Legislature(2023 - 2024)GRUENBERG 120

04/26/2024 01:00 PM House JUDICIARY

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02:09:04 PM Start
02:09:38 PM Confirmation Hearing(s):|| Commission on Judicial Conduct|| Confirmation Hearing(s):
02:39:33 PM HJR28
03:04:19 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
-- Delayed to 2 PM --
+= HJR 28 CONST. AM: EDUCATION FUNDING TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ SB 12 ADDRESS CONFIDENTIALITY PROGRAM TELECONFERENCED
<Bill Hearing Rescheduled to 04/29/24>
+ Consideration of Governor’s Appointees: TELECONFERENCED
Commission on Judicial Conduct - Robert Sheldon
-- Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 107 CRIMINAL LAW DEFINITIONS PERSON/LIFE TELECONFERENCED
<Bill Hearing Rescheduled to 04/29/24>
              HJR 28-CONST. AM: EDUCATION FUNDING                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:39:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VANCE announced  that the final order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE  JOINT  RESOLUTION  NO. 28,  Proposing  amendments  to  the                                                               
Constitution  of the  State of  Alaska relating  to using  public                                                               
funds for education.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VANCE noted that she had  opened public testimony on HJR 28                                                               
during the meeting on 4/24/24.   She said the committee would now                                                               
continue public testimony.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:40:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AMELIA STAPP, representing self, testified  in support of HJR 28.                                                               
She said  homeschooling helps  her travel to  Juneau as  a family                                                               
and keeps  her from worrying  about changing schools  every year.                                                               
She said  it helps when money  from IDEA Homeschool pays  for her                                                               
education and urged the committee to save her homeschool funds.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:41:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NAOMI STAPP, representing  self, testified in support  of HJR 28.                                                               
She listed  the benefits of  the allotment program and  asked how                                                               
low-income  families  are  supposed  to  educate  their  children                                                               
without it.   She said there  should be an equal  opportunity for                                                               
homeschoolers, like  public school  students, to  receive funding                                                               
to educate their family.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:43:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LAURA BONNER,  representing self, testified in  opposition to HJR
28.      She  said  every dollar  going  to  private  educational                                                               
institutions  takes away  from public  education  where the  vast                                                               
majority of  Alaskans go to school.   She shared her  belief that                                                               
vouchers   could   still   be    allowed   for   homeschool   and                                                               
correspondence programs without changing the constitution.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:46:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALICIA  JENSEN, representing  self, testified  in support  of HJR
28.   She  opined  that HJR  28 would  provide  clarity and  that                                                               
currently, the  entire homeschool  program hangs in  the balance.                                                               
She  emphasized that  this issue  needs a  permanent fix  to move                                                               
forward.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VANCE [closed public testimony.]                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:48:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease at 2:48 p.m.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:48:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BOB BALLINGER,  Staff, Representative  Sarah Vance,  Alaska State                                                               
Legislature,   on  behalf   of  the   House  Judiciary   Standing                                                               
Committee, sponsor  by request, chaired by  Representative Vance,                                                               
directed attention  to a  PowerPoint presentation,  entitled "HJR
28  Const. Am:  Education  Funding" [hard  copy  included in  the                                                               
committee packet].   He began on slide 2,  "Superior Court Ruling                                                               
threatens the educational funding  of more than 22,000 students!"                                                               
Slide 2 read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     If  left  unaddressed,  the   ruling  could  have  far-                                                                    
     reaching implications for  education funding across the                                                                    
     state, jeopardizing  many educational programs  such as                                                                    
     public  school  programs   that  partner  with  private                                                                    
     institutions  for  concurrent enrollment  programs  and                                                                    
     technical education.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:52:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BALLINGER continued to slide 3, "Blaine Amendment," which                                                                   
read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Blaine Amendments are found  in 37 state constitutions.                                                                    
     Although  their  language  varies, a  Blaine  Amendment                                                                    
     includes  any  provision  that  specifically  prohibits                                                                    
     state   legislatures   from  appropriating   funds   to                                                                    
     religious  sects or  institutions, including  religious                                                                    
     schools.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Blaine  Amendments are  named  after  a failed  federal                                                                    
     constitutional   amendment  introduced   in  the   U.S.                                                                    
     Congress by Sen. James G. Blaine of Maine in 1875.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:54:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BALLINGER proceeded to slide 4, "Current Juris Prudence,"                                                                   
which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Lutheran Church v. Comer (2017)                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     The  exclusion of  churches from  an otherwise  neutral                                                                    
     and secular aid program  violates the First Amendment's                                                                    
     guarantee of free excercise [sic] of religion.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Espinoza V. Montana Dep. of Revenue (2020)                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     The  application of  the Montana  Constitution's Blaine                                                                    
     Amendment regarding  tuition assistance to  parents who                                                                    
     send  their children  to private  schools discriminated                                                                    
     against   religious  schools   and  the   families  who                                                                    
     children attend or  hope to attend in  violation of the                                                                    
     Free Exercise Clause                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Carson v. Makin (2022)                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Maine's   "nonsectarian"   requirement  for   otherwise                                                                    
     generally  available  tuition  assistance  payments  to                                                                    
     parents  who  live  in school  districts  that  do  not                                                                    
     operate a  secondary school of  their own  violates the                                                                    
     Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:57:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BALLINGER advanced to slide 5, which featured a map of                                                                      
states with one of more private school choice programs.  He                                                                     
continued  to slide  6, "Providing  Flexibility,"  which read  as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     "I do not  feel that when it comes  to an appropriation                                                                    
     of  public  funds  it  (religion)  should  receive  any                                                                    
     special,  either  more   restrictive  or  more  favored                                                                    
     treatment.  As  Mr.  White  pointed  out,  the  general                                                                    
     stipulation  is that  funds  be  appropriated only  for                                                                    
     public purpose...                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     The fact that  it has left itself open to  that kind of                                                                    
     interpretation  and, therefore,  it  seems  that if  we                                                                    
     give favored  treatment or discriminatory  treatment to                                                                    
     this education  section, what are  we going to  do when                                                                    
     it  comes to  health,  welfare and  just anything  else                                                                    
     that  may   come  out.  I  think   the  public  purpose                                                                    
     provision should be the only  guidance when it comes to                                                                    
     appropriating public funds." -                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Vic   Fisher  page   1529,  Constitutional   Convention                                                                    
     Proceedings                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:01:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BALLINGER turned  to slide  7, "Vote  of the  People," which                                                               
read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Should  HJR 28  pass  through  both legislative  bodies                                                                    
     with a  2/3 vote, it  will go  to Alaskan voters,  as a                                                                    
     proposed amendment in the upcoming general election.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     This ballot proposal allows  the voters the opportunity                                                                    
     to have a say in how public  funds to have a say in how                                                                    
     public funds  are utilized for  education, guaranteeing                                                                    
     that the  voice of every  Alaskan is heard  in charting                                                                    
     the course of our educational journey.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. BALLINGER concluded  the presentation and said he  saw no way                                                               
to  remain  consistent with  the  superior  court decision  while                                                               
maintaining the  robust system that  was in place prior  to that.                                                               
He shared his belief that the  only way to preserve what had been                                                               
provided to the kids is to  amend the constitution and remove the                                                               
language that was deemed unconstitutional  by the Alaska Superior                                                               
Court.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:03:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VANCE announced that HJR 28 would be held over.                                                                           

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
ACJC Appointee - Robert Sheldon Resume.pdf HJUD 4/26/2024 1:00:00 PM
HJR 28 - Sponsor Statement.pdf HJUD 4/26/2024 1:00:00 PM
HJR 28
HJR 28 - v.A.pdf HJUD 4/26/2024 1:00:00 PM
HJR 28
HJR 28 - OG-Elections Fiscal Note (04-18-24).pdf HJUD 4/26/2024 1:00:00 PM
HJR 28
HJR 28 Slide.pptx HJUD 4/26/2024 1:00:00 PM
HJR 28
HJR 28 - Slideshow Presentation (04-26-24).pdf HJUD 4/26/2024 1:00:00 PM
HJR 28