Legislature(2009 - 2010)SENATE FINANCE 532

03/17/2010 01:30 PM FINANCE


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01:33:06 PM Start
01:34:35 PM SB230 || SB253
02:54:19 PM Adjourn
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+= SB 230 BUDGET: CAPITAL, SUPP. & OTHER APPROPS TELECONFERENCED
+= SB 253 APPROP: DEFERRED MAINTENANCE/REPLACEMENT TELECONFERENCED
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
SENATE BILL NO. 230                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act making and amending appropriations, including                                                                      
     capital appropriations, supplemental appropriations,                                                                       
     and other appropriations; making appropriations to                                                                         
     capitalize funds; and providing for an effective                                                                           
     date."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 253                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act making capital appropriations for deferred                                                                         
     maintenance projects, equipment replacement, and                                                                           
     emergency repairs; and providing for an effective                                                                          
     date."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:34:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE, COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
JO  ELLEN   HANRAHAN,  DIRECTOR,   ADMINISTRATIVE  SERVICES,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE,  COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT,                                                                    
stated  that there  was no  deferred maintenance  budget for                                                                    
the  department.  She  turned to  the  department's  capital                                                                    
projects list.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
RN 49127                                                                                                                        
     Denali Commission Federal-State Partnership Grant                                                                          
     $3,000,000 AIDEA Div                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Hanrahan  commented that the request  is a demonstration                                                                    
of a  valuable partnership for  the state. The grant  can be                                                                    
used on any of the programs within the Denali Commission.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
RN 38950                                                                                                                        
     Alaska Energy Authority Energy Projects                                                                                    
     $16,000,000 Fed Rcpts                                                                                                      
     $10,000,000 AIDEA Div                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Hanrahan  noted that the  request dates back to  FY 1997                                                                    
and funds a  number of programs such as  Bulk Fuel Upgrades,                                                                    
Rural   Power  System   Upgrades,  Alternative   Energy  and                                                                    
Efficiency Projects,  the Renewable Energy Project,  and the                                                                    
state-funded Energy Planning Project.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Egan  asked  why the  Alaska  Capital  Income  Fund                                                                    
request  appears  in  FY  2012,  but not  in  FY  2011.  Ms.                                                                    
Hanrahan explained that the fund source can change.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman added  that  the  legislature often  makes                                                                    
fund  source  changes. Senator  Egan  pointed  out that  the                                                                    
totals were the same, but the sources were different.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:38:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RN 45662                                                                                                                        
     Alaska Climate Change Impact Mitigation Program                                                                            
     $500,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Hanrahan  pointed out that  the request is in  line with                                                                    
the   Climate    Change   Immediate   Action    work   group                                                                    
recommendations that  were published  in March of  2009. The                                                                    
funds will  continue to provide  grant funding  for planning                                                                    
assistance to  imminently threatened communities.  They will                                                                    
be  used  to  do  hazard impact  assessment  mini-grants  of                                                                    
$50,000  for  four  communities  and  to  do  two  community                                                                    
planning grants for $150,000 each.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Egan  asked  it  these funds  could  go  to  Alaska                                                                    
Regional   Development   Organizations  (ARDORs)   such   as                                                                    
Southeast Conference projects. Ms.  Hanrahan said the ARDORs                                                                    
are  already funded  at about  $720,000  and it  would be  a                                                                    
policy decision  to use this grant  money otherwise. Senator                                                                    
Egan  suggested  that the  ARDORs  would  be an  appropriate                                                                    
place for these funds.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
RN 48902                                                                                                                        
     Alaska Visitors Statistics Program                                                                                         
     $500,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Hanrahan referenced  a program begun in  the 80's, which                                                                    
provides a  baseline survey as  visitors exit the  state. It                                                                    
is  the only  comprehensive  source  of visitor  information                                                                    
data  available  to  help  determine  the  effectiveness  of                                                                    
tourism programs and marketing.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman asked  if there  was a  report on  how the                                                                    
funds  should  be  allocated.  Ms.  Hanrahan  explained  the                                                                    
report.  Co-Chair  Hoffman  asked  if  the  2007  report  is                                                                    
available today. Ms. Hanrahan offered to provide a copy.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:42:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RN 48894                                                                                                                        
     Banking and Securities Imaging                                                                                             
     $609,000 Rcpt Svcs                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Hanrahan explained  that  the funds  would  be used  to                                                                    
replace all  hard copy  documentation with  digitized images                                                                    
and  would  allow  documents  to be  shared.  It  would  use                                                                    
current state standards in doing so.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:43:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RN 48815                                                                                                                        
     Community and Regional Affairs System Replacement and                                                                      
     Consolidation                                                                                                              
     $326,000 Rcpt Svcs                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Hanrahan   detailed  that   twelve  systems   would  be                                                                    
consolidated within  the Division of Community  and Regional                                                                    
Affairs.  It would  do away  with a  very large  maintenance                                                                    
cost.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
RN 38943                                                                                                                        
     Community Development and Assistance                                                                                       
     $725,000 Fed Rcpts                                                                                                         
     $307,500 G/F Match                                                                                                         
     $1,153,500 I/A Rcpts                                                                                                       
     $1,000,000 CIP Rcpts                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Hanrahan discussed  the  on-going  grant request  which                                                                    
would encompass several programs  including the Alaska Flood                                                                    
Plain   Erosion  Management   Program,   the  Coastal   Zone                                                                    
Management  Program, Community  Mapping  Effort, and  Alaska                                                                    
Sustainable Salmon Fund Program.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
RN 38946                                                                                                                        
     Community Block Grants                                                                                                     
     $5,900,000 Fed Rcpts                                                                                                       
     $70,000 G/F Match                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Hanrahan explained that it  was a long-term program that                                                                    
provides grants  to communities and non-profits  in order to                                                                    
benefit low-to-moderate income people.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:45:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AMD 47031                                                                                                                       
     Alaska Energy Authority Electrical Emergencies Program                                                                     
     $330,400 Gen Fund                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Hanrahan  explained that it  was the  governor's amended                                                                    
project  to bring  the level  of funding  up to  the current                                                                    
request amount,  which had been  the amount  previously. The                                                                    
funding supports technical assistance during emergencies.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
AMD 38948                                                                                                                       
     NPR-A Impact Grant Program                                                                                                 
     $4,847,165 NPR Fund                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Hanrahan  spoke  of   the  governor's  amendment  which                                                                    
decreased  the  amount of  the  request  from $14.8  million                                                                    
because there are no planned leases this year.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked  if the grants for FY  11 are listed.                                                                    
Ms.  Hanrahan said  they  should  be a  part  of the  budget                                                                    
request.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:47:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RN 48906                                                                                                                        
     Newtok Traditional Council-Newtok Evacuation Shelter                                                                       
     and Access Road                                                                                                            
     $4,000,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Hanrahan   explained  that  the  request   was  also  a                                                                    
suggestion  from the  Climate Change  Immediate Action  work                                                                    
group.  It is  a state  commitment to  help ensure  that the                                                                    
Department of Defense  Innovative Readiness Training Program                                                                    
will continue their work in Alaska.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
RN 41959                                                                                                                        
     Arctic Winter Games Team Alaska-Games Participation                                                                        
     $250,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Hanrahan  turned to this long-standing  appropriation in                                                                    
the  state's budget,  which helps  provide support  for Team                                                                    
Alaska to participate in the Arctic Winter Games.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:48:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RN 38713                                                                                                                        
     Arctic Power                                                                                                               
     $160,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Hanrahan said the purpose  was to provide funding to aid                                                                    
in the opening in the Coastal Plain of ANWAR.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked if  any headway  was being  made. He                                                                    
requested  more information.  Ms.  Hanrahan  said she  would                                                                    
provide that information.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
RN 49171                                                                                                                        
     Covenant House Alaska-Facility Construction                                                                                
     $3,000,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Hanrahan  detailed the program,  which helps  ensure the                                                                    
safety  and success  for at-risk  youth, of  which about  60                                                                    
percent are from foster care.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  asked if  the  Covenant  House is  to  be                                                                    
relocated  and  rebuilt.  Ms. Hanrahan  concurred.  Co-Chair                                                                    
Stedman  asked who  owns the  Covenant  House. Ms.  Hanrahan                                                                    
said it  was part  of a statewide  network of  private, non-                                                                    
profit entities.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
RN 46475                                                                                                                        
     The Alaska Community Foundation-Jesse Lee Home                                                                             
     Restoration                                                                                                                
     $1,500,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Hanrahan explained  that the  money  would restore  the                                                                    
Jesse Lee  Home as  a residential charter  leadership school                                                                    
for  high school  youth  for one  semester  of their  junior                                                                    
year.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:52:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Huggins  asked  if  it was  a  charter  school  and                                                                    
wondered  why  it  was  funded  outside  of  the  foundation                                                                    
formula.  Co-Chair  Stedman  asked for  information  on  the                                                                    
maintenance  of  that  facility.  Ms.  Hanrahan  offered  to                                                                    
provide the  information. She pointed  out that in  2001 the                                                                    
legislature passed  HB 96 which  related to  acquisition and                                                                    
development of the Jesse Lee Home.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:54:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RN 49590                                                                                                                        
     Alaska Partnership for Economic Development-Alaska                                                                         
     Forward Initiative                                                                                                         
     $100,000 AIDEA Div                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Hanrahan noted  that the  ARDORs are  included in  this                                                                    
organization. The initiative is  composed of two phases, the                                                                    
first of which has been completed.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
RN 41956                                                                                                                        
     Municipality of Anchorage: Port of Anchorage Expansion                                                                     
     $10,000,000 AHCC Rcpts                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Hanrahan  reported on the request  by sharing statistics                                                                    
related to  the project.  The total cost  of the  project is                                                                    
about $350 million to $400 million.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:56:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RN 47718                                                                                                                        
     Cruise Ship Related Projects                                                                                               
     $21,910,000 CPV Tax                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Hanrahan related  information about  allocations within                                                                    
this  appropriation:  Haines,   Hoonah,  Juneau,  Ketchikan,                                                                    
Petersburg, Sitka, Skagway, and Wrangell.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Thomas  asked how much  was available in  the cruise                                                                    
ship passenger  fund. Ms. Hanrahan said  there was estimated                                                                    
to  be a  balance in  FY  10 of  $20 million,  of that,  $30                                                                    
million  would be  in the  commercial  passenger vessel  tax                                                                    
account  and $10  million would  be in  the regional  cruise                                                                    
ship impact fund.  For FY 11 it is estimated  that the total                                                                    
available balance  will be $28  million, with  $29.4 million                                                                    
in  the commercial  passenger vessel  tax  account and  $9.8                                                                    
million  in the  regional cruise  ship impact  fund. Senator                                                                    
Thomas asked what projects the money would go toward.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  reported on  meetings with  the Department                                                                    
of  Law  defining  the  projects  that  could  qualify.  The                                                                    
committee will be working more on this area.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:58:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Thomas  referred back  to  RN  48894. He  asked  if                                                                    
documents  would be  electronically kept  from this  time on                                                                    
into the  future. Ms. Hanrahan requested  clarification. She                                                                    
said she  could provide  that information  as it  applies to                                                                    
banking  and  securities.  Co-Chair Stedman  requested  that                                                                    
information be sent to his office.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Huggins  asked about the  relationship of  RN 47718,                                                                    
cruise ship  related projects, and  RN 48521,  Juneau cruise                                                                    
ship dock  replacement. Ms. Hanrahan said  the projects were                                                                    
allocations from the $21 million appropriation.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:01:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ERIC SWANSON, DIRECTOR,  ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES, DEPARTMENT                                                                    
OF  ADMINISTRATION, noted  one deferred  maintenance request                                                                    
that has been split into two separate allocations.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DM AMD RN 49602                                                                                                                 
     Statewide Deferred Maintenance Projects                                                                                    
     $7,250,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     DM AMD 49216                                                                                                               
     Facilities Deferred Maintenance                                                                                            
     $4,250,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     DM RN 49387                                                                                                                
     State of Alaska Telecommunication System Deferred                                                                          
     Maintenance                                                                                                                
     $3,000,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Swanson discussed  the Facilities  Deferred Maintenance                                                                    
request,  which is  for work  on seven  buildings, including                                                                    
the Governor's  Mansion, that are managed  by the Department                                                                    
of Administration.  He listed the  projects included  in the                                                                    
allocation.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:04:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman asked  about  the cost  of renovating  the                                                                    
Governor's Mansion and  requested a copy of  that report. He                                                                    
suggested  that the  building be  upgraded  to its  original                                                                    
state. Mr. Swanson agreed to provide the report.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked if the  Wickersham House was included                                                                    
on the list. Mr. Swanson said  it was not a facility that is                                                                    
managed  by  the  department. Co-Chair  Stedman  argued  for                                                                    
including it.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Swanson discussed the  State of Alaska Telecommunication                                                                    
System  Deferred  Maintenance  allocation,  which  is  often                                                                    
referred  to  as the  SAT  System.  The  SAT System  is  not                                                                    
currently  connected  by fiber  or  satellite.  There are  a                                                                    
number of repair projects included in the request.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:07:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Swanson moved on to the capital projects.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
RN 47053                                                                                                                        
     Alaska Public Offices Commission Electronic Filing                                                                         
     System                                                                                                                     
     $600,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Swanson  explained that  the  request  is in  order  to                                                                    
complete  the  public   official  financial  disclosure  and                                                                    
legislative financial  disclosure module of the  project. He                                                                    
provided  the history  of the  project. The  lobbyist module                                                                    
has been completed. The request  is for the second module in                                                                    
the  system and  should be  completed  by FY  11. The  third                                                                    
module  is  for  campaign  disclosure  and  is  planned  for                                                                    
completion in FY 12.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman asked  what format  the information  would                                                                    
take  when the  modules are  finished. Mr.  Swanson reported                                                                    
that the underlying  goals of the project  are to streamline                                                                    
the filing process and to improve public access.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:10:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RACHAEL   PETRO,   DEPUTY    COMMISSIONER,   DEPARTMENT   OF                                                                    
ADMINISTRATION  (via   teleconference),  addressed  Co-Chair                                                                    
Stedman's  question. She  said  it  was complicated  because                                                                    
each module has specific  requirements. She stressed that an                                                                    
attempt was  being made to make  it as easy as  possible for                                                                    
filers.  She offered  to provide  more specific  information                                                                    
later.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman noted the cumbersome  changes on the forms.                                                                    
He  suggested the  system could  be more  user friendly  and                                                                    
could  be computer  generated. He  requested feedback  about                                                                    
what the  department intends  to use  for the  final output.                                                                    
Ms. Petro  said she shared  that frustration and  offered to                                                                    
provide more information. Co-Chair  Stedman commented on the                                                                    
importance  of   the  information  and   repercussions  from                                                                    
errors.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:14:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RN 45395                                                                                                                        
     Alaska License and Vehicle Information System                                                                              
     $8,500,000 Rcpt Svcs                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Swanson  spoke  of  the system  that  DMV  uses,  often                                                                    
referred  to as  ALVIN. The  entire system  is outdated  and                                                                    
needs to be replaced.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
RN 49391                                                                                                                        
     Anchorage Data Center Design Support and Migration                                                                         
     Planning                                                                                                                   
     $1,300,000 Info Svc                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Swanson explained  that the  funding  would enable  the                                                                    
department to  begin engineering  and migration  planning to                                                                    
move the Anchorage Data Center  from its present location by                                                                    
December 11,  2011. He  provided a  description of  the Data                                                                    
Center and the need for  a temporary location while ensuring                                                                    
minimal outages of services.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RN 49217                                                                                                                        
     Enterprise Technology Services Infrastructure Upgrades                                                                     
     and Support                                                                                                                
     $3,700,000 Info Svc                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Swanson reported  that the  funding would  be used  for                                                                    
upgrade  and  support  of  the  ETS  infrastructure  in  two                                                                    
separate projects.  The first  project would  provide secure                                                                    
access  to the  digital telephone  equipment rooms,  and the                                                                    
second project is to replace and consolidate servers.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:18:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RN 47058                                                                                                                        
     Facilities Deferred Maintenance.                                                                                           
     $3,000,000 Public Bldg                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Swanson  discussed  the  department's  regular,  annual                                                                    
deferred maintenance needs for  eleven facilities. The money                                                                    
for the request comes from rent charged in the facilities.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:19:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RN 49211                                                                                                                        
     Retirement and Benefits Document Management System                                                                         
     $163,700 Ben Sys                                                                                                           
     $213,200 P/E Retire                                                                                                        
     $89,000 Teach Ret                                                                                                          
     $2,200 Jud Retire                                                                                                          
     $6,900 Nat Guard                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Swanson referred  to the  request  which would  migrate                                                                    
microfilm records  and documents into digital  form. The new                                                                    
system   would   provide    better   research   and   search                                                                    
capabilities and storage.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
RN 45400                                                                                                                        
     Combined Retirement System Upgrade                                                                                         
     $137,700 Ben Sys                                                                                                           
     $179,700 P/E Retire                                                                                                        
     $75,000 Teach Ret                                                                                                          
     $1,800 Jud Retire                                                                                                          
     $5,800 Nat Guard                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Swanson spoke  of  the  need to  continue  to fund  the                                                                    
retirement system  so that retirees can  more readily access                                                                    
information.  It also  improves  the ability  to search  and                                                                    
retrieve data.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:21:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RN 49392                                                                                                                        
     Alaska Rural Communications Service Digital Conversion                                                                     
     Planning                                                                                                                   
     $50,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Swanson reported that the  request is necessary in order                                                                    
to comply with a FCC mandate.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:23:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DAN SPENCER,  DIRECTOR, ADMINISTRATIVE  SERVICES, DEPARTMENT                                                                    
OF  PUBLIC  SAFETY,  highlighted  one  deferred  maintenance                                                                    
project.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DM RN 41788                                                                                                                     
     Statewide   Facilities    Maintenance,   Repairs,   and                                                                    
     Improvements                                                                                                               
     $1,350,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer reported  that within  the allocation  are five                                                                    
projects:   Anchorage  Aircraft   Hanger,  Bethel   Aircraft                                                                    
Hanger,  Fairbanks Facility,  Kodiak  Hanger, and  Ketchikan                                                                    
Post. All  have significant deferred maintenance  issues. If                                                                    
something else  requires emergency repair, it  will be given                                                                    
priority.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer turned to capital project requests.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
RN 41600                                                                                                                        
     Crime Lab Replacement                                                                                                      
     $75,750,000 COPs                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer suggested that Mr. Dym could answer questions.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:25:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked about operational  costs of the crime                                                                    
lab, such as  how many additional employees  will be needed.                                                                    
He also  requested more information about  unfinished square                                                                    
footage.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ORIN  DYM,  CRIME  LAB   SUPERVISOR,  DEPARTMENT  OF  PUBLIC                                                                    
SAFETY, described  the details of the  crime lab replacement                                                                    
which are  designed to  meet the current  needs of  the lab.                                                                    
One  additional maintenance  position  will  be needed.  The                                                                    
department  does   have  a   10-year  plan   for  additional                                                                    
positions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Dym  explained that the  square footage of  the building                                                                    
is  84,000  gross  square  feet   of  which  19  percent  is                                                                    
unfinished space to  allow for future growth.  There will be                                                                    
45,000 square  feet of laboratory  space, 6,000  square feet                                                                    
of  evidence  storage  space,  mechanical  space,  hallways,                                                                    
bathrooms, and classrooms. The size  of the laboratory space                                                                    
is doubled  in the new building  and there is space  for new                                                                    
technology in the future.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman suggested cutting  the square footage by 20                                                                    
percent and  dealing with an  expansion later. Mr.  Dym said                                                                    
that would have  required a redesigning of  the building and                                                                    
would have cost more.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:29:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MATT  TANAKA,  FACILITIES,   DEPARTMENT  OF  PUBLIC  SAFETY,                                                                    
addressed Co-Chair  Stedman's question. He gave  reasons why                                                                    
building  a smaller  footprint would  be more  expensive. It                                                                    
would  necessitate  a redesign  and  a  two-year delay.  The                                                                    
method of shelling lab space saves money.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  questioned  why   there  was  a  need  to                                                                    
redesign  the  whole  project.   Mr.  Tanaka  explained  the                                                                    
complexities of the laboratory design.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Huggins  addressed the lack of  flexibility. Mr. Dym                                                                    
explained that the term flexibility  referred to the ability                                                                    
to expand for future use.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Huggins asked how much  it would cost to expand over                                                                    
the  next ten  years.  Mr. Tanaka  shared  cost details.  To                                                                    
finish shell  space would cost  substantially less  than $20                                                                    
million.  The farther  into the  future, the  more potential                                                                    
for escalation costs.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:35:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman asked  about the  impact on  the operating                                                                    
account  regarding maintenance  costs. Mr.  Dym referred  to                                                                    
page 26  of a legislative  brief and stated that  the annual                                                                    
energy cost of  the new laboratory is  about $412,000, which                                                                    
is  about   2.7  times  higher   than  the   existing  crime                                                                    
laboratory.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer   thanked  the  legislature  for   last  year's                                                                    
appropriation for the crime lab design.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
RN 41544                                                                                                                        
     Alaska Public Safety Information Network Redesign,                                                                         
     Year 3 of 3-Year Plan, Replace Federal Funds                                                                               
     $1,000,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  related that  the project  has been  around for                                                                    
over ten  years. He  pointed out  that the  criminal history                                                                    
repository  is used  by every  law enforcement  operation in                                                                    
the state,  as well as  by those  who need to  do background                                                                    
checks.  The  department  is  about  $2  million  away  from                                                                    
finishing  the project.  There is  concern about  losing the                                                                    
current level of expertise if  the project is not funded. He                                                                    
described  the  complexities of  the  project,  such as  DMV                                                                    
interfacing.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:39:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RN 37774                                                                                                                        
     Alaska State Trooper Law Enforcement Equipment                                                                             
     Replacement                                                                                                                
     $500,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer  discussed  the annual  request  for  funds  to                                                                    
replace equipment,  such as  digital recorders  and cameras,                                                                    
radar equipment, office furniture, ATV's, etc.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
RN 6121                                                                                                                         
     Aircraft and Vessel Repair and Maintenance                                                                                 
     $850,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer  spoke  of  the need  for  funding  for  annual                                                                    
repairs and maintenance of 40  aircraft and about 18 vessels                                                                    
over  25 feet.  The  intent  is to  split  the funding  into                                                                    
$200,000  toward aircraft  repairs and  $650,000 toward  one                                                                    
vessel,  an   open  ocean   boat  in   need  of   an  engine                                                                    
replacement.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RN 45300                                                                                                                        
     Alaska Wildlife Trooper Law Enforcement Equipment                                                                          
     Replacement                                                                                                                
     $500,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer detailed the request as an annual need.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked why the  amount is not $950,000 as it                                                                    
appears in  the FY  12 request.  Mr. Spencer  explained that                                                                    
what is needed depends on  the condition of older equipment.                                                                    
The projection is for the worst-case scenario.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:43:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  referred to  page 10  and asked  about the                                                                    
replacement of the engine in  the patrol vessel. He wondered                                                                    
if the  work would be  done in  Alaska. Mr. Spencer  did not                                                                    
know,   but  noted   that  there   was  an   Alaskan  bidder                                                                    
preference. Co-Chair  Stedman spoke  of the  fishing fleet's                                                                    
ability to have engines  replaced instate. He requested more                                                                    
information  about the  department's  bid  process for  this                                                                    
type of work.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman asked  if  the  department has  considered                                                                    
Alaskan preference on similar  projects. Mr. Spencer said it                                                                    
has.  He  added  that  there  is  often  a  time  constraint                                                                    
involved.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:45:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked  if there was money in  the budget to                                                                    
maintain the  mosquito fleet. Mr.  Spencer reported  that if                                                                    
there  is a  significant repair  to  be done,  some of  this                                                                    
funding may be  used if it is a higher  priority. He gave an                                                                    
example.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked if  there is  enough money  for both                                                                    
repairs and  fuel for coverage  of rural areas. He  spoke of                                                                    
pressure on  Fish and Game  boats to cover rural  areas. Mr.                                                                    
Spencer spoke  of the patrol  vessel Enforcer  which patrols                                                                    
throughout   Southeast  Alaska.   Co-Chair  Stedman   voiced                                                                    
concern over needing more law  enforcement presence in sport                                                                    
fishing  and   subsistence  fishing  areas  so   as  not  to                                                                    
negatively impact fisheries.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:48:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  asked how  many  aircraft  need repair.  Mr.                                                                    
Spencer offered  to provide that information.  Senator Olson                                                                    
knew  of two  accidents and  wondered what  the consequences                                                                    
were. Mr. Spencer needed to  find out more information about                                                                    
the accidents.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:51:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RN 45337                                                                                                                        
     Alaska State Trooper Mobile Data Computers - Phase 3                                                                       
     $250,000 Gen fund                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer  explained  that  the   request  would  buy  39                                                                    
computers in  order to allow  troopers to take  their office                                                                    
with them.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
RN 49207                                                                                                                        
     Video Judicial Conference/Arraignment Study                                                                                
     $100,000                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer  shared  information about  the  request  which                                                                    
would allow  the department to  study the  technology needed                                                                    
in  order to  use  web-based video  conferencing instead  of                                                                    
doing prisoner  transports. The intention  is to  save money                                                                    
and time.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Egan  asked if the  courts were doing  this already.                                                                    
Mr.  Spencer replied  that there  was one  video arraignment                                                                    
system but it has a  dedicated line. This request would make                                                                    
use  of the  web. Senator  Egan asked  if it  could be  done                                                                    
wireless in  the patrol vehicle. Mr.  Spencer explained that                                                                    
it  would  be  point  to  point  orientation.  Senator  Egan                                                                    
thought  that  this  was  how  Anchorage  dealt  with  court                                                                    
reporting. Mr.  Spencer said that the  department works with                                                                    
the Department  of Law, the  Department of  Corrections, and                                                                    
the Court System.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:54:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RN 45325                                                                                                                        
     Crime laboratory Equipment Replacement                                                                                     
     $86,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer talked about the  need to replace specific crime                                                                    
lab equipment.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
RN 35825                                                                                                                        
     Marine Fisheries Patrol Improvements                                                                                       
     $1,500,000 Fed Rcpts                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer concluded that the  request is an on-going joint                                                                    
enforcement   agreement  with   National  Marine   Fisheries                                                                    
Service. It funds positions and equipment.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SB  230  was  heard  and   HELD  in  Committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SB  253  was  heard  and   HELD  in  Committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                

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