Legislature(2023 - 2024)SENATE FINANCE 532

03/13/2024 01:30 PM Senate FINANCE

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01:38:04 PM SB118
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                 SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                      March 13, 2024                                                                                            
                         1:37 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:37:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson  called the Senate Finance  Committee meeting                                                                    
to order at 1:37 p.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Donny Olson, Co-Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Bert Stedman, Co-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Click Bishop                                                                                                            
Senator Jesse Kiehl                                                                                                             
Senator Kelly Merrick                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyman Hoffman, Co-Chair                                                                                                 
Senator David Wilson                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO, PRESENT                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Kelly  Merrick,   Sponsor;  Kerry  Crocker,  Staff,                                                                    
Senator Kelly Merrick.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Lance  Miller, Vice  President of  Natural Resources,  NANA,                                                                    
Anchorage; Karen Matthias,  Executive Director, Alaska Metal                                                                    
Mines,  Anchorage;  Melanie  Werdon, Director,  Division  of                                                                    
Geological  and Geophysical  Survey,  Department of  Natural                                                                    
Resources, Fairbanks;  Sandra Moller, Director,  Division of                                                                    
Community  and  Regional  Affairs, Department  of  Commerce,                                                                    
Community and Economic Development, Anchorage.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SB 118    CRITICAL NATURAL RESOURCES; REPORTS                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
          SB 118 was HEARD and HELD in committee for                                                                            
          further consideration.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 118                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act relating  to critical  and essential  minerals                                                                    
     and the global energy transition."                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:38:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KELLY MERRICK, SPONSOR, introduced the legislation.                                                                     
She read from the Sponsor Statement (copy on file):                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Critical and  essential minerals comprise a  wide range                                                                    
     of  elements,  including   lithium,  copper,  platinum,                                                                    
     zinc,   and  more.   These  minerals   are  fundamental                                                                    
     components of much of  today's everyday equipment, like                                                                    
     computers  and   household  appliances.  To   keep  our                                                                    
     economy  and our  day-to-day lives  moving forward,  we                                                                    
     need  to ensure  we  have a  plan  for accessing  these                                                                    
     crucial resources  as their demand increases.  More and                                                                    
     more renewable  energy sources require  components made                                                                    
     of these materials  as well, and that  demand is likely                                                                    
     to  increase,  possibly   exponentially.  Critical  and                                                                    
     essential minerals are key  elements of emerging energy                                                                    
     technologies, ranging  from electric vehicles  to solar                                                                    
     panels.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     The strategic  plans that  come out  of SB  118 analyze                                                                    
     the  impacts  of  different  regulatory  frameworks  on                                                                    
     mineral  development,  and include  considerations  for                                                                    
     economic  viability, environmental  sustainability, and                                                                    
     efficient production processes.  Alaska's commitment to                                                                    
     advancing   renewable   energy   is   pivotal   for   a                                                                    
     sustainable future and our  commitment to production of                                                                    
     critical minerals is pivotal for our own economy.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Senate Bill  118 is  a forward-looking  initiative that                                                                    
     recognizes  the  critical  role   Alaska  can  play  in                                                                    
     advancing   the   global  energy   transition   through                                                                    
     industry and resources that  have played such important                                                                    
     roles in our state's past and present.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:40:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KERRY CROCKER, STAFF, SENATOR KELLY MERRICK, discussed the                                                                      
Sectional Analysis (copy on file):                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section  1: Adds  a new  section to  uncodified law  to                                                                  
     produce three reports:                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     1. The  Office of  the Governor  shall generate  a plan                                                                    
     for   the   exploration,  production,   refining,   and                                                                    
     development of critical and  essential minerals used in                                                                    
     emerging technology.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     2. The  Department of  Natural Resources  shall compare                                                                    
     Alaska's   current  and   potential  critical   mineral                                                                    
     production  to national  and international  production,                                                                    
     including regulation,  permitting, and  incentives. The                                                                    
     report   should   identify   strategies   to   increase                                                                    
     exploration and development over  the next three, five,                                                                    
     and ten years.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     3. The Department of  Commerce, Community, and Economic                                                                    
     Development   shall  identify   the  state's   role  in                                                                    
     innovation,   manufacturing,   and  transportation   to                                                                    
     support the global green energy transition.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:41:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LANCE  MILLER, VICE  PRESIDENT OF  NATURAL RESOURCES,  NANA,                                                                    
ANCHORAGE (via teleconference),  discussed the presentation,                                                                    
"Framing  Alaska's  Role  in the  Critical  Minerals  Space"                                                                    
(copy on file).  He pointed  to slide 2, "Demand for Metals:                                                                    
The global population will drive much of the demand":                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     After  over  7,000  years   metals  are  again  (still)                                                                    
     important!                                                                                                                 
     And now the national aspiration for more renewables.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Miller suggested that the  global population alone would                                                                    
drive  much of  the demand  for  metals. He  pointed to  the                                                                    
right side of the slide which  chowed a bar graph of various                                                                    
metals. He shared  that oil was a  relatively new extraction                                                                    
when compared to  metals. He noted that in the  last few 100                                                                    
years the  earth had  added billions  of people.  He pointed                                                                    
out   that  Millennials   have  outnumbered   Baby  Boomers;                                                                    
Generation Alpha  has outnumbered  Millennials. He  spoke of                                                                    
the  increase of  resource  use as  work  continued to  move                                                                    
populations out of poverty.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:43:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Miller  displayed slide 3, "Mining  Activity in Alaska."                                                                    
The slide  contained a map  of the state with  indicators of                                                                    
the various mining  activities in Alaska. He  stated that if                                                                    
The  United States  were to  use the  same density  of Metal                                                                    
mines  as  British  Columbia, Alaska  would  have  18  metal                                                                    
mines.  He stressed  that Alaska  has a  high potential  for                                                                    
geological prospectivity.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Miller  highlighted slide 4,  "How long  it takes?.18-20                                                                    
years to build  a mine and? -for  every 1000-3000 prospects,                                                                    
less than 2 percent go  to prefeasibility." He noted that it                                                                    
can take decades to build a  mine. He thought that the graph                                                                    
highlighted  the technical  aspects  from prefeasibility  to                                                                    
fruition of a mine.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Miller discussed  slide  5, "Now  there  are more  cell                                                                    
phones  than people  in the  world  (Consumer driven)."  The                                                                    
slide showed a model of one  of the first cell phone designs                                                                    
and a to-date  Apple cell phone with a  periodic table under                                                                    
each  phone indicating  the metals  used in  each. He  noted                                                                    
that the  smartphones of today  use twice the metals  as the                                                                    
older version. He contended that  as technology advanced the                                                                    
demand for metals will increase.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:46:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Miller  pointed  to slide  6,  "Critical  Minerals  and                                                                    
Energy  Transition (Consumer  uptake  is  slow)." The  slide                                                                    
illustrated the number of metals  necessary in electric cars                                                                    
versus conventional cars. He said  that the projected amount                                                                    
of copper needed in the next  25 years has been mined in the                                                                    
history of copper mining.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:47:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Miller addressed slide 7,  "Red Dog: A Critical Minerals                                                                    
Mine (Zn-Pb-Ag-Ge)":                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     "With zinc added to the list of minerals and metals                                                                        
     critical to the U.S., world-class mine in Northwest                                                                        
     Alaska is now top dog.                                                                                                     
     -North of 60 Mining News March 4, 2022                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
He noted that the metals mined  at the Red Dog mine included                                                                    
zinc,  lead,  silver,  and germanium.  He  shared  that  the                                                                    
global demand  for germanium consumption was  30 tons, which                                                                    
made it a strategic mineral.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:47:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Miller pointed  to  slide  8, "Many  CM  and REE's  are                                                                    
Byproducts of Major Metal Production   they are not economic                                                                    
to mine in their own right."                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:48:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Miller   discussed  slide  9,  "The   BRI  and  China's                                                                    
International  Trade." The  slide  showed a  map of  Chinas                                                                     
major  BRI overland  and  maritime  corridors. Chinas.   The                                                                    
slide stated that 60 percent  of critical mineral processing                                                                    
is in China.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:49:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Miller  highlighted  slide 10,  "Considerations  Moving                                                                    
Ahead":                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Domestic     metal    production,     processing    and                                                                    
     manufacturing  is not  ready  to accommodate  projected                                                                    
     demand (project  pipeline is small and  lead times long                                                                    
     due   to   metals    cycles,   permitting,   logistics,                                                                    
     financing, workforce, social pressures)                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska  has mineral  resource  potential  yet it  needs                                                                    
     more  focused   exploration  and  research   to  define                                                                    
     deposits.  A second  step is  to define  the processing                                                                    
     opportunity/capability.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     New  federal policies/financing/subsidies  are required                                                                    
     to meet  the audacious  metal demand  goals (if  the US                                                                    
     wants a secure domestic supply chain).                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska needs a Critical Minerals Strategy                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:50:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Miller looked at slide 11:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     "mining   is  not   everything,   but  without   mining                                                                    
     everything is nothing.                                                                                                     
          -Max Plank; Nobel prize winner in physics and                                                                         
         known as the originator of quantum theory                                                                              
Mr. Miller thanked the committee for their time.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:51:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson recalled  that there was a  rare earth metals                                                                    
deposit in Southeast  Alaska and wondered whether  it was on                                                                    
the map on slide 3.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:51:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Miller  replied that the  deposit in Bokan  Mountain was                                                                    
not on  the map. He said  that mines on the  map were either                                                                    
being produced or had completed a prefeasibility study.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:52:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Olson  asked  whether  the  mountain  contained  a                                                                    
significant deposit.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:52:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Miller responded  that he could not speak  to the market                                                                    
about the elements in the deposit.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:52:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KAREN  MATTHIAS,  EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR, ALASKA  METAL  MINES,                                                                    
ANCHORAGE  (via teleconference),  spoke  in  support of  the                                                                    
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:57:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson noted that there were two fiscal notes.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:57:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MELANIE  WERDON,   DIRECTOR,  DIVISION  OF   GEOLOGICAL  AND                                                                    
GEOPHYSICAL   SURVEY,  DEPARTMENT   OF  NATURAL   RESOURCES,                                                                    
FAIRBANKS  (via teleconference),  explained the  fiscal note                                                                    
from the Department of Natural Resources (DNR).                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:58:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SANDRA MOLLER, DIRECTOR, DIVISION  OF COMMUNITY AND REGIONAL                                                                    
AFFAIRS,  DEPARTMENT  OF  COMMERCE, COMMUNITY  AND  ECONOMIC                                                                    
DEVELOPMENT, ANCHORAGE  (via teleconference),  explained the                                                                    
fiscal note from the Department of Commerce, Community and                                                                      
Economic Development (DCCED).                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:59:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson OPENED and CLOSED public testimony.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:00:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bishop cited the current report from the Alaska                                                                         
Minerals Commission and stressed the need for a                                                                                 
comprehensive mineral development plan.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SB 118 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                              
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
2:01:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 2:01 p.m.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 118 Sponsor Statement 2.1.24.pdf SFIN 3/13/2024 1:30:00 PM
SRES 2/2/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 118
SB118 Supporting Document - 2022 U.S. Net Import Reliance.pdf SFIN 3/13/2024 1:30:00 PM
SRES 2/2/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 118
SB 118 Sectional Analysis 2.1.24.pdf SFIN 3/13/2024 1:30:00 PM
SRES 2/2/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 118
SB 118 Senate Finance March 13 2024 final.pdf SFIN 3/13/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 118
SB 118 Supporting Document - 2022 Critical Minerals List.pdf SFIN 3/13/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 118
SB 118 Presentation 2.1.24.pdf SFIN 3/13/2024 1:30:00 PM
SRES 2/2/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 118
SB 118 Letter of Support for SB 118 - Critical and Essential Mineral Reporting.pdf SFIN 3/13/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 118