Legislature(2023 - 2024)BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)

04/09/2024 01:30 PM Senate COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS

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+= HCR 8 HONORING VIETNAM WAR VETERANS TELECONFERENCED
Moved HCR 8 Out of Committee
*+ SJR 20 WEATHER OBSERVING SYSTEM STATION OUTAGES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
        SJR 20-WEATHER OBSERVING SYSTEM STATION OUTAGES                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:37:54 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR   DUNBAR  reconvened   the   meeting   and  announced   the                                                               
consideration  of  SENATE  JOINT  RESOLUTION NO.  20  Urging  the                                                               
United States  Congress to address  outages of  Automated Weather                                                               
Observing System stations and  Automated Surface Observing System                                                               
stations occurring in the state.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This is  the introductory hearing  of SJR 20, which  is sponsored                                                               
by  the  Senate Community  and  Regional  Affairs Committee.  The                                                               
intent  is to  hear  invited  and public  testimony  and set  the                                                               
resolution aside. He invited Ms. Wiggins to introduce SJR 20.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:38:19 PM                                                                                                                    
ARIELLE  WIGGIN,  Staff,  Senator Forrest  Dunbar,  Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, Juneau, Alaska,  introduced SJR 20 on  behalf of the                                                               
Senate Community and Regional Affairs  Committee. She stated that                                                               
SJR  20  urges  Congress  to  rectify  shortcomings  in  Alaska's                                                               
weather  observation systems.  She emphasized  that more  than 80                                                               
percent of  Alaska's communities are  not accessible by  road and                                                               
highlighted  that Alaska  is the  most sparsely  populated state.                                                               
She  noted that  critical weather  observation systems  are often                                                               
disrupted or absent in essential  areas and stated that equipment                                                               
used  in  the   Lower  48  is  inadequate   for  Alaska's  unique                                                               
geography. She stressed commitment  to prioritize aviation safety                                                               
in Alaska  and referenced six  fatal commercial  aviation crashes                                                               
in Alaska from 2010 to 2020 where weather was a causal factor.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:39:21 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DUNBAR invited Senator Hughes to speak to the resolution.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:39:32 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  SHELLEY HUGHES,  District M,  Alaska State  Legislature,                                                               
Juneau, Alaska, gave invited testimony  in support of SJR 20. She                                                               
thanked the  committee for sponsoring  SJR 20 since the  time for                                                               
legislators  to  personally  submit legislation  had  ended.  She                                                               
explained  that  federal  transportation   staff  were  aware  of                                                               
[Alaska's  weather  observation  systems] problems  as  early  as                                                               
2018, during  work on the  Federal Aviation  Administration (FAA)                                                               
reauthorization  bill. Efforts  were  made to  address the  issue                                                               
then, but it remains unresolved,  requiring more specific action.                                                               
She  commended  SJR  20  for  clearly  outlining  the  facts  and                                                               
background  information,  crediting   contributions  from  expert                                                               
testifiers.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:40:57 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  HUGHES noted  that  her work  on  food security  brought                                                               
attention  to   the  issue.  The   Transportation  Infrastructure                                                               
Committee  identified weather  observation  system  outages as  a                                                               
cause of  food spoilage  in rural  communities. She  credited Mr.                                                               
Mike Jones  with the  Institute of  Social and  Economic Research                                                               
(ICER)   for   raising   awareness   of   the   problem   through                                                               
presentations,  including   to  the  Airmen's   Association.  She                                                               
highlighted that  language addressing  the issue is  being worked                                                               
on in both the House and Senate in Congress.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGHES stressed  that this  issue  extends beyond  food,                                                               
affecting  passenger  service,  medical  emergencies,  and  cargo                                                               
transport. She emphasized the  importance of Alaska's legislature                                                               
speaking  out,  noting that  Alaska's  reliance  on aviation  for                                                               
community access  is unique. She  stated that  federal delegation                                                               
members have  confirmed that such resolutions  can be influential                                                               
and  expressed  hope that  this  effort  would lead  to  tangible                                                               
solutions in the coming years.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:43:03 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DUNBAR opened public testimony on SJR 20.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:43:26 PM                                                                                                                    
WILL DAY,  Executive Director,  Alaska Air  Carriers Association,                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska,  testified on  the critical need  for reliable                                                               
weather  observation systems,  also  known  as Automated  Weather                                                               
Observation  Systems  (AWOS),  throughout Alaska.  He  emphasized                                                               
their importance  in providing air  service to  rural communities                                                               
beyond  the  road  system,  which  rely  on  aviation  or  marine                                                               
transport  for  essential  services.   He  highlighted  that  air                                                               
transport is  crucial for emergency services,  including medevac,                                                               
urgent  medications, and  essential supplies.  He explained  that                                                               
during poor weather, commercial  air carriers must use instrument                                                               
flight  rules,   which  require  weather  observations   at  both                                                               
departure  and destination  points.  Without functioning  weather                                                               
systems,  flights  cannot  proceed,  potentially  delaying  life-                                                               
saving  transportation  for  medical emergencies  such  as  heart                                                               
attacks.  He  stressed  that  a functioning  AWOS  can  mean  the                                                               
difference between  life and death  in such cases.  He encouraged                                                               
others  present  to  share  specific  examples  illustrating  the                                                               
critical importance of these systems.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:46:22 PM                                                                                                                    
DAN  KNESEK,  Vice  President,  Commercial  Operations  at  Grant                                                               
Aviation, Anchorage, Alaska,  testified in support of  SJR 20. He                                                               
said  he is  also a  member  of the  board of  directors for  the                                                               
Alaska  Air Carriers  Association. He  expressed appreciation  to                                                               
committee,  on behalf  of air  carriers and  general aviation  in                                                               
Alaska,  for hearing  his testimony.  He emphasized  the critical                                                               
need for improved infrastructure. He  shared his perspective as a                                                               
pilot  with 13  years of  experience in  Alaska, contrasting  the                                                               
state's lack  of aviation  infrastructure with  the Lower  48. He                                                               
highlighted the  challenges faced by  air carriers and  pilots in                                                               
ensuring essential  services such as food,  medicine, and medevac                                                               
operations reach remote communities.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:47:54 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  KNESEK  noted that  when  he  first started  advocating  for                                                               
aviation infrastructure  it was to  get weather reporting  in all                                                               
villages. Grant  Aviation serves nearly 60  communities, yet only                                                               
about 30 percent have functional  weather observation systems. He                                                               
detailed  creative but  unsafe workarounds,  such as  using radio                                                               
relays  for  weather reports,  and  explained  that flying  under                                                               
visual flight rules  (VFR) with low ceilings  and poor visibility                                                               
is common. He stressed the  importance of instrument flight rules                                                               
(IFR)  for  safe  travel,   which  require  FAA-approved  weather                                                               
observation systems,  and called for the  approval of alternative                                                               
technologies to improve safety and service.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:50:11 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. KNESEK criticized the  outdated infrastructure, including the                                                               
reliance on  deteriorating copper wire communication  systems for                                                               
weather stations, which frequently  fail. He also highlighted the                                                               
broader impact  on weather forecasting,  as the  National Weather                                                               
Service depends on data from  these very few functioning stations                                                               
for  accurate  predictions.  He  concluded  by  emphasizing  that                                                               
reliable  weather  observation  systems are  essential  for  safe                                                               
travel and  the livelihoods of  those living off the  road system                                                               
in Alaska.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:52:14 PM                                                                                                                    
GREG  DYER,   Director,  Airspace  Services,   Woolpert,  Denver,                                                               
Colorado, testified  in support of  SJR 20. He  expressed support                                                               
for  Mr.  LaRue  and  statewide   aviation  efforts,  noting  his                                                               
involvement  in  an  aviation  infrastructure  gap  analysis  for                                                               
Alaska.  He stated  his  role in  testifying is  not  so much  to                                                               
advocate to the  committee as much as  it is to be  a resource if                                                               
there are technical questions.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:52:56 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  DYER described  the weather  information  issue as  complex,                                                               
involving  aviators'  needs,  FAA regulations  governing  weather                                                               
data,  and the  hardware and  communication systems  that support                                                               
safe flight.  He emphasized that reliability  problems previously                                                               
mentioned are significant and directly  impact community needs as                                                               
outlined by Mr. Knesek.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:53:29 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. DYER  stated that  the topic  has been  addressed in  the FAA                                                               
reauthorization bill  passed by the House,  with anticipation for                                                               
reconciliation  with  the  Senate  version.  He  highlighted  the                                                               
opportunity to  use current technology to  reimagine regulations,                                                               
improve hardware performance, and  better align these elements to                                                               
create  a more  supportable  system for  weather information  and                                                               
pilot needs moving forward.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:55:12 PM                                                                                                                    
DAN OWEN, Owner/Operator, Alaska  Air Transit, Anchorage, Alaska,                                                               
testified  in support  of SJR  20.  He said  he has  20 years  of                                                               
aviation experience, including work with  a major airline and the                                                               
U.S.  Navy.  He  shared  concerns regarding  the  reliability  of                                                               
Automated Weather Observation Systems  (AWOS) in Alaska. He cited                                                               
a recent  charter operation for  the Lower Yukon  School District                                                               
to  Scammon Bay  and Hooper  Bay, where  neither AWOS  functioned                                                               
properly. Scammon Bay's AWOS had  been out of service since March                                                               
29, with  a projected return date  of May 25, while  Hooper Bay's                                                               
AWOS was  only accessible by  phone. He  highlighted connectivity                                                               
issues,  as data  is still  transmitted  through outdated  copper                                                               
technology, though alternatives like cellular systems exist.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:57:07 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  OWEN pointed  to maintenance  delays,  with lengthy  periods                                                               
before systems  are repaired,  and occasional  accuracy problems,                                                               
particularly during  extreme cold, where AWOS  reports contradict                                                               
visible   conditions.   He   outlined  the   impacts   of   these                                                               
deficiencies, including  flight cancellations, lost  revenue, and                                                               
reduced  access  to  essential services  like  medical  care  and                                                               
infrastructure  repairs.  He  emphasized  the  safety  risks,  as                                                               
pilots are  often forced  to use  nearby airports  for instrument                                                               
approaches   and  then   navigate   visually   to  the   intended                                                               
destination  in marginal  weather,  reducing  safety margins.  He                                                               
stressed  the importance  of addressing  these issues  to improve                                                               
aviation reliability and community access.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:59:43 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DUNBAR closed public testimony on SJR 20.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:00:02 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DUNBAR held SJR 20 in committee.                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SJR20-LEG-SESS-04-09-24.pdf SCRA 4/9/2024 1:30:00 PM
SJR 20
SJR 20 Support - Propublica 2021.pdf SCRA 4/9/2024 1:30:00 PM
SJR 20