Legislature(2017 - 2018)BUTROVICH 205

03/12/2018 03:30 PM RESOURCES

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*+ SB 211 TEMP. TRANSFER OF COMM. FISHING PERMITS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
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        SSSB 211-TEMP. TRANSFER OF COMM. FISHING PERMITS                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:30:56 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL announced consideration of SB 211 [SSSB 211 was                                                                   
before the committee]. This is the first hearing.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
TIM LAMKIN, staff to Senator Stevens, Alaska State Legislature,                                                                 
Juneau, Alaska, said SSSB 211 attempts to address the graying of                                                                
Alaska's  fishing  fleet.  It   establishes  a  temporary  permit                                                               
transfer  process   to  connect   the  more   experienced  master                                                               
fishermen with younger journeymen to  train them over a period of                                                               
time  to take  over  the reins.  The intent  is  to help  younger                                                               
fishermen  with  some  upward  mobility  into  the  industry  and                                                               
provide  them  with  some advanced  training.  The  stakeholders,                                                               
fishermen, and Commercial Fisheries  Entry Commission (CFEC), all                                                               
support this  idea. The bill  uses terms that convey  the purpose                                                               
of allowing  the means  for a master  fisherman to  phase himself                                                               
out as younger fishermen are trained to phase themselves in.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:33:07 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. LAMKIN said  that Section 25 is the  substantive component of                                                               
this  bill  and  he  would  start  with  that  in  his  sectional                                                               
analysis.  Every  other  section   is  conforming  amendments  to                                                               
existing statute.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Section 25 adds  a new subsection establishing  the Alaska Master                                                               
Fisher  Retirement  Transfer Program  (AMFRT).  In  trying to  be                                                               
gender neutral he  realizes "fisher" needs to be  changed back to                                                               
"fisherman" with  the intent of  still being gender  neutral. The                                                               
following  is the  sectional analysis  of the  rest of  SSSB 211,                                                               
version 30-LS1369\D:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     (a) Would  require that the  transfer not  be initiated                                                                    
     during  an   open  fishing  season,  so   it's  not  an                                                                    
     impromptu decision.                                                                                                        
     (b) The transfer  process is limited to a  period of no                                                                    
     more than  three consecutive years,  so it can't  be in                                                                    
     perpetuity. This  bill was  carefully crafted  to honor                                                                    
     the  Limited Entry  Program and  avoids looking  like a                                                                    
     leasing program.                                                                                                           
     (c) The  transfer process must include  written binding                                                                    
     contract between both parties filed with CFEC.                                                                             
     (d) Provides that the primary  permit holder be present                                                                    
     during 50 percent of the fishing season.                                                                                   
     (e)  The journeyman  must use  the master's  vessel for                                                                    
     the fishing season.                                                                                                        
     (f) Provides  that both names of  master and journeyman                                                                    
     are on the permit.                                                                                                         
     (g)  The journeyman  qualifies  to  participate in  the                                                                    
     AMFRT program if the journeyman:                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     1.  applies to  the  CFEC  on a  form  approved by  the                                                                    
     ADF&G.                                                                                                                     
     2.  Demonstrates  having  been  employed by  and  be  a                                                                    
     crewmember for  the master  for a  minimum of  one year                                                                    
     prior to initiating the transfer process.                                                                                  
     3.  Meets  marine  and  navigational  safety  standards                                                                    
     appropriate for  the fishery and sophistication  of the                                                                    
     vessel    being   operated,    including   demonstrated                                                                    
     knowledge of the fishery and  of protecting the state's                                                                    
     fisheries and marine environment and                                                                                       
     4. Paid a required fee.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     The   CFEC  is   charged   with  adopting   regulations                                                                    
     specifying  the   forms,  dates  of   application,  and                                                                    
     procedures to be followed in  applying for and renewing                                                                    
     a temporary  permit transfer  under the  AMFRT program.                                                                    
     These   regulations   will   also   include   reporting                                                                    
     requirements for both master and journeyman.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:38:15 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MEYER joined the meeting.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:39:06 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. LAMKIN provided the rest of the analysis as follows:                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1  Conforms with the  naming of the  program as                                                                    
     "the Alaska  Master Fisher Retirement  Transfer Program                                                                    
     (AMFRT."                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2  Allows the Board  of Fisheries to  require a                                                                    
     fisherman  participating in  the  AMFRT  program to  be                                                                    
     physically present at the fishing site.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section  3 Requires  a fisherman  participating in  the                                                                    
     AMFRT  program to  hold  a  commercial fishing  license                                                                    
     during their portion of the  transfer process when they                                                                    
     are  actually  fishing under  the  permit,  as well  as                                                                    
     requiring  a   crew  member   license  when   an  AMFRT                                                                    
     participant is on the vessel,  but not directly fishing                                                                    
     under the permit.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Section 4  Exempts resident  participants of  the AMFRT                                                                    
     program from  having to  pay a fee  for an  annual crew                                                                    
     member fishing license.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section  5  Exempts  nonresident  participants  of  the                                                                    
     AMFRT  program  from having  to  pay  a fee  for  their                                                                    
     annual crewmember fishing license.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section  6 Exempts  participants of  the AMFRT  program                                                                    
     from being eligible for  a seven-day crewmember fishing                                                                    
     license.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:41:08 PM                                                                                                                    
     Section  7 Incldues  in the  definition of  "commercial                                                                    
     fishing license" the  entry perjimnit being temporarily                                                                    
     transferred through the AMFRT program.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section 8  Allows participants in the  AMFRT to deliver                                                                    
     or  land   fish  provided  they  meet   the  permitting                                                                    
     requirements   consistent   with  existing   commercial                                                                    
     fishing laws and regulations.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section  9  Provides  for  participants  in  the  AMFRT                                                                    
     program  to be  able  to employ  crew  for purposes  of                                                                    
     commercial  fishing activities,  and  to transport  and                                                                    
     sell fish caught commercially.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section    10   Includes    criminal   penalties    for                                                                    
     participants  of   the  AMFRT   program  if   they  are                                                                    
     convicted for  failure to be  present, on  board during                                                                    
     commercial fishing activity under their permit.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section  11   Includes  the   provision  that   a  fish                                                                    
     processor or  commercial buyer  may only  purchase fish                                                                    
     from  permit  holders,  including participants  of  the                                                                    
     AMFRT program.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section  12 Provides  that  participants  of the  AMFRT                                                                    
     program   must  possess   and   present  their   permit                                                                    
     identification  when  selling  commercial  fish  caught                                                                    
     under their permit.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Section  13  Includes   AMFRT  program  participants  n                                                                    
     common  property fisheries  and  terminal harvest  area                                                                    
     takings.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section  14  Includes  in  the  duties  of  the  Alaska                                                                    
     Commercial  Fisheries   entry  Commission   (CFEC)  the                                                                    
     authority  to approve  temporary  permit transfers  for                                                                    
     qualifying participants  of the  AMFRT program,  and to                                                                    
     adopt regulations to manage the program.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section  15 Specifies  that a  person  may not  operate                                                                    
     gear  in the  commercial  taking  of fishery  resources                                                                    
     unless that person is an AMFRT program participant.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Section 16 Specifies that a  crewmember may assist with                                                                    
     operation of gear for the  commercial taking of fishery                                                                    
     resources,  provided an  AMFRT  program participant  is                                                                    
     physically present  and also  engaged in  the operation                                                                    
     of that gear.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:43:08 PM                                                                                                                    
     Section 17  Provides for AMFRT program  participants to                                                                    
     operate gear within a specified fishery.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section 18  Requires AMFRT  program participants  to be                                                                    
     in  possession  of  their  permit  at  all  times  when                                                                    
     operating the gear for which the permit was issued.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Section  19 Prevents  the  permit  activated under  the                                                                    
     AMRFT  program  from being  used  as  an instrument  of                                                                    
     equity or financially  encumbered in any way,  or to be                                                                    
     transferred to  repossessed in any  way beyond  what is                                                                    
     allowed  within  the  program,  as  set  forth  by  the                                                                    
     program and related regulations.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section 20  Adds a new  subsection establishing  that a                                                                    
     temporary  permit holder  under the  AMRFT program  has                                                                    
     the same  use privilege and  rights in a fishery  as is                                                                    
     available  to an  individual  holding  a regular  entry                                                                    
     permit.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section 21 Provides CFEC  authority to establish annual                                                                    
     fees  for the  issuance and  renewal of  entry permits,                                                                    
     including  temporary  permits  issued under  the  AMFRT                                                                    
     program.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section  22 Establishes  that temporary  permits issued                                                                    
     under  the  AMFRT  program   may  only  be  transferred                                                                    
     through the CFEC as provided  by law and by regulations                                                                    
     established by the CFEC.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section 23 Disallows the  transfer of temporary permits                                                                    
     issued under  the AMFRT program except  as specifically                                                                    
     provided by law or regulation.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section   24   Provides  exceptions,   established   by                                                                    
     regulation,  for  the  transfer  of  temporary  permits                                                                    
     issued under  the AMFRT  program, to  include emergency                                                                    
     transfer of the  permit in the event of  such things as                                                                    
     medical  illness,   death,  military   or  governmental                                                                    
     duties,  or other  extenuating circumstances  resulting                                                                    
     in an  unavoidable hardship  and preclusion  from being                                                                    
     able to participate in the fishery.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Section 25 (Covered at the beginning of the analysis)                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section  26 As  regards the  existing point  system for                                                                    
     frequent violators  of the Entry Permit  salmon fishery                                                                    
     laws, this section includes  the AMFRT program permitee                                                                    
     in that point system of respective violations.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section  27  Extends the  requirement  of  the CFEC  to                                                                    
     provide  notice  of  violations and  point-docking  for                                                                    
     AMFRT  permit holders  committing violations  to salmon                                                                    
     fisheries   laws,  consistent   with  existing   notice                                                                    
     requirements  for standard  permit  holder making  same                                                                    
     violations.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section 28  Extends the assessment of  points against a                                                                    
     standard permit holder to also  include a permit holder                                                                    
     under the  AMFRT program that such  assessment shall be                                                                    
     in  addition  to  and  not  a  substitution  for  other                                                                    
     penalties that may be imposed by a court.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:46:03 PM                                                                                                                    
     Section 29 Adds a new  subsection to clarify the master                                                                    
     shall be given notice of  any points assessed against a                                                                    
     journeyman  participating   under  an   AMFRT  transfer                                                                    
     agreement.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section   30   Specifies   that  if   a   master's   or                                                                    
     journeyman's  salmon fishery  permit  is suspended  for                                                                    
     any  reason, the  CFEC shall  not issue  another permit                                                                    
     for  either   of  them  in  that   fishery  during  the                                                                    
     suspension period,  nor may they  engage in  any manner                                                                    
     of  commercial  salmon  fishing  activity  during  that                                                                    
     suspension time period.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section 31  Extends CFEC authority to  revoke the AMFRT                                                                    
     permit   in  the   event  that   false  or   misleading                                                                    
     information was used to obtain it.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section 32 Establishes an effective  date of January 1,                                                                    
     2019.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  VON  IMHOF  asked  what  happens  now  when  a  retiring                                                               
fisherman wants  to leave his  permit to a younger  fisherman, in                                                               
the absence of this program.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LAMKIN  said  first  that  this bill  is  missing  an  owner                                                               
financing  mechanism for  these  permits, and  that is  currently                                                               
being worked  on with the  Department of Commerce,  Community and                                                               
Economic   Development  (DCCED).   Currently,  when   a  retiring                                                               
fisherman  wants  out,  he  sells  his  permit  out-right  to  an                                                               
interested buyer.  There isn't  a shortage  of sellers  or buyers                                                               
right  now,  but  permits  can  cost  over  several  hundreds  of                                                               
thousands of dollars  and that may keep a  younger fisherman from                                                               
entering  the industry.  Rather than  them being  left out,  this                                                               
provides an opportunity for them to participate.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:48:54 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR VON  IMHOF asked  if this measure  is being  designed for                                                               
buying the limited entry permit but not the boat and gear.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. LAMKIN  replied yes,  and testimony  will indicate  that once                                                               
you get the permit, the rest  tends to fall in place much easier,                                                               
although that may be arguable.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  VON  IMHOF  asked  how  having  the  journeyman  on  the                                                               
master's vessel  interplays with  the permit  and is  three years                                                               
enough time for pay back. How does a bank loan play into that?                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. LAMKIN  replied that  those great  questions would  be ironed                                                               
out  eventually.  They want  to  associate  the permit  and  this                                                               
training transfer process with not  just the master fisherman and                                                               
the name on the permit, but also  the vessel and the gear and the                                                               
equipment associated with that permit  and fishery. Whether three                                                               
years  is realistic  is  a good  question and  more  time may  be                                                               
needed.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MEYER, referring  to sections  4 and  5, asked  what the                                                               
ratio  is   between  residents  and  nonresidents   having  these                                                               
permits. He wanted to incentivize Alaskans and not nonresidents.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. LAMKIN replied that he didn't know but could look it up.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. LAMKIN said  section 4 has to do with  being a crewmember not                                                               
being the permit  holder, adding that the whole  point of Limited                                                               
Entry is to  keep our fleets and the holders  of those permits at                                                               
least substantially in the hands of Alaskans.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:52:35 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL opened invited testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
BRUCE   SCHACTLER,  commercial   fisherman/representing  himself,                                                               
Kodiak,  Alaska, supported  SB  211. He  commented that  resident                                                               
participation  depends  on  the  area  and  the  fishery.  Kodiak                                                               
fisheries are more than 75 percent residents.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
He explained  that SB 211 is  designed to be a  training program.                                                               
Although he  has been fortunate  to have  the same crew  for many                                                               
years, many  crewmen don't know if  they want to be  a captain or                                                               
have what  it takes  to be  one. Are they  fish killers?  Do they                                                               
have what it takes to find fish  and catch them? Do they know how                                                               
to   handle  grumpy   crewmembers?   Can  they   deal  with   the                                                               
responsibility of running  a boat?  He said this  program was put                                                               
together by captains with their  crewmen. It's not intended for a                                                               
crewman to amortize the cost of  the permit over three years. The                                                               
idea of  three years  was after  doing this  for three  years the                                                               
journeyman will  have it figured  out. Either  he wants to  buy a                                                               
permit  and a  boat and  get into  it as  a Limited  Entry permit                                                               
holder, or not.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:57:26 PM                                                                                                                    
Another possible way to transfer  a permit is through the central                                                               
lien  registry  that CFEC  and  the  Division of  Investments  is                                                               
working  on. This  concept would  enable someone  to do  an owner                                                               
transfer and  if it didn't  work out, be  able to get  the permit                                                               
back.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. SCHACTLER said  SB 211 doesn't require  a complicated rewrite                                                               
of  Limited Entry;  it  just  amends one  section  that adds  the                                                               
program. The  other amendments are  conforming language.  It will                                                               
add no more  gear to the fishery and it  adds safety training for                                                               
everyone. In all his conversations  he hadn't found anyone not in                                                               
favor of this.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
He added that  another variable is on the table  now: the fishing                                                               
resource itself  is "iffy," the  loss of  codfish in the  Gulf of                                                               
Alaska, for example.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:00:17 PM                                                                                                                    
FATE PUTMAN, Commissioner,  Commercial Fisheries Entry Commission                                                               
(CFEC),  Alaska  Department of  Fish  and  Game (ADF&G),  Juneau,                                                               
Alaska,  supported SB  211. It  heads in  the right  direction in                                                               
establishing a  new temporary transfer  for this type  of permit.                                                               
He  had some  concerns  about  language on  page  11, lines  5-7,                                                               
saying  the commission  is responsible  for  certifying that  the                                                               
journeyman has  the safety training.  That and the  protection of                                                               
property   along   with   the  state's   fisheries   and   marine                                                               
conservation are  jobs better suited  to other agencies  like the                                                               
Department of  Environmental Conservation  (DEC), and  the Alaska                                                               
Department  of Fish  and Game  (ADF&G),  or the  Coast Guard  for                                                               
training. He hoped that could be changed.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Secondly, this measure would require  the CFEC to find a stopping                                                               
point in order to effectuate  the transfer, and some fisheries go                                                               
throughout the year with no stopping point.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR VON IMHOF  said she understood the  motivation behind the                                                               
transfer process but she is not  clear if money will change hands                                                               
for  a lease  towards ownership  for three  years. She  asked Mr.                                                               
Putman if he cares if money is transferred prior to that.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PUTMAN replied  the commission  is concerned  about leasing,                                                               
but  at  the same  time,  catch  profits are  normally  exchanged                                                               
between the  master and  journeyman and  that should  continue. A                                                               
provision  requires CFEC  to maintain  and  review the  contracts                                                               
between the master and journeyman.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:03:45 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL thanked him and opened public testimony on SB 211.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:03:49 PM                                                                                                                    
DAVID   HASHAGEN,   commercial  fisherman/representing   himself,                                                               
Ketchikan, Alaska,  supported SB 211. It  is a step in  the right                                                               
direction in addressing  "the graying of the  fleet." However, he                                                               
said a  provision is  needed allowing a  person with  a temporary                                                               
permit to obtain his own vessel. He  wants to keep his boat if he                                                               
were to  lease out his permit,  because after 54 years,  he has a                                                               
boat that  he can put  his pickup on and  travel up and  down the                                                               
coast from Patagonia  to the Bering Sea. And if  a person has two                                                               
sons and turns  the boat over to  one and the permit  over to the                                                               
other, they  would both have  to come  up with another  permit or                                                               
boat to make the business work.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
He  suggested inserting  "or by  discretion of  the commissioner"                                                               
into section  25, lines 16-17,  after "three  consecutive years",                                                               
as  was done  for Limited  Entry. That  language would  allow the                                                               
CFEC to make adjustments for  the differences in each fishery. He                                                               
said he has had  the same crew for many years  and if a temporary                                                               
permit holder  was added, he wouldn't  have a place to  sleep. He                                                               
is in the  gillnet fishery and there isn't a  whole lot to learn;                                                               
it's just a lot  of hard work, and that's what  the guys find out                                                               
right away. In addition, a journeyman  might want to gillnet in a                                                               
different area than where he fishes his boat.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The  owner  financing concept  is  an  excellent idea.  He  would                                                               
probably be  the first  one to participate  in that  if something                                                               
was  set up,  because  now  when you  turn  your  permit over  to                                                               
someone  and if  you  haven't got  your money,  he  can look  you                                                               
square in the eye and say:  "good luck," and doesn't have to give                                                               
the permit back.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HASHAGEN  noted that  the  Limited  Entry Program  has  been                                                               
upheld by the  Supreme Court three times:  you can't discriminate                                                               
against non-residents.  However, he  thought the  owner financing                                                               
provision would  encourage a master  to make a deal  with someone                                                               
he knows  who lives  in the state.  And the  three-year timeframe                                                               
would provide  the state  with a financial  track record  for the                                                               
fishery a person wants the state to finance the permit in.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
THERESA  PETERSON,   commercial  fisherman/representing  himself,                                                               
Kodiak,  Alaska, supported  the intent  of SB  211. However,  the                                                               
language needs to  be tightened to make sure it  meets the stated                                                               
intent,  because it  changes significantly  the integrity  of the                                                               
owner/operator  limited entry  system,  which  she thinks,  works                                                               
"really well."                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:13:12 PM                                                                                                                    
Language in section 25, line  16, saying that the transfer cannot                                                               
be initiated  during an open  fishing season needs more  work. It                                                               
would be important  to determine that this agreement  needs to be                                                               
reached prior to when a fishery  opens on a certain date but then                                                               
it closes and opens throughout the  course of the summer, at mid-                                                               
season, or goes year-round.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
The "period of  not more than three consecutive years  on line 17                                                               
is not an adequate timeframe  for someone to really understand if                                                               
they  want to  pursue  funding  to purchase  a  permit, and  this                                                               
arrangement should  be limited to  one-time. The  contract should                                                               
include what  the payments  are while  in the  transitional phase                                                               
(section 25  on page 10,  line 20). That would  be a good  way to                                                               
keep  track of  how  much money  is being  extracted  out of  the                                                               
fisheries.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MAC MEINERS,  representing himself/commercial  fisherman, Juneau,                                                               
Alaska, supported SB 211.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:17:21 PM                                                                                                                    
CHRIS BURNS,  commercial fisherman/representing  himself, Kodiak,                                                               
Alaska, supported SB  211. He said the Limited  Entry Program has                                                               
been  very successful.  The CFEC  has done  plenty of  studies on                                                               
emergency transfer  and fraud issues  and hasn't found  very much                                                               
of that going on over the last  three to five years. This is just                                                               
fixing an oversight in the limited entry system.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. BURNS  said this  is a  way to break  into management  in the                                                               
fisheries  like  the   International  Brotherhood  of  Electrical                                                               
Workers (IBEW).  Fishing is  a little  more complicated  than the                                                               
other  trades: the  owner  needs to  deal  with insurance,  crew,                                                               
weather, big runs/low runs, and global market fluctuations.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:21:26 PM                                                                                                                    
JOHN MOLLER,  commercial fisherman/representing  himself, Juneau,                                                               
Alaska, supported SB 211, agreeing  with many testifiers. He owns                                                               
three  permits and  his daughter  owns  one. They  fish in  three                                                               
different  fisheries  out of  Juneau.  He  said Alaska  has  some                                                               
outstanding  loan programs  for financing  permits and  boats and                                                               
this should not  turn into a leasing program.  The owner operator                                                               
is an essential part of the overall CFEC program.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:23:16 PM                                                                                                                    
JIM PETERSON, commercial  fisherman/representing himself, Kodiak,                                                               
Alaska, supported  SB 211. He wholeheartedly  supports this bill,                                                               
because like all  the rest of them he isn't  getting any younger.                                                               
One of the  biggest mountains a guy has to  climb is getting that                                                               
permit and making it easier for that individual is a good thing.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:24:53 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR   GIESSEL   said   they   could   submit   their   specific                                                               
recommendations  in writing  to  her office.  Finding no  further                                                               
testimony, she closed public testimony  and set SB 211 aside. She                                                               
invited the sponsor to comment.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEVENS, sponsor  of SB  211, Alaska  State Legislature,                                                               
Juneau,  Alaska,  said this  issue  was  brought forward  by  Mr.                                                               
Schactler who  like a lot  of older fishermen, realize  they want                                                               
to be  able to pass their  business on to somebody  else. Passing                                                               
it on  to the son is  the traditional way, but  some people don't                                                               
have a  child to  pass it  on to. Getting  young people  into the                                                               
industry is  a big problem; a  vessel and gear that  used to cost                                                               
$15,000 costs  $300,000, now is  more than most young  people can                                                               
accumulate. This  is not  a perfect solution,  but he  is looking                                                               
forward to making it as good as possible.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GIESSEL held SB 211 in committee.                                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SJR 13 - Version A.PDF SRES 3/12/2018 3:30:00 PM
SJR 13
SJR 13 - Fiscal Note - Version A - 3 - 5 - 18.pdf SRES 3/12/2018 3:30:00 PM
SJR 13
SJR 13 - Opposition - OVK - 3 - 7 - 18.pdf SRES 3/12/2018 3:30:00 PM
SJR 13
SJR13 - Supporting Document - ADFG Summary - 2017.pdf SRES 3/12/2018 3:30:00 PM
SJR 13
SJR13 - Supporting Document - Letter from Board of Fisheries to US Interior, Commerce Depts - 3 - 9 - 2018.pdf SRES 3/12/2018 3:30:00 PM
SJR 13
SJR13 - Supporting Document - Sea Otter Harvest Numbers - USFWS.pdf SRES 3/12/2018 3:30:00 PM
SJR 13
SJR13 - Supporting Document - Resolution Petersburg Borough.PDF SRES 3/12/2018 3:30:00 PM
SJR 13
SJR13 - Supporting Document - Fisheries Management Report - ADFG - 2016 - 2017.pdf SRES 3/12/2018 3:30:00 PM
SJR 13
CSSJR13 - Sponsor Statement - Version J.pdf SRES 3/12/2018 3:30:00 PM
SJR 13
CSSJR13 - Version J.pdf SRES 3/12/2018 3:30:00 PM
SJR 13
SJR13 - Supporting Document - Report to Board of Fisheries - 2017.pdf SRES 3/12/2018 3:30:00 PM
SJR 13
SJR13 - Supporting Document - Letter from United Fishermen of AK - 3 - 9 - 2018.pdf SRES 3/12/2018 3:30:00 PM
SJR 13
SJR13 - Opposition - Doroff - 3 - 9 - 2018.pdf SRES 3/12/2018 3:30:00 PM
SJR 13
SB211 - Fiscal Note - CFEC ADFG - 3 - 9 - 2018.pdf SRES 3/12/2018 3:30:00 PM
SB 211
SB211 - Supporting Document - Letter -Schactler.pdf SRES 3/12/2018 3:30:00 PM
SB 211
SB211 - Sponsor Statement.pdf SRES 3/12/2018 3:30:00 PM
SB 211
SB211 - Sponsor Sub - Bill Text - Version D.pdf SRES 3/12/2018 3:30:00 PM
SB 211
SB211- Sectional Analysis - Version D.pdf SRES 3/12/2018 3:30:00 PM
SB 211
SB211 - Supporting Document - Letter Julie Decker - 3 - 10 - 18.pdf SRES 3/12/2018 3:30:00 PM
SB 211
SJR13 - Supporting Document - Resolution City and Borough of Wrangell - 1 - 18 - 18.pdf SRES 3/12/2018 3:30:00 PM
SJR 13
SJR13 - Supporting Document - Letter City and Borough of Wrangell - 3 - 11 - 18.pdf SRES 3/12/2018 3:30:00 PM
SJR 13
SJR13 - Supporting Document - Letter AK FDF - 3 - 10 - 18.pdf SRES 3/12/2018 3:30:00 PM
SJR 13
SJR13 - Supporting Document - Letter - Carley Thayer - 3 - 12 - 18.pdf SRES 3/12/2018 3:30:00 PM
SJR 13
SJR13 - Supporting Document - Letter - Southeast Alaska Fishermen's Alliance - 3 - 12 - 18.pdf SRES 3/12/2018 3:30:00 PM
SJR 13
SJR13 - Supporting Document - Letter - Shellfish Preservation Alliance - 3 - 12 - 18.pdf SRES 3/12/2018 3:30:00 PM
SJR 13
SJR13 - Supporting Document - Letter - United Southeast Alaska Gillnetters - 3 - 12 - 18.pdf SRES 3/12/2018 3:30:00 PM
SJR 13
SJR13 - Presentation to Senate Resources - 3 - 12 - 18 .pdf SRES 3/12/2018 3:30:00 PM
SJR 13
SJR13 - Written Testimony - TASSC - 3 - 12 - 18.pdf SRES 3/12/2018 3:30:00 PM
SJR 13
SJR13 - Opposition - Resolution from TASSC - 3 - 12 - 18.pdf SRES 3/12/2018 3:30:00 PM
SJR 13