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01/30/2026 01:30 PM Senate LABOR & COMMERCE

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-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
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-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
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           SB 121-HEALTH INSURANCE ALLOWABLE CHARGES                                                                        
             [CSSB 121(HSS) was before committee.]                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:38:58 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN   reconvened  the   meeting  and   announced  the                                                               
consideration of CS  FOR SENATE BILL NO. 121 "An  Act relating to                                                               
settlement  of health  insurance  claims;  relating to  allowable                                                               
charges for health  care services or supplies;  and providing for                                                               
an effective date."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:39:23 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  CATHY GIESSEL,  District  E,  Alaska State  Legislature,                                                               
Juneau,  Alaska,  sponsor  of  SB   121  stated  that  this  bill                                                               
addresses  health  care  access   and  affordability  by  setting                                                               
minimum  reimbursement rates  for  out-of-network clinicians.  It                                                               
builds on prior  efforts to ensure insurers pay  a defined amount                                                               
for services provided  by clinicians who are  not contracted with                                                               
them,   establishing  a   clearer   baseline   for  payment   and                                                               
negotiation. She  gave an example of  how SB 121 would  work with                                                               
two different clinics.  She said the bill aims to  set a standard                                                               
reimbursement  rate for  out-of-network  clinicians, providing  a                                                               
baseline for negotiations with insurers.  It includes a benchmark                                                               
based  on  the  75th  percentile   and  works  alongside  network                                                               
adequacy  requirements  to  ensure insurers  offer  a  sufficient                                                               
range  of in-network  providers.  Following interim  discussions,                                                               
these  elements   were  combined   into  the   current  committee                                                               
substitute before you.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:44:53 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN solicited a motion.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:44:54 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  GRAY-JACKSON moved  to  adopt  the committee  substitute                                                               
(CS)  for  SB  121,  work   order  34-LS0282\G,  as  the  working                                                               
document.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:45:04 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN objected for purposes of discussion.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:45:10 PM                                                                                                                    
JANE  CONWAY,   Staff,  Senator   Cathy  Giessel,   Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  Juneau, Alaska,  provided  the  summary of  changes                                                               
from  version I  to  version G  for SB  121  and paraphrased  the                                                               
following:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
 [Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                               
     New Section 1  - Version G amends AS 21.07  by adding a                                                                  
     new  section  AS  21.07.035: Minimum  provider  network                                                                  
     standards to the bill.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section  2    (formerly  Section  #1  in version  I)                                                                     
     Standards for settlement of health insurance claims                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     This  section  amends  AS  21.36.497  by  removing  the                                                                    
     verbiage  from  subsection(a)  pertaining to  the  75th                                                                    
     percentile as a standard  for reimbursement for out-of-                                                                    
     network  providers.    However,  subsection  (a)  still                                                                    
     contains the  language for the  450 percent of  the CMS                                                                    
     fee  schedule for  Medicare  as  the minimum  allowable                                                                    
     charge.  Subsections (b)  (c) and  (d) remain  the same                                                                    
     from I to G.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     New  Section 3  -  is  a repeal  of  AS 21.07.020(3)                                                                     
     language  that  is  no longer  needed  because  of  the                                                                    
     addition  of language  in  Section  1 covering  network                                                                    
     standards.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section 4  - is the same  transition language (formerly                                                                  
     Section 3 in version I)                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section  5  -  is  the   effective  date  of  the  bill                                                                  
     (formerly Section 4 in version I)                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:47:48 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  YUNDT  stated  that  health  insurance  is  complex  and                                                               
requires  careful  handling,  with   ongoing  efforts  needed  to                                                               
improve  it.  He  asked  for   how  this  proposal  will  benefit                                                               
consumers, help control costs, and maintain market stability.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:48:17 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  GIESSEL  replied  that  access  to  care  in  Alaska  is                                                               
declining  as  reimbursements  have dropped,  leading  to  clinic                                                               
closures and clinicians leaving the  state. SB 121 sets a minimum                                                               
reimbursement  rate  for  out-of-network  providers,  giving  in-                                                               
network  clinicians' leverage  to negotiate  fairer payments  and                                                               
remain  financially  viable.  The   bill  also  includes  network                                                               
adequacy requirements  to ensure patients have  multiple provider                                                               
options, improving  access while supporting a  stable health care                                                               
system.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:51:38 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN   [removed  his  objection];  found   no  further                                                               
objection and CSSB 121 was adopted as the working document.                                                                     
1:51:51 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN announced invited testimony on SB 121.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:52:04 PM                                                                                                                    
JEFF DAVIS, Owner, Weston Group Consulting, Wenatchee,                                                                          
Washington, testified by invitation on SB 121 and paraphrased                                                                   
the following:                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 [Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     I am quite familiar with  these issues with 40 years of                                                                    
     healthcare  and  health  insurance  experience  in  AK.                                                                    
     President  of PCBSAK  for 18  years.  During my  tenure                                                                    
     with Premera  had many discussions  with the  DOI about                                                                    
                            th                                                                                                  
     how to  improve the  80   percentile regulation  but we                                                                    
     never  suggested repeal  without  replacement as  there                                                                    
     were benefits  from the regulation.  I could  talk with                                                                    
     you for  an hour about  this but  have done my  best to                                                                    
     keep my remarks short, but  please ask questions if any                                                                    
     of this doesn't  make sense or if I  left out something                                                                    
     important to you.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     SB 121 is a consumer  protection bill that replaces the                                                                    
     protections that were  in place for 20  years under the                                                                    
                 th                                                                                                             
     repealed  80   percentile  regulation plus  proactively                                                                    
     prevents  access issues  when  narrow network  products                                                                    
     are eventually introduced.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Specifically, SB 121 does two things:                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
      1. Ensures Alaskans get the health insurance benefits                                                                     
      they paid for.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
      2. Helps protect access to physicians and other                                                                           
      providers in Alaska.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     How does this bill ensure  people get the benefits they                                                                    
     paid for?                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
      1. Insurers don't automatically pay based on a                                                                            
      provider's charges.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
      2. If there is no contract, someone decides if the                                                                        
      charge is reasonable.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
        a. Under the repealed regulation, a state defined                                                                       
        rule was in place for determining reasonable.                                                                           
        b. After repeal, the insurers decided what was                                                                          
        reasonable. Largest chose a standard which is about                                                                     
        half of what was in place under the regulation.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
      3.  In most  cases, this  means the  insurer now  pays                                                                    
      much less  than what it paid under  the regulation and                                                                    
      the  patient pays more! The  value of the  policy they                                                                    
      bought is decreased.  The consumer is not getting what                                                                    
      they paid for!                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
      4.  SB 121 reestablishes  a State determined  rule for                                                                    
      deciding  what a reasonable  charge is.  That protects                                                                    
      the consumer!                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:54:37 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. DAVIS continued with his testimony of SB 121:                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
 [Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     How does this bill protect access to providers? Three                                                                      
     ways                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
      1.First,   if  a  patient  chooses   a  non-contracted                                                                    
      provider,  the  insurance payment  would  be based  on                                                                    
      what  is reasonable  in  Alaska, not  some lower  cost                                                                    
      location                                                                                                                  
        a. This supports the patient's ability to choose the                                                                    
        doctor they think is best for them.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
      2.   Second,  this  bill  supports   fair  payment  to                                                                    
      providers by establishing  what is reasonable based on                                                                    
      charges  in Alaska  not an  arbitrary fee  schedule or                                                                    
      data from other states.  Why does that matter?                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
        a. Fair payment is needed to keep physicians and                                                                        
        other providers in Alaska!                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
           i.   Many  Alaska  providers  are   in  financial                                                                    
           trouble   and   in   danger  of   closing   their                                                                    
           practices.   Here are a few or  the reasons: (Dr.                                                                    
           Merkouris example)                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
              1. Insurance contract rates have been flat or                                                                     
              gone down over the last few years                                                                                 
             2. Medicare rates are down 33 percent.                                                                             
              3. Medicaid rates in Alaska are now equal to                                                                      
              Medicare                                                                                                          
              4. Medicare and Medicaid patients now make up                                                                     
             a larger proportion of the population                                                                              
              5. In the face of declining or flat revenue                                                                       
              sources, the cost of support staff is up 47                                                                       
              percent in last 10 years                                                                                          
              6. Result - take home pay for physicians                                                                          
              amongst lowest in the nation and their                                                                            
              practices are struggling, and                                                                                     
              7. Practices are unable to recruit to replace                                                                     
              providers who retire or leave                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
        b. This bill promotes also fair  payment by bringing                                                                    
        more balance to contract negotiations                                                                                   
           i. Before repeal, insurers would already not                                                                         
        agree to contract increases   they knew they had the                                                                    
        upper hand                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:56:47 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. DAVIS continued with his testimony of SB 121:                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
 [Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
           ii. After repeal, with increased power, insurers                                                                     
      immediately began demanding steep decreases  as much                                                                      
     as 28 percent!                                                                                                             
           iii. In other words, repeal without replacement                                                                      
       weakened providers negotiating power and they were                                                                       
     already the underdogs                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
      3. Third, this bill proactively sets minimum network                                                                      
     standards before narrow networks come to Alaska                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
        a. A  narrow network  product is  one that  provides                                                                    
        little or no payment for non-network providers                                                                          
        b. Narrow networks are  not in Alaska today  but are                                                                    
        widely used in the Lower 48 and  some include as few                                                                    
        as 16 percent of the providers in the area.                                                                             
        c.  This  means   patient  choice  and   access  are                                                                    
        significantly limited.                                                                                                  
        d.  Insurers  use  narrow  networks  to  drive  down                                                                    
        contract rates  by pitting  provider groups  against                                                                    
        each other  in a  bidding war  which would  make the                                                                    
        current crisis worse.                                                                                                   
        e. The NAIC has stated network  minimums are amongst                                                                    
        the most important thing a State  can do to preserve                                                                    
        well-functioning  healthcare  and  health  insurance                                                                    
        markets.  38 states have adopted some form.                                                                             
        f. The minimum standards proposed in  SB 121 reflect                                                                    
        the unique geography and distribution  of people and                                                                    
        providers in Alaska and the already fragile state of                                                                    
        the provider community.                                                                                                 
        g.  All   of  Alaska   is  a   federally  designated                                                                    
        healthcare  professional  shortage  area.    Without                                                                    
        minimum standards,  narrow networks  would make  the                                                                    
        situation worse.                                                                                                        
        h. Action  is  needed  now  as  at least  one  major                                                                    
        insurer has  stated  their  desire to  bring  narrow                                                                    
        network products to AK.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
       In Summary, SB 121 is needed to protect consumer's                                                                       
     pocketbooks and access to needed healthcare.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:59:48 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR stated that this is  now a combined bill and asked                                                               
if  Mr. Davis  could  explain  how the  rules  on narrow  network                                                               
enforcement would work.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:00:14 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  DAVIS  replied that  enforcement  would  be handled  by  the                                                               
Division of Insurance. Carriers  must demonstrate compliance with                                                               
network  standards  when  filing  their plans.  If  the  carriers                                                               
cannot  meet  the  requirements,  SB  121  allows  for  a  phased                                                               
implementation  period   and  permits   the  director   to  grant                                                               
temporary exceptions when justified.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:01:01 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR  asked if insurers  must obtain approval  from the                                                               
Division of Insurance before bringing a product to market.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:01:31 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. DAVIS replied that it is  correct and said insurers must file                                                               
their  products and  obtain  approval  before offering  regulated                                                               
insurance plans in Alaska.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DUNBAR  asked what similar  efforts have worked  in other                                                               
states  and  is this  enforcement  approach  consistent with  the                                                               
other states.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  DAVIS replied  that the  enforcement mechanisms  are largely                                                               
consistent  with   the  model   legislation  from   the  National                                                               
Association of  Insurance Commissioners. He  said most of  the 30                                                               
states  and territories  with these  standards follow  that model                                                               
closely,  though  definitions  of minimum  requirements  vary  by                                                               
state based on factors like population density.                                                                                 
2:02:55 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN   asked  if  providers   are  guaranteed   a  set                                                               
reimbursement rate  out of  network, then  what incentive  do the                                                               
providers have to join insurance networks and sign contracts.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:03:38 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  DAVIS   replied  that  there  are   several  incentives  for                                                               
providers to  remain in-network.  Insurers typically  reimburse a                                                               
higher percentage  of costs for  in-network providers,  making it                                                               
easier to  collect payments from  insurers rather  than patients.                                                               
He said being  in-network also helps retain  patients, as out-of-                                                               
network  care   is  more  expensive  and   burdensome  for  them.                                                               
Additionally,  in-network providers  benefit from  better support                                                               
from insurers  and visibility  in provider  directories. Overall,                                                               
most  providers still  prefer to  stay  in-network and  negotiate                                                               
reasonable rates rather than operate outside the network.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:07:37 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN  said over  the life span  of the  80th percentile                                                               
rule there  was a time when  there was an overwhelming  number of                                                               
out-of-network providers.  He asked what action  caused providers                                                               
to change from out-of-network to in-network.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. DAVIS  stated his belief  that between 2004 and  2014, Alaska                                                               
saw a significant increase in  providers, largely due to the 80th                                                               
percentile  rule, which  stabilized reimbursements  and made  the                                                               
market  more  financially predictable.  He  said  this led  to  a                                                               
roughly  40  percent rise  in  physician  offices and  encouraged                                                               
providers to  join networks, especially  as competition  grew and                                                               
studies highlighted higher compensation levels in the state.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:11:12 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN asked  is there  anything that  would prevent  an                                                               
out-of-network provider from charging  more than the proposed 450                                                               
percent benchmark of Medicare.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  DAVIS replied  no, out-of-network  providers can  charge any                                                               
amount,  but insurer  payments are  capped by  the set  standard,                                                               
leaving patients  potentially balance billed for  the difference.                                                               
This  practice is  unpopular.  In  contrast in-network  providers                                                               
must  accept contracted  rates as  full payment  with no  balance                                                               
billing.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:13:58 PM                                                                                                                    
CAROLYN RHENE  MERKOURIS, MD,  Denali OB-GYN,  Anchorage, Alaska,                                                               
testified by invitation on SB 121 and read the following:                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
 [Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                               
     Thank you for the opportunity to speak today.                                                                              
     I'm here  as a  physician who  practiced in  Alaska for                                                                    
     many years  and who loved  caring for patients  here. I                                                                    
     want to share how the  loss of Alaska's 80th percentile                                                                    
     rule affected  me    not in theory,  but in  real life.                                                                    
     When that  rule stopped being enforced,  the impact was                                                                    
     immediate.  In  the  fall  of  2024,  my  reimbursement                                                                    
     dropped  significantly,  even  though I  saw  the  same                                                                    
     number  of patients  and providing  the  same level  of                                                                    
     care.                                                                                                                      
     Alaska  is   an  expensive  place  to   run  a  medical                                                                    
     practice.  After  paying rent,  malpractice  insurance,                                                                    
     supplies,  and  my  employees      people  who  support                                                                    
     families and communities   I  found myself losing money                                                                    
     simply  by staying  open. About  every three  months, I                                                                    
     was having to  put my own money into  the practice just                                                                    
     to keep it going.                                                                                                          
     At  the same  time,  the demand  for  care didn't  slow                                                                    
     down.  In  OB-GYN, patients  don't  get  put on  pause.                                                                    
     Pregnancies,   emergencies,   and  complications   keep                                                                    
     coming, and they require  time, attention, and constant                                                                    
     availability.                                                                                                              
     The financial  strain, combined with the  emotional and                                                                    
     physical demands of  patient care, became overwhelming.                                                                    
     Not  because  I  didn't  want to  keep  working     but                                                                    
     because the system no longer  made it possible to do so                                                                    
     sustainably.                                                                                                               
     Eventually,  I made  the difficult  decision to  retire                                                                    
     earlier than I ever  planned. That decision wasn't just                                                                    
     hard for me    it meant fewer options  for patients who                                                                    
     were already struggling to find care.                                                                                      
     Today, I  still practice medicine,  but I do it  out of                                                                    
     state as  a locum physician.  Alaska lost a  doctor not                                                                    
     because  the need  disappeared,  but  because the  math                                                                    
     stopped working.                                                                                                           
     When  we  talk   about  reimbursement  policies,  we're                                                                    
     really  talking about  access  to  care, about  whether                                                                    
     physicians can stay, and  about whether communities can                                                                    
     depend on having doctors when they need them.                                                                              
     I hope my story helps put  a human face on this issue                                                                      
     because  these decisions  affect real  people, on  both                                                                    
     sides of the exam room.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:17:08 PM                                                                                                                    
TERESA LYONS, President, Advanced Practice Registered Nurse                                                                     
Alliance (APRN), Anchorage, Alaska, testified by invitation on                                                                  
SB 121. She provided the following testimony:                                                                                   
 [Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     My name is  Teresa Lyons and I am  an Advanced Practice                                                                    
     Registered  Nurse  (APRN).  I  am  here  today  as  the                                                                    
     President   of   the    APRN   Alliance   an   umbrella                                                                    
     organization  made up  of the  four specialty  areas of                                                                    
     advanced  practice  nursing.  Our  Alliance  represents                                                                    
     over 2600 Advanced  Practice Registered Nurses (APRN's)                                                                    
     in  the State  of Alaska.  Of this  number, a  majority                                                                    
     (approximately 2400)  are Certified  Nurse Practitioner                                                                    
     (CNP's)  who are  practicing in  primary care  settings                                                                    
     oftentimes   in  rural   and  frontier   locations  and                                                                    
     ensuring  access  to  wellness  care,  chronic  disease                                                                    
     prevention and  management and urgent care.  APRN's are                                                                    
     members  of   the  health  care  delivery   system  and                                                                    
     practice   autonomously  in   areas   such  as   family                                                                    
     practice,  behavioral  health,   women's  health  care,                                                                    
     obstetrics, pediatrics,  internal medicine, geriatrics,                                                                    
     cardiology,  and   oncology.  CNPs  are   qualified  to                                                                    
     diagnose  and  treat   patients  with  undifferentiated                                                                    
     symptoms as  well as those with  established diagnoses.                                                                    
     In addition,  there are  over 150  Certified Registered                                                                    
     Nurse Anesthesiologists who  deliver anesthesia care in                                                                    
     all rural hospitals in the  state and in many instances                                                                    
     are the  only health  care providers doing  so ensuring                                                                    
     access  to care  in  these  critical access  hospitals.                                                                    
     Over  100 certified  nurse midwives  provide access  to                                                                    
     prenatal,  obstetrical, postpartum  and women's  health                                                                    
     care  in  urban  and  rural areas  of  our  state.  Our                                                                    
     Clinical Nurse  Specialists (CNS) are  approximately 50                                                                    
     in   strength   and   serve  in   our   hospitals   and                                                                    
     rehabilitation units throughout the State.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Recission of the 80 percent  rule has had a significant                                                                    
     impact on  small practice owners  like me. I  started a                                                                    
     private mental  health practice  in 2012  in Fairbanks,                                                                    
     expanded to Kenai  in 2021 and to Anchorage  in 2024. I                                                                    
     employ  14  employees     6  of  which  are  APRNs  all                                                                    
     nationally  board  certified  in  psych/mental  health.                                                                    
     Between the three  practice sites in Alaska,  we see an                                                                    
     average of 200  patients a week and  over 10,000 client                                                                    
     visits a year.  We serve people as young as  3 years of                                                                    
     age and currently  our eldest is 98 years old.   We are                                                                    
     Medicaid,  Medicare  providers.  Accepting  most  major                                                                    
     health insurances including commercial carriers.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:19:22 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. LYONS continued with her testimony of SB 121:                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Like many of my colleagues,  the practice has been both                                                                    
     in  and   out  of   network  finding   both  situations                                                                    
     financially    unstable.   When    in   network,    the                                                                    
     reimbursements  are dictated  as opposed  to negotiated                                                                    
     and  are frequently  changed throughout  the year  with                                                                    
     minimal notification. Our  reimbursement experience has                                                                    
     been as low as 160  percent-185 percent of Medicare, in                                                                    
     network.  This level  of reimbursement  does not  allow                                                                    
     for the  sustainability of  a business.   Being  out of                                                                    
     network  offers   no  better  options  with   no  floor                                                                    
     established  for reimbursement.  Many of  my colleagues                                                                    
     in  private practice  have experienced  the same.  This                                                                    
     results in  practices closing and decreasing  access to                                                                    
     care for patients.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     This  bill   provides  for  a  comprehensive   menu  of                                                                    
     providers to ensure greater access  including APRNs.  A                                                                    
     statistically   credible    methodology   for   setting                                                                    
     allowable   charges  when   out   of  network.   Assure                                                                    
     uniformity   and   equity   in   the   application   of                                                                    
     reimbursement  rates applied  for health  care services                                                                    
     when   billed  under   the   same  Current   Procedural                                                                    
     Terminology  code  by  health care  providers  who  are                                                                    
     practicing  under  the  scope   of  their  license  and                                                                    
     authorization  by their  respective professional  state                                                                    
     board.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     We thank you  again for hearing this bill  and the APRN                                                                    
     Alliance stands in  full support to pass  this bill out                                                                    
     of your committee.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:22:27 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN asked her to  clarify if reimbursements were about                                                               
165 percent of Medicare before  the repeal of the 80th percentile                                                               
rule.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. LYONS replied  yes, while in-network. She  chose contracts to                                                               
help her clients.  She found there was little  room to negotiate,                                                               
and reimbursements  were reduced over time.  The bigger challenge                                                               
is  not  a  lack  of  patients,  but  difficulty  attracting  and                                                               
retaining clinicians in Alaska.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:24:03 PM                                                                                                                    
KARL  BAURICK,  MD,  FACOG Interior  Women's  Health,  Fairbanks,                                                               
Alaska,  testified by  invitation on  SB  121. He  referred to  a                                                               
slide with a  bar graph showing reimbursement,  which he provided                                                               
for  the  committee.  He  said   the  clinic  relies  heavily  on                                                               
obstetric  services  to operate.  Since  the  repeal of  the  80-                                                               
percentile  rule, reimbursements  have  dropped significantly  by                                                               
about  20 percent  for  hospital-based care  and  15 percent  for                                                               
clinic procedures,  while costs  and staff  wages have  risen. He                                                               
said  additional cuts  to mid-level  provider reimbursements  and                                                               
payments  below  cost for  some  supplies  have further  strained                                                               
finances. SB  121 would  not fully  restore prior  conditions but                                                               
would help  improve negotiations  and sustainability,  as current                                                               
reimbursement levels are not viable for maintaining care.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:28:57 PM                                                                                                                    
DEBBIE  RYAN,   Chief  Executive  Officer,   Alaska  Chiropractic                                                               
Society,  Anchorage, Alaska,  testified by  invitation on  SB 121                                                               
and read the following:                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
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     I am  a co-owner of  a chiropractic clinic with  a 70+-                                                                    
     year legacy  of serving  Alaskans. For  transparency, I                                                                    
     also  serve  as  the  CEO of  the  Alaska  Chiropractic                                                                    
     Society,    representing     chiropractic    physicians                                                                    
     statewide  and working  to  protect  patient access  to                                                                    
     conservative care.                                                                                                         
     In that role,  I hear far too often  from providers who                                                                    
     are retiring early, leaving Alaska,  or unable to repay                                                                    
     student loans  (which can  be as  much at  $250,000) or                                                                    
     support their families because  they simply cannot make                                                                    
     a living practicing health care  in this state anymore.                                                                    
     Nor are we attracting  new younger providers to Alaska.                                                                    
     Today, I am  here to speak about  how insurance affects                                                                    
     health care, not only for  providers, but for patients.                                                                    
     When you  look at the  full picture, both sides  of the                                                                    
     health-care equation are under serious strain.                                                                             
     Let me  share a few  real-world facts directly  from my                                                                    
     office.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. RYAN continued with her testimony of SB 121:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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     First,  deductibles  are  extremely high.  The  highest                                                                    
     deductible I have  seen is $6,350, with  coverage at 80                                                                    
     percent  only   after  that  deductible  is   met.  For                                                                    
     conservative  care  like  chiropractic  services,  this                                                                    
     often  means patients  pay 100  percent out  of pocket,                                                                    
     despite  paying   significant  monthly   premiums.  For                                                                    
     patients with a straight  co-pay, some of these co-pays                                                                    
     are $85 and the insurer pays nothing.                                                                                      
     Second,  Alaska  has  a dominant  health  insurer  that                                                                    
     functions  as  a monopoly.  Over  ten  years ago,  that                                                                    
     insurer implemented major  fee schedule reductions-some                                                                    
     services were  reduced by as  much as  60 percent-while                                                                    
     premiums  have  remained  strong. Providers  today  are                                                                    
     being paid less than they were 20 years ago.                                                                               
     When  I reviewed  my 2025  billings, that  insurer paid                                                                    
     only 36 percent  of all claims submitted  by my office.                                                                    
     Patients paid  35 percent of  the charges,  in addition                                                                    
     to  their  premiums.  As  an  in-network  provider,  my                                                                    
     office  was required  to write  off 29  percent of  all                                                                    
     charges  submitted, nearly  one-third  of  the care  we                                                                    
     provided, because of contractual obligations.                                                                              
     Let me  be clear:  our services  are not  expensive and                                                                    
     not excessive.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     You may  ask why  we remain in  network. The  answer is                                                                    
     simple:  many  insurance  plans in  Alaska  provide  no                                                                    
     coverage  at all  if a  patient sees  an out-of-network                                                                    
     provider. Providers  are effectively forced to  stay in                                                                    
     network just to serve their patients.                                                                                      
     Let me give you one  concrete example of what "insured"                                                                    
     care looks like today.                                                                                                     
     For a  common chiropractic service CPT  code 98940, our                                                                    
     office  charges  $78.   The  insurance  company  allows                                                                    
     $45.10.  We  are  required   to  write  off$32.90.  The                                                                    
     patient  pays a  $35 copay,  and the  insurance company                                                                    
     pays $10.10.                                                                                                               
     The patient paid  most of the cost,  plus their monthly                                                                    
     premiums. From  my perspective, that is  not meaningful                                                                    
     insurance coverage.                                                                                                        
     Years  ago,  the  State  recognized  these  issues  and                                                                    
     implemented   percentage-based   safeguards  for   out-                                                                    
     of-network    reimbursement.   That    system   allowed                                                                    
     providers  to assess  whether  staying  in network  was                                                                    
     sustainable  or  whether  they  needed  to  go  out  of                                                                    
     network to survive.                                                                                                        
     When  that  safeguard   was  removed,  control  shifted                                                                    
     entirely  back to  the  insurer.  Reimbursement is  now                                                                    
     dictated solely by internal                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:33:34 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. RYAN continued with her testimony of SB 121:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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     fee  schedules and  payment  policies.  The result  has                                                                    
     been  predictable:  providers retiring  early,  closing                                                                    
     practices, or leaving Alaska.                                                                                              
     Health care  is a  business, like any  other. Providers                                                                    
     face  rising costs  for labor,  rent, supplies,  taxes,                                                                    
     and  compliance.  Small  practices  must  compete  with                                                                    
     hospitals and large systems for  the same workforce. We                                                                    
     often  train   staff  only  to  lose   them  to  larger                                                                    
     organizations   that  can   offer   better  wages   and                                                                    
     benefits. Because the cost of  doing business has grown                                                                    
     and   reimbursements  have   diminished,  I   currently                                                                    
     operate with half the support staff I once had.                                                                            
     This is why SB 121 matters.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     If SB 121 passes, it will:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     -  Protect  patient  choice by  making  Alaska  a  more                                                                    
     viable place for health-care  providers to practice and                                                                    
     remain.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     -  Allow providers  to  make  informed decisions  about                                                                    
     whether being  in network  with strict  fee limitations                                                                    
     or   operating   out   of  network   with   predictable                                                                    
     reimbursement which is sustainable; and                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     -  Use   Medicare  as  a   benchmark,  adjusted   by  a                                                                    
     reasonable percentage, which is  a fair and transparent                                                                    
     reference since Medicare evaluates costs annually.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Members of the  Committee, SB 121 addresses  a real and                                                                    
     urgent problem  in Alaska's  healthcare system.  I urge                                                                    
     you  to   ensure  the  final  policy   is  data-driven,                                                                    
     reasonable,   and  sustainable,   so  we   can  protect                                                                    
     patients,  retain  providers,  and preserve  access  to                                                                    
     care.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:38:08 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN  asked how chiropractic physicians  operated prior                                                               
to the widespread use of insurance.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:39:07 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. RYAN  replied that chiropractic  services are  widely covered                                                               
by most insurers but are  limited under Medicare and Medicaid due                                                               
to federal restrictions. Medicaid  coverage is especially narrow,                                                               
leaving  many patients  without access  and forcing  referrals to                                                               
more  expensive care  like  emergency  rooms. Expanding  coverage                                                               
could  improve  access,  reduce  costs,  and  support  effective,                                                               
conservative treatment options in Alaska.                                                                                       
2:42:48 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GIESSEL  said health insurance premiums  have risen while                                                               
clinician  reimbursements  have   sharply  declined,  creating  a                                                               
crisis in Alaska's  health care system. SB 121  aims to establish                                                               
a  minimum  reimbursement  rate to  give  providers  leverage  in                                                               
negotiations, help  retain clinicians,  and support  primary care                                                               
access. While  450 percent of  Medicare is proposed, she  is open                                                               
to  adjusting the  rate, emphasizing  the need  to stabilize  the                                                               
system and reduce reliance on temporary providers.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:46:02 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  YUNDT  asked  for  Senator Giessel  to  come  back  with                                                               
numbers  from  the last  four  or  five  years that  show  health                                                               
insurance costs in Alaska.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:46:54 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GIESSEL replied that she would.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:47:03 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN stated  that rising health care  costs are evident                                                               
in  both insured  and  self-insured  markets, indicating  broader                                                               
systemic  issues  beyond  insurers  alone.  Contributing  factors                                                               
include  past reimbursement  policies, the  growing influence  of                                                               
pharmacy benefit  managers, and  low Medicare and  Medicaid rates                                                               
that shift  costs into premiums.  He said with  potential federal                                                               
cuts ahead,  the outlook  for costs,  and access  is increasingly                                                               
concerning.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
 [CHAIR BJORKMAN held SB 121 in committee.]                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB121 Draft Proposed CS ver G.pdf SL&C 1/30/2026 1:30:00 PM
SB 121
SB121 Summary of Changes (ver. I to ver. G) 01.28.26.pdf SL&C 1/30/2026 1:30:00 PM
SB 121
SB121 Fiscal Note DOA-HPA 01.23.26.pdf SL&C 1/30/2026 1:30:00 PM
SB 121
SB121 Fiscal Note DCCED-DOI 01.23.26.pdf SL&C 1/30/2026 1:30:00 PM
SB 121
SB121 Public Testimony-Opposition Letter-Aetna 03.20.25.pdf SL&C 1/30/2026 1:30:00 PM
SB 121
HB78 Public Testimony-Email-Karin Halpin 01.28.26.pdf SL&C 1/30/2026 1:30:00 PM
HB 78
HB78 Public Testimony-Email-Sara Erickson 01.27.26.pdf SL&C 1/30/2026 1:30:00 PM
HB 78
HB78 Public Testimony-Email-Morris White 01.28.26.pdf SL&C 1/30/2026 1:30:00 PM
HB 78
HB78 Public Testimony-Email-Karen Williams 01.27.26.pdf SL&C 1/30/2026 1:30:00 PM
HB 78
HB78 Public Testimony-Email-Bruce Campbell 01.26.26.pdf SL&C 1/30/2026 1:30:00 PM
HB 78
SB121(HSS) vsn I.pdf SL&C 5/14/2025 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 1/30/2026 1:30:00 PM
SB 121
HB78 Fiscal Note-DOA-DRB 01.27.26.pdf SL&C 1/30/2026 1:30:00 PM
HB 78
HB78 Public Testimony-Email-Irene Quednow 01.28.26.pdf SL&C 1/30/2026 1:30:00 PM
HB 78
HB78 Public Testimony-Email-Kelly McBride 01.29.26.pdf SL&C 1/30/2026 1:30:00 PM
HB 78
HB78 Public Testimony-Email-John Hargis 01.28.26.pdf SL&C 1/30/2026 1:30:00 PM
HB 78
HB78 Public Testimony-Email-Tanya Roust 01.28.26.pdf SL&C 1/30/2026 1:30:00 PM
HB 78
SB163 ver. N.pdf SL&C 1/30/2026 1:30:00 PM
SB 163
SB163 Sponsor Statement ver. N.pdf SL&C 1/30/2026 1:30:00 PM
SB 163
SB163 Sectional Analysis ver. N.pdf SL&C 1/30/2026 1:30:00 PM
SB 163
SB163 Fiscal Note-DOA-FIN 01.27.26.pdf SL&C 1/30/2026 1:30:00 PM
SB 163
SB163 Supporting Documents Inactive State Funds Report by LFD 1.21.25.pdf SL&C 1/30/2026 1:30:00 PM
SB 163
SB121 Invited Testimony Slides-Dr. Baurick 01.30.26.pdf SL&C 1/30/2026 1:30:00 PM
SB 121