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01:01:52 PM Start
01:02:25 PM Presentation(s): Nicolai Creek Unit Royalty Modification
02:09:46 PM Adjourn
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+ Presentation: Nicolai Creek Unit Royalty TELECONFERENCED
Modification by John Crowther, Deputy
Commissioner, Department of Natural Resources;
and Derek Nottingham, Director, and Weston Nash,
Commercial Analyst, Division of Oil and Gas
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
             LEGISLATIVE BUDGET AND AUDIT COMMITTEE                                                                           
                        August 21, 2025                                                                                         
                           1:01 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elvi Gray-Jackson, Chair                                                                                                
Representative Zack Fields, Vice Chair                                                                                          
Senator Cathy Giessel                                                                                                           
Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                       
Representative Neal Foster                                                                                                      
Representative Andy Josephson                                                                                                   
Representative Cathy Tilton                                                                                                     
Senator Scott Kawasaki (alternate)                                                                                              
Representative Bryce Edgmon (alternate)                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bert Stedman                                                                                                            
Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                           
Representative Chuck Kopp                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION(S):  NICOLAI CREEK UNIT ROYALTY MODIFICATION                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
JOHN CROWTHER, Commissioner                                                                                                     
Department of Natural Resources                                                                                                 
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Co-presented the Nicolai Creek Unit Royalty                                                              
Modification presentation.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
WESTON NASH, Commercial Analyst                                                                                                 
Division of Oil and Gas                                                                                                         
Department of Natural Resources                                                                                                 
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Co-presented the Nicolai Creek Unit Royalty                                                              
Modification presentation.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:01:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ELVI  GRAY-JACKSON called the Legislative  Budget and Audit                                                             
Committee meeting to order at  1:01 p.m.  Representatives Foster,                                                               
Josephson, Edgmon, and Fields  and Senators Giessel, Wielechowski                                                               
(via teleconference),  and Gray-Jackson were present  at the call                                                               
to  order.    Representatives  Tilton  (via  teleconference)  and                                                               
Kawasaki  (via  teleconference) arrived  as  the  meeting was  in                                                               
progress.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
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^PRESENTATION(S):  Nicolai Creek Unit Royalty Modification                                                                      
   PRESENTATION(S):  Nicolai Creek Unit Royalty Modification                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:02:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GRAY-JACKSON announced  that  the only  order of  business                                                               
would   be   the   Nicolai  Creek   Unit   Royalty   Modification                                                               
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:03:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   GRAY-JACKSON  gave   the   following  opening   remarks                                                               
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     This is  an informational  hearing    no votes  will be                                                                    
     taken  today.  We all  know  how  important Cook  Inlet                                                                    
     natural  gas is  to  the people  of Alaska,  especially                                                                    
     Southcentral  and  the  Railbelt, and  to  the  overall                                                                    
     economy  of our  state.  That's why  our  job today  is                                                                    
     oversight      making  sure  Alaskans   understand  the                                                                    
     tradeoffs when the State reduces  its share of resource                                                                    
     revenues. A royalty modification  means the State takes                                                                    
     a smaller share of oil  and gas revenues up front, with                                                                    
     the  hope that  it will  encourage more  investment and                                                                    
     production.  We need  to ask  whether this  proposal is                                                                    
     truly  in  the  best interest  of  Alaskans,  balancing                                                                    
     energy security  with protecting the  State's long-term                                                                    
     finances.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
       Thank you to the Department and my colleagues for                                                                        
       joining us on short notice  we look forward to an                                                                        
     informative discussion.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:04:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN  CROWTHER,  Commissioner,  Department of  Natural  Resources                                                               
(DNR), said DNR  has been actively trying to  understand the Cook                                                               
Inlet natural  gas supply and  use its authority to  maximize gas                                                               
production  and  availability  for Alaskans  while  paying  close                                                               
attention to  royalty revenue obligations  to make  best interest                                                               
findings.   He said the  purpose of  today's hearing is  to share                                                               
information on the department's proposal.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:06:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WESTON  NASH,  Commercial  Analyst,  Division  of  Oil  and  Gas,                                                               
Department  of   Natural  Resources  (DNR),  gave   a  PowerPoint                                                               
presentation,  titled  "Preliminary  Findings  and  Determination                                                               
Nicolai  Creek  Unit  Royalty   Modification"  [included  in  the                                                               
committee  packet].   She  began  the  presentation on  slide  2,                                                               
"Outline,"   which   read   as  follows   [original   punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     1. Executive Summary                                                                                                       
      2. Royalty Modification       Relevant Statutes and                                                                       
     History                                                                                                                    
     3. Nicolai Creek Unit Background                                                                                           
     4. Statutory Criteria                                                                                                      
     5. Best Interest of the State                                                                                              
     6. Scenario Modeling  Key Results                                                                                          
        7. Quantified Impacts and Unquantified Indirect                                                                         
     Benefits of                                                                                                                
     Royalty Modification                                                                                                       
     8. Royalty Modification Mechanism                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:07:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. NASH  continued to slide  3, "Executive Summary,"  which read                                                               
as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
       • Amaroq Resources, LLC (Amaroq), operator of the                                                                        
     Nicolai Creek Unit (NCU), submitted a                                                                                      
       royalty modification application to Department of                                                                        
     Natural Resources (DNR) on September 3,                                                                                    
     2024                                                                                                                       
     •  The application  to reduce  royalty  is intended  to                                                                    
     prolong the  economic life  of the  unit as  per barrel                                                                    
     equivalent  costs  are   increasing  due  to  declining                                                                    
     production                                                                                                                 
       DNR  engaged in an  extensive review and  analysis of                                                                    
     both public  and confidential financial  and production                                                                    
     information provided by the applicant                                                                                      
     •  DNR  concluded  that, absent  additional  production                                                                    
     from new drilling, the unit  would likely reach the end                                                                    
     of the economic field life in September 2026                                                                               
     •  DNR  recommends  a  royalty  modification  mechanism                                                                    
     based  on   cumulative  gross  revenues   beginning  on                                                                    
     September 1, 2024                                                                                                          
     • DNR analyses showed  that royalty modification would,                                                                    
     in the mean case, extend the  life of the field by four                                                                    
     years with an expected  $0.9 million increase in direct                                                                    
     revenue to the State                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:10:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. NASH advanced to slide 4, "Royalty Modification  Relevant                                                                   
Statutes," which read as follows [original punctuation                                                                          
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     • The Commissioner:                                                                                                        
     • Alaska  Statute (AS) 38.05.180(j)(1)(B):  may provide                                                                    
     modification of  royalty "to prolong the  economic life                                                                    
     of an oil or gas field  or pool as per barrel or barrel                                                                    
     equivalent costs  increase or  as the  price of  oil or                                                                    
     gas  decreases,   and  the  increase  or   decrease  is                                                                    
     sufficient   to  make   future  production   no  longer                                                                    
     economically feasible."                                                                                                    
     •  AS  38.05.180(j)(4)(B)  "may  not  grant  a  royalty                                                                    
     reduction ?  under (1)(B) of this  subsection...of less                                                                    
     than three percent ..."                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     • The lessee needs to:                                                                                                     
     •  AS 38.05.180(j)(2):  "make  a  clear and  convincing                                                                    
     showing  that  a  modification of  royalty"  meets  the                                                                    
     statutory requirements and "is  in the best interest of                                                                    
     the state."                                                                                                                
     •   AS   38.05.180(j)(3):  The   royalty   modification                                                                    
     mechanism "?  shall be based  on a change in  the price                                                                    
     of oil or  gas and may also be based  on other relevant                                                                    
     factors such as a change in production rate?"                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:12:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICE  CHAIR  FIELDS  shared his  understanding  that  Hilcorp,  a                                                               
monopoly  producer, is  refusing  to explore  beyond its  minimum                                                               
contract  obligations with  utilities,  which is  pushing up  the                                                               
price of  gas.  He  asked whether  that increase would  justify a                                                               
royalty  modification  for future  producers  in  the Cook  Inlet                                                               
basin.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER said an increase in  the price of gas alone wouldn't                                                               
suddenly  make  operators  eligible that  otherwise  wouldn't  be                                                               
eligible.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
VICE  CHAIR  FIELDS   sought  to  confirm  that   its  no  longer                                                               
economically feasible  to price  the production at  a competitive                                                               
market price at a certain point in time.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CROWTHER said  yes, for  a modification  to be  granted, per                                                               
barrel costs  must be increasing  and one would need  to consider                                                               
whether the  modification would extend  the end of field  life in                                                               
the  best  interest of  the  state.    It's quite  feasible  that                                                               
increased prices and  end of field lives extending  would make it                                                               
harder  to receive  the royalty  modification in  the context  of                                                               
best interest.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:14:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NASH   resumed  the  presentation   on  slide   5,  "Royalty                                                               
Modification   History," which showed  a complete list of royalty                                                               
modifications  and their  outcomes.   He  continued  to slide  6,                                                               
"Royalty Modification   Results,"  explaining that the two active                                                               
modifications are  the Badami  Unit and  the Kitchen  Lights Unit                                                               
(KLU).  The  Badami Unit was granted in 2023  to extend the field                                                               
life and has  produced 1.3 million barrels since  2023 with plans                                                               
for  new drilling  in 2025.    The KLU  royalty modification  was                                                               
granted in 2024  for the purpose of extending the  field life and                                                               
has resulted  in three new  wells and produced 1.1  billion cubic                                                               
feet (Bcf) of Cook Inlet Gas on top of expectations.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:19:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON referenced  the  "Oooguruk (Nuna  Torok                                                               
Pool)"  and sought  to confirm  that ConocoPhillips  Alaska, Inc.                                                               
acquired  leases in  2019 and  began drilling  new wells  in 2023                                                               
with a fully royalty.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. NASH responded correct, there was no royalty modification.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:20:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. NASH resumed  the presentation on slide 7,  "NCU Background                                                                 
Unit  Location,"  which  read as  follows  [original  punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     • Unit formed in 1968 by Texaco                                                                                            
     • 470 acres                                                                                                                
     • Originally produced until 1977                                                                                           
     • Production restarted by Aurora Gas in 2001                                                                               
        • Amaroq acquired NCU in 2018 due to Aurora Gas'                                                                        
     bankruptcy                                                                                                                 
      • Annual production 0.2 percent of total Cook Inlet                                                                       
     production                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NASH  continued   to  slide  8,  "NCU   Background     Lease                                                               
Information," which showed the layout  of the unit and a detailed                                                               
table with information on the 5 leases that it's comprised of.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:25:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL asked for an  explanation of the columns on slide                                                               
8.                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. NASH explained the Overriding  Royalty Interest (ORRI), total                                                               
burden, production  allocation, shallow  burden, and  deep burden                                                               
categories   to  illustrate   the  complication   of  the   lease                                                               
structure.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:27:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. NASH continued  the presentation on slide  9, "NCU Background                                                               
    Production  History,"   which  read   as  follows   [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     • Amaroq produced about 60 million cubic feet (MMscf)                                                                      
     through June 30, 2025                                                                                                      
     • Production comes from three wells:                                                                                       
     • NCU 02                                                                                                                   
     • NCU 09                                                                                                                   
     • NCU 11                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:29:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. NASH turned to slide  10, "Statutory Criteria," which read as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     • Amaroq  demonstrated the  per-barrel-equivalent costs                                                                    
     increase will make future  production uneconomic per AS                                                                    
     38.05.180(j)(2)                                                                                                            
     •  The  increase   in  per-barrel-equivalent  costs  is                                                                    
     mainly due to declining production from current wells                                                                      
     • Continued  operation of the  NCU would  be uneconomic                                                                    
     due to per-barrel-equivalent costs                                                                                         
     • Amaroq  demonstrated that royalty  modification would                                                                    
     prolong   the  economic   life  of   the  NCU   per  AS                                                                    
     38.05.180(j)(1)(B)                                                                                                         
     • Absent relief,  the NCU would begin  shutting down in                                                                    
     September  2026 as  operating  the  field would  become                                                                    
     uneconomic                                                                                                                 
     •  With   relief,  modeling  showed   operations  could                                                                    
     continue for an additional year                                                                                            
     • Amaroq  proposed a royalty modification  mechanism at                                                                    
     a fixed rate until profitable                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:31:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. NASH moved to slide 11, "Statutory Criteria [continued],"                                                                   
which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     •  Amaroq demonstrated  that under  current royalty  it                                                                    
     was  uneconomic  to  drill   additional  wells  per  AS                                                                    
     38.05.180(j)(1)(C)                                                                                                         
     •  Amaroq  provided a  reserves  report  analyzed by  a                                                                    
     third  party   identifying  proven  and   probable  gas                                                                    
     reserves in the NCU                                                                                                        
     •  Amaroq  provided   sufficient  information  for  the                                                                    
     development costs  and financing to show  that drilling                                                                    
     would be uneconomic without relief                                                                                         
     •  With relief,  Amaroq's  economics  are improved  and                                                                    
     will help secure funding for the drilling program                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:33:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR FIELDS asked why a 9 percent reduction is necessary.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. NASH responded 9 percent provides the best economic outcome                                                                 
for drilling the wells.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER  added that  toggling the  royalty rate  extends the                                                               
rate incrementally.  He stated  that getting the most activity in                                                               
the unit is  the most important thing for the  state, which would                                                               
likely occur at [9] percent.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICE  CHAIR  FIELDS  asked whether  data  supports  the  positive                                                               
binary  decision  at 9  percent,  versus  5  or  7 percent.    In                                                               
addition, he asked whether the statutory minimum is 3 percent.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CROWTHER said  when  evaluating  royalty modifications,  the                                                               
focus is on  expected recovery rate, revenue,  and maximizing the                                                               
dollar.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:36:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NASH  resumed  the  presentation   on  slides  12-13,  "Best                                                               
Interest  of   the  State,"  which  read   as  follows  [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Modification is in the best interest of the State per                                                                      
     AS 38.05.180(j)(2)                                                                                                         
     • DNR modification extends field life and provides:                                                                        
          • Continued Cook Inlet gas production                                                                                 
          • Diversity in Cook Inlet explorers and producers                                                                     
          • Additional indirect benefits (details on slide                                                                      
     18)                                                                                                                        
     • DNR's royalty modification expected to extend field                                                                      
     life by one year                                                                                                           
          • Modification mechanism accounts for price and                                                                       
          production                                                                                                            
          • Multiple development, price, and shutdown                                                                           
          scenarios were modeled                                                                                                
          • Preserves potential of additional drilling                                                                          
       • Amaroq is seeking funding to drill two or three                                                                        
     additional wells                                                                                                           
          • Further extend field life                                                                                           
         • Produce additional gas (details on slide 18)                                                                         
     • Wells will reestablish production from gas zones not                                                                     
     produced in five                                                                                                           
     to 10 years                                                                                                                
          • Two wells could be drilled from existing pads                                                                       
          • An additional third well could be drilled from                                                                      
          a new pad                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:39:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. NASH turned  to slide 13, which showed  scenario modeling for                                                               
end  of  field  life  with the  royalty  modification  versus  no                                                               
royalty modification.   Scenario  1a, "Royalty Modification    No                                                               
Development Drilling,"  would extend the  end of field  life from                                                               
September 2026 to  September 2027; however, total  revenue to the                                                               
state would  decrease significantly  and both production  tax and                                                               
property tax would  rise.  He reiterated that the  goal is to get                                                               
an additional  80 million standard  cubic feet (MMscf) of  gas in                                                               
the  Cook  Inlet  system  and   extended  time  to  get  drilling                                                               
sanctioned and funded.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:41:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EDGMON sought  to confirm that the  benefit of the                                                               
royalty modification is to produce  more gas, more revenue to the                                                               
state, and most importantly, more development opportunities.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NASH clarified  that total  revenue would  decline, but  the                                                               
tradeoff for a deduction in revenue is more gas and opportunity.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:42:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NASH  continued  the presentation  on  slides  15-16,  which                                                               
showed  more  scenario  modeling   for  development  drilling  at                                                               
different  production  levels  with two  different  price  paths:                                                               
Amaroq and  DNR Utility.   For Amaroq,  the total revenue  to the                                                               
state ranges from a low of  $650,800 to a high of $1,696,500 with                                                               
2,773.1 MMscf of additional gas in the high case scenario.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:45:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR FIELDS asked how  2,773.1 MMscf compares to daily Cook                                                               
Inlet field production and consumption.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. NASH said it remains at .2 percent of production.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER  noted that  although the  cumulative volume  of the                                                               
additional  gas projected  between 1.2  Bcf  and 2.7  Bcf is  not                                                               
large, even a single Bcf going  into storage helps at this stage.                                                               
He estimated  that the annual usage  in the Cook Inlet  is around                                                               
70-72 [Bcf].                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:46:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. NASH  continued the  presentation on  slide 16,  which showed                                                               
the  scenario  modeling for  the  DNR  Utility  Price Path.    He                                                               
pointed out  that both price  paths are extremely similar  with a                                                               
difference of only  $0.25 to $0.30.  Scenario 3c  is the expected                                                               
case, which makes  up high and medium production  and an expected                                                               
end of field  life of August 2030 with an  additional 1,902 MMscf                                                               
over a  four-year period.   This scenario would yield  just under                                                               
$900,000  in revenue  to  the  state.   He  turned  to slide  17,                                                               
"Quantified  Impacts  of  Royalty Modification,"  which  read  as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
        • The initial extension of field life yields the                                                                        
     following:                                                                                                                 
          • One year of additional field life                                                                                   
         • ($154,000) in total state revenue (NPV 12.5)                                                                         
          • 79.7 MMscf (0.08 Bcf) in additional gas                                                                             
     • Development drilling, Scenario 3c, yields:                                                                               
          • Four years of additional field life, beyond                                                                         
          September 2026                                                                                                        
          • $894,000 total state revenue (NPV 12.5)                                                                             
               • $523,000 Royalty                                                                                               
               • $267,000 Production tax                                                                                        
               • $104,000 Property tax                                                                                          
          • 1,902 MMscf (1.9 Bcf) in additional gas                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. NASH moved  to slide 18, "Unquantified  Benefits," which read                                                               
as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     • Continued local gas production                                                                                           
          • Cook Inlet utilities face natural gas                                                                               
          deliverability and supply issues in coming                                                                            
          years                                                                                                                 
          • Continued production at NCU is potentially a                                                                        
          lower-cost alternative to liquified                                                                                   
          natural gas imports or other energy sources                                                                           
          • Maintains demand for energy services and                                                                            
          associated jobs in the region                                                                                         
     • Diversity in producers in the Cook Inlet basin                                                                           
     • Environmental, social, and cultural impacts                                                                              
          • Leases contain stipulations to protect the                                                                          
          environment                                                                                                           
          • Amaroq employs three staff with additional                                                                          
          contractors                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:52:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EDGMON asked whether  these exercises would become                                                               
more frequent  as fields age.   Further, in terms  of qualitative                                                               
and quantitative  considerations, he questioned whether  there is                                                               
a precedent  setting aspect that  might apply to  future decision                                                               
making.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER  said ultimately, the  decision to apply  rests with                                                               
the   operator  in   consideration   of   its  economics,   DNR's                                                               
evaluation, and  field economics  all within  the context  of the                                                               
overall market.   He said the decisions are  "informative but not                                                               
controlling  in the  precedential sense."   The  decisions, while                                                               
made by  the commissioner, are  based on statutory  criteria that                                                               
balances the best interest of the  state.  He said this is viewed                                                               
as   something  that   would   inform   the  department   without                                                               
constraining  it and  referenced  the success  of  the prior  KLU                                                               
royalty modification.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:56:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NASH  advanced  to  slide   19,  "DNR  Royalty  Modification                                                               
Mechanism,"   which  read   as   follows  [original   punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     •  Three percent  royalty rate  per  month until  gross                                                                    
     revenue  generated  from  NCU  beginning  September  1,                                                                    
     2024,  reaches a  cumulative  amount  of $25.3  million                                                                    
     (Gross Revenue Target)                                                                                                     
          • Accounts for both production and price                                                                              
     •  After  the  Gross  Revenue Target  is  reached,  the                                                                    
     royalty  rate  returns  to  12.5  percent  and  royalty                                                                    
     modification will expire                                                                                                   
          • Depending on price and production levels, DNR                                                                       
          estimates royalty modification should lapse in                                                                        
          the early 2030s                                                                                                       
     •  Gross  Revenue  Target   was  generated  from  total                                                                    
     monthly  cost  and   expense  estimates  for  continued                                                                    
     development drilling at NCU                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.   NASH  moved   to  slide   20,  "DNR   Royalty  Modification                                                               
Mechanism,"   which  read   as   follows  [original   punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     • Minimum royalty rate is three percent                                                                                    
     • Subject to routine DNR royalty audit                                                                                     
     •  DNR has  the right  to obtain  expense invoices  and                                                                    
     financial/accounting  records  from  Amaroq  every  six                                                                    
     months                                                                                                                     
     • DNR shall  have the right, upon notice  to Amaroq, to                                                                    
     terminate  the  royalty  modification in  whole  or  in                                                                    
     part:                                                                                                                      
          • If criteria of AS 38.05.180(j)(1)(B) or                                                                             
          38.05.180(j)(2) are no longer met                                                                                     
          • If DNR finds NCU operator to be in default per                                                                      
         11 AAC 83.374 (failure to comply with terms of                                                                         
          an approved plan of development), and the default                                                                     
          is not cured, royalty modification will terminate                                                                     
     •  Royalty  modification  can  only  be  assigned  upon                                                                    
     written approval of the Commissioner                                                                                       
     •   Royalty  modification   applied  retroactively   to                                                                    
     September 1, 2024                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:01:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON questioned  whether this  informational                                                               
hearing is a statutory requirement.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER  stated that AS 38.05.180(j)(9)  describes the offer                                                               
to appear  before the Legislative  Budget and Audit  Committee to                                                               
inform  the public  and receive  public comment.   He  added that                                                               
public comment  would be  reviewed and  may be  incorporated into                                                               
the final  decision.  Certainly,  he said it's  the legislature's                                                               
prerogative to take additional action,  but there is no statutory                                                               
requirements other than holding this hearing.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:02:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. NASH concluded on slide  21, "Summary," which read as follows                                                               
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     • Royalty modification  is in the best  interest of the                                                                    
     State per AS 38.05.180(j)(2)                                                                                               
     •  Three percent  royalty rate  per  month until  gross                                                                    
     revenue  generated  from  NCU  beginning  September  1,                                                                    
     2024, reaches a cumulative amount of $25.3 million                                                                         
     • At least ~ one year  of field life extension and 0.08                                                                    
     Bcf of incremental gas                                                                                                     
     •  With  additional   drilling,  estimated  incremental                                                                    
     direct revenue to the State  of $0.9 million (NPV 12.5)                                                                    
     and ~2 Bcf of additional gas                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:04:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL emphasized  that the gas situation  in Cook Inlet                                                               
matters to Alaskans.  In a  sense, she said, rather than creating                                                               
its  own  oil and  gas  company,  the  state is  partnering  with                                                               
existing  companies that  are taking  on the  risk of  developing                                                               
these resources.  She thanked  DNR for considering the importance                                                               
of producing more gas despite the  cost.  She said the message to                                                               
Alaskans is  that this  royalty relief  is the  state subsidizing                                                               
and encouraging this critical piece.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:06:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GRAY-JACKSON  thanked  the  testifiers  and  reminded  the                                                               
public that  DNR's findings  are published  on the  online public                                                               
notice  system  and  the  Division  of  Oil  and  Gas's  website.                                                               
Preliminary  findings are  open  to public  comment until  Friday                                                               
September 5, 2025.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:07:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EDGMON asked for an update on SB 183.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GRAY-JACKSON  shared her understanding that  the Department                                                               
of Revenue  (DOR) would be  directed to cooperate with  the state                                                               
auditor  and provide  the necessary  information  in the  correct                                                               
format.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:09:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There  being  no  further  business  before  the  committee,  the                                                               
Legislative Budget  and Audit Committee meeting  was adjourned at                                                               
2:09 p.m.                                                                                                                       

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
LBAC Agenda 08.21.25 FINAL.pdf JBUD 8/21/2025 1:00:00 PM
2025-08-05_Nicolai Creek Unit Royalty Modification Preliminary BIF.pdf JBUD 8/21/2025 1:00:00 PM
DNR presentation Nicolai Creek Unit Royalty Modification 8-21-2025.pdf JBUD 8/21/2025 1:00:00 PM