Legislature(2005 - 2006)BELTZ 211

04/14/2005 03:30 PM Senate STATE AFFAIRS


Download Mp3. <- Right click and save file as

* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
* SB 94 STATE EMPLOYEE HEALTH INSURANCE
Heard & Held
HB 116 LIABILITY FOR ALCOHOL LAW VIOLATIONS
Moved CSHB 116(JUD) Out of Committee
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled
= SB 12 LIMIT RELATIONS WITH CERTAIN NATIONS
Moved CSSB 12(STA) Out of Committee
= HB 95 PUBLIC HEALTH DISASTERS/EMERGENCIES
Moved SCS CSHB 95(STA) Out of Committee
= SB 24 REEMPLOYMENT OF RETIREES
Moved CSSSSB 24(STA) Out of Committee
                SSSB 24-REEMPLOYMENT OF RETIREES                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR GENE THERRIAULT announced the first order of business to                                                                  
be SB 24.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:39:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT requested a motion to adopt the proposed                                                                       
committee substitute (CS).                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR CHARLIE HUGGINS motioned to adopt \I version CS for SSSB
24 as the working document.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
HEATHER BRAKES, Staff to Senator Therriault, outlined the                                                                       
proposed changes:                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     · Section 1 calls for an annual report to the legislature                                                                  
        to explain what employers are doing to plan for shortages                                                               
        in certain employment areas.                                                                                            
     · Section 2 applies to the TRS system and mirrors Section 3                                                                
          · Subsection 2(a) grandfathers any employees                                                                          
             hired as  of 7/1/05.  Those employees  may                                                                         
             continue under the waiver for one year. On                                                                         
             7/1/06 that  benefit  would  no longer  be                                                                         
             available.  An  employee   could  continue                                                                         
             employment, but  he/she  would  no  longer                                                                         
             receive   a   retirement   benefit   while                                                                         
             employed.                                                                                                          
            · Subsection (b) states that an employer                                                                            
             must offer health insurance to the rehired                                                                         
             retiree just  as  they  do for  all  other                                                                         
             employees.   Furthermore,   that   medical                                                                         
             coverage would  be  the  primary and  only                                                                         
             coverage. An employee  would no  longer be                                                                         
             able to use the retirement medical benefit                                                                         
             as secondary coverage.                                                                                             
          · Subsection (c) requires that the employer                                                                           
             make   contributions   to   the   unfunded                                                                         
             liability at  the same  rate that  is made                                                                         
             for all other employees.                                                                                           
     · Section 3 applies to the PERS system and mirrors Section                                                                 
        2                                                                                                                       
          · Subsections 3(a)(b)(c) mirror subsections                                                                           
             2(a)(b)(c).                                                                                                        
     · Section 4 is a conditional retroactive date.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:42:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT recapped Ms. Brakes' explanation.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KIM ELTON said the way he reads Section 1 is that it                                                                    
would only require the TRS and PERS administrators to report on                                                                 
the effect of the act on the retirement systems.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT said that's correct.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  ELTON  asked for  clarification  that  it's a  one  year                                                               
extension for  those already  in the  system and  not a  one year                                                               
extension so that employers can  continue to hire new people into                                                               
the system.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  THERRIAULT  said  that's   correct.  He  added  there  was                                                               
discussion in his  office about trying to  understand the reasons                                                               
why it's so difficult to  fill certain positions, but that wasn't                                                               
part of the CS.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  ELTON remarked  it's  a  good idea  to  know why  things                                                               
happen.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT  responded that  should already  be part  of the                                                               
human resource job description and duty list.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR CHARLIE HUGGINS asked whether  there would be a mechanism                                                               
to rehire a retiree if this bill were to pass.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MIKE TIBBLES,  Deputy Commissioner, Department  of Administration                                                               
(DOA),  explained that  the  state could  still  bring a  retiree                                                               
back, but he/she would accrue  additional retirement benefits and                                                               
the employer would be required  to contribute into the system for                                                               
those benefits.  The pension benefit  would be suspended  for the                                                               
reemployment period.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT recapped the explanation.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGGINS questioned  whether it  would be  attractive for                                                               
retired teachers to come back.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TIBBLES acknowledged  it is  a concern  and the  legislature                                                               
should continue to hold such discussions.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGGINS added  he is  also concerned  about the  alleged                                                               
abuses to the current system.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT  remarked Mr. Tibbles certainly  intends to push                                                               
the  Administration's position  that it  could add  sideboards to                                                               
make it acceptable for the system to go forward.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
He asked Mr. Tibbles whether the  changes in the CS would require                                                               
refiguring the fiscal note.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TIBBLES  said  he  would  have  to  double  check  with  the                                                               
division, but he believes the analysis is still correct.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  THERRIAULT  noted the  CS  asks  employees  to go  on  the                                                               
regular health system and asks  departments to make contributions                                                               
to  hold the  retirement system  harmless. He  questioned whether                                                               
that wouldn't result in some sort of fiscal impact.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TIBBLES replied  the  State of  Alaska  is providing  health                                                               
coverage for those  who return but the concern  centers on what's                                                               
happening  at  the  municipal   level.  Municipalities  would  be                                                               
required to  provide primary health  coverage and not  be allowed                                                               
to cost shift health coverage to the retirement account.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   THERRIAULT  elaborated,   municipalities  chose   not  to                                                               
continue the  regular health insurance and  forced rehired people                                                               
into the retirement health insurance.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. TIBBLES agreed that happened in several instances.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON  observed that if  you were to replace  the current                                                               
retire/rehires in one year, the  employee cost to the state would                                                               
go up.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:51:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT noted there were  no further questions and asked                                                               
the will of the committee.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGGINS  motioned  to  report SB  24,  as  amended,  and                                                               
attached   fiscal    note   from   committee    with   individual                                                               
recommendations.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT asked Mr. Tibbles to review the fiscal note.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
He announced that there being  no objection, CSSSSB 24(STA) moved                                                               
from committee.                                                                                                                 

Document Name Date/Time Subjects