Legislature(2025 - 2026)DAVIS 106

03/18/2025 03:15 PM House HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES

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03:22:48 PM Start
03:23:36 PM State Medical Board
03:46:17 PM HJR9
04:41:42 PM HB14
04:45:21 PM SB60
05:19:33 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Consideration of Governor’s Appointees: TELECONFERENCED
- State Medical Board: Dr. Brent Taylor
-- Public Testimony --
*+ HJR 9 EXTEND AFFORDABLE CARE ACT TAX CREDITS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+= HB 14 REPEAL CATASTROPHIC ILLNESS/MED ASSIST TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 14 Out of Committee
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+ SB 60 ESTABLISH ME/CHRONIC FATIGUE SYNDROME DAY TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
         HJR  9-EXTEND AFFORDABLE CARE ACT TAX CREDITS                                                                      
HJR 9-EXTEND AFFORDABLE CARE ACT TAX CREDITS                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:46:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MEARS  announced that  the next order  of business                                                               
would be HOUSE  JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 9, Urging  the United States                                                               
Congress  to extend  enhanced tax  credits  for health  insurance                                                               
premiums under the Affordable Care Act.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:46:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MINA, as  prime sponsor, presented HJR 9  to the committee.                                                               
She said the  goal of HJR 9 is to  stabilize healthcare costs for                                                               
Alaskans on  the individual  marketplace.   She provided  a brief                                                               
background  of the  Affordable Care  Act (ACA).   She  emphasized                                                               
that  premium  tax  credits make  premiums  affordable  for  many                                                               
people.   She  provided a  recent  history of  these premium  tax                                                               
credits.   She  explained that  if Congress  does not  expand the                                                               
extension  of  the  enhanced  ACA  tax  credits,  premiums  would                                                               
increase  dramatically,  forcing  many  people to  be  unable  to                                                               
afford them.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:53:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MEARS announced invited testimony.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:53:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JARED KOSIN,  President and CEO,  Alaska Hospital  and Healthcare                                                               
Association,  explained that  HJR  9 would  make healthcare  more                                                               
affordable  and accessible  for  Alaskans  who purchase  coverage                                                               
through the federal  marketplace.  He emphasized  how many people                                                               
would  become  uninsured  if  premiums  were  to  increase.    He                                                               
explained   that  lacking   insurance   funnels  people   towards                                                               
emergency rooms  and hospitals for healthcare,  where they cannot                                                               
be denied, which are the  most expensive environments for care in                                                               
the entire  healthcare system.   He said that reducing  access to                                                               
affordable healthcare services will  ultimately increase the cost                                                               
of healthcare for all people in Alaska.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:56:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX  asked how a  tax credit could make  the cost                                                               
of the insured go more than 100 percent.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. KOSIN responded  that the numbers he sees are  the amount the                                                               
premium would  cost in the offset  from the tax credit.   He said                                                               
that if the  tax credit goes away, there will  be a destabilizing                                                               
effect on the market at large, doubling, or tripling premiums.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:58:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LORI WING-HEIER,  Director, Division of Insurance,  Department of                                                               
Commerce,  Community, and  Economic  Development, explained  that                                                               
the tax  credits are based  on income  and family size,  and said                                                               
that these credits are reassessed  when an individual files their                                                               
taxes.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX  asked if the  tax credit could be  more than                                                               
what an individual paid for the premium.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. WING-HEIER said  that an individual would  never receive more                                                               
in tax credits than what their total premium is.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX provided  an example to clarify  how this tax                                                               
credit would  work.  He  asked how an individual's  premium could                                                               
go up more than 100 percent.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  WING-HEIER responded  that a  premium would  not exceed  100                                                               
percent  through the  tax credits.    She explained  that if  the                                                               
enhanced premium  tax credits were  not available,  an individual                                                               
would receive less in a premium  tax credit in 2026 than they did                                                               
in 2025.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX asked if the  enhanced tax credit would go to                                                               
the insurance provider or the insured individual.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  WING-HEIER responded  that the  tax credit  would go  to the                                                               
insurance company to pay the premium.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX asked  if the  number  of people  purchasing                                                               
policies would decrease, causing the prices to increase.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  WING-HEIER responded  that  some people  would  have to  pay                                                               
more, and that  some would not be able to  afford their insurance                                                               
even with a subsidy.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:03:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE asked if  the enhanced tax credits, with                                                               
a subsidy, have  covered individuals who actually  were above 400                                                               
percent of the federal poverty line.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. WING-HEIER responded that is correct.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE  asked if individuals above  400 percent                                                               
of  the federal  poverty line  would now  have to  pay for  their                                                               
health  insurance in  full if  it  is not  provided through  some                                                               
other means.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. WING-HEIER responded that is correct.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE  asked if  the subsidy would  remain for                                                               
individuals falling  between 100 and  400 percent of  the federal                                                               
poverty line.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. WING-HEIER confirmed that is correct.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:05:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCHWANKE asked  if there is data to  show what the                                                               
average  savings  on  premiums  per family  was  when  these  tax                                                               
credits went into place.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. WING-HEIER  provided examples to show  how families' premiums                                                               
would increase without the enhanced premium tax credits.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SCHWANKE asked  what  savings  occurred prior  to                                                               
these premium  tax credits going into  place.  She said  she does                                                               
not want  to over generalize  what the  effect would be  if these                                                               
tax credits go away.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:09:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS asked about  the income of people currently                                                               
benefiting  from   these  tax  credits.     He  asked   if  these                                                               
individuals would go  without insurance if they were  to lose the                                                               
tax credits.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  WING-HEIER  responded  that  the  recipients  of  these  tax                                                               
credits are middle-income, and she  is concerned about what would                                                               
happen to them without the tax credits.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS  asked about premiums increasing  for other                                                               
employers who now have a higher share of uncompensated care.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  WING-HEIER  explained  that  hospitals  will  always  see  a                                                               
patient, regardless of their ability to  pay.  She said that if a                                                               
patient  cannot afford  to  pay their  hospital  bill, that  cost                                                               
affects "all of  us," meaning that hospital  prices must increase                                                               
to keep their doors open.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS  asked  about   the  conditions  of  rural                                                               
communities  that have  lost  all hospital  care,  which he  said                                                               
would  happen  if Medicaid  expansion  and  enhanced premium  tax                                                               
credits go away.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:13:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. KOSIN  responded that there would  be a cost shift.   He said                                                               
that  there  are such  high  insurance  rates in  Alaska  because                                                               
healthcare costs  have shifted onto private  insurance companies.                                                               
He emphasized the importance of the premium tax credits.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:14:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RUFFRIDGE said  that  there  are 23,000  Alaskans                                                               
that are  covered under some tax  credit plan under the  ACA.  He                                                               
asked  how  many of  those  23,000  fall  above the  400  percent                                                               
federal poverty limit.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  WING-HEIER responded  that  she estimates  there are  23,000                                                               
enrolled in the individual market.   She said she would follow up                                                               
with  how many  of those  qualify  for premium  tax credits,  the                                                               
enhanced premium  tax credits,  or none at  all because  of their                                                               
income.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:16:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AMBER LEE, Owner,  Amber Lee Strategies, shared  a personal story                                                               
of losing both her health insurance  and her job at the same time                                                               
that she was diagnosed with  cancer.  She expressed her gratitude                                                               
that Alaska's  Medicaid expansion  insurance covered her  and her                                                               
two children.   She said she was able to  enroll with marketplace                                                               
insurance under ACA because it  prevents insurance companies from                                                               
denying people  like her, who  have preexisting conditions.   She                                                               
emphasized  the  importance  of  small  business  owners  in  the                                                               
economic  diversification of  Alaska and  said that  losing these                                                               
tax credits  would hurt  their ability  to continue  owning their                                                               
businesses.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:19:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The  committee  took an  at-ease  from  4:19  p.m. to  4:20  p.m.                                                               
[During the  at-ease, Representative Mears handed  the gavel back                                                               
to Chair Mina.]                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:20:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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CHAIR MINA opened public testimony on HJR 9.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:20:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TERI  TIBBETT, Alaska  Re-entry Partnership,  explained that  the                                                               
Alaska  Re-entry  Partnership  supports  HJR 9  because  the  tax                                                               
credits  are currently  helping people  who are  just re-entering                                                               
the  workforce  from  incarceration.    She  explained  that  the                                                               
barriers  that her  clients face  in achieving  jobs with  health                                                               
insurance.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:22:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KATHARINA  WOOFTER, Life  and Health  Insurance Agent,  described                                                               
her  experience  connecting  clients  to  individual  marketplace                                                               
plans  with   subsidy,  emphasizing   the  importance   of  these                                                               
subsidies.   She provided examples of  individuals' premiums with                                                               
and without these subsidies.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:25:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TREVOR STORRS,  President and CEO, Alaska  Children's Trust, said                                                               
that  the passage  of ACA  was pivotal  in reducing  the rate  of                                                               
uninsured individuals in Alaska,  including thousands of families                                                               
with  children.   He  emphasized that  when  parents have  health                                                               
insurance, their children  will have it, and  those children will                                                               
access care.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:27:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ARIANE  KELSEY,  Senior  Manager, AIDS  Drug  Assistance  Program                                                               
(ADAP)  and  Quality  Insurance,   The  Alaskan  AIDS  Assistance                                                               
Association (AAAA),  explained that  AAAA works with  clients who                                                               
have  no option  for health  insurance besides  enrolling through                                                               
Alaska's  health insurance  marketplace  with tax  credits.   She                                                               
emphasized  that  losing these  tax  credits  would directly  and                                                               
negatively affect ADAP in Alaskan.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:29:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ELIZABETH NEWELL, representing self,  shared a personal anecdote,                                                               
describing how  she would  need to drop  her health  insurance if                                                               
she lost her premium tax credits.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:30:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SHELLIE  GOODEN,  representing  self,  emphasized  the  difficult                                                               
lifestyle choices that many would need  to make if HJR 9 were not                                                               
passed.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:32:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MINA,  after ascertaining  that there was  no one  else who                                                               
wished to testify, closed public testimony on HJR 9.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:32:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RUFFRIDGE asked  about  the total  amount of  tax                                                               
credit  being  paid out  each  year,  by  Alaska and  the  United                                                               
States.   He  said that  with  these tax  credits, Americans  are                                                               
essentially paying  taxes to an  insurance company.  He  asked if                                                               
that is an accurate analysis.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MINA responded  that  Representative  Ruffridge offered  a                                                               
great way to think about this issue.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:34:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  WING-HEIER responded  that  ACA helped  individuals pay  for                                                               
healthcare, but it  did not address the cost of  healthcare.  She                                                               
said  that in  2024,  the  premium tax  credits  for Alaska  were                                                               
$385,000,000.    She  emphasized  the viciousness  of  the  cycle                                                               
regarding  healthcare cost  increasing,  causing  tax credits  to                                                               
increase.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:36:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RUFFRIDGE  said  that  in  2024,  individuals  in                                                               
Alaska receiving tax  credits received an average  of $16,000 per                                                               
person.    He asked  about  cost-shifting.    He asked  if  cost-                                                               
shifting merely  would allow the  state to decide who  makes that                                                               
money if the state is going to spend this money regardless.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. WING-HEIER  responded that cost-shifting allows  the state to                                                               
decide who  makes and  who spends  this money.   She  provided an                                                               
example to  emphasize the disproportionate  amount of  money that                                                               
patients are being charged for healthcare.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE said that  he really struggles with this                                                               
resolution.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                

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SB 60
SB 60 Sectional Analysis.pdf HHSS 3/18/2025 3:15:00 PM
SB 60
SB 60 Version A.pdf HHSS 3/18/2025 3:15:00 PM
SB 60
SB 60 Background Document 2023 Atlantic article.pdf HHSS 3/18/2025 3:15:00 PM
SB 60
SB 60 Background Myalgic-Encephalomyelitis-ME-FactSheet.pdf HHSS 3/18/2025 3:15:00 PM
SB 60
SB 60 Combined BIll Packet 03.10.25.pdf HHSS 3/18/2025 3:15:00 PM
SB 60
SB 60 presentation 2.14.2025.pdf HHSS 3/18/2025 3:15:00 PM
SB 60
SB 60 Version A Sponsor Statement.pdf HHSS 3/18/2025 3:15:00 PM
SB 60
Brent Taylor Medical Board Resume_Redacted.pdf HHSS 3/18/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 14 Sectional Analysis version A.pdf HHSS 3/18/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 14
HB 14 Research-February 2025 Dept of Health 2.10.25.pdf HHSS 3/18/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 14
HB 14 Research FY25 CAMA Component Budget Summary 12.14.23.pdf HHSS 3/18/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 14
HB 14 Version A Fiscal Note DOH Public Assistance.pdf HHSS 3/18/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 14
HB 14 Sponser Statement version A.pdf HHSS 3/18/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 14
HB14 Research-January 2024 Dept of Health 01.31.2024.pdf HHSS 3/18/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 14
HB0014A.pdf HHSS 3/18/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 14
HB 14 Bill Packet 02.17.25.pdf HHSS 3/18/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 14
HB 14 Research FY19 to FY24 CAMA Actuals.pdf HHSS 3/18/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 14
HJR 9 Combined File 03.17.25.pdf HHSS 3/18/2025 3:15:00 PM
HJR 9
HJR 9 LOS as of 03.17.25.pdf HHSS 3/18/2025 3:15:00 PM
HJR 9
HJR009A.pdf HHSS 3/18/2025 3:15:00 PM
HJR 9
HJR 9 Sponsor Statement Version N.pdf HHSS 3/18/2025 3:15:00 PM
HJR 9
HJR 9 Supporting Document 12.24.24.pdf HHSS 3/18/2025 3:15:00 PM
HJR 9
HJR9-LEG-SESS-02-21-2025.pdf HHSS 3/18/2025 3:15:00 PM
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