Legislature(2017 - 2018)BARNES 124

01/27/2017 01:00 PM RESOURCES

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ HB 6 JONESVILLE PUBLIC USE AREA TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
+ HJR 4 SUPPORT ANWR DEVELOPMENT; RELATED ISSUES TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled but Not Heard
-- Public Testimony --
+ HJR 5 ENDORSING ANWR LEASING; RELATED ISSUES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
*+ HJR 6 SUPPORT ROAD: KING COVE & COLD BAY TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHJR 6(RES) Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
           HJR  6-SUPPORT ROAD: KING COVE & COLD BAY                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:17:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  JOSEPHSON announced  that the  first order  of business                                                               
would  be HOUSE  JOINT RESOLUTION  NO. 6,  Expressing the  Alaska                                                               
State  Legislature's  support  and appreciation  for  legislation                                                               
introduced  by the  state's congressional  delegation that  would                                                               
allow for the  construction of a single-lane  gravel road through                                                               
the Izembek  National Wildlife  Refuge, connecting  the community                                                               
of King  Cove with the  Cold Bay  Airport; and urging  the United                                                               
States Congress to pass the legislation.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:19:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BRYCE  EDGMON, Alaska State  Legislature, speaking                                                               
as  the  sponsor,  introduced  HJR   6.    Representative  Edgmon                                                               
informed the committee  that the issue addressed by HJR  6 is not                                                               
unfamiliar to  most; in fact,  connecting King Cove and  Cold Bay                                                               
through the Izembek National Wildlife  Refuge ("refuge") has been                                                               
discussed for 30  years, and [inaction] has exacted  a human toll                                                               
from  residents of  King Cove  in need  of medical  attention who                                                               
need to reach the airport in Cold  Bay.  The Cold Bay Airport was                                                               
built by the military and consists  of one of the bigger and more                                                               
accessible  runways and  a generous  cross [landing  strip].   In                                                               
2010, a  solution was in  place under the federal  Omnibus Public                                                               
Land Management Act of 2009 ("lands  Act of 2009") [passed in the                                                               
111th  U.S.   Congress],  and  supported  by   the  Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature   which   in   2010,  unanimously   passed   enabling                                                               
legislation  related  to a  land  exchange  that would  create  a                                                               
corridor  through the  refuge  and allow  the  construction of  a                                                               
road.  To  the disappointment of residents of King  Cove and many                                                               
others, in  2015, it was  found that  completion of the  road was                                                               
not in  the public's interest.   Representative  Edgmon expressed                                                               
his support  of responsible resource development  and his respect                                                               
for those who are concerned  with the sensitivity of the affected                                                               
lagoon  and habitat.    However,  he opined  the  footprint of  a                                                               
single lane gravel  road is highly prescriptive  and very doable,                                                               
so  he   introduced  the  resolution   in  support   of  proposed                                                               
congressional  legislation to  successfully  progress the  issue.                                                               
Representative Edgmon asked for the committee's support.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:23:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TALERICO  stated his belief that  the foregoing is                                                               
a life and safety issue for residents of the state.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   EDGMON   agreed   and  directed   attention   to                                                               
supporting  materials  from  the National  Transportation  Safety                                                               
Board found in  the committee packet.  He  described his personal                                                               
experience flying into King Cove  during perilous conditions that                                                               
are present "about a third of the year."                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DRUMMOND asked  whether the  legislation proposed                                                               
by the Alaska congressional delegation includes a land exchange.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EDGMON  explained that  legislation passed  by the                                                               
Alaska State Legislature  in 2010 anticipated an  exchange of 206                                                               
acres for "a package" of about  43,000 acres of state and village                                                               
corporation inholdings.  He was  unaware of the parameters of the                                                               
legislation  proposed  by  U.S Senator  Lisa  Murkowski  or  U.S.                                                               
Congressman Don Young.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:26:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TIM  CLARK,  staff,  Representative Bryce  Edgmon,  Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, said the legislation  introduced in Congress alludes                                                               
to the exchange  of federal and non-federal land  as contained in                                                               
the lands Act  of 2009.  He expressed his  understanding that the                                                               
same  two parcels  of state  land of  approximately 43,000  acres                                                               
will be exchanged  for a 206-acre road corridor  through about 12                                                               
miles of the refuge.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DRUMMOND surmised  that  the  authority [for  the                                                               
exchange] is already in place by the lands Act of 2009.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. CLARK responded  that although the lands Act  of 2009 exists,                                                               
the authority granted for the  land exchange and the construction                                                               
of   the  road   has  expired;   the  current   proposed  federal                                                               
legislation utilizes the  details from the 2009  agreement on the                                                               
land exchange and the parameters of the road.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EDGMON added  that  the road  is  about 30  miles                                                               
long,  of  which  18  miles  are in  place;  HJR  6  targets  the                                                               
remaining  route that  goes through  the "more  sensitive habitat                                                               
area" of the refuge.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BIRCH  suggested there  may  be  an advantage  to                                                               
revisiting the proportions of the  land exchange, and said, "It's                                                               
certainly not an  acre for an acre  ... it's an acre  for a whole                                                               
lot of acres."                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CLARK   first  qualified  his  response   to  Representative                                                               
Drummond by  adding that  the new  exchange proposed  in Congress                                                               
"probably  will  be less,  in  balance,  so  to speak,  than  the                                                               
previous exchange."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BIRCH  surmised  the  land  exchange  is  "headed                                                               
towards the value for value ...."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR TARR  questioned whether the community's  perspective is                                                               
that the road will not impact economic activity in the area.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EDGMON   agreed  and  added  that   although  the                                                               
community  of Cold  Bay has  had mixed  feelings about  the road,                                                               
Cold Bay  and King Cove  residents now strongly support  the road                                                               
because  of enhanced  access that  would  contribute to  economic                                                               
activity.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:32:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[The committee  treated the hearing of  HJR 6 as open  for public                                                               
testimony.]                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:32:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STANLEY MACK,  mayor, Aleutians  East Borough,  Anchorage Office,                                                               
informed the  committee he is an  Aleut born in King  Cove, which                                                               
is a community of mostly  indigenous Aleut people whose ancestors                                                               
have lived there  for thousands of years.   Representative Edgmon                                                               
and others  have been involved in  this matter for over  a decade                                                               
and Mayor Mack  urged for the passage  of HJR 6.  He  spoke of 30                                                               
years  of  efforts  to  obtain  authorization  from  the  federal                                                               
government  to construct  the  road,  and the  hard  work of  the                                                               
Alaska congressional  delegation.   Mayor Mack  commended Senator                                                               
Lisa  Murkowski for  her support  that will  continue until  King                                                               
Cove has  transportation to  the Cold  Bay Airport  for emergency                                                               
medical purposes and  access to the outside world.   Finally, the                                                               
approval of federal legislation is  near to address the difficult                                                               
weather  and geographical  issues  that  impact residents'  daily                                                               
lives,  and sometimes  prevent access  to the  Cold Bay  Airport.                                                               
Regularly,  high winds  prevent safe  and dependable  air access,                                                               
and  King Cove  lives have  been  lost or  compromised. The  land                                                               
exchange will lead to the  construction of a one-lane gravel road                                                               
and  improve the  quality  of  life.   Mayor  Mack expressed  his                                                               
appreciation for the  work of the current legislature  - and that                                                               
of   Governor   Walker's   administration  -   to   resolve   the                                                               
transportation access problem.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR TARR asked about the  financing of the road, and whether                                                               
the  hovercraft [provided  by a  Congressional appropriation  and                                                               
operational from 2007 to 2010] will be utilized.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MAYOR  MACK  said  financing  works   through  the  state.    The                                                               
Aleutians  East  Borough had  the  operation  of the  hovercraft,                                                               
which  proved unreliable  and unaffordable.    He continued,  "We                                                               
have  taken that  one out,  completely  out of  the picture,  and                                                               
hopefully  we could  sell it  and,  and recapture  the money  for                                                               
some, [and] we [can] help finance the access project."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:38:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LOIS EPSTEIN, spokesperson, The  Wilderness Society, informed the                                                               
committee she is  a licensed Alaska engineer  and former director                                                               
of  the  non-profit  Alaska  Transportation  Priorities  Project.                                                               
Currently,  she  represents  The  Wilderness  Society  which  has                                                               
testified before Congress on this  issue.  The Wilderness Society                                                               
opposes HJR 6  for numerous reasons, including  the importance of                                                               
the  Izembek Wildlife  Refuge, the  precedent regarding  national                                                               
wildlife  refuges, the  adverse  impact to  subsistence, and  the                                                               
high cost  to the state  for capital, operating,  and maintenance                                                               
costs.    The  Wilderness  Society  will  provide  the  committee                                                               
further detailed information, and she  urged the committee not to                                                               
support HJR 6.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  JOSEPHSON asked  whether  congressional legislation  is                                                               
needed,  or if  the next  U.S.  Secretary of  the Interior  could                                                               
authorize [the land exchange and road corridor].                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. EPSTEIN  understood an  analytical process  would need  to be                                                               
redone  by the  U.S.  Department  of the  Interior.   In  further                                                               
response  to  Co-Chair  Josephson,  she said  she  did  not  know                                                               
whether further legislation was required.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BIRCH  inquired as to  what evidence on  which The                                                               
Wilderness  Society  based  its  testimony that  the  bill  would                                                               
contradict   or  complicate   the  subsistence   values  of   the                                                               
community.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  EPSTEIN responded  that the  Association of  Village Council                                                               
Presidents opposes the "Izembek road  ... through the refuge" and                                                               
she  urged  the  committee  to   consult  with  members  of  that                                                               
organization regarding impacts to subsistence.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  JOSEPHSON questioned  whether the  committee substitute                                                               
(CS) for HJR 6 makes substantial changes to the original bill.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. CLARK  responded that the  CS and explanation of  changes was                                                               
previously  provided  to  the  co-chairs'   staff.    In  further                                                               
response  to  Co-Chair  Josephson,  he said  the  CS  corrects  a                                                               
drafting  error   of  bill   numbers  referring   to  legislation                                                               
introduced  by Senator  Lisa Murkowski  and Congressman  Young as                                                               
follows:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 2, S. 3204 and H.R. 5777 were deleted and                                                                     
     replaced with S. 101 and H.R. 218;                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 6, S. 3240 was deleted and replaced with                                                                      
     S. 101;                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
       Page 3, line 7, H.R. 5777 was deleted and replaced                                                                       
     with H.R. 218                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:44:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  TARR moved  to  adopt the  CS for  HJR  6, Version  30-                                                               
LS0329\D, Bullard, 1/18/17, as the working document.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:44:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR JOSEPHSON objected for discussion purposes.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BIRCH expressed his support for the bill.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:45:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  JOSEPHSON  removed  his  objection.    There  being  no                                                               
further objection, Version D was before the committee.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
[The committee treated public testimony on HJR 6 as closed.]                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:45:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR TARR  moved to  report [the  CS for  HJR 6,  Version 30-                                                               
LS0329\D,  Bullard, 1/18/17],  out of  committee with  individual                                                               
recommendations  [and  a  zero  fiscal note].    There  being  no                                                               
objection, CSHJR 6(RES)  was reported out of  the House Resources                                                               
Standing Committee.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
[Later in  the meeting, Co-Chair  Tarr clarified that  her motion                                                               
was to move CS for HJR 6.]                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR JOSEPHSON stated there were  no fiscal notes attached to                                                               
the bill.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
[Later in  the meeting, Co-Chair  Josephson clarified  that there                                                               
was a zero fiscal note attached to Version D of the bill.]                                                                      

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 006 sponsor statement 1.19.17.pdf HRES 1/27/2017 1:00:00 PM
bill
HB 6
yes
HB006 Hearing Request.pdf HRES 1/27/2017 1:00:00 PM
HB 6
yes
HB006 Supporting Document-ADN Article.pdf HRES 1/27/2017 1:00:00 PM
HB 6
HB006 Supporting Document-DNR Petition.pdf HRES 1/27/2017 1:00:00 PM
HB 6
yes
HB006 Supporting Document-Jonesville Action Plan.pdf HRES 1/27/2017 1:00:00 PM
HB 6
HB006 Supporting Document-KTUU Article.pdf HRES 1/27/2017 1:00:00 PM
HB 6
HB006 Supporting Document-Map of Area.pdf HRES 1/27/2017 1:00:00 PM
HB 6
HB006 Supporting Document-MSB Letter.pdf HRES 1/27/2017 1:00:00 PM
HB 6
HB006 Supporting Document-Sutton Resolution.pdf HRES 1/27/2017 1:00:00 PM
HB 6
HB006 ver D.pdf HRES 1/27/2017 1:00:00 PM
HB 6
HB006 Supporting Document-Frontiersman Editorial.pdf HRES 1/27/2017 1:00:00 PM
HB 6
HB006 Supporting Document-Lynne Woods letter.pdf HRES 1/27/2017 1:00:00 PM
HB 6
HB006 Fiscal Note DFG 1.21.17.pdf HRES 1/27/2017 1:00:00 PM
HB 6
HB006 Fiscal Note DPS 1.21.17.pdf HRES 1/27/2017 1:00:00 PM
HB 6
HB006 Fiscal Note DPS 2 1.21.17.pdf HRES 1/27/2017 1:00:00 PM
HB 6
HJR6 CS Work Draft Version D 1.23.17.pdf HRES 1/27/2017 1:00:00 PM
HJR 6
HJR6 Explanation of Changes--Version A to Version D 1.23.17.pdf HRES 1/27/2017 1:00:00 PM
HJR 6
HJR 5 Fiscal Note LAA.pdf HRES 1/27/2017 1:00:00 PM
HJR 5
HJR 5 - Supporting Document - Estimates of Undiscovered Oil and Gas Resources.pdf HRES 1/27/2017 1:00:00 PM
HJR 5
HJR 4 - Sponsor Statement 1 24 2016.pdf HRES 1/27/2017 1:00:00 PM
HJR 4
HJR 4 1 24 2016.pdf HRES 1/27/2017 1:00:00 PM
HJR 4
HJR 4 Supporting Documentation 1 24 2016.pdf HRES 1/27/2017 1:00:00 PM
HJR 4
HB006 Letter of Support 1.pdf HRES 1/27/2017 1:00:00 PM
HB 6
HJR004 Fiscal Note LAA.pdf HRES 1/27/2017 1:00:00 PM
HJR 4
HJR006 Fiscal Note LAA.pdf HRES 1/27/2017 1:00:00 PM
HJR 6
HJR 5 Opposition Document Campbell Webb Letter.pdf HRES 1/27/2017 1:00:00 PM
HJR 5
HB 006 MSB Assembly Jim Sykes Draft Resolution.pdf HRES 1/27/2017 1:00:00 PM
HB 6
HB 006 sponsor statement 1.19.17.pdf HRES 1/27/2017 1:00:00 PM
HB 6
HB006 Public Comment 1.pdf HRES 1/27/2017 1:00:00 PM
HB 6
HJR005 Public Comment 1.pdf HRES 1/27/2017 1:00:00 PM
HJR 5
HB006 Amendment D.1.pdf HRES 1/27/2017 1:00:00 PM
HB 006 rauscher Amendment 1.pdf HRES 1/27/2017 1:00:00 PM
HB 006 Rauscher amendment 3.pdf HRES 1/27/2017 1:00:00 PM