Legislature(2001 - 2002)

03/15/2002 01:09 PM RES

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HJR 44-ALASKA NATURAL GAS PIPELINE ROUTE                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
CO-CHAIR MASEK  announced that the  next order of  business would                                                               
be HOUSE  JOINT RESOLUTION  NO. 44, Urging  the President  of the                                                               
United  States,  the  United  States  Congress,  and  appropriate                                                               
federal officials  to support the  construction and  operation of                                                               
the  Alaska Highway  Natural  Gas Pipeline  route.   [Before  the                                                               
committee was CSHJR 44(O&G)].                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 1269                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SCOTT OGAN,  Alaska State  Legislature, presented                                                               
the sponsor statement  for HJR 44 on behalf of  the House Special                                                               
Committee  on  Oil  and  Gas,  which he  chairs.    He  told  the                                                               
committee  he   thought  the  issue  was   extremely  timely  and                                                               
encouraged  moving  the bill  forward.    He mentioned  that  the                                                               
[U.S.]  Senate was  simultaneously  debating energy  legislation.                                                               
He  remarked,  "We are  hoping  to  have  this  in hand  for  our                                                               
congressional delegation to clearly  articulate a position of the                                                               
State  of Alaska  on  natural gas  development  and the  pipeline                                                               
routes."                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 1335                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
[There was  a motion to adopt  CSHJR 44(O&G), but it  was already                                                               
before the committee.]                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MASEK called an at-ease from 1:29 p.m. to 1:30 p.m.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  OGAN  mentioned  that  he wanted  to  offer  some                                                               
technical amendments.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 1385                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GREEN  said he  thinks the  resolution is  a great                                                               
idea, but he  expressed concern about the length  of the six-page                                                               
resolution and the fact that it  contains a lot of language about                                                               
the route [of  the proposed gas pipeline, which  had already been                                                               
set out  at the  congressional level].   He suggested  offering a                                                               
"rendered down" version to avoid creating any "friction."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  OGAN mentioned  the  difficulty of  working on  a                                                               
resolution while legislation on  the federal level is [changing].                                                               
He suggested keeping  some references to the northern  route.  He                                                               
said there  will be a  conference committee on the  [U.S.] energy                                                               
bill.   Representative Ogan suggested that  certain [oil company]                                                               
producers might  not be  happy with  the mandated  southern route                                                               
and may  try to  lobby some changes  in conference  committee [in                                                               
Congress].  He agreed that the resolution was long.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 1587                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  OGAN, in  response to  Co-Chair Masek,  explained                                                               
that the  [resolution] had  come out of  [the Joint  Committee on                                                               
Natural  Gas  Pipelines];  he said  the  committee  chairman  had                                                               
"pretty  much introduced  it and  we did  go over  it as  a joint                                                               
committee."   Representative  Ogan  mentioned that  the bill  had                                                               
been "tweaked" in the House Special Committee on Oil and Gas.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GREEN  remarked that  the [resolution] was  in the                                                               
House Special  Committee on  Oil and Gas  well before  the [U.S.]                                                               
Senate  had started  hearing  the issue.    He expressed  concern                                                               
about timing.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 1665                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  OGAN turned  attention  to page  3,  line 2,  and                                                               
offered Amendment 1, which read [original punctuation provided]:                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 2      delete (S. 1766)                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                         replace with the "Energy Policy                                                                    
     Act of 2002",                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE OGAN  explained that [the resolution]  talks about                                                               
[U.S.]  S.  1766,  but  that  isn't  the  bill  currently  before                                                               
[Congress].   He added:  "We  just thought we should  call it the                                                               
Energy  Policy  Act  of  2002, because  that's  what  it's  being                                                               
referred to  in [the] title.   So, just a technical  amendment so                                                               
it doesn't  confuse people about  what bill  it is.   Again, this                                                               
thing [the  Congressional legislation] morphs faster  than we can                                                               
keep up  with it, and  it will  probably morph again  before it's                                                               
over."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 1726                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GREEN  moved to adopt  the foregoing  as Amendment                                                               
1.  There being no objection, Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 1740                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  OGAN offered  Amendment 2,  which read  [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3  line 10 delete  (and which  right is not  in S.                                                                    
     1766)                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE OGAN referred to page 3, lines 7-10, which read:                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     WHEREAS   ANGTA    granted   the   State    of   Alaska                                                                  
     "authoriz[ation]  to  ship  its   royalty  gas  on  the                                                                    
     approved  transportation system  for use  within Alaska                                                                    
     and  ...  to  withdraw  such gas  from  the  interstate                                                                    
     market  for use  within Alaska,"  which rights  will be                                                                    
     impaired  if a  northern  route is  followed and  which                                                                    
     right is not in S. 1766; and                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  OGAN  explained  that the  language  ["and  which                                                               
right is  not in S. 1766"]  would be removed [by  Amendment 2] to                                                               
conform  because the  northern-route issue  had been  settled and                                                               
because it referred to the wrong bill.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 1783                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GREEN  moved to adopt  the foregoing  as Amendment                                                               
2.  There being no objection, Amendment 2 was adopted.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MASEK announced that public testimony was closed.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 1852                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GREEN suggested  a  reduction of  several of  the                                                               
"whereas" [clauses].   However, he mentioned  the time constraint                                                               
regarding  the  resolution and  said  maybe  he would  talk  with                                                               
[Representative Ogan]  before the resolution goes  to the [House]                                                               
floor.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 1903                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  OGAN  said  he  would   be  happy  to  work  with                                                               
Representative  Green  on some  possible  floor  amendments.   He                                                               
again  mentioned the  [U.S.  energy bill]  in  Congress and  time                                                               
constraints.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 1929                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FATE agreed  that time  is  of the  essence.   He                                                               
offered his  view that  people in Washington,  D.C., and  the oil                                                               
companies  are  looking for  an  "expression"  that leads  to  an                                                               
accelerated interest  by "this"  legislative body.   He indicated                                                               
other things in  [the resolution] besides the  northern route are                                                               
extremely important so that Congress  knows the interest at stake                                                               
for  Alaska.    He  concurred with  moving  the  resolution  from                                                               
committee and instead having amendments on the floor.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 1967                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE McGUIRE suggested  Representative Kott, who chairs                                                               
the House  Rules Standing Committee,  would be willing to  hold a                                                               
meeting there to clean up the language.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   OGAN   reiterated   his   concern   about   time                                                               
constraints.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 2013                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STEVENS   offered  his  view  that   all  of  the                                                               
[clauses]  of  the  resolution  were  important.    He  suggested                                                               
sending it along as it is.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 2034                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FATE moved  to report CSHJR 44  [CSHJR 44(O&G), as                                                               
amended]  out of  committee with  individual recommendations  and                                                               
the accompanying  zero fiscal notes.   There being  no objection,                                                               
CSHJR  44(RES) was  moved  out of  the  House Resources  Standing                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                

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