Legislature(2015 - 2016)BUTROVICH 205

04/06/2015 03:30 PM RESOURCES

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03:30:26 PM Start
03:30:40 PM Confirmation Hearing: Agdc Board of Directors
04:26:55 PM HB70
04:36:10 PM SB48
04:55:06 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Confirmation of Governor's Appointee: TELECONFERENCED
Alaska Gasline Development Corporation
Board of Directors, Richard Halford
-- Public Testimony on Appointee --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled: TELECONFERENCED
Moved SCS CSHB 70(RES) Out of Committee
Heard & Held
             SB  48-FORMER RESIDENT HUNTING LICENSE                                                                         
4:36:10 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL announced the consideration of SB 48.                                                                             
4:36:14 PM                                                                                                                    
RANDY RUARO, staff  to Senator Stedman, sponsor of  SB 48, Alaska                                                               
State Legislature,  Juneau, Alaska, explained that  it encourages                                                               
former Alaskans to  return to Alaska to hunt or  fish with family                                                               
members. The  qualifying former Alaskan  would be allowed  to pay                                                               
the reduced resident  rate for their hunting  or fishing license.                                                               
This former  Alaskan must  be U.S. citizen,  have been  an Alaska                                                               
resident  in the  past, have  held  a resident  license for  that                                                               
activity,  have paid  the fee  for the  resident license,  and be                                                               
sponsored by  an Alaskan  resident family  member whom  they will                                                               
hunt  or  fish with  when  they  return.    The number  of  these                                                               
licenses  is  capped  at  1,000. Fish  and  Game  officials  from                                                               
Montana, which  has a similar  program, said  it took a  while to                                                               
build up  in popularity,  so they  are not  anticipating reaching                                                               
the cap in the first year.                                                                                                      
SENATOR  STOLTZE  asked  if  this  makes  any  other  substantive                                                               
changes to non-resident requirements.                                                                                           
MR. RUARO  answered that  a provision in  the bill  exempts these                                                               
non-residents  from  being required  to  hunt  with a  registered                                                               
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  asked if this would  allow non-residents to                                                               
dip net.                                                                                                                        
MR.  RUARO  replied that  it  reduces  the  rate paid  for  their                                                               
licenses.  The  bill does  not  distinguish  by type  of  fishing                                                               
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked  if they would gain  other rights that                                                               
residents have, for instance, access to personal use fisheries.                                                                 
4:39:17 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO answered if a right  exists for a resident and a person                                                               
qualifies under this  bill for that resident  license, they would                                                               
have  the right  a resident  has now.  So, it  could expand  that                                                               
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  said that  he  wouldn't  support that.  He                                                               
asked if this would apply to king stamps.                                                                                       
MR. RUARO answered that he didn't  know if there was a difference                                                               
for non-residents and residents for  king stamps, but it would if                                                               
that individual qualified under the expanded term.                                                                              
CHAIR GIESSEL remarked that there is  no fee for personal use and                                                               
it automatically  goes with the  resident fishing license,  so it                                                               
would go with that as well for the non-resident.                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked on page 2,  line 3, how to define "may                                                               
not hunt  or fish unless  personally accompanied  by non-resident                                                               
MR. RUARO answered  that it is not a defined  term; the intent is                                                               
that the family  member that is the sponsor would  be on the same                                                               
trip in  the vicinity with  the family member that  has qualified                                                               
for  the reduced  fee license.  But  there is  no definition  for                                                               
physical presence proximity.                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked what  "exempt from AS 16.05.407(a)(1)"                                                               
on page 2, line 4, means.                                                                                                       
MR. RUARO  answered that  it goes  to Senator  Stoltze's previous                                                               
question   about  non-residents   being   required   to  have   a                                                               
professional guide.                                                                                                             
4:41:52 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  MICCICHE  said a  person  could  come  to Alaska  for  a                                                               
temporary project  for a year,  become a resident, and  then move                                                               
outside and just  happen to have a relative by  blood or marriage                                                               
and  forever have  resident  access to  the  state's hunting  and                                                               
fishing  resource at  the cost  of a  resident and  asked if  the                                                               
sponsor would consider a minimum time for being in the state.                                                                   
MR. RUARO answered they had  looked at various options and agreed                                                               
that the timeframe  for becoming a resident can  be fairly short.                                                               
They would continue to look for a good definition.                                                                              
SENATOR MICCICHE  said he agreed  with Senator  Wielechowski that                                                               
personal use is  for survival of Alaskans and  not necessarily to                                                               
load on  a plane and  take somewhere else.  He would like  to see                                                               
that amended.                                                                                                                   
SENATOR STOLTZE asked the justification  for determining the non-                                                               
resident had to previously hold a license.                                                                                      
MR. RUARO  replied that they were  trying to create some  ties to                                                               
actual participation in a fishery  or hunting activity along with                                                               
being a former resident.                                                                                                        
SENATOR STOLTZE said that two  months might be semi-palatable. He                                                               
remembered  needing to  be the  age of  16 to  get a  license and                                                               
therefore would not  be able to qualify if he  had left the state                                                               
before then.                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO couldn't recall an age requirement for licensure.                                                                     
4:45:39 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR COSTELLO  asked if creating  two classes of people  - the                                                               
first 1,000 and the second 1,000 - was fair.                                                                                    
MR. RUARO  replied that it creates  a first in the  door dynamic,                                                               
but it is  important to cap the licenses in  case they turned out                                                               
to be  overly popular in  drawing in  large numbers of  folks who                                                               
would be coming here anyway.                                                                                                    
SENATOR COSTELLO assumed that he  wouldn't want the state to lose                                                               
the revenue, which would be about a half million dollars.                                                                       
MR. RUARO  answered that it was  a revenue issue and  at the same                                                               
time they wanted  a program in place  for a few years  to see how                                                               
popular it was.                                                                                                                 
4:47:31 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR COSTELLO asked for the difference in license fees.                                                                      
MR. RUARO  answered that the  previous fiscal note  assumed 1,000                                                               
people that otherwise  would not have come to Alaska  and the new                                                               
fiscal  note was  revised downward  significantly to  reflect the                                                               
fact that  the program wasn't  expected to  max out in  the first                                                               
SENATOR COSTELLO  asked what  the license fees  are now  and what                                                               
they would be if this bill passes.                                                                                              
MR. RUARO said there are different  tag fees and he would have to                                                               
get that information for her.                                                                                                   
SENATOR  COSTELLO asked  what the  department  uses the  proceeds                                                               
from fishing and hunting licenses for.                                                                                          
MR.  RUARO answered  that  he didn't  know if  the  funds can  be                                                               
traced to exact functions in the department.                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  said there are often  lotteries for hunting                                                               
and asked  if this  potentially crowds  Alaskan residents  out of                                                               
those lotteries.                                                                                                                
MR. RUARO  answered that  they hadn't  thought about  the lottery                                                               
hunts in drafting  the bill. But as written  a non-resident could                                                               
apply  for and  receive  a  resident license  if  they met  these                                                               
requirements. They  hadn't taken it  the additional step  to sort                                                               
out whether that  would also give them standing to  apply for the                                                               
lottery hunts.                                                                                                                  
4:50:14 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL asked how many vendors sell licenses in Alaska.                                                                   
MR. RUARO answered in the thousands.                                                                                            
CHAIR GIESSEL asked if you can get a fishing license on line.                                                                   
MR. RUARO answered yes.                                                                                                         
CHAIR GIESSEL  said conceivably these  licenses could be  gone in                                                               
one hour.                                                                                                                       
MR.  RUARO responded  that  this  is an  exception  to getting  a                                                               
license on line. It will  require a paper affidavit swearing that                                                               
one meets the requirements.                                                                                                     
CHAIR GIESSEL  asked how  many fishing  licenses are  issued each                                                               
MR. RUARO answered several hundred thousand.                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL said  that could mean that 1,000  licenses could be                                                               
reached rather quickly.                                                                                                         
MR. RUARO agreed that was a possibility.                                                                                        
4:51:57 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  STOLTZE  mentioned  that  one of  the  more  contentious                                                               
issues for  the Board of Game's  last cycle was Dall  sheep hunts                                                               
and he  couldn't imagine telling  one of his constituents  why he                                                               
let  somebody's  cousin  jump  ahead of  them.  Had  the  sponsor                                                               
thought about the mess this would create?                                                                                       
MR. RUARO  replied that  was an important  issue and  they hadn't                                                               
chased down  every potential  hunt that  a non-resident  could be                                                               
allowed into, so several could  be of such importance to industry                                                               
and Alaskans  that the  bill might not  apply to  that particular                                                               
hunt. The  intent behind  the bill was  more general:  sport fish                                                               
for king salmon and deer hunting.                                                                                               
CHAIR GIESSEL opened public testimony and finding no testimony                                                                  
said she would keep it open and held SB 48 in committee.                                                                        

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Resume-Rick Halford.pdf SRES 4/6/2015 3:30:00 PM
CSHB 70 Version E.pdf SRES 4/6/2015 3:30:00 PM
HB 70
CSHB 70 Sponsor Statement.pdf SRES 4/6/2015 3:30:00 PM
HB 70
CSHB 70 Fiscal Note.pdf SRES 4/6/2015 3:30:00 PM
HB 70
CSHB 70 Creamer's Field Migratory Wildfowl Refuge Map.pdf SRES 4/6/2015 3:30:00 PM
HB 70
CSHB 70 Creamer's Field Interim Management Plan march 1993.pdf SRES 4/6/2015 3:30:00 PM
HB 70
CSHB 70 Letter of Support.pdf SRES 4/6/2015 3:30:00 PM
HB 70
SB48 Version H.PDF SRES 4/6/2015 3:30:00 PM
SB 48
SB48 Sponsor Statement.pdf SRES 4/6/2015 3:30:00 PM
SB 48
SB48 Sectional Analysis.pdf SRES 4/6/2015 3:30:00 PM
SB 48
SB48 Supporting Document-Chronicle Outdoors.pdf SRES 4/6/2015 3:30:00 PM
SB 48
CSHB70-Version P.pdf SRES 4/6/2015 3:30:00 PM
HB 70
HB70 Explanation of Changes-Version P.pdf SRES 4/6/2015 3:30:00 PM
HB 70
SB48 Fiscal Note-ADF&G Updated.pdf SRES 4/6/2015 3:30:00 PM
SB 48