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03/15/2023 01:30 PM Senate LABOR & COMMERCE

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01:36:39 PM Start
01:37:25 PM SB88
03:08:42 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
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*+ SB 88 RETIREMENT SYSTEMS; DEFINED BENEFIT OPT. TELECONFERENCED
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-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
        SB  88-RETIREMENT SYSTEMS; DEFINED BENEFIT OPT.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:37:25 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN announced the consideration  of SENATE BILL NO. 88                                                               
"An Act  relating to the  Public Employees' Retirement  System of                                                               
Alaska  and the  teachers' retirement  system; providing  certain                                                               
employees an  opportunity to choose  between the  defined benefit                                                               
and  defined   contribution  plans   of  the   Public  Employees'                                                               
Retirement System of Alaska and  the teachers' retirement system;                                                               
and providing for an effective date."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BJORKMAN noted  that this  was the  second hearing,  and                                                               
expressed  his  intention  to complete  the  sectional  analysis,                                                               
review  a Summary  Table, and  hear invited  testimony. He  asked                                                               
Senator  Giessel  to  put  herself   on  the  record  and  resume                                                               
explaining the bill.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:37:45 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BISHOP joined the meeting.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:38:01 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  CATHY GIESSEL,  District  E,  Alaska State  Legislature,                                                               
Juneau, Alaska, sponsor of SB  88, clarified the following points                                                               
the committee discussed on March 13 concerning:                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1. a document in the  backup material pertaining to the actuarial                                                               
   implications of  [Senate] Bill 55,  [Ch. 9, SLA  21], prepared                                                               
   by William  Fornia, President, Pension Trustee  Advisors. This                                                               
   document describes actuarial  assessment elements incorporated                                                               
   into SB  88. She reiterated  that Senate Bill 55  parallels SB
   88 very closely.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2.  the PowerPoint  presentation  "Pension  and Healthcare  Trust                                                               
   Combined Valuation." Slide  18 calculates the "actuarial value                                                               
   of assets  (AVA)" funding ratio if the  pension and healthcare                                                               
   funds   were  combined.  She   said  the  two   funds  sparked                                                               
   conversations  about whether  statutes would  allow that.  She                                                               
   said more  information would  be forthcoming as  tax attorneys                                                               
   and others review the subject.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:40:40 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN invited Ms. O'Connor  to put herself on the record                                                               
and resume  the sectional analysis  she began to review  on March                                                               
13.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:40:57 PM                                                                                                                    
JULIA  O'CONNOR,  Staff,  Senator  Cathy  Giessel,  Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  Juneau,  Alaska,   resumed  reading  the  sectional                                                               
analysis from  where she had  left off  on March 13,  Section 55.                                                               
The  sectional analysis  link  is available  on  BASIS under  the                                                               
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:51:18 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN invited Ms. Kawasaki  to put herself on the record                                                               
and review the Summary Table on SB 88.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:51:33 PM                                                                                                                    
SONJA KAWASAKI, Senate Counsel to  the Majority Coalition, Alaska                                                               
State Legislature,  Juneau, Alaska, presented a  Summary Table of                                                               
policy decisions  for SB  88 dated  March 3,  2023. She  said the                                                               
Summary Table is a helpful tool  that breaks down subjects in the                                                               
bill  and references  bill proposals  by section  and page.  [The                                                               
revised March 10, 2023 Summary  Table is available on BASIS under                                                               
the bill.]                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. KAWASAKI  explained the structure  of the bill. She  said the                                                               
Public   Employees   Retirement   System  (PERS)   and   Teachers                                                               
Retirement  System (TRS)  statutes  are  separate. TRS  statutory                                                               
changes are in Sections 1 - 47 start  on page 1 of the bill. PERS                                                               
statutory changes are  in Sections 62 - 69 and  begin on page 35.                                                               
The bill includes changes to  the administration of TRS and PERS,                                                               
found between  the TRS  and PERS statute  changes in  Sections 48                                                               
and 49. These cover the  Alaska Retirement Management (ARM) Board                                                               
duties for  the new  plan. She said  changes to  medical coverage                                                               
statutes affecting  TRS and PERS are  in Sections 50 -  61, pages                                                               
30 - 35.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. KAWASAKI  described the  categories in  the Summary  Table as                                                               
follows:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
- Benefit Category                                                                                                              
  Lists the categories considered by stakeholders and Senator                                                                   
  Giessel.                                                                                                                      
- Proposed New PERS-PS (Public Safety)                                                                                          
  Proposed DB plan for PERS police and firefighter employees.                                                                   
-  Proposed New  PERS  Non-Public Safety  Public Employees  (PERS                                                               
   Non-PS)                                                                                                                      
- Proposed New Teachers Retirement System (TRS)                                                                                 
- Rationale for Policy Choice                                                                                                   
- Bill Section and Page WD [Work Order Number]: 33-LS0505\B                                                                     
 Lists the references for benefits covered in the legislation.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:53:52 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  KAWASAKI  reviewed  the  subjects   listed  in  the  benefit                                                               
category of the Summary Table for SB 88:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Employee Contribution                                                                                                         
The bill proposes to allow the  ARM Board to adjust the rate from                                                               
eight  to ten  percent depending  on the  past service  cost. The                                                               
rate starts  at ten percent for  the first year. After  that, the                                                               
ARM Board may  adjust the rate, and the variable  rate applies to                                                               
all  three employee  categories, PERS-PS,  PERS Non-PS,  and TRS.                                                               
Employees share the risks and  contribute more during poor market                                                               
returns.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:54:33 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:56:15 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN reconvened the meeting.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:56:25 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  KAWASAKI  continued reviewing  the  subjects  listed in  the                                                               
benefit category of the Summary Table for SB 88:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Employer Contribution                                                                                                         
The State  of Alaska does  not have a maximum  contribution limit                                                               
for PERS  and contributes above  22 percent; however,  other PERS                                                               
employers have  a maximum contribution  limit of 22  percent. The                                                               
proposed  employer contribution  limit  for  most PERS  employers                                                               
remains 22 percent and 12.56  percent for TRS employers. She said                                                               
SB 88 introduces  a 12 percent floor once  the unfunded liability                                                               
is paid off,  emphasizing pension experts recommend  a rate floor                                                               
of no lower than 12 percent.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vesting                                                                                                                       
SB 88  proposes a five-year  vesting term for all  three employee                                                               
categories, PERS-PS, PERS Non-PS,  and TRS, consistent with prior                                                               
PERS DB  tiers. TRS employees  had an eight-year  vesting period.                                                               
SB 88 aligns the vesting periods of TRS with PERS.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Qualification for Retirement                                                                                                    
PERS-PS Employees: may  retire at the age of 50  with 25 years of                                                               
service or at the age of 55 with 20 years of service.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
PERS Non-PS  Public Employees: may  retire at  60 or 30  years of                                                               
service.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
TRS Employees: may retire at 60 or 30 years of service.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:58:08 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  BISHOP  asked  whether  a  requirement  based  on  hours                                                               
constitutes  a   year  of  service  credit   towards  retirement,                                                               
specifically, part-time  seasonal employees, like  emergency fire                                                               
firefighters, Local 71 asphalt workers, and flaggers.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:59:02 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KAWASAKI deferred the question  to the Division of Retirement                                                               
and Benefits (DRB).                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  BJORKMAN invited  a representative  from  the Division  of                                                               
Retirement and Benefits to respond to the question.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:59:25 PM                                                                                                                    
MINDY VOIGT,  Manager, Retirement  Operations -  Public Employees                                                               
Retirement System  (PERS), Division  of Retirement  and Benefits,                                                               
Department  of  Administration  (DOA), Juneau,  Alaska,  answered                                                               
that a part-time  PERS employee must work 1,560  hours to receive                                                               
one year of retirement service credit.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:59:48 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  KAWASAKI  continued reviewing  the  subjects  listed in  the                                                               
benefit category of the Summary Table for SB 88.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Benefit Calculation Formula                                                                                                   
PERS-PS: 2  percent for the  first ten  years of service  and 2.5                                                               
percent after that. This calculation  is consistent with the PERS                                                               
Tier III benefit formula.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
PERS Non-PS: 2  percent for the first ten years  of service, 2.25                                                               
percent for the next ten years,  and 2.5 percent after that. This                                                               
calculation  is  consistent  with   the  PERS  Tier  III  benefit                                                               
formula.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
TRS: 2 percent  for the first ten years of  service, 2.25 percent                                                               
for the next ten years, and  2.5 percent after that. This differs                                                               
from the  previous TRS calculation,  which was 2 percent  for the                                                               
first 20  years, and 2.5  percent after  that. SB 88  proposes an                                                               
incremental  increase in  the benefit  calculation for  teachers,                                                               
which aligns with the PERS Non-PS calculation.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:01:11 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR  asked whether a  seasonal employee  would qualify                                                               
for one year of retirement  service credit by working 1,560 hours                                                               
accumulated over the years.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:01:57 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  VOIGT replied  that a  part-time  employee's service  credit                                                               
calculation  divides  the  total  number of  hours  worked  in  a                                                               
calendar  year  by  1,560  and   that  credited  service  accrues                                                               
annually towards the five-year [vesting requirement] for PERS.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:02:35 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  KAWASAKI  continued reviewing  the  subjects  listed in  the                                                               
benefit category of the Summary Table for SB 88.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Final Average Salary                                                                                                          
The final  average salary is  the highest five  consecutive years                                                               
for all employee  categories: PERS-PS, PERS Non-PS,  and TRS. The                                                               
PERS  Non-PS final  average salary  is consistent  with the  PERS                                                               
Tier III  defined benefit  (DB) plan. The  bill aligns  the final                                                               
average salary calculation for PERS-PS  and TRS with PERS Non-PS.                                                               
Previously,  the  highest  three  consecutive  years  calculation                                                               
determined  the PERS-PS  final average  salary,  and the  highest                                                               
three  contract salaries  calculation  determined  the TRS  final                                                               
average salary.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Alaska Cost of Living                                                                                                         
SB  88  eliminates the  cost-of-living  allowance  (COLA) due  to                                                               
concern  about  its cost  to  employers.  She said  members  have                                                               
discussed reinstating the COLA provision.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Post Retirement Pension Adjustments (PRPA)                                                                                    
(Inflation Protection)                                                                                                        
ARM Board  may provide  PRPA to  employees if  the DB  plan trust                                                               
fund values are  equal to or greater than 90  percent funded. ARM                                                               
Board can  withhold PRPA or lower  the percentage rate if  the DB                                                               
trust  fund values  fall  below 90  percent  funded. This  policy                                                               
applies  to all  employee categories,  PERS-PS, PERS  Non-PS, and                                                               
TRS.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:04:30 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  MERRICK questioned  the reason  for using  "may" in  the                                                               
PRPA provision.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. KAWASAKI  replied the benefit  is provided; however,  the ARM                                                               
Board  has discretionary  authority to  adjust it.  She said  she                                                               
would fine-tune  the language so  it appears  less discretionary.                                                               
She  explained  that the  ARM  Board  may  only reduce  the  PRPA                                                               
benefit if the unfunded liability exceeds 10 percent.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MERRICK  requested assurance  that action would  be taken                                                               
if the DB trust fund values fell below 90 percent.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. KAWASAKI responded in the affirmative.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:05:47 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  KAWASAKI  continued reviewing  the  subjects  listed in  the                                                               
benefit category of the Summary Table for SB 88.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Retirement Medical Coverage                                                                                                   
SB 88 provides  coverage to all three  employee categories: PERS-                                                               
PS, PERS Non-PS,  and TRS, which is consistent with  PERS Tier IV                                                               
defined  contribution   (DC)  plan  and  TRS   Tier  III  defined                                                               
contribution (DC)  plan. Medicare  is available  at age  65; this                                                               
major medical  coverage supplements  that, and premiums  for this                                                               
coverage  depend on  the employee's  years  of service.  [Section                                                               
79(c)  of the  bill states,  "The medical  benefits available  to                                                               
eligible  persons  are  access   to  the  retiree  major  medical                                                               
insurance   plan  and   access   to   the  health   reimbursement                                                               
arrangement  plan under  AS 39.30.300.]  The Summary  Table shows                                                               
the  employer  contributes  an  average   of  3  percent  of  the                                                               
employee's compensation to the HRA  trust. Retirees can use their                                                               
accounts  for  qualifying   medical  needs,  including  insurance                                                               
premiums.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:07:32 PM                                                                                                                    
Disability and Death Benefits                                                                                                 
Coverage for this  benefit is consistent with PERS  Tier III, the                                                               
last PERS DB plan. SB 88 aligns  the TRS with PERS plans for this                                                               
benefit.  The  nonoccupational  disability  benefits  provide  at                                                               
least  minimal protection  to employees  and  their families  for                                                               
career-ending injuries  or disabilities  that occur off  the job.                                                               
The  nonoccupational  disability   benefit  is  calculated  using                                                               
normal retirement  factors, like years  of service and  salary at                                                               
the time of the disability.  Statutes prescribe the formula for a                                                               
nonoccupational  death benefit.  The  occupational disability  or                                                               
death benefit provides 40 percent of the average base salary.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
What  would happen  to current  employees (hired  after 2006)  if                                                             
this became law?                                                                                                              
Current PERS and TRS DC plan  employees can convert to the new DB                                                               
plan by  November 4, 2024, or  four months from the  date of bill                                                               
enactment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
What  would happen  to new  employees if  this became  law (hired                                                             
after the bill goes into effect)?                                                                                             
New  employees  are automatically  enrolled  in  the new  defined                                                               
benefit system.  The primary  goal for  SB 88  is to  address the                                                               
state  workforce  challenge  in recruitment  and  retention.  The                                                               
state's best fiscal option to meet this goal is pensions.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BJORKMAN  thanked Ms. Kawasaki  for the summation  and said                                                               
the Summary  Table helps people  understand SB 88. He  opened the                                                               
floor  to  Senator  Giessel  for  comments  before  advancing  to                                                               
invited testimony.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:10:29 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GIESSEL thanked the committee  for hearing SB 88 and said                                                               
she looks forward to hearing from the testifiers.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  BJORKMAN said  the  bill sponsor  invited  a selection  of                                                               
testifiers to discuss  SB 88. He introduced Ted  Siedle. His full                                                               
biography is  available on BASIS  under bill documents.  He asked                                                               
Mr. Siedle to put himself on the record and begin his testimony.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:11:35 PM                                                                                                                    
EDWARD  "TED"  SIEDLE,  Financial  Pension  Expert,  Boca  Raton,                                                               
Florida, gave  a presentation on  the need for a  defined benefit                                                               
pension plan. He offered the following prepared testimony:                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     I   am  the   nation's  leading   expert  in   forensic                                                                    
     investigations   of  retired   plans,  a   former  U.S.                                                                    
     Securities  and Exchange  Commission (SEC)  lawyer, and                                                                    
     an   industry  executive   with   over   40  years   of                                                                    
     experience. I  have investigated well over  $1 trillion                                                                    
     in retirement plans.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     In 2016, I  won the first whistleblower  award from the                                                                    
     State  of  Indiana. In  2018,  I  received the  largest                                                                    
     Commodities  Future  Trading  Commission  whistleblower                                                                    
     award  in history,  $30  million. In  2019,  I won  the                                                                    
     largest  whistleblower award  from  the Securities  and                                                                    
     Exchange  Commission in  the amount  of $48  million. I                                                                    
     was named as  one of the 40 most  influential people in                                                                    
     the  U.S. pension  debate  by Institutional  [Investor]                                                                    
     magazine for  2014 and  2015. In  2020, I  and Rich Dad                                                                    
     Poor  Dad bestselling  author,   Robert  Kiyosaki,  co-                                                                    
     authored  a book, Who  Stole My  Pension?  How You  Can                                                                    
     Stop  the  Looting. Most  recently, I  authored How  to                                                                    
     Steal a Lot of MoneyLegally,   which offers an engaging                                                                    
     novel   approach   to  teaching   financial   literacy.                                                                    
     Millions have read my  articles in  Forbes. In addition                                                                    
     to television interviews on CNBC  and Bloomberg News, I                                                                    
     recently  appeared   in  two   full-length  documentary                                                                    
     films, The  Baby  Boomer  Dilemma and The  Paradigm  of                                                                    
     Money.  A member  of The  Florida Bar,  I am  currently                                                                    
     representing  Screen Actors  Guild (SAG)  members in  a                                                                    
     class action  lawsuit regarding changes to  the actors'                                                                    
     healthcare plan  during the  COVID pandemic.  Ed Asner,                                                                    
     known fondly  to most Americans  as Lou Grant,  was the                                                                    
     lead  plaintiff   in  this  ongoing  case   before  his                                                                    
     passing.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     2:14:13 PM                                                                                                               
     I'd  like to  begin  by telling  you  a personal  story                                                                    
     about how  I began  my forensic  work, which  I believe                                                                    
     explains  both  my  commitment to  protecting  workers'                                                                    
     retirement savings and my  final recommendations to you                                                                    
     today. The  year the Beattle's released  the love song,                                                                    
     "When I'm 64," I was  a teenager already thinking about                                                                    
     aging, eldercare,  and retirement. A  teenager thinking                                                                    
     about  getting  old  may  seem  unlikely,  but  let  me                                                                    
     explain.  I  spent my  teenage  years  in Uganda,  East                                                                    
     Africa, with my  father until one day in  July 1971, he                                                                    
     failed to return  from a journey, a safari  as we would                                                                    
     say in  Swahili, to  a remote part  of the  country. He                                                                    
     and  I had  celebrated  my seventeenth  birthday a  few                                                                    
     days before  he disappeared. My father  was an American                                                                    
     doctor  of gerontology  teaching  at Uganda's  Makerere                                                                    
     University and conducting field  research into the care                                                                    
     of  the  aged,  the   elderly  in  African  traditional                                                                    
     societies.  Why did  he choose  to  study how  Africans                                                                    
     took care  of their elderly? Because  in the mid-1960s,                                                                    
     my  father  had  vision  and  realized  that  America's                                                                    
     population   demographics,   the  massive   baby   boom                                                                    
     generation, meant  that in the  decades to come,  as 80                                                                    
     million  hippies got  older, our  nation would  have to                                                                    
     care  for them.  For the  first time  in history,  this                                                                    
     young nation,  a nation  which celebrated  youth, would                                                                    
     have  to  deal with  an  invasion  of elders,  and  the                                                                    
     American he  knew was  not prepared.  You could  say he                                                                    
     foresaw  the American  eldercare and  retirement crisis                                                                    
     that we are struggling  with today. Perhaps how African                                                                    
     societies traditionally  cared for their  elders, might                                                                    
     provide answers he thought.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     2:16:23 PM                                                                                                               
     My father traveled  extensively throughout remote parts                                                                    
     of  Uganda, which  we used  to call  the Bush,  meeting                                                                    
     with  missionaries and  others caring  for the  elderly                                                                    
     who  could   not  care  for  themselves.   Through  his                                                                    
     research and  travels, he developed  a wide  network of                                                                    
     reliable  contacts   who  kept   him  informed   as  to                                                                    
     happenings  in  the Bush.  Unbeknownst  to  me and  his                                                                    
     colleagues  at  the  university,  the  intelligence  he                                                                    
     gathered  was also  shared  with American  intelligence                                                                    
     agencies. In 1971, when he  disappeared in the garrison                                                                    
     town of  Mbarara, he was investigating  rumors that Idi                                                                    
     Amin,  the  new  president  of  Uganda,  had  butchered                                                                    
     hundreds  of his  own army  soldiers  stationed at  the                                                                    
     garrison without  firing a  single bullet.  My father's                                                                    
     disappearance alerted the world  for the first time, as                                                                    
     it was  immediately reported  in Newsweek magazine that                                                                    
     Idi  Amin was  brutal, a  murderer who  would go  on to                                                                    
     kill an estimated 500,000 of his own people.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     The child  of a single parent,  I had to return  to the                                                                    
     U.S. and  live with relatives  I barely knew.  Since he                                                                    
     had  disappeared and  was presumed  dead, but  his body                                                                    
     had not been  found, his estate could  not be probated,                                                                    
     his  life insurance  benefits would  not  be paid,  and                                                                    
     even   Social    Security   survivor    benefits   were                                                                    
     unavailable.  In short,  I was  not  only orphaned  but                                                                    
     penniless. A year after  his disappearance, the Ugandan                                                                    
     Commission  of Inquiry  concluded  my  father had  been                                                                    
     captured  by Amin,  tortured, and  murdered because  of                                                                    
     his  intelligence  work.  And, although  his  body  was                                                                    
     never found,  his estate was  able to be  probated, his                                                                    
     life  insurance benefits  came  through  as did  Social                                                                    
     Security   survivor    benefits.   Through   diplomatic                                                                    
     channels,   the    Ugandan   government    offered   an                                                                    
     [undiscernible]    of   payment,    without   admitting                                                                    
     responsibility for the murder, and paid reparations.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     2:18:45 PM                                                                                                               
     As a  result of my  father's work, I was  introduced to                                                                    
     aging  and  eldercare  issues  at  a  very  young  age.                                                                    
     Further,  as  a result  of  his  murder, I  experienced                                                                    
     first-hand  the  value  of  America's  Social  Security                                                                    
     system and the benefits it  provides not only elders in                                                                    
     retirement  but  to   their  survivors,  children,  and                                                                    
     disabled  in critical  need. I  also  learned early  in                                                                    
     life  to  be  tenacious  in  protecting  what  is  most                                                                    
     important, such as health, family, and, yes, wealth.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     The first  forensic investigation  of my  lifetime into                                                                    
     the disappearance of my father  was not completed until                                                                    
     decades later, in  1997, when I returned  to Uganda and                                                                    
     with  the  assistance   of  the  American  intelligence                                                                    
     community  and Ugandan  military,  I sat  face to  face                                                                    
     with my  father's murderer  at Luzira  Maximum Security                                                                    
     Prison.  Guided by  his murderers,  I dug  for but  was                                                                    
     unable  to find  my  father's remains.  However, I  did                                                                    
     find the answers  I needed about how and  when he died,                                                                    
     as well as  the satisfaction of knowing I  had done all                                                                    
     I could.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:20:10 PM                                                                                                                    
     Now,   I  would   like  to   talk  about   my  forensic                                                                    
     investigations  into  401(k)  plans, which  led  me  to                                                                    
     write   nearly  20   years  ago,   "The  great   401(k)                                                                    
     experiment of the past 50  years has failed generations                                                                    
     of  American   workers,  and   today  there   is  broad                                                                    
     consensus   401(k)s  have   not   and  cannot   provide                                                                    
     meaningful  retirement   security."  In  2006,   I  was                                                                    
     retained  as a  consulting  expert  in connection  with                                                                    
     twelve  high-profile class  action lawsuits,  filed the                                                                    
     same  day,  September  11, against  many  of  America's                                                                    
     largest  401(k) plans,  including corporations  such as                                                                    
     Lockheed Martin,  Kraft, Walmart,  Caterpillar, Boeing,                                                                    
     Northrop   Grumman,  General   Dynamics,  John   Deere,                                                                    
     Bechtel,  ABB, and  Edison. These  were the  very first                                                                    
     cases  to challenge  the  structure  in management  for                                                                    
     401(k)s. The  findings in these cases  were surprising,                                                                    
     even  to me.  I  wrote  about what  I  uncovered in  my                                                                    
     investigations  in  dozens  of  articles  in Forbes and                                                                    
     published an extensive research  paper, "Secrets of the                                                                    
     401(k)   Industry:  How   Employers  and   Mutual  Fund                                                                    
     Advisers  Prospered as  Workers'  Dreams of  Retirement                                                                    
     Security Evaporated." My  paper documented the unsavory                                                                    
     industry practices and  regulatory failures that played                                                                    
     a   significant   role    in   creating   the   defined                                                                    
     contribution retirement crisis the nation faces today.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     The demise of 401(k)s was  no accident and, indeed, was                                                                    
     predictable,  I  wrote.  My   research  found  that  80                                                                    
     percent  of employers  believed 401(k)s  were effective                                                                    
     in  recruiting employees  to come  work  for them,  but                                                                    
     only 13  percent of employers believed  that the 401(k)                                                                    
     plans they offered  would provide meaningful retirement                                                                    
     security for  their workers. In other  words, employers                                                                    
     understood  that  offering   plans  that  purported  to                                                                    
     provide  for workers'  retirement security  was helpful                                                                    
     in  building   their  businesses;   however,  employers                                                                    
     privately  acknowledged  that   these  plans  were  not                                                                    
     sufficient  to provide  for  retirement.  On the  other                                                                    
     hand,  employers  believed that  guaranteed  retirement                                                                    
     income,  such as  traditional pension  plans, would  be                                                                    
     far more costly to provide.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:23:07 PM                                                                                                                    
     So,  I wrote,  "Do employers  tell their  workers there                                                                    
     really is no retirement  security provided if they stay                                                                    
     in their  jobs and thereby risk  losing these employees                                                                    
     to competitors,  or do  employers maintain  the charade                                                                    
     that they  offer retirement security? Has  any employer                                                                    
     ever  acknowledged  to  workers that  it  is  virtually                                                                    
     inconceivable  that the  defined  contribution plan  he                                                                    
     offers  will provide  sufficient retirement  income?" I                                                                    
     ask you  today, have you  ever heard an  employer admit                                                                    
     that there is  no way [employees] will ever  be able to                                                                    
     retire on their 401(k) savings?  I have never seen such                                                                    
     a disclosure.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Two  weeks  ago,   in  an  article  in Forbes entitled,                                                                    
     "Alaska   State  Workers   Hoodwinked  Into   Believing                                                                    
     401(k)-Style  Retirement   Plan  Was   As  Good   As  A                                                                    
     Pension."  I wrote  about my  experience  as an  expert                                                                    
     retained  to speak  on behalf  of the  City of  Atlanta                                                                    
     police about  a proposal by  the city to  force workers                                                                    
     into a  401(k)-type plan.  I began  my comments  to the                                                                    
     Atlanta City Council, saying, "We  are on the precipice                                                                    
     of  the greatest  retirement crisis  in the  history of                                                                    
     the  world. In  the decades  to come,  we will  witness                                                                    
     tens  of millions  of elderly  Americans slipping  into                                                                    
     poverty. 'Too frail  to work, too poor  to retire' will                                                                    
     become the  new normal  for elderly Americans."  If you                                                                    
     do not believe  me, I said look at who  is bagging your                                                                    
     groceries. It used  to be high school kids;  now, it is                                                                    
     men and women in their 70s  or even 80s. I explained to                                                                    
     the city  council that 401(k)  DC plans are  largely to                                                                    
     blame for this foreseeable  tragedy, and forcing public                                                                    
     employees  into  401(k)s   would  only  ensure  greater                                                                    
     misery. I said, "401(k)s cannot  and will not provide a                                                                    
     meaningful  retirement  security for  the  overwhelming                                                                    
     number  of  America's  workers and  certainly  not  the                                                                    
     public employees of the City of Atlanta."                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:25:42 PM                                                                                                                    
     Notice that  I did not  refer to 401(k)s  as retirement                                                                    
     plans in  my comments.  That was intentional;  401 (k)s                                                                    
     were not meant to be  retirement plans. Let me say that                                                                    
     again,   401(k)s  were   never   intended  to   provide                                                                    
     retirement security. They  were initially envisioned as                                                                    
     a way  for management-level  people to put  aside extra                                                                    
     retirement money,  cash in addition to  their pensions,                                                                    
     much   like  457   deferred   compensation  plans   for                                                                    
     government employees that  rely primarily upon pensions                                                                    
     for retirement  security. In the 1980s,  the 401(k) was                                                                    
     embraced  by  big  corporations as  a  replacement  for                                                                    
     costly  pension funds.  Suddenly, large  companies were                                                                    
     able  to  transfer  the burden  of  funding  employees'                                                                    
     retirement to  the employees themselves.  Virtually all                                                                    
     the major  private employers  jumped on  the bandwagon.                                                                    
     The  surreal vision  of  turning rank-and-file  workers                                                                    
     into  astute portfolio  managers, each  responsible for                                                                    
     successfully directing his  own investments, took hold.                                                                    
     Unfortunately, things  did not  work out quite  as well                                                                    
     for  the  workers,  not  as  well as  it  did  for  the                                                                    
     employers and the financial services companies.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Since the initial class action  lawsuits I was involved                                                                    
     with in  2006, virtually  all the largest  employers in                                                                    
     the world have been  sued regarding their 401(k)s. Over                                                                    
     a  decade  ago,  way  back   in  2010,  84  percent  of                                                                    
     Americans surveyed  said it was time  for new, improved                                                                    
     workplace  retirement  plans,  84  percent  that  is  a                                                                    
     staggering   dissatisfaction  rate.   As   I  said   in                                                                    
     my Forbes articles,    "401(k)s    are   the    biggest                                                                    
     investment  fraud   ever  perpetrated   upon  America's                                                                    
     workers."  I believe  it ought  to be  a crime  to call                                                                    
     these retirement plans.  Call them supplemental savings                                                                    
     plans  or  rainy-day accounts,  but  do  not call  them                                                                    
     retirement plans  and mislead  workers to  believe that                                                                    
     401(k)s  will provide  for  their retirement  security.                                                                    
     They  won't. Today,  with a  median 401(k)  balance for                                                                    
     65-year-olds of  $62,000, the decades many  elders will                                                                    
     spend in so-called retirement will  be grim. I told the                                                                    
     Atlanta City  Council, "So, if  you vote to  force your                                                                    
     city's public  employees into a 401(k)-type  system, at                                                                    
     least  be honest  about it  and admit  from the  get-go                                                                    
     that this is no retirement plan."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:28:51 PM                                                                                                                    
     In  closing,  it was  no  secret  in  2006, and  it  is                                                                    
     abundantly clear  today that  401(k)-type plans  do not                                                                    
     provide anything near the  level of retirement security                                                                    
     as pensions. I feel  nothing but compassion for Alaskan                                                                    
     state workers who were  forced to unwittingly sacrifice                                                                    
     their retirement security 17  years ago. The retirement                                                                    
     crisis  Alaskan  state  workers are  facing  today  was                                                                    
     foreseeable and indeed was foreseen.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:29:29 PM                                                                                                                    
     My  recommendation  to  you   is  that  a  well-managed                                                                    
     pension  should be  established  immediately for  state                                                                    
     workers going forward, but that  is not enough. Workers                                                                    
     who were  forced into the  401(k)-type scheme  17 years                                                                    
     ago  are deserving  of  compensation  that will  ensure                                                                    
     comparable levels  of retirement security.  They should                                                                    
     not  be left  behind. As  I learned  in Africa  over 50                                                                    
     years ago, you must protect  the health and wealth, the                                                                    
     lives of  those who are  most important to you.  I urge                                                                    
     you to act to protect Alaska state workers.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Thank you for this opportunity to speak.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:30:16 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN requested a copy of his written remarks.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:30:39 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BISHOP thanked Mr. Siedle  for taking the time to address                                                               
the  committee, noting  that his  testimony hit  the nail  on the                                                               
head. He noted  that he had been making the  same argument for 17                                                               
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:31:06 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN  asked whether it  would be cheaper for  the State                                                               
of Alaska to invest in a DB plan  than a DC plan as it relates to                                                               
the return on the invested dollar.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SIEDLE replied  that the  key to  running a  defined benefit                                                               
plan  is  full  transparency,  low cost,  and  passively  managed                                                               
funds, index  funds. He said  Warren Buffet recommends  this, and                                                               
it has  been his recommendation  for decades. A  well-run pension                                                               
plan  can  be   cheaper  than  a  poorly   managed  401(k)  plan.                                                               
Unfortunately, most DB  plans are not run as  efficiently as they                                                               
should. They are not as  transparent, they have higher costs, and                                                               
they  have  greater risks  than  disclosed.  However, a  well-run                                                               
pension plan can provide benefits at a comparable price.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:32:38 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON asked for his  thoughts on including a cost-                                                               
of-living (COLA) provision in SB 88.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. SIEDLE  answered that he  believes a COLA adjustment  is fair                                                               
because  the  cost  of  living  rises  over  time.  He  suggested                                                               
including a COLA adjustment;  otherwise, an employee's retirement                                                               
benefit is easily  cut in half, with inflation  over thirty years                                                               
of retirement.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:33:46 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:34:36 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN reconvened  the  meeting and  announced that  the                                                               
next invited testifier is Bill  Popp, who will speak on workforce                                                               
impacts. He asked Mr. Popp to put himself on the record.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:35:01 PM                                                                                                                    
BILL  POPP, President  and  CEO,  Anchorage Economic  Development                                                               
Corporation (AEDC),  Anchorage, Alaska,  clarified that  AEDC has                                                               
not taken  a position on SB  88. He neither speaks  in support of                                                               
or against SB  88. He said he intends to  provide context for the                                                               
current labor  force situation in Anchorage  and, by association,                                                               
the state. Alaska  is dealing with, and will be  dealing with for                                                               
decades  to come,  competition nationally  for workers.  AEDC has                                                               
been  trying to  increase  the City  of  Anchorage's labor  force                                                               
recruitment  and retention  competitiveness since  2010. He  said                                                               
these  efforts have  yet  to  be successful.  Alaska  has seen  a                                                               
population decline in  the last decade and, more to  the point, a                                                               
drop  in the  available labor  force. He  said that,  in general,                                                               
Alaska  lost  over 30,000  working-age  adults  in the  last  ten                                                               
years.  Anchorage  shared half  the  loss,  losing nearly  15,000                                                               
working-age  adults compared  to  the number  available 15  years                                                               
ago. This is a result  of net outmigration. Historically, tens of                                                               
thousands  of  Alaskans  migrating  out  and  tens  of  thousands                                                               
migrating  in  from the  Lower  48  and elsewhere  kept  Alaska's                                                               
population shifts offset. The  population remained balanced since                                                               
the  1970s with  some years  of net  loss of  working-age adults.                                                               
Still,  overall, a  reasonably balanced  labor market  existed in                                                               
the  state. Alaska  has  a lack  of  workforce regeneration.  All                                                               
working age categories show a  flat or mostly net population loss                                                               
in the last decade. This is  a significant issue that Alaska will                                                               
deal with for decades to come.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:37:42 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  POPP said  the  previous speaker  referenced a  generational                                                               
shift.  The baby  boom  generation is  retiring.  He stated  that                                                               
approximately  41,000,000 baby  boomers nationwide  are under  64                                                               
years of age  and still in the working age  category, noting that                                                               
all  baby boomers  will be  65  or older  by 2030.  Alaska has  a                                                               
propensity  for older  working  adults. The  state  has not  seen                                                               
younger generations moving  to Alaska in the  numbers needed, and                                                               
the  number of  older  adults out-migrating  has accelerated.  In                                                               
conjunction with that, there are  accelerated retirement rates in                                                               
the baby boomer  generation. The baby boomers are  headed for the                                                               
retirement door fairly quickly,  with the largest number retiring                                                               
in  the 62  to  63  age category.  The  Department  of Labor  and                                                               
Workforce  Development  (DOLWD),  Research and  Analysis  Section                                                               
showed  that 19  percent of  the Anchorage  population was  55 or                                                               
older  in 2010  and  that increased  to 25  percent  in the  most                                                               
recent census projection data.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:38:53 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. POPP  said that this  is a significant demographic  shift. It                                                               
is representative of a predicted  longer-term shift in the coming                                                               
decades when  78 million boomers  step off the stage,  trailed by                                                               
only  68  million  Generation  Xers  nationwide.  The  millennial                                                               
generation follows  behind Generation X with  a slight population                                                               
increase  of  72  million.  Generation Z  follows  that,  with  a                                                               
population  of only  62  million. In  the  professional world  of                                                               
economic  development, this  creates a  national competition  for                                                               
workers, referred  to as "talent  wars."   He said this  has been                                                               
happening for over a decade  nationally, with communities gearing                                                               
up  for these  demographic shifts,  investing in  the quality  of                                                               
place,  different  needed  amenities,   as  well  as  competitive                                                               
policies designed to attract and retain a workforce.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. POPP said that AEDC found  that Alaska had been asleep at the                                                               
wheel.  They are  caught  up in  old habits  with  the idea  that                                                               
people move  to Alaska no matter  what, that it is  just a short-                                                               
term  cycle,  and  that  there  is nothing  to  worry  about.  He                                                               
emphasized that this  is a fundamental shift  in Alaska's future.                                                               
He  said  the  state  currently   shows  great  opportunity  with                                                               
Anchorage and the  Mat-Su posting over 69,000 jobs  last year. He                                                               
said that  through March  this year, they  had nearly  27,000 job                                                               
postings unique  and distinct to  the area. Job  demand continues                                                               
to remain  strong. Anchorage  reported a  record-low unemployment                                                               
rate of 2.7 percent in December.  He said that, in his view, this                                                               
is  the center  of gravity  in  the context  of today's  hearing.                                                               
Thousands of  state, federal, and  local government  workers make                                                               
up  a significant  part  of Alaska's  economy.  Coupled with  the                                                               
University  of  Alaska and  school  district  employees, this  is                                                               
about  one out  of  five jobs  in Anchorage.  This  is second  to                                                               
Anchorage  International  Airport,  which generates  one  out  of                                                               
seven jobs in the city.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:41:35 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  POPP  said  Anchorage  could   be  replacing  thousands  and                                                               
thousands  of vacant  jobs this  year and  converting those  into                                                               
employment,  but  the city  needs  the  bodies. This  extends  to                                                               
municipal,   state,  and   federal   governments  with   national                                                               
competition in those categories. He  said the effects are visible                                                               
in  workforce   shortfalls  of   state  government,   leading  to                                                               
bottlenecks that:                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
- prevent companies from obtaining project permits,                                                                             
- constrain business due to delays,                                                                                             
- getting business investments off the ground and deployed,                                                                     
- processing key certifications, and                                                                                            
-  addressing  issues  the state  government  oversees  vital  to                                                               
   business and deploying investments.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
For  these reasons,  AEDC  supports a  solid  exploration of  how                                                               
state government  will fill thousands  of vacant  positions vital                                                               
to  economic activity,  taking advantage  of investments  and the                                                               
state's  future.  Business  opportunities  and  investments  will                                                               
deploy elsewhere if they cannot deploy promptly in Alaska.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:42:57 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  POPP  said  the  DOLWD latest  Trends  magazine  provides  a                                                               
complete dissertation  on the outlook of  working-age adults over                                                               
the next  30 years.  The magazine  indicates a  mid-case scenario                                                               
net  annual loss  of .2  percent  of working-age  adults over  30                                                               
years. The worst  case is the loss of  150,000 working-age adults                                                               
over  30 years,  and the  most optimistic  case is  a .5  percent                                                               
growth. AEDC's  view is that companies  will prioritize deploying                                                               
investments  where the  labor  force is  stable  and growing  and                                                               
meets expectations  for the deployment  of capital to  create new                                                               
business  and investments.  If  the labor  force  is unstable  or                                                               
declines, Alaska  will see an  erosion in  economic opportunities                                                               
in the  coming decades. He expressed  his belief that one  of the                                                               
most   important  sectors   besides   the   broader  sectors   of                                                               
professional  development, healthcare,  engineering, and  all the                                                               
other  industry  sectors represented  in  the  private sector  is                                                               
having  great,  fully  staffed  schools  that  provide  excellent                                                               
education  opportunities  at  the  K-12  and  university  levels.                                                               
Equally critical  are government  services that  younger, family-                                                               
age, mid-career,  and senior workers  expect in a  community they                                                               
want to live in and invest  their time and efforts in to generate                                                               
their futures.  The state  is not making  the grade;  the numbers                                                               
tell us that  Anchorage lost over 4,000 people  from the working-                                                               
age category just  last year. This is not a  trend that the state                                                               
can sit idly by, cross its fingers, and hope for.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:45:21 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  POPP said  Alaska needs  to take  proactive steps.  AEDC, in                                                               
partnership with  other business  organizations in  Anchorage, is                                                               
focused  on the  "Choose  Anchorage" plan.  The  plan focuses  on                                                               
business  vitality  but  primarily  on  talent,  developing  more                                                               
talent  and  higher-skilled  workers   within  the  workforce  in                                                               
Alaska. Alaska needs to attract  critical workers from across the                                                               
nation because  the state  will never  fill these  positions from                                                               
within the state's  population. The challenge facing  Alaska is a                                                               
higher  cost  of living,  about  26  percent above  the  national                                                               
average. The cost of living reduces  the buying power of wage and                                                               
benefit  packages. From  a competitive  point of  view, competing                                                               
against other  cities nationwide,  Alaska has  to offer  a better                                                               
deal to get workers to move  and stay here. The model that points                                                               
to mountains as though that is  the only reason a person needs to                                                               
live in Alaska does not work anymore.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:46:32 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. POPP stated  that his last point is that  Anchorage is one of                                                               
the only profiled  cities in the state using  new census analysis                                                               
by the U.S.  Census Bureau. It demonstrates that  the state loses                                                               
34  percent  of  its  16-   to  26-year-olds  from  the  City  of                                                               
Anchorage.  They  leave  and  never  return,  draining  potential                                                               
workers.  Whatever enticements  and  ways to  attract and  retain                                                               
workers  are critical  to Alaska's  economic future  and success.                                                               
Whatever the state can do to  attract and retain youth is crucial                                                               
to the state. He recommended  the book, "When the Boomer's Bail."                                                               
It was  written in 2011 and  lays out the story,  in no uncertain                                                               
terms,  of what  will happen  to cities  and states  that do  not                                                               
adapt  to the  nationally  changing  demographics. He  encouraged                                                               
committee members  to read  the book. He  explained that  he does                                                               
not agree  with everything  in the book.  Still, its  analysis of                                                               
what communities in Alaska could face is prophetic.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:48:20 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN invited  Lisa Parady to put herself  on the record                                                               
and begin her testimony.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:49:07 PM                                                                                                                    
LISA  PARADY,  Executive  Director,   Alaska  Council  of  School                                                               
Administrators (ACSA),  Juneau, Alaska, presented a  slideshow in                                                               
support  of SB  88  and explained  how  Alaska's recruitment  and                                                               
retention crisis  is affecting all of  Alaska's school districts.                                                               
She said ACSA  is a 50-year-old nonprofit created to  serve as an                                                               
umbrella  to some  of Alaska's  premier organizations,  including                                                               
the  Alaska Superintendents  Association,  Alaska Association  of                                                               
Elementary  School Principals,  Alaska  Association of  Secondary                                                               
School   Principals,  Alaska   Association  of   School  Business                                                               
Officials, and  a host of  other administrators  serving students                                                               
across  Alaska.  She  agreed  with   the  testimony  of  previous                                                               
speakers, which  supports establishing  a new DB  retirement plan                                                               
for teachers  and other public  employees to  address recruitment                                                               
and retention challenges.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:50:44 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. PARADY  summarized the map  on slide 2,  "Supporting Alaska's                                                               
School  Districts," stating  ACSA supports  all school  districts                                                               
and  represents education  leaders statewide.  ACSA is  united in                                                               
its  priorities   of  educators   for  urban  and   rural  school                                                               
districts.  ACSA  understands  there  is  no  room  for  division                                                               
between  large, small,  urban, rural,  or  remote communities  in                                                               
Alaska. All school districts are  experiencing shortages at every                                                               
level. School  districts are the  largest employer or are  in the                                                               
top  three  largest in  most  communities,  so they  are  greatly                                                               
affected by workforce challenges  from the business and education                                                               
standpoints.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:51:47 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  PARADY  reviewed slide  3,  "Student  achievement is  ACSA's                                                               
number  one  priority." ACSA's  most  critical  need is  adequate                                                               
funding. ACSA members  work together each year  on joint position                                                               
statements; these  statements envelop the highest  priorities for                                                               
Alaska  education policy  positions. Student  achievement is  the                                                               
number one  priority, but recruitment and  retention of educators                                                               
are essential  aspects of public  education. She said  many areas                                                               
in  education are  suffering from  staffing shortages,  impacting                                                               
students daily, as seen in many news headlines.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:52:49 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  PARADY advanced  to slides  4 and  5, "Educator  Turnover in                                                               
Alaska." A  Regional Education  Laboratory Northwest  study found                                                               
that  educator  turnover impacts  rural  and  remote schools  the                                                               
most.  Teacher turnover  is over  35  percent in  most rural  and                                                               
remote school districts and 38  percent for principals. She noted                                                               
that these figures are pre-pandemic, so the numbers are even                                                                    
higher today. The turnover rates are staggering.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. PARADY said the study also addresses teacher and principal                                                                  
outmigration. Educator turnover leads to instability in                                                                         
classrooms and schools, directly affecting student achievement.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. PARADY advanced to slide 5, which reads:                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Most of Alaska's turnover  was educators leaving Alaska                                                                    
     or the profession.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Statewide  turnover  rates   from  2012/13  to  2017/18                                                                    
     remained steady for teachers  but varied for principals                                                                    
     and  superintendents.  Nearly  60  percent  of  teacher                                                                    
     turnover  involved  "leavers"  - individuals  who  left                                                                    
     Alaska  or remained  in the  state but  were no  longer                                                                    
     educators.  For  example,  in 2017/18,  13  percent  of                                                                    
     teachers left  the profession or their  position, while                                                                    
     9 percent of teachers went  to a new district or school                                                                    
     but remained in the Alaska public school system.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
              Turnover rates in Alaska for 2017/18                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Teacher        13 percent leaver                                                                                           
                    22 percent overall turnover                                                                                 
     Principal      17 percent leaver                                                                                           
                    25 percent overall turnover                                                                                 
     Superintendent 19 percent leaver                                                                                           
                    25 percent overall turnover                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. PARADY noted that these numbers have increased because of                                                                   
the pandemic.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:54:20 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. PARADY reviewed slides 6 and 7, "Costs of Turnover," stating                                                                
researchers have done some great work on the costs of educator                                                                  
turnover:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     • [Institute of Social and Economic Research]                                                                              
        ISER Study - 2017                                                                                                       
        Every time Alaska replaces a teacher, it costs the                                                                      
        school district over $20,000                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     • RAND Study - 2019                                                                                                        
        Average cost to replace a principal is $75,000                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. PARADAY  said these costs  have increased  significantly. She                                                               
asked  the  committee  to  consider  turnover  costs  as  members                                                               
reflect on  38 percent turnover  rate for principals  in Alaska's                                                               
most  rural-remote areas.  Turnover significantly  affects school                                                               
district budgets.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:55:09 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. PARADY  advanced to  the chart  on slide  7, which  shows the                                                               
breakdown of costs to replace a teacher in 2017:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Separation                                                                                                                 
     $2,449    12 percent of total cost for                                                                                     
     Administrative, maintenance, and security tasks                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Recruitment                                                                                                                
     $1,910    9 percent of total cost for                                                                                      
     Job fairs, advertising                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Hiring                                                                                                                     
     $4,902    24 percent of total cost for                                                                                     
    Screening   applicants,    interviews,   administrative                                                                     
     processes                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Orientation and Training                                                                                                   
     $11,170   55 percent of total cost for                                                                                     
     Professional development, onboarding, and new teacher                                                                      
     support                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Our total calculated cost: $20,431 per teacher                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PARADY  said the  Wallace  Foundation  shared the  following                                                               
quote in  a school leader  study, "when strong principals  are at                                                               
the helm of the school,  they positively influence school culture                                                               
and the  instructional quality of  the whole system  of teachers.                                                               
However, when  a principal turns  over, students achieve  less in                                                               
both  math  and  reading  during  the  first  year  after  leader                                                               
turnover,  and schools  that experience  principal turnover  year                                                               
after  year, which  we  see in  Alaska,  have serious  cumulative                                                               
negative effects  on our students."  This condition  is magnified                                                               
in schools that serve underprivileged or impoverished students.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:56:10 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. PARADY advanced to slide 8,  which shows a photo composite of                                                               
Alaska's 54  superintendents from 2018-2019.  The superintendents                                                               
that  no longer  work in  the state  are marked  out. Thirty-nine                                                               
photos are  marked out,  and two  more left  this year.  She said                                                               
that the superintendent, principal,  and teacher turnover equates                                                               
to instability. Instability correlates  to low achievement in the                                                               
classroom.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PARADY reviewed  slide 9,  "How Does  Turnover Harm  Student                                                               
Achievement?"  She   said  in   Alaska,  high   teacher  turnover                                                               
correlates with poor  student achievement. A study  by ISER shows                                                               
that school  districts with  the five  lowest turnover  rates had                                                               
significantly  better reading  scores  than those  with the  five                                                               
highest  turnover rates.  These  statistics are  linked. They  go                                                               
hand in  hand. She  said that  stabilizing school  districts will                                                               
improve student achievement.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:57:36 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  PARADY   advanced  to  slide  10,   "Retirement  System  for                                                               
Educators."  She said  the ACSA  2023  joint position  statements                                                               
prioritize a  retirement system for  educators. She  reviewed the                                                               
slide:                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     • According to the Economic Policy Institute the average                                                                   
        teacher earns 21% less than other professionals with a                                                                  
        college degree                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     • A portion of this gap can be offset by providing a robust                                                                
        retirement system for educators                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PARADY   reviewed  slide  11,  "Preparing,   Attracting  and                                                               
Retaining Qualified Educators:"                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     • Retaining highly effective educators and leaders is                                                                      
        imperative to increase student achievement and eliminate                                                                
        academic disparity for all of Alaska's students.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     • A nationally competitive compensation and benefits                                                                       
        package, combined with a robust retirement system is                                                                    
        imperative to attract and retain effective educators.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. PARADY  advanced to slide  12, "How Retirement  Benefits Rank                                                               
for  Educators."  The slide  shows  the  Governor's Taskforce  on                                                               
Teacher  Recruitment and  Retention  (TRR) survey  data based  on                                                               
interviews with 4,000  educators in the 2021-2022  year. She said                                                               
that the  data shows the  number one priority  for administrators                                                               
trying to  hire staff is  retirement benefits,  which underscores                                                               
how important SB 88 is for the stability of school districts.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. PARADY reviewed  slide 13, "How Retirement  Benefits Rank for                                                               
Educators." The slide shows the  responses of all people surveyed                                                               
in  the TRR  questionnaire. Three  of  the top  ten solutions  to                                                               
educator retention  are related to retirement  benefits. She said                                                               
the  results  are compelling,  given  that  over 4,000  educators                                                               
responded  to the  survey  in Alaska  last  year. They  indicated                                                               
retirement  benefits would  positively influence  school district                                                               
stability and student achievement.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:59:49 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. PARADY advanced to slide  14, "Other States Know Alaska Isn't                                                               
Competitive." She reviewed a flyer  from a recent job fair, which                                                               
indicates job searchers should beware  of teaching in Alaska. The                                                               
flyer reads in part:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
             Thinking of Teaching in Alaska? BEWARE                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska is  the ONLY state  in the nation that  does not                                                                    
     allow  their teacher  to  participate  in the  National                                                                    
     Social  Security system,  and yet  provides no  defined                                                                    
     pension  or benefit  for their  teachers  with a  start                                                                    
     date  after  2006. You  will  be  unable to  apply  for                                                                    
     National  or State  disability  benefits or  disability                                                                    
     insurance if you can't work due to injury or disease.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     As soon  as you  start teaching  for Alaska  any Social                                                                    
     Security benefits you've accrued will be cut.                                                                              
     Windfall Elimination Act                                                                                                   
     https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10045.pdf                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Any Social  Security benefits  your spouse  has accrued                                                                    
     will now not go to you if they die before you.                                                                             
     Government Pension Offset                                                                                                  
     https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-1007.pdf                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. PARADY  said the  state does  not want  a slogan  that reads,                                                               
"Friends do not  let friends teach in Alaska." She  said SB 88 is                                                               
an opportunity to shift the message.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:00:47 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. PARADY reviewed slide 15, "Solutions:"                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Offering   a  defined   benefits  option   to  Alaska's                                                                    
     Educators                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     •  Will help close the gap in retention and in Alaska's                                                                    
        School                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     • Will attract new teachers to the state                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:01:23 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BISHOP directed  attention to slide 15  and asked whether                                                               
a  bulleted statement  that read  "will  improve student  reading                                                               
proficiency to  85.8 percent" could  be added to the  slide based                                                               
on the data presented.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. PARADAY replied  that she was not sure  about the percentage,                                                               
but she expressed her belief  school districts will see increased                                                               
student achievement if the legislation passes.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:02:10 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MERRICK asked  if she had any changes  or suggestions for                                                               
SB 88.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. PARADY said that ASCA members  are examining the bill line by                                                               
line. ASCA  has the  overall support  of members  to move  in the                                                               
direction of  SB 88 and  will bring prospective  changes forward.                                                               
She said  ASCA is  in alignment  with the bill,  and this  is the                                                               
right  start.  Changes,  if  any,   that  come  forward  will  be                                                               
reasonable and  come from  the perspective of  how to  retain and                                                               
attract   teachers,   substitute   teachers,   paraprofessionals,                                                               
principals,  superintendents,  bus   drivers,  and  every  person                                                               
working for  a school  district. It does  not matter  whether the                                                               
school district is urban or rural; the need is statewide.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:03:40 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:03:58 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN reconvened  the meeting and asked  Jordan Adams to                                                               
put himself on the record and begin his testimony.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:04:12 PM                                                                                                                    
JORDAN  ADAMS,  Business  Manager,  Public  Employees  Local  71,                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska,  gave invited testimony  in support of  SB 88.                                                               
He said  Local 71  is a statewide  union composed  of blue-collar                                                               
essential  workers,  equipment  operators, light  and  heavy-duty                                                               
mechanics,  carpenters, electricians,  building maintenance,  and                                                               
custodians.  Local  71 plows  20,000  road  miles, and  maintains                                                               
three international  airports and critical  infrastructure. Union                                                               
services ensure the safety of the traveling public and commerce.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. ADAMS said the retirement  systems must be addressed with the                                                               
rising cost  of living and  job vacancies. The state  cannot keep                                                               
or  attract  qualified  workers  with  noncompetitive  wages  and                                                               
benefits.  A  shortage  of workers  means  gaps,  which  directly                                                               
affect services  provided to  Alaskans. SB  88 is  a step  in the                                                               
right direction.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. ADAMS said this legislation is  just one piece of the puzzle.                                                               
Wages and benefits go hand in  hand. Public sector work has never                                                               
paid more than  private, but the benefits used  to be comparable.                                                               
He said  that with less  desirable wage and benefit  package, the                                                               
state  has  rendered  itself  uncompetitive  and  now  faces  the                                                               
reality of being unable to attract qualified workers.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. ADAMS said the skills  required for many positions that Local                                                               
71 represents  are advanced  journeys, meaning  many certificated                                                               
and  licensed  training  hours. These  essential  direct  service                                                               
positions keep Alaska moving.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:05:47 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  ADAMS said  Alaska is  the  only state  not offering  secure                                                               
defined  benefits for  public employees.  The current  retirement                                                               
plan  does  not provide  the  incentives  offered under  previous                                                               
tiers. The  state has an  opportunity to  right this ship.  SB 88                                                               
can  start that  process. Local  71 public  employees have  lived                                                               
with the  Tier IV  retirement plan  for over  16 years.  The plan                                                               
underwhelms many  applicants; the benefits differ  from what they                                                               
expected.  Applicants weigh  this  factor  heavily when  deciding                                                               
whether to  work for  the state.  Staffing shortages  are hurting                                                               
every  department.  Some  departments   are  understaffed  by  30                                                               
percent or more.  Snow events and emergencies  are more difficult                                                               
than  ever to  overcome, not  simply because  of the  weather. He                                                               
said crews are understaffed and do  not have the capacity to keep                                                               
up, resulting  in overworked staff  and unstable  work schedules.                                                               
All  hands on  deck  is  not a  permanent  solution; the  limited                                                               
number of staff is causing employees to burn out.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. ADAMS said  that the high vacancy rates  are not sustainable.                                                               
Local  71   needs  the  tools   to  repair  its   overworked  and                                                               
underappreciated  workforce, and  the union  is  asking for  that                                                               
change.  State jobs  have  merely become  a  training ground  for                                                               
employees. Once skills are acquired,  newly trained employees and                                                               
their  mobile 401(k)s  leave for  better positions  outside state                                                               
employment.  The state  is  failing itself  by  not offering  the                                                               
wages  and  benefits to  retain  qualified  workers and  allowing                                                               
monies invested in skilled workers to walk out the door.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. ADAMS said  in closing that the state of  Alaska has lost its                                                               
ability to be a serious  contender in an increasingly competitive                                                               
marketplace, resulting in  the inability to bring  on a qualified                                                               
workforce. He  said the incoming  infrastructure funds  will lead                                                               
to an increase  in the demand for  qualified blue-collar workers.                                                               
He said  that if these issues  are not fixed soon,  the state may                                                               
be unable  to fix  them. Public  safety cannot  respond, airports                                                               
close  during   storms,  people  cannot  commute   to  work,  and                                                               
emergency services  are impacted  without a stable  workforce. He                                                               
thanked  the committee  for its  time and  asked members  to talk                                                               
with  their colleagues  to  find a  retirement  solution for  all                                                               
public employees.                                                                                                               

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 88 Supporting Documents-ACSA Presentation to SL&C-Work Force Challenges 03.15.23.pdf SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 44 ver S.PDF SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 5/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 44
SB 88 Suporting Documents-Edward Siedle - bio and articles.pdf SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 44 Sponsor Statement 02.02.23.pdf SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 5/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 44
SB 88 Supporting Documents-ACSA 2023 Joint Positions Statement.pdf SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 44 Sectional Analysis ver S 03.14.23.pdf SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 5/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 44
SB 88 Supporting Documents-ACSA Presentation to SL&C-Work Force Challenges 03.15.23.pdf SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 44 Explanation of Changes ver B to S 03-06-23.pdf SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 5/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 44
SB 44 Fiscal Note-DPS-SWS-03.02.23.pdf SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 5/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 44
SB 44 Fiscal Note-DCCED-CBPL-03.03.23.pdf SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 5/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 44
SB 44 Naturopathic Medicine Presentation.pdf SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 5/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 44
SB 44 Supporting Document Prescriptive Authority.pdf SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 5/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 44
SB 44 Supporting Document - Comparison.pdf SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 5/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 44
SB 44 Supporting Document FAQs.pdf SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 5/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 44
SB 88 ver B.PDF SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 44 Public Testimony-Emails as of 03.14.23.pdf SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 5/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 44
SB 88 Sponsor Statement ver B.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 44 Public Testimony-Letters as of 03.14.23.pdf SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 5/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 44
SB 88 Sectional Analysis ver B 3.10.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Presentation to SL&C 3.13.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Letters of Opposition - Received as of 3.7.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Letters of Support - Received as of 3.10.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Repealed Sections ver B.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Research AK Educator Turnover Infographic 3.10.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
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SB 88 Research 2017 ISER cost of teacher turnover 3.10.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Research APFO Recruitment and Retention Report 3.10.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
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SB 88 Research DB v DC comparison DOA presentation to Sen Fin 3.10.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
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SB 88 Research DPS - Cost to Replace a State Trooper - 3.10.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
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SB 88 Research DPS Employee Engagement Survey Results 3.10.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
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SB 88 Research DPS Recruitment-Retention Plan Overview 3.10.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Research FFD Cost of hiring from Scott Raygor Fire Chief Fairbanks 3.10.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
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SB 88 Research Legislative Finance Division Research Report on Retirement System 3.10.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Research NIRS Teacher Retirement Plan Offerings March 2022 3.10.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
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SB 88 Research PERS Tier chart 3.10.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Research Returning Alaska State Employees to Social Security 3.10.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Research Risk Sharing in Public Retirement Plans NASRA 3.10.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
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SB 88 Research TRS Tier chart 3.10.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Summary Table Version B 3.10.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
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SB 88 News Articles 3.10.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/15/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/20/2023 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 3/22/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 88
SB 88 Research Alaska Public Pension Coalition White Paper 2010 3.10.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
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SB 88 Fiscal Note-DOA-DRB-03.03.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
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SB 88
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SB 88
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SB 88
SB 88 Research (pg 5) Defined Benefit Total Funded Status DOA to SFIN 2.14.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
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SB 88
SB 88 Research OCS Staff Departure 2.23.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
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SB 88
SB 88 REVISED_Summary Table Ver B 3.12.23.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
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SB 88
SB 88 Research Actuarial Report from HB 55 (plus all other public employees) 01.18.21.pdf SL&C 3/13/2023 1:30:00 PM
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