                    
     corporate income taxes and accounting treatment                                                                            
     ? Any required  LNG specific permitting  and regulatory                                                                    
     definition                                                                                                                 
     ? Fiscal stability                                                                                                         
     ? Oil and gas production tax and royalty                                                                                   
     ? Equity investment in the LNG project                                                                                     
     • With respect  to the Phase I  pipeline, other pre-FID                                                                    
     features may include:                                                                                                      
      ? Tariff setting for gas  supplies to Southcentral and                                                                    
     the Interior                                                                                                               
     ?  Credit   support  or  other   mechanisms  considered                                                                    
     appropriate                                                                                                                
     ? Detailed  implementations of  the  Alaska  Advantage                                                                     
     principles,  including  tariff allocation  between  in-                                                                    
     State gas requirements and LNG feedstock flow                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FULFORD explained  that one  of the  fundamental differences                                                               
between LNG  Canada and the Alaska  LNG project is that  once the                                                               
pipeline starts  to deliver gas  to Southcentral,  Anchorage, and                                                               
Interior Alaska, there would be  a question of whether it becomes                                                               
a Regulatory  Commission of  Alaska (RCA) rate  case, and  if so,                                                               
what provisions  and resources would  be needed to  determine the                                                               
tariff, as well  as who would pay it.   In contrast, LNG Canada's                                                               
tariffs  are negotiated  with the  pipeline  contractors and  put                                                               
into  contractual terms.   Mr.  Fulford  turned to  slide 24  and                                                               
suggested that  an open-book economic  model may be  a worthwhile                                                               
investigation in the coming months  as the capital costs start to                                                               
become better defined.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:11:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL  asked whether Mr.  Fulford is familiar  with any                                                               
legislation addressing  these issues that would  be introduced in                                                               
the 2026 legislative session.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. FULFORD answered no.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:12:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
FRANK   RICHARDS,    President,   Alaska    Gasline   Development                                                               
Corporation   (AGDC),   directed   attention  to   a   PowerPoint                                                               
presentation, titled  "Alaska LNG Update" [hard  copy included in                                                               
the committee packet].   He began on slide 2,  "AGDC," which read                                                               
as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     The Alaska Gasline Development Corporation (AGDC):                                                                         
     • Independent,  public corporation  owned by  the State                                                                    
     of Alaska (SOA)                                                                                                            
     • Created by the Alaska State Legislature                                                                                  
     Mission                                                                                                                    
     •  Maximize the  benefit of  Alaska's vast  North Slope                                                                    
     natural  gas  resources   through  the  development  of                                                                    
     infrastructure necessary  to move the gas  to local and                                                                    
     international markets                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS  turned to slide 3,  "Project Development Transition                                                               
to  Glenfarne,"  which  read  as  follows  [original  punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     •  AGDC  divested  75%   ownership  of  a  wholly-owned                                                                    
     subsidiary,  8  Star  Alaska,  that  is  advancing  the                                                                    
     Alaska LNG Project (Alaska LNG)                                                                                            
     •  Glenfarne  is  majority owner  and  is  leading  and                                                                    
     funding all Alaska LNG  development in partnership with                                                                    
     AGDC                                                                                                                       
     • 8 Star  Alaska is the corporation that  holds all the                                                                    
     engineering,      environmental     data,      permits,                                                                    
     authorizations and rights-of-way (ROW)                                                                                     
     • By  July 1,  2025, AGDC  had completed  transition of                                                                    
     project functions and assets to Glenfarne management                                                                       
     • AGDC and Glenfarne  meet weekly for informal dialogue                                                                    
     on various work streams                                                                                                    
     • AGDC and  Glenfarne meet formally on  a regular basis                                                                    
     with 8 Star Alaska Board of Managers meetings                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS  noted that 8  Star's Board of Managers  consists of                                                               
two members of Glenfarne, one  member of AGDC, and an independent                                                               
board  member.   He reported  that  Janet Weiss,  a former  board                                                               
member of AGDC and BP  Alaska's former president, was selected as                                                               
the independent board member.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON asked about  the buyout of TransCanada's                                                               
interest in Alaska LNG and whether  that was a good decision.  He                                                               
questioned where  the engineering  and environmental data  is and                                                               
whether this  work is  being segregated  because it's  a separate                                                               
investment.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:18:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RICHARDS  explained  that  the assets  from  the  buyout  of                                                               
TransCanada became part of the  collective information, data, and                                                               
engineering  that AGDC  was granted  full ownership  of when  the                                                               
producers  left  the project.    He  added  that when  the  state                                                               
purchased the rights from TransCanada,  it came to the Alaska LNG                                                               
project.   The state had  a 25  percent equity ownership  in that                                                               
project and  when the producers  elected to  leave at the  end of                                                               
2015,  all  those  rights, responsibilities,  and  datasets  were                                                               
granted to  AGDC, which was  then put into  8 Star Alaska.   This                                                               
repository  consists of  all the  engineering  analysis that  was                                                               
done  previously  on  the Alaska  pipeline  project,  the  Denali                                                               
pipeline  project, and  the entire  work product  done under  the                                                               
Alaska LNG  project, as well  as the optimization work  that AGDC                                                               
did after receiving ownership rights from the producers.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON shared his  understanding that the state                                                               
didn't receive anything from 8  Star for the investment.  Rather,                                                               
an incumbrance  was removed that  allowed the state to  get where                                                               
it's at today.  He asked whether that is accurate.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS clarified that the  state received a commitment from                                                               
Glenfarne  to take  the  project  through to  FID.   This  effort                                                               
includes  all  expenses,  work  product,  contracts,  engineering                                                               
analysis, and request  for quotes, which means that  the state is                                                               
not obligated  to pay  more money  to advance  the project.   Had                                                               
Glenfarne  not  executed  this  agreement,  the  project  may  be                                                               
sitting on  the shelf.  He  resumed the presentation on  slide 4,                                                               
"AGDC's Role as Minority Owner,"  which read as follows [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     AGDC's role as 25% minority owner:                                                                                         
     • Represent State of Alaska's interest in Alaska LNG                                                                       
          • Not obligated to provide future funding to                                                                          
          maintain    ownership   and    receive   developer                                                                    
          economics return                                                                                                      
          • AGDC has the option  on behalf of the state, but                                                                    
          not the obligation, to invest  in up to 25% in the                                                                    
          Alaska  LNG  subprojects   (Gas  Treatment  Plant,                                                                    
          Pipeline,  LNG  Facility) alongside  other  equity                                                                    
          investors                                                                                                             
     • Focus areas:                                                                                                             
          • Governance                                                                                                          
          • Technical and commercial support                                                                                    
          • Optional equity investment opportunities                                                                            
          • Opportunities for Alaskans to invest                                                                                
          • Responsibilities beyond Alaska LNG                                                                                  
          • Ensure adherence to project development                                                                             
          agreements and milestones                                                                                             
          • Developer economics                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RICHARDS  explained  that   AGDC's  focus  is  working  with                                                               
Glenfarne on  pushing the  project forward,  providing expertise,                                                               
and engaging  with Alaskans.   He said  AGDC's role is  to ensure                                                               
that  Glenfarne adheres  to  signed  contracts, diligent  project                                                               
development efforts, and  meets the milestones laid  out in those                                                               
agreements, which includes advocating  for terms described as the                                                               
Alaska Advantage Principles.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:23:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MATT  KISSINGER, Venture  Development  Manager,  AGDC, turned  to                                                               
slide 5,  "Ownership Benefits:  Developer Economics,"  which read                                                               
as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     •  Divesting   75%  has  resulted  in   private  sector                                                                    
     development,  funding,  and  leadership of  Alaska  LNG                                                                    
     where AGDC  holds minority  ownership of  a substantial                                                                    
     asset growing in value                                                                                                     
     • Subproject  development fees are paid  to the Project                                                                    
     Company  (8  Star  Alaska)  and  are  capitalized  into                                                                    
     subproject cost structure                                                                                                  
     •  Development fees  are net  of actual  costs and  are                                                                    
     distributed to owners (AGDC and Glenfarne) pro rata                                                                        
     •  AGDC  shares in  development  value  uplift as  each                                                                    
     subproject phase reaches FID                                                                                               
     •  Precedent:  Freeport  LNG  development  fees  flowed                                                                    
     through  the project  entity, equity  owners shared  in                                                                    
     the development profit proceeds                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. KISSINGER explained  that AGDC's 25 percent  investment is in                                                               
8   Star   Alaska  LLC,   underneath   which   there  are   three                                                               
subsidiaries:  one  for the  gas  treatment  plant, one  for  the                                                               
pipeline,  one for  the LNG  facility.   As funds  are raised  at                                                               
Phase 1  and Phase  2 FID  for those  subprojects, AGDC  would be                                                               
letting  go of  as  little equity  as possible  from  the 8  Star                                                               
Alaska  ownership.    With  the   developer  economics,  what  is                                                               
retained  in  ownership at  the  8  Star  Alaska level  in  those                                                               
subsidiaries would flow through to  AGDC as the 25 percent owner.                                                               
This  is in  addition to  tax benefits,  which are  separate from                                                               
what  Glenfarne would  receive.   He  noted that  the 25  percent                                                               
developer economics are already  locked in, regardless of whether                                                               
AGDC invests in the subprojects.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:24:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON asked  what  would  prohibit AGDC  from                                                               
holding on to the 25 percent.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. KISSINGER clarified  that currently, 8 Star  Alaska holds 100                                                               
percent  of the  three subsidiaries.   As  AGDC raises  funds for                                                               
those  subsidiaries, equity  would have  to be  transferred.   He                                                               
reiterated that AGDC's  25 percent is locked in, but  the goal is                                                               
to hold on  to 8 Star Alaska's equity in  the subsidiaries, which                                                               
would be negotiated as the  project is de-risked while going into                                                               
FID.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:25:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EDGMON  observed   that  the  presentation  seems                                                               
similar   to  the   two  prior   AGDC  presentations   and  feels                                                               
repetitive.  He  said he would like to hear  why there's optimism                                                               
in  the project,  where  it's  at today,  and  why  FID would  be                                                               
reached shortly.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. KISSINGER  confirmed that the  repetitive slides  are serving                                                               
as a  reminder for the  committee.  He  added that the  "meat" of                                                               
the  presentation would  come from  Glenfarne's presentation  and                                                               
agreed to accelerate through the remaining slides.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:26:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RICHARDS summarized  slide  6, "8  Star Alaska  Governance,"                                                               
which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Ensure Glenfarne, as the Alaska LNG developer, pursues                                                                     
     diligent development efforts including:                                                                                    
         • Good faith and timely pursuit of the project                                                                         
     developments                                                                                                               
          • Phase 1 Pipeline development milestones are                                                                         
          being met                                                                                                             
       • Continued investment of sufficient resources to                                                                        
     achieve Final Investment Decision (FID)                                                                                    
          • Phase 1 commercial development is progressing                                                                       
          with a focus on Alaska energy security at the                                                                         
          lowest possible cost to in-state users                                                                                
          • Active engagement with Alaska contractors,                                                                          
          organized   labor,   and    with   key   workforce                                                                    
          development parties                                                                                                   
      • Maintenance of required permits and approvals for                                                                       
     the project                                                                                                                
          •  Permits  and  approvals are  being  maintained,                                                                    
          AGDC  is working  with Glenfarne  to secure  final                                                                    
          small parcels of rights-of-way (ROW)                                                                                  
         • Adherence to the Alaska Advantage Principles                                                                         
          •  Other development  activities, as  necessary to                                                                    
          achieve an affirmative FID                                                                                            
     • Minority rights as one of  four members of the 8 Star                                                                    
     Alaska Board of Managers                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RICHARDS  continued  to  slide   8,  "The  Alaska  Advantage                                                               
Principles,"   which  read   as  follows   [original  punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     •  Establish  and  maintain a  substantial  operational                                                                    
     presence in Alaska                                                                                                         
     •   Accept   interconnection   requests   from   Alaska                                                                    
     customersas   per  design,  a  primary  interconnection                                                                    
     will serve Fairbanks                                                                                                       
     •  In-State customers  get the  priority right  for 500                                                                    
     MMscfd (more than double current demand)                                                                                   
     • Capacity  will be  expanded to  accommodate increased                                                                    
     demand above the original 500 MMscfd allocation                                                                            
     •  The  project  may utilize  differential  rates  only                                                                    
     where they both:                                                                                                           
          1. Help  maximize the flow of  natural gas through                                                                    
     the project, and                                                                                                           
          2.  Achieve the  lowest possible  cost of  gas for                                                                    
          Alaska utility customers                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:28:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RICHARDS  explained that  AGDC  has  reserved the  right  to                                                               
invest up  to 25  percent in individual  subprojects.   He shared                                                               
the  following proposed  timeline:  Phase  1 Pipeline  investment                                                               
decision in 2026;  gas treatment plant in 2027;  and LNG facility                                                               
in 2027.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KISSINGER  directed  attention   to  slide  11,  "Preemptive                                                               
Rights," which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Participation Delay Right Exercised:                                                                                       
          • Glenfarne  extends AGDC's window  to participate                                                                    
          in any issuance or  sale of equity associated with                                                                    
          FID for Alaska LNG subprojects                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     AGDC Back-In Option (5%25%):                                                                                               
          •   After   the   closing  of   such   third-party                                                                    
          investment, AGDC  may elect to back-in  to acquire                                                                    
          between  5%  and  25%  of  the  subproject  equity                                                                    
          issued, on the same economic terms                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Extended Election Period:                                                                                                  
          • AGDC receives a full 180 days after closing to                                                                      
          elect and arrange funding                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
      Alaska LNG moves forward either with or without this                                                                      
     participation by the State                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:31:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADAM  PRESTIDGE,  President,  Glenfarne Alaska;  Co-President,  8                                                               
Star Alaska  LLC, stated that  the Alaska  LNG project is  one of                                                               
the most  important infrastructure projects  in the world.   Once                                                               
completed,  it  will  be  a  major force  in  the  global  energy                                                               
markets,   strengthen  American   energy   dominance,  and   most                                                               
importantly,  deliver reliable,  affordable, and  scalable energy                                                               
to Alaskans  for decades to  come.   He referred to  a PowerPoint                                                               
presentation, titled  "Alaska LNG Update" [hard  copy included in                                                               
the committee  packet].  In less  than 8 months, the  project has                                                               
been accelerated at  an incredible pace, he said,  but this means                                                               
that  many things  are still  in progress  and some  of the  most                                                               
important   project  elements   are  currently   under  sensitive                                                               
commercial negotiations.   He clarified that  Glenfarne's initial                                                               
request  to postpone  this  meeting was  partially  based out  of                                                               
concern that a full update could  not be provided because many of                                                               
the important  elements are under confidential  negotiations with                                                               
third  parties.    Nonetheless,   the  project  continues  to  be                                                               
advanced  and there's  been  a number  of  positive successes  to                                                               
share.   He  reminded  the committee  why  Glenfarne is  uniquely                                                               
qualified  to  partner with  Alaska  on  this  LNG project.    He                                                               
referred to  slide 2, explaining  that Glenfarne is a  U.S. based                                                               
privately  owned  developer,  investor, owner,  and  operator  of                                                               
energy  infrastructure   assets.    The  company   owns  over  60                                                               
operating power and energy facilities  across eight countries and                                                               
employs approximately  900 people.   Glenfarne is  employee owned                                                               
and therefore,  there's no defined  timelines that  would require                                                               
asset  sales to  make a  return  to investors.   Furthermore,  as                                                               
Glenfarne is not  a public company, there's no  concern about how                                                               
quarterly  earnings would  be  interpreted by  the  markets.   He                                                               
emphasized that  Glenfarne intends to  be part of Alaska  LNG for                                                               
the long  haul.  He  explained that Glenfarne has  an established                                                               
track record of success that  sovereign governments rely upon for                                                               
their  most  critical  energy  needs.     Its  customers  include                                                               
national governments, regional power  grids, and local utilities.                                                               
He shared  an example  of their Chile  operation that  involves a                                                               
network of 25 grid stability  power generation units.  Because of                                                               
Glenfarne's employee ownership,  finance expertise, and operating                                                               
track  record,  the  company  is   able  to  take  an  aggressive                                                               
entrepreneurial  approach to  advancing the  project at  a faster                                                               
pace  and  lower   cost  than  traditional  large   oil  and  gas                                                               
companies,  while   maintaining  a  firm  commitment   to  safety                                                               
standards and operational reliability.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:37:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. PRESTIDGE turned to slide  3, "Alaska LNG The World's Premier                                                               
Natural   Gas  Project,"   which   read   as  follows   [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     1. Fully permitted: Federal and State                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     2. Abundant, proven natural gas reserves                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     3. Unparalleled political support                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     4. Independently viable project phases                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
       5. Advanced status of engineering, routed through                                                                        
        established infrastructure areas                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PRESTIDGE  stated that  from  a  technical perspective,  the                                                               
project is  at a ready  state to be taken  into FID.   This means                                                               
that the Alaska  LNG project should have  a successful completion                                                               
by  the  end  of  2028  with  flowing  gas  to  Alaskans  shortly                                                               
thereafter.    In  service  of   the  2028  completion  timeline,                                                               
Glenfarne  is  working  towards  achieving  major  milestone  for                                                               
maintaining the overall  project schedule.  He  reiterated that a                                                               
project of this magnitude and  complexity has numerous variables,                                                               
many  of which  are  under confidential  negotiations.   Further,                                                               
those variables impact  the FID date, so while  it's difficult to                                                               
provide an exact date, Glenfarne  is getting closer and closer to                                                               
the  overall  completion timeline  and  does  not see  any  major                                                               
impediments.    He  added  that  very  soon,  the  contracts  and                                                               
financing would  be executed, as well  other activities necessary                                                               
to maintain that schedule.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:42:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. PRESTIDGE  turned to slide  4, "Hitting the Ground  Running                                                                 
Eight  Months  of  Progress,"  and  listed  these  milestones  as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     ? Established Alaska Presence                                                                                              
     ? Appointed Engineering Firm Worley                                                                                        
     ? Launched Construction Contractor Selection Process                                                                       
     ? Signed Preliminary LNG Agreements                                                                                        
     ? Signed Strategic Partners                                                                                                
     ? Engaged Gas Suppliers                                                                                                    
     ? Leveraged Federal Support                                                                                                
     ? Initiated Marine and Storage Systems Procurement                                                                         
     ? Facilitating Community Conversations                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:44:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL  referred to slides  3 and  4 and noted  that the                                                               
list  of  accomplishments  was achieved  under  the  current  tax                                                               
structure with no  guarantee of fiscal stability.   She asked how                                                               
critical those elements are.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. PRESTIDGE  answered they are  critical.  He  said Glenfarne's                                                               
priority  has been  to  update  the cost  of  the project,  which                                                               
Worley is completing  by the end of  the year.  He  said it would                                                               
be difficult to have a  comprehensive conversation about the need                                                               
for  property  tax adjustment  without  the  complete picture  of                                                               
project costs.   With regard  to fiscal stability, he  said those                                                               
who build and  pay for these projects hate  uncertainty more than                                                               
anything.   So  the  risk  of fiscal  uncertainty  would need  to                                                               
reside somewhere in  the chain, resulting in a  cost increase for                                                               
the  infrastructure.   He acknowledged  that property  tax is  an                                                               
important part of the conversation.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:46:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EDGMON shared  his  understanding that  FID is  a                                                               
term of art  and, without the full picture of  the revenue stream                                                               
throughout the life  cycle of the project, FID  cannot be arrived                                                               
at.   He asked  Mr. Prestidge  to refute  that and  asked whether                                                               
Phase 1 and Phase 2 are separate FIDs.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. PRESTIDGE explained that in  order to complete the project by                                                               
the  end   of  2028,  Glenfarne   intends  to   make  significant                                                               
expenditures  of capital  to have  the  pipeline delivered,  real                                                               
machinery  along  the pipeline  route,  preparing  the route  for                                                               
greater construction,  and a number  of other activities.   Where                                                               
the event  of FID  occurs is  something to  be determined  as the                                                               
confidential negotiation processes are resolved.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EDGMON asked  how  long-term  investors would  be                                                               
secured if  things like tax regime  and stability have yet  to be                                                               
determined.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PRESTIDGE  acknowledged  that   when  making  an  investment                                                               
earlier  in   the  project,  there's   a  greater  risk   to  the                                                               
investment.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:49:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   EDGMON   sought    further   clarification   and                                                               
questioned why Glenfarne is so optimistic about reaching FID.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. PRESTIDGE  clarified that by  the time full financing  is put                                                               
together,  all the  risks  and questions  need  to be  addressed;                                                               
however, for some of the  preliminary works, the expenditures and                                                               
investments  can  be  made  while   other  elements  are  pending                                                               
resolution.  Frankly, these investments  are riskier, as elements                                                               
of the package  are still being finalized,  but Glenfarne's level                                                               
of optimism would justify making those expenditures, he said.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EDGMON asked whether this  is a two or three phase                                                               
project.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. PRESTIDGE  said in  terms of  FID events,  he considers  it a                                                               
two-phase project; however, there are three subprojects.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EDGMON sought to  confirm that Glenfarne is making                                                               
progress  on  Phase  1  in  a  way  that  supports  a  successful                                                               
completion date by the end of 2028.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. PRESTIDGE answered absolutely.   He answered that part of the                                                               
optimism comes from  the parallel progress on  advancing Phase 2,                                                               
the LNG export  facility.  He reported that  negotiations for LNG                                                               
sales to global customers have  been accelerated by global market                                                               
interest  in  this  project.     Consequently,  even  though  the                                                               
pipeline is  going first,  the export  facility is  the long-term                                                               
anchor of the project that drives the pipeline.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EDGMON  asked  whether  there  would  be  further                                                               
engagement with the legislature beyond today's meeting.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. PRESTIDGE  answered yes, today  represents the  first meeting                                                               
with the  legislature, which  would be an  important part  of the                                                               
work moving  forward.   He noted  that AGDC  is working  with the                                                               
governor on  a taskforce with  various borough mayors  to address                                                               
property tax solutions that may be needed for the project.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EDGMON   concluded  that  the   2026  legislative                                                               
session could be  dominated by policy dedicated  to advancing the                                                               
LNG pipeline.  He asked whether that is accurate.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. PRESTIDGE  opined that it would  be an important part  of the                                                               
agenda.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:54:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL presumed that Phase  1 includes the gas treatment                                                               
facility.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. PRESTIDGE  answered no, not technically.   The specifications                                                               
necessary for  gas exported as  LNG is  a higher standard  of gas                                                               
purity  that is  necessary  for (indisc.)  grade consumption  for                                                               
domestic users.  At that  high volume, a large treatment facility                                                               
is needed  to bring the  North Slope down to  LNG specifications;                                                               
however,   the    specifications   satisfactory    for   domestic                                                               
consumption in Alaska  are not at the same level,  so a large gas                                                               
treatment facility is  not needed on the North Slope.   The scale                                                               
of  the  preliminary  treatment  plant  for  domestic  demand  is                                                               
equivalent to the  scale of the gas being transported  in Phase 1                                                               
which is less than 10 percent of the total (indisc.).                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL questioned what the  cost would be to Alaskans to                                                               
buy their own gas.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:56:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON  recalled  that  there  was  discussion                                                               
about pipe being acquired and asked  who would be paying for that                                                               
pipe.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. PRESTIDGE answered  that the early works,  including the pipe                                                               
purchases, would be funded by Glenfarne.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON  asked whether  that would be  above and                                                               
beyond the $150 million commitment.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. PRESTIDGE answered yes.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON shared his  understanding that the state                                                               
must be  a party  to the negotiation  with local  governments for                                                               
some reduction of the property and equipment tax.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. PRESTIDGE  shared his belief that  yes, that is correct.   He                                                               
noted that one of the key features  of the project is that it's a                                                               
joint venture between Glenfarne and the State of Alaska.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON asked whether  the rights to the project                                                               
would be  sold or  given if  the state decides  to invest  in the                                                               
equity share.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PRESTIDGE  reiterated that  the  state  would be  given  the                                                               
opportunity to invest in each of the subprojects.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON  surmised  that  the  first  investment                                                               
opportunity, or "benchmark," could be the most important one.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PRESTIDGE personally  agreed with  Representative Josephson,                                                               
as  it would  seem that  participating in  the first  phase of  a                                                               
pipeline  project  that  delivers  gas to  Alaskans  would  be  a                                                               
priority.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:00:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KOPP  asked  whether Glenfarne's  willingness  to                                                               
"lay out  all of  its cards," as  well as taking  the lead  and a                                                               
significant risk, is  an indication of their  level of confidence                                                               
in the project.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. PRESTIDGE agreed, and  recalled initial conversations between                                                               
himself,  Glenfarne's  CEO,  and   the  legislature  about  their                                                               
willingness  to "quarterback"  a consortium  of capable  partners                                                               
who would deliver the project.   In reference to slide 6, "Adding                                                               
World  Class  Partners  &   Accelerating  Market  Interests,"  he                                                               
encouraged  the committee  to look  toward  the project's  public                                                               
partnerships,  such  as  Worley;  POSCO,  a  major  Korean  steel                                                               
manufacturer;  and  Baker  Hughes,  a  global  leader  in  energy                                                               
technology who  prides themselves  in only investing  in projects                                                               
that  they truly  believe will  advance.   He explained  that the                                                               
project  has   also  benefitted   from  accelerated   success  in                                                               
marketing LNG.  He explained that  the LNG export facility has 20                                                               
million tons  of export  capacity.  In  order to  achieve project                                                               
financing, the target is to have  80 percent, or 16 million tons,                                                               
of the  export capacity under  a long-term  third-party contract.                                                               
Currently,  Glenfarne  reported  11   million  tons  of  customer                                                               
commitments, which  is more than  halfway to target.   Continuing                                                               
to slide  7, "Accelerating Market  Interests," he  explained that                                                               
LNG  purchase commitments  are  a long  process  that start  with                                                               
initial indications  of interest.   He listed the  companies that                                                               
have  signed  letters  of  intent (LOIs)  as  follows:  CPC,  the                                                               
national oil  and gas  company of Taiwan;  PTT, the  national oil                                                               
and gas  company of Thailand; Jera,  the largest buyer of  LNG in                                                               
the world out  of Japan; POSCO; and Tokyo Gas.   He described the                                                               
group  as   a  diverse  panel   of  the  most   conservative  and                                                               
sophisticated  buyers of  LNG in  the world.   He  explained that                                                               
these  partnerships  are  not  just   a  result  of  good  public                                                               
relations, it is the result  of a careful, methodical, process of                                                               
educating customers  on the  advantages of  this project.   These                                                               
companies  have deployed  teams  of  technicians, engineers,  and                                                               
financial analysts to get to this point.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:06:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PRESTIDGE  continued  to  slide   8,  "Alaska  Engagement                                                                  
Outreach,"   which   read   as  follows   [original   punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     In-State Outreach:                                                                                                         
     • Contractor summit: ~200 statewide professionals                                                                          
     • Engagements with 100+ Alaska firms, including ANCs,                                                                      
     village and tribal corporations                                                                                            
     • Online portal                                                                                                            
     • Directory of local businesses                                                                                            
     • Open houses                                                                                                              
     • Anchorage office opened                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Collaborative Workforce Development                                                                                        
     • Contractors                                                                                                              
     • Unions                                                                                                                   
     • State DOLWD & Alaska Workforce Investment                                                                                
     Board                                                                                                                      
     • University                                                                                                               
     • Local training centers                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. PRESTIDGE  described the contractor selection  process, which                                                               
is  currently  in progress,  on  slide  9, "Alaska  Engagement                                                                  
Opportunities,"  which  read  as  follows  [original  punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Contracting In Progress                                                                                                    
     • Steel                                                                                                                    
     • Line pipe                                                                                                                
     • Four pipeline spreads                                                                                                    
     • Work camps                                                                                                               
     • Gravel                                                                                                                   
     • Logistics                                                                                                                
     • Fuel                                                                                                                     
     • Block valves                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Employment Opportunities                                                                                                   
     • 3,500 Logistics professionals                                                                                            
     • 2,300 Laborers                                                                                                           
     • 1,900 Engineers                                                                                                          
     • 1,600 Pipefitters and welders                                                                                            
     • 450 Ironworkers                                                                                                          
     • 400 Electricians                                                                                                         
     • 300 Carpenters                                                                                                           
     • 1,450 Others                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. PRESTIDGE  emphasized that Glenfarne  is committed  to moving                                                               
the  project  forward  to  completion and  is  well  equipped  to                                                               
address  any challenges  that  arise.   He  said Glenfarne  looks                                                               
forward to  continued dialogue, engagement, and  cooperation with                                                               
the legislature, and expressed appreciation for the support.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:11:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   GIESSEL  stated   her   appreciation  for   Glenfarne's                                                               
enthusiasm  for   the  project;   however,  she  said   the  same                                                               
enthusiasm has been expressed in  the past over Alaska's fishing,                                                               
mining, and  oil industries.   She commented on  the Trans-Alaska                                                               
Pipeline System  (TAPS) project,  which required a  large out-of-                                                               
state  workforce,  noting  that  currently, 24  percent  of  TAPS                                                               
employees reside out-of-state.   She said she would  need to take                                                               
all of this into account as she considers the project.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. PRESTIDGE  acknowledged Glenfarne's enthusiasm;  however, the                                                               
enthusiasm   is  underpinned   by   its   expertise  in   project                                                               
development  and financing.   He  reiterated  that Glenfarne  has                                                               
built, financed,  and operated  60 assets  across America  and is                                                               
building and developing  LNG projects along the  U.S. Gulf Coast.                                                               
The  enthusiasm  comes from  a  core  belief in  the  commercial,                                                               
financial, and  technical development of  the project.   He added                                                               
that understanding  the state  perspective on  Alaska's workforce                                                               
development is important to Glenfarne,  as they shape the project                                                               
moving forward.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:14:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MEARS asked  whether  Glenfarne  had anything  to                                                               
share on LNG import and the status and timeline of that project.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. PRESTIDGE  responded that part  of Glenfarne's work  over the                                                               
past 8 months has been  dedicated to reviewing and conducting the                                                               
engineering on the  marine terminal and LNG storage  tank on site                                                               
of  the  LNG facility.    He  said  Glenfarne continues  to  push                                                               
forward on  the optionality  and capability of  LNG exports  as a                                                               
part of the overall Alaska LNG  project and views it as potential                                                               
short-term solution  to any energy  shortage, as well as  a long-                                                               
term backup option  for energy security if needed  in the future.                                                               
He  added  that  the  timeline on  that  project  is  complicated                                                               
because  it's  not dissimilar  to  the  overall timeline  of  the                                                               
pipeline, which  has projected the  completion of the  LNG import                                                               
terminal around the end of (indisc.).                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:16:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There  being  no  further  business  before  the  committee,  the                                                               
Legislative Budget  and Audit Committee meeting  was adjourned at                                                               
4:16 p.m.