Legislature(2019 - 2020)BUTROVICH 205

03/17/2020 03:30 PM Senate STATE AFFAIRS

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03:43:46 PM Start
03:44:47 PM SB88
03:50:46 PM Confirmation Hearing(s)
04:06:48 PM SJR14
04:08:36 PM SB188
05:08:51 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
Moved CSSB 88(STA) Out of Committee
Scheduled but Not Heard
+ Consideration of Governor's Appointees: TELECONFERENCED
Personnel Board
- Craig Johnson
Alaska Public Offices Commission
- Hardy Lawrence
- Daniel LaSota
-- Public Testimony on All Appointees --
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
Moved SJR 14 Out of Committee
              SB 188-LOTTERY: PUB. CORP; FUND; UNLAWFUL SALE                                                                
    4:08:36 PM                                                                                                                
    CHAIR   REVAK   reconvened   the   meeting   and   announced  the                                                           
    consideration  of SENATE BILL  NO. 188, "An  Act establishing the                                                           
    Alaska  Lottery Corporation; relating to  the powers, duties, and                                                           
    laws  applicable to the  Alaska Lottery Corporation; establishing                                                           
    a  lottery  profits  fund  as an  account  of  the  general fund;                                                           
    establishing the  crime of unlawful sale of a lottery ticket; and                                                           
    providing for an effective date."                                                                                           
4:10:08 PM                                                                                                                    
GREGORY SAMORAJSKI,  Senior Development Executive,  Department of                                                               
Commerce, Community and  Economic Development (DCCED), Anchorage,                                                               
Alaska,  began a  PowerPoint,  "A Proposal  to  Create an  Alaska                                                               
State  Lottery   Corporation."  He  reviewed  slide   2,  Lottery                                                               
     •  New Hampshire 1964                                                                                                      
     •  Instant Scratch-Off Tickets 1970                                                                                        
     •  Multi-State Draw Games                                                                                                  
        • Powerball 1988                                                                                                        
        • Mega Millions 1996                                                                                                    
     •  45 States Currently Operate Lotteries                                                                                   
The  modern lotteries  began in  New Hampshire  with a  draw-type                                                               
game. Draw-type games are ones where  draws are taken from an urn                                                               
and the players match the numbers to their tickets to win.                                                                      
He said states who participate  in Powerball lotteries pool their                                                               
resources to produce  large prizes. He related that 43  of the 45                                                               
states that  currently operate lotteries  offer draw  and instant                                                               
game  lotteries. If  Alaska were  to  adopt a  lottery, it  would                                                               
become the 46th state to do so.                                                                                                 
4:12:17 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  SAMORAJSKI reviewed  slide  3, Lotteries  are a  Significant                                                               
Revenue Source:                                                                                                                 
     •  Total National Sales $85.6 Billion in 2018                                                                              
He said  that of  the $85.6  billion in  2018, $23.4  billion has                                                               
been returned to the state general funds or education funds.                                                                    
4:12:54 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.   SAMORAJSKI  reviewed   slide   4,  No   Longer  Just   Your                                                               
Grandfather's Lottery!                                                                                                          
     Traditional Games 2018 Revenues in $Billions                                                                               
     •  Power Ball, Mega Millions $8.3 All States                                                                               
     •  Other Draw Games $15.5 -All States                                                                                      
      •  Instant Scratch-Offs $49.6 All States Except ND                                                                        
     and WY                                                                                                                     
     •  Total Traditional $73.4                                                                                                 
     •  Total All Games $85.6                                                                                                   
    He said the vast majority of the $73.4 billion was from                                                                     
    scratch-off tickets.                                                                                                        
         New Games 2018 Revenues in $Billions                                                                                   
         •  Monitor Games Like Keno $4.4 19 States Plus DC                                                                      
         •  Video Lottery Terminals $6.9 8 States: DE, MD,                                                                      
         NY, OH, OR, RI, SD, WV                                                                                                 
    He  noted  that  these  games are  typically  played  in  bars or                                                           
    4:14:34 PM                                                                                                                
    MR. SAMORAJSKI reviewed slide 5, Revenue Breakdown Example:                                                                 
         •  Prize Money 60%                                                                                                     
         •  Retailer Commissions 6%                                                                                             
         •  Gaming Contractor 10%                                                                                               
         •  Administration 4%                                                                                                   
         •  Transfer to General Fund 20%                                                                                        
    4:15:49 PM                                                                                                                
    MR.  SAMORAJSKI  reviewed slide  6,  How Are  States  Like Alaska                                                           
    Doing  2018 Results:                                                                                                        
       Revenues in $Million/State Share $Million/% Return                                                                       
         •  Wyoming $28.70/$5.0/17.45%                                                                                          
         •  North Dakota $31.30/$8.0/25.6%                                                                                      
         •  South Dakota $278.80/$124.7/44.7%                                                                                   
         •  Montana $56.6/$10.7/18.9%                                                                                           
         •  Maine $294.10/$63.0/21.4%                                                                                           
         •  Idaho $265.10/$53.5/20.2%                                                                                           
    He explained  that slide 6 lists the states whose populations are                                                           
    similar  in size to Alaska. It lists  the total amount of revenue                                                           
    generated  by the  state's lottery,  then the  portion of revenue                                                           
    allocated  to  the state,  and  finally the  percentage  of total                                                           
    revenue  the  state  receives.  For  example,  Wyoming  generated                                                           
    $28.70  million  in total  revenue.  The state's  share  was $5.0                                                           
    million,  which  represents 17.45  percent  of the  total revenue                                                           
    generated  by the  lottery. States that  allow scratch-off games,                                                           
    such  as Montana and  Maine, generate more  revenue. South Dakota                                                           
    has  video  lottery terminals,  so  its revenue  is substantially                                                           
    higher, he said.                                                                                                            
    4:17:27 PM                                                                                                                
CHAIR REVAK asked what video lottery terminals entail.                                                                          
MR.  SAMORAJSKI  replied  these terminals  allow  games  such  as                                                               
blackjack or poker.  He said he was not advocating  for Alaska to                                                               
offer video lottery terminals, but  it is something the state may                                                               
wish to consider.                                                                                                               
CHAIR REVAK  noted South  Dakota's return to  the state  was 44.7                                                               
percent, which is higher than all  the others. He asked if it has                                                               
anything to do with tourism.                                                                                                    
MR.  SAMORAJSKI answered  that 44.7  percent  represents the  net                                                               
earnings  from video  lottery terminals.  The winning  percentage                                                               
for players is much higher, he said.                                                                                            
SENATOR KAWASAKI  observed that in  North Dakota, $30  million in                                                               
revenue returned $8 million to the state.                                                                                       
MR. SAMORAJSKI agreed  and added that the ratio  of total revenue                                                               
to net revenue is typically 20-30 percent.                                                                                      
4:20:39 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KAWASAKI asked  if nonresidents  play and  win lotteries                                                               
while on vacation  in North Dakota. If so, the  winnings were not                                                               
necessarily money won by residents of North Dakota.                                                                             
MR. SAMORAJSKI agreed  that anyone physically in  the state could                                                               
play the state lottery games.                                                                                                   
SENATOR  KAWASAKI  asked  if  the  figures  on  slide  6  include                                                               
earnings from tribal gaming because  Wyoming, North Dakota, South                                                               
Dakota, and Montana permit that.                                                                                                
MR. SAMORAJSKI answered no.                                                                                                     
4:21:54 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SAMORAJSKI reviewed slide 7, Potential Revenues for Alaska:                                                                 
     With Draw Games Only - $6.5 Million                                                                                        
     •  Add Instant Scratch-Off Tickets - $35 Million                                                                           
      •  Add Video Lottery Terminals and Monitor Games -                                                                        
     $135 Million                                                                                                               
He explained that the Department of Revenue developed these                                                                     
revenue estimates based on other states' results and scaled                                                                     
for Alaska's population.                                                                                                        
    The  point of the slide  is to illustrate  that at least offering                                                           
    scratch-off tickets  will be necessary for a lottery to provide a                                                           
    significant source of revenue.                                                                                              
    MR. SAMORAJSKI reviewed slide 8, Senate Bill 188:                                                                           
         New Alaska State Lottery Corporation                                                                                   
         •  Directors Appointed by the Governor                                                                                 
         •  Broad Authority                                                                                                     
              •  Select Games                                                                                                   
              •  Promulgate Regulations                                                                                         
              •  Choose Retailers and Contractors                                                                               
    This  slide shows  that  under a  corporate structure,  the state                                                           
    would delegate  most of the authority to operate the lottery to a                                                           
    state  lottery corporation that, in  turn, might hire contractors                                                           
    and retailers to run the lottery.                                                                                           
    4:24:24 PM                                                                                                                
    MR.   SAMORAJSKI  reviewed   slide  9,   Possible  Implementation                                                           
         •  Legislative Approval this Session                                                                                   
         •  Board Directors Appointed Summer 2020                                                                               
         •  Executive Director Hired by Fall 2020                                                                               
         •  Organization Year FY 21 Including:                                                                                  
              •  Hire Consultant and Gaming Contractor                                                                          
              •  Appoint Retailers                                                                                              
              •  Background Checks                                                                                              
         •  FY 22 Break Even                                                                                                    
         •  FY 23 Transfers to the General Fund                                                                                 
    He  said the idea  would be to  create a special  sub-fund in the                                                           
    general  fund  (GF)  to  deposit  the  lottery  earnings  and the                                                           
    legislature would decide on appropriations from that sub-fund.                                                              
    4:25:39 PM                                                                                                                
    MR.  SAMORAJSKI  reviewed  slide  9,  Appropriations    Potential                                                           
         •  FY 21 - $3 Million Capital Appropriation Request                                                                    
         with Additional Authority to Borrow Funds                                                                              
         •  FY 22  Break Even                                                                                                   
         •  FY 23 and Beyond  Payments to the State General                                                                     
He  estimated  that  startup  costs  would be  a  minimum  of  $3                                                               
million.  After the  break-even year,  the legislature  would not                                                               
need to appropriate any additional funds, he said.                                                                              
4:26:27 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAWASAKI said  he was agnostic to the  idea of commercial                                                               
gaming in Alaska. Besides the  potential revenue, he asked if the                                                               
administration  examined  the  societal losses  or  downsides  of                                                               
MR. SAMORAJSKI said they found the  problems are more a result of                                                               
casinos  than state  lottery games.  He  acknowledged that  video                                                               
lotteries have not been around very long.                                                                                       
4:29:12 PM                                                                                                                    
BISHOP  WOOSLEY,  Director,  Arkansas Lottery;  President,  North                                                               
American  Association of  State &  Provincial Lotteries  (NASPL),                                                               
Little  Rock, Arkansas,  spoke in  support of  SB 188.  He stated                                                               
that  the  NASPL consists  of  53  North American  lotteries;  it                                                               
advocates  on behalf  of the  lottery  industry. The  association                                                               
primarily promotes responsible  gambling and provides statistical                                                               
information  to   states.  He  characterized  the   NASPL  as  an                                                               
educational organization;  it will work with  the legislature and                                                               
the  administration while  Alaska considers  whether to  create a                                                               
lottery in the state.                                                                                                           
CHAIR  REVAK asked  if  there have  been  societal detriments  or                                                               
negative impacts from the lottery industry in Arkansas.                                                                         
MR. WOOSLEY  answered no.  He explained that  Arkansas has  had a                                                               
lottery  for over  10 years.  Arkansas  has found  that the  core                                                               
demographic of players who play every  day are ones who earn from                                                               
$25,000-$30,000  annually and  those who  earn $75,000  annually.                                                               
There  is no  evidence that  it has  created societal  issues. He                                                               
said Arkansas is  one of the newer lotteries and  it brought some                                                               
form  and  structure  to  the  organization  and  to  responsible                                                               
gambling  within  the state.  Prior  to  creating lotteries,  the                                                               
state  had two  rasinos in  the  state, which  are entities  that                                                               
combine racing  and casinos. At  the time, there was  very little                                                               
money directed  towards problem gambling and  little awareness of                                                               
programs that  were available. Once state  lotteries came online,                                                               
Arkansas highlighted  the national problem gambling  helpline and                                                               
made  programs available  to help  people  address their  problem                                                               
gambling issues. He said anytime  gambling is present, there will                                                               
be some people  who play more than they should,  but these people                                                               
can get  help. Arkansas  is a heavy  instant game  lottery state,                                                               
    but  thus  far there  is  no evidence  of a  societal  issue with                                                           
    instant scratch-off tickets.                                                                                                
    4:33:25 PM                                                                                                                
    SENATOR COGHILL  asked if setting up a lottery by commission is a                                                           
    common structure.                                                                                                           
    MR.  WOOSLEY answered that most  lotteries use a commission-based                                                           
    structure,  but  some use  a corporate,  state agency,  or quasi-                                                           
    state  agency  based  structure.  Arkansas  initially  was formed                                                           
    using a commission, but it no longer uses that structure.                                                                   
    SENATOR   COGHILL  related  his   understanding  that  Alaska  is                                                           
    considering  a quasi-state corporation rather than a corporation.                                                           
    He  asked how to  distinguish between  residents and nonresidents                                                           
    participating  in lotteries. Alaska only has about 350,000 adults                                                           
    and is  also almost like an island since it is separated from the                                                           
    Lower 48.  He wondered if nonresidents must participate for it to                                                           
    be worthwhile for Alaska to operate a lottery.                                                                              
    MR.  WOOSLEY responded that Arkansas  has seven border states, so                                                           
    it  has a  tourism  industry. He  related his  understanding that                                                           
    Alaska  has  a seasonal  tourism  industry. He  pointed  out that                                                           
    Wyoming  and Montana are  smaller states that  have established a                                                           
    market  for  a  lottery.  He opined  that  people  in  Alaska are                                                           
    probably  already involved  in gaming,  so there  is a  market in                                                           
    4:37:00 PM                                                                                                                
    SENATOR  KAWASAKI asked  if the  gambling hotline  in Arkansas is                                                           
    funded via revenues from legal gaming or from the general fund.                                                             
    MR. WOOSLEY  answered that the hotline is funded by the state and                                                           
    other  gaming  entities  in  the  state.  Since  the  hotline  is                                                           
    national,  he said he was not aware  of the exact costs. Arkansas                                                           
    receives and  posts a monthly report that includes the number and                                                           
    nature of  the call, if the call was referred for assistance, and                                                           
    any  follow-up.  The  state  website has  10  years  of reporting                                                           
    listed.  He offered his view that  all gaming entities nationwide                                                           
    fund   the  hotline,  including   lotteries,  casinos,  or  other                                                           
    gambling  organizations. He said Arkansas also provides a list of                                                           
    other  resources available,  such as the  National Association of                                                           
    Problem  Gambling. Arkansas  has a  certification that  shows the                                                           
    process,  from  the creation  of  the games,  any  advertising or                                                           
    marketing, and  how the games are sold in retail. Many states are                                                           
    moving  towards that  model. He  characterized Arkansas  as self-                                                           
policing;  it uses  self-imposed  guidelines  to avoid  marketing                                                               
games that problem gamblers would find attractive.                                                                              
4:39:48 PM                                                                                                                    
DAVID  BARTON, Director,  New  Mexico  Lottery, Albuquerque,  New                                                               
Mexico,  said he  has been  involved with  lotteries since  2001,                                                               
beginning with  his work  in South Carolina.  He worked  with Mr.                                                               
Woosley when Arkansas  began its lottery. He also  served for 15-                                                               
16  years as  a staff  attorney  for the  South Carolina  Senate,                                                               
drafting  legislation.  He  opined  that SB  188  is  a  forward-                                                               
thinking piece of legislation and that  it is important to get it                                                               
right from the start. He offered  his view that Alaskans could be                                                               
proud of  the proposed  lottery structure,  noting that  the bill                                                               
provides  that revenues  could be  used to  fund programs  in the                                                               
state  addressing   domestic  violence  prevention,   drug  abuse                                                               
prevention, foster care, seniors,  or homelessness. It also helps                                                               
promote  the lottery  since people  can  see where  the money  is                                                               
spent.  He mentioned  that Powerball  sales  nationwide are  down                                                               
about 30 percent. It is also important to have a good scratch-                                                                  
off product along  with online games to create  a good portfolio.                                                               
He  predicted  that  a  multi-jurisdictional  organization  would                                                               
likely sell  games internationally. He explained  that New Mexico                                                               
also  has tribal  casinos and  fraternal organizations  that sell                                                               
lottery products.                                                                                                               
4:42:58 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR COGHILL  acknowledged that  he personally  struggles with                                                               
this.  He asked  how many  New Mexico  residents are  winners. He                                                               
expressed  concern that  Alaska  could receive  revenue, but  the                                                               
state's residents might not be lottery winners.                                                                                 
MR.  BARTON answered  that 95  percent of  scratch games  will be                                                               
residents.  He related  his experience  in New  Mexico, including                                                               
that residents are not usually  Powerball winners. However, there                                                               
are a  few winners, he said.  Since players must wait  a few days                                                               
after  playing Powerball  to  find  out if  they  have won,  many                                                               
people prefer scratch games. He  reported that New Mexico has not                                                               
had  any problems  with  lottery  gaming, and  that  most of  the                                                               
problems arise from casinos.                                                                                                    
4:45:58 PM                                                                                                                    
KEVIN  COCHRAN, Government  Affairs Manager,  Draft Kings,  Inc.,                                                               
Boston,  Massachusetts,   spoke  in  support  of   mobile  sports                                                               
wagering. He  said Draft  Kings, Inc.  was founded  in 2012  as a                                                               
daily fantasy  sports company, with  the goal of  bringing sports                                                               
fans  closer to  the games  they love.  Since then,  Draft Kings,                                                               
Inc.  has  evolved  into an  international  sports  entertainment                                                               
    company  with  more  than  10  million  customers  throughout the                                                           
    world.  In  May  2018,  the U.S.  Supreme  Court  invalidated the                                                           
    Professional  and Amateur Sports Protection Act of 1992 or PASPA.                                                           
    This paved  the way for states to legalize sports wagering within                                                           
    their borders.  In August 2018, Draft Kings, Inc. made history by                                                           
    being  the first  company to offer  a mobile  sports wagering app                                                           
    outside of Nevada by launching the app in New Jersey.                                                                       
    4:47:19 PM                                                                                                                
    MR.  COCHRAN spoke  in support  of bringing  a competitive, fully                                                           
    mobile sports wagering market to Alaska.                                                                                    
    He  stated  that  Draft  King  supports  a  legal  framework that                                                           
    protects  consumers, will generate maximum revenue for the state,                                                           
    and  stamp out  the pervasive  illegal market.  He estimated that                                                           
    138,000 people  bet over $348 million in illegal wagers each year                                                           
    through illegal online offshore websites.                                                                                   
    MR.   COCHRAN  explained   that  mobile   sports  betting  allows                                                           
    customers  to place  bets from their  mobile phones.  He said New                                                           
    Jersey  has established itself as the  leader in states that have                                                           
    chosen  to regulate  sports wagers.  Over $3.2  billion in wagers                                                           
    have  been placed since  2018, with  over 85 percent  of the bets                                                           
    placed  via  online  platforms. Mississippi  chose  to  limit its                                                           
    wagers to  on casino premises, which led to less wagers, he said.                                                           
    Alaska   should   consider  building   a  strong   and  effective                                                           
    regulatory  regime  that  has  competitive  pricing,  includes  a                                                           
    mobile  device market, and  allows multiple operators  to serve a                                                           
    He said  Draft King, Inc. takes seriously issues such as underage                                                           
    wagering   and   problem   gambling   and   encourages   consumer                                                           
    protections.   His   organization  uses   "know   your  customer"                                                           
    technology  to ensure underage individuals cannot create accounts                                                           
    or  place wagers. The verification process uses multiple vendors,                                                           
    working  with  leading  companies  to  monitor  and  detect  user                                                           
    locations  using  cell phone  location data,  Wi-Fi triangulation                                                           
    and  other technology.  The organization  provides safeguards for                                                           
    users  that allow  customers to set  their own  deposits and play                                                           
    limits  and to self-exclude from  participation. Users have their                                                           
    entire  transaction history available at  any time, including all                                                           
    bets  they have placed, their winnings  and losses, and a summary                                                           
    of their  plays over the last month, three months, year, or their                                                           
    MR.  COCHRAN  suggested  that  if  Alaska  wants  to  protect its                                                           
    consumers,  shutter offshore illegal  sports betting markets, and                                                           
provide the  state with  additional revenue  streams, it  is best                                                               
achieved  through  a  competitive,   fully  mobile  sports  wager                                                               
CHAIR  REVAK reminded  those  online to  limit  testimony to  two                                                               
4:54:20 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REVAK opened public testimony on SB 188.                                                                                  
4:54:36 PM                                                                                                                    
KEVIN   MCKINLEY,  Member,   Alaska   Shriners;  Member,   Alaska                                                               
Charitable  Gaming  Association,   Fairbanks,  Alaska,  said  the                                                               
Alaska Shriners  help children with  medical bills and  help fund                                                               
travel  so  they  make  it to  their  hospital  appointments.  He                                                               
questioned the unintended consequences of  the bill, such that it                                                               
would greatly  reduce revenue for charities.  The Alaska Shriners                                                               
help  approximately   200  children   through  the   proceeds  of                                                               
charitable  gaming.  He  asked what  effect  lotteries  in  other                                                               
states has had on charitable gaming.                                                                                            
CHAIR REVAK said the committee will keep the question in mind.                                                                  
4:57:00 PM                                                                                                                    
SANDY  POWERS,  President,  Alaska  Charitable  Gaming  Alliance,                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska,  spoke in opposition  to SB 188. She  said she                                                               
also owns and  operates Big Valley Bingo, which  raises money for                                                               
charities. She said  her organization opened in  2017, employs 20                                                               
Alaskans, and represents 15 charities.  In its first two years it                                                               
has  contributed over  $570,000 to  the Mat-Su  Valley community,                                                               
donating to  local charities.  She said  the alliance  thought it                                                               
should have  had a seat at  the table earlier in  the legislative                                                               
process. She expressed concern with  the expansion of gambling in                                                               
Alaska.  Much  of the  revenue  will  go  outside Alaska  and  an                                                               
estimated $100 million in revenues  will not fix the state's $1.5                                                               
billion budget gap. Many states  rank low economically, including                                                               
New Mexico,  which ranks forty-fifth  in the nation.  States with                                                               
legalized  gambling  suffer  from   increased  crime  and  drugs.                                                               
Further, under the bill, a  gaming corporation could make changes                                                               
without  legislative  oversight.  She explained  that  charitable                                                               
gaming was  created to raise  money for  nonprofit organizations.                                                               
The state  has nearly 1,100  charities that benefit from  the $35                                                               
million  raised  annually  from  charitable  gaming.  Over  1,000                                                               
Alaskans work  in the  charitable gaming  industry. She  said the                                                               
alliance has  nonprofit support from  the Alaska Police  and Fire                                                               
Chaplains, the Fraternal Order of  State Troopers, and the Alaska                                                               
    Peace  Officers Association.  She noted  that she  also submitted                                                           
    written testimony.                                                                                                          
    CHAIR   REVAK  suggested  people   submit  written  testimony  at                                                           
    5:01:04 PM                                                                                                                
    DAVID   LAMBERT,   Owner,  Tab   Wizard  of   Alaska,  Fairbanks,                                                           
    Fairbanks, Alaska,  said he is a gaming operator who raises funds                                                           
    for   about  25  organizations.  He  explained  that  scratch-off                                                           
    tickets  are pull tabs. Currently,  $35 million goes to charities                                                           
    from  pull tab sales and charitable  gaming in Alaska. He offered                                                           
    his  view that the only  way to raise  $35-40 million in scratch-                                                           
    off  tickets  will  be  to take  away  funds  from  charities. He                                                           
    suggested   that  the  legislature   set  up  a   task  force  to                                                           
    investigate lotteries.                                                                                                      
    5:02:14 PM                                                                                                                
    LES   BURNAL,   National  Director,   Stop   Predatory  Gambling,                                                           
    Washington,  D.C., spoke in opposition to  SB 188. He stated that                                                           
    his  organization  is  a nonprofit  organization  comprised  of a                                                           
    national  social reform network  of individuals and organizations                                                           
    across  the country.  Many people  gamble because they  are broke                                                           
    and  desperate. Even  though saving  money leads  to wealth, more                                                           
    than  two-thirds of  Alaskan  citizens do  not have  any savings,                                                           
    according  to GoBankingRates.com. He provided other statistics to                                                           
    illustrate  the number  of Alaskans  that would  be vulnerable to                                                           
    gambling.  He offered  his view  that commercialized  gambling is                                                           
    America's  biggest and most neglected problem. In 2018, Americans                                                           
    lost  $118  billion of  personal wealth  to government-sanctioned                                                           
    gambling.  Alaska's  citizens have  not  suffered those  types of                                                           
    financial  losses because it has not legalized gambling. He urged                                                           
    members to avoid "the scheme" before them today.                                                                            
    5:06:11 PM                                                                                                                
    MAC  MEINERS, Owner, Rippie World, Anchorage, Alaska, stated that                                                           
    he  has worked in charitable  gaming for over  20 years. He asked                                                           
    the  committee  to think  about  how to  proceed.  He recommended                                                           
    limiting  lotteries in Alaska to scratch-off tickets and figuring                                                           
    out  how to include  charities as beneficiaries. He  said he does                                                           
    not  want to  see  charitable gaming  go away  since he  funds 26                                                           
    charities through Rippie World.                                                                                             
    5:08:20 PM                                                                                                                
    CHAIR  REVAK,  after  first  determining no  one  else  wished to                                                           
    testify, closed public testimony on SB 188.                                                                                 
[SB 188 was held in committee.]                                                                                                 

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 188 Sectional Analysis v. A 2.17.20.pdf SSTA 3/17/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 188
SB 188 Transmittal Letter 2.11.2020.pdf SSTA 3/17/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 188
Craig Johnson Personnel Board.pdf SSTA 3/17/2020 3:30:00 PM
Consideration of Governor's Appointee
Daniel LaSota GOV appointee AK Public Offices Commission.pdf SSTA 3/17/2020 3:30:00 PM
Consideration of Governor's Appointee
Hardy Van Z. Larence GOV appointee AK Public Offices Commission 3.16.20.pdf SSTA 3/17/2020 3:30:00 PM
Consideration of Governor's Appointee-Public Offices Commission
HB 83 CS workdraft 31-LS0635.S.pdf SSTA 3/17/2020 3:30:00 PM
HB 83
SB 188 Oppsoe Heesch 3.17.2020.pdf SSTA 3/17/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 188
SB 188 Oppose ACGA 3.16.2020.pdf SSTA 3/17/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 188
SB 188 DK Support 3.16.2020.pdf SSTA 3/17/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 188
SB 188 DOR Presentation 3.17.2020.pdf SSTA 3/17/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 188
SB 188 DOR White Paper 3.17.2020.pdf SSTA 3/17/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 188
SB 88 CS verson 31-LS0284.S 3.17.2020.pdf SSTA 3/17/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 88