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03/26/2024 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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HOUSE BILL NO. 259                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act establishing the Council on Human and Sex                                                                          
     Trafficking; and relating to the Council on Domestic                                                                       
     Violence and Sexual Assault."                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:36:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SARAH VANCE, SPONSOR, introduced herself.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT   BALLINGER,  STAFF,   REPRESENTATIVE  SARAH   VANCE,                                                                    
introduced himself.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Vance  stated that  HB  259  was a  critical                                                                    
initiative proposing  to establish the Council  on Human and                                                                    
Sex  Trafficking (CHST)  permanently in  state statute.  The                                                                    
council was  originally established  in December of  2021 by                                                                    
Administrative Order (AO)  328 and played a  pivotal role in                                                                    
combating the  exploitation of Alaskans. By  formalizing its                                                                    
existence  in  statute,  the commitment  to  addressing  the                                                                    
multifaceted challenges posed by  human trafficking would be                                                                    
strengthened. Human traffickers  utilized fraud and coercion                                                                    
to  force  victims  into  servitude  and  commercial  sexual                                                                    
exploitation.  Traffickers lured  victims  with promises  of                                                                    
hard work  opportunities, safe housing, and  the opportunity                                                                    
for  a  better  life,  then  exploited  the  individuals  in                                                                    
numerous  ways. Human  trafficking had  surpassed the  small                                                                    
arms  trade  in  revenue  and generated  an  estimated  $150                                                                    
billion in illegal revenue every year.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative     Vance    introduced     the    PowerPoint                                                                    
Presentation, "HB  259 Council  on Human &  Sex Trafficking"                                                                    
dated March  26, 2024 (copy on  file). She began on  slide 2                                                                    
and  offered some  statistics about  trafficking in  Alaska.                                                                    
Within 48 hours of young  people running away from home, one                                                                    
out  of three  would be  solicited for  sex. In  Alaska, the                                                                    
average age of recruitment was 14  years old to 16 years old                                                                    
and  the average  lifespan once  recruited was  seven years.                                                                    
One in four  homeless women at the  Anchorage Covenant House                                                                    
had been  trafficked for sex  according to a study  that was                                                                    
conducted  in  2017.  Since   2007,  the  human  trafficking                                                                    
hotline  had identified  124 cases  of human  trafficking in                                                                    
Alaska. Nearly  45 percent of trafficked  youth were Alaskan                                                                    
native. She relayed that there  was no typical victim and no                                                                    
typical trafficker.  Victims of  human trafficking  could be                                                                    
of  any  race, national  origin,  religion,  age, gender  or                                                                    
gender  identity,   sexual  orientation,   or  socioeconomic                                                                    
status.   Likewise,  human   traffickers  could   be  family                                                                    
members,   diplomats,   business  owners,   labor   brokers,                                                                    
farmers,  or fishermen.  Studies showed  that Alaska  Native                                                                    
youth    were   disproportionately    affected   by    human                                                                    
trafficking. She  noted that  trafficking was  a preventable                                                                    
crime.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Vance   continued  that  one  of   the  main                                                                    
purposes  of  establishing the  council  in  statute was  to                                                                    
ensure  that preventative  work could  continue. One  of the                                                                    
primary  purposes  was  public  awareness.  Most  people  in                                                                    
Alaska  did  not  know  that  there  was  human  trafficking                                                                    
present in  almost every community.  Young people  were most                                                                    
commonly trafficked through online  means and the prevalence                                                                    
of online grooming had dramatically increased.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:40:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Vance  recounted a  story provided  by Crisis                                                                    
Alaska  about  a 14-year-old  girl  in  Soldotna who  was  a                                                                    
frequent  online video  game player.  The  girl developed  a                                                                    
friendship  with  another person  with  whom  she played  an                                                                    
online  game, who  eventually suggested  that  the two  play                                                                    
games on  other platforms. After some  time, the 14-year-old                                                                    
girl  shared photos  with the  other  individual. The  other                                                                    
individual  was able  to gather  information about  the girl                                                                    
and eventually became engaged in sexual exploitation.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Vance  relayed  that  about  a  decade  ago,                                                                    
former Alaska Governor Sean Parnell  created the Alaska Task                                                                    
Force   on   Crimes   and   Human   Trafficking,   Promoting                                                                    
Prostitution,   and   Sex   Trafficking.  The   task   force                                                                    
coordinated  with  the Cook  Inlet  Tribal  Council and  put                                                                    
together  the  ad  hoc non-governmental  organization  (NGO)                                                                    
working  group on  sex trafficking  in Alaska.  The research                                                                    
from the working  group was foundational to the  work of the                                                                    
current council. The first recommendation  of the task force                                                                    
in 2013 was to establish  a permanent working group on human                                                                    
and sex  trafficking as  a vehicle to  continue the  work of                                                                    
the task  force. Unfortunately, the work  was long neglected                                                                    
until  Governor  Dunleavy  established the  new  council  in                                                                    
2021.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Vance explained  that  CHST  played a  vital                                                                    
role  in the  ongoing  battle against  trafficking that  was                                                                    
referred to  as modern-day slavery. The  council operated on                                                                    
multiple fronts  starting with the  crucial task  of raising                                                                    
awareness about  the pervasive  issue of  human trafficking.                                                                    
By  shedding  light on  the  deceptive  tactics employed  by                                                                    
traffickers, the  council aimed to empower  communities with                                                                    
the   knowledge  to   recognize  and   combat  exploitation.                                                                    
Additionally, the  council engaged in extensive  research to                                                                    
provide   comprehensive  reports   on   the  prevalence   of                                                                    
trafficking in  Alaska, offering valuable insights  into the                                                                    
diverse  forms  of  exploitation.  The  reports  could  help                                                                    
provide  a  foundation  for  informed  decision  making  and                                                                    
strategic planning.  The most recent  report by  the council                                                                    
was  provided  to the  committee  as  a supporting  document                                                                    
(copy on  file). The council actively  proposed solutions to                                                                    
protect  victims  in  addition to  promoting  awareness.  By                                                                    
identifying and  advocating for measures that  could disrupt                                                                    
the  operations  of  traffickers   and  provide  support  to                                                                    
survivors,  the  council  contributed significantly  to  the                                                                    
fight against human trafficking.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Vance advanced to slide  3 and noted that the                                                                    
council's report  from September  2022 had been  provided to                                                                    
the committee (copy  on file). On page 5 of  the report, the                                                                    
recommended action  was to enact state  statutes that placed                                                                    
the council  within the Department  of Public  Safety (DPS),                                                                    
established   the  council   as  a   monitoring  body,   and                                                                    
established  the  term  for  the  council  appointments  and                                                                    
duties.  She stated  that HB  259 was  a fulfillment  of the                                                                    
recommendation.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:45:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Vance  continued to slide 4  and relayed that                                                                    
the  council  would  provide planning  and  coordination  of                                                                    
programs  specific  to  victim services,  education,  public                                                                    
awareness, data  collection and dissemination,  and reducing                                                                    
demand for human and sex  trafficking. The council developed                                                                    
standardized  data and  annual reports,  awarded grants  and                                                                    
provided   audits,  and   increased  education   and  public                                                                    
awareness.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Vance continued  to  slide  5 and  explained                                                                    
that the goal was to  facilitate a smooth and cost-effective                                                                    
transition to  the permanent council. The  intention was for                                                                    
the council to  maintain most of its  current membership and                                                                    
align its  structure with  that of  the Council  on Domestic                                                                    
Violence and Sexual  Assault (CDVSA). She turned  to slide 6                                                                    
and  noted that  additionally,  the council  would share  an                                                                    
executive  director  with   CDVSA  and  additional  expenses                                                                    
associated with  hiring a new director  would be eliminated.                                                                    
The structure of the 17-member  council mirrored AO 328. The                                                                    
fiscal  note was  about  $333,000 in  the  first year  which                                                                    
would  pay for  two new  employees and  the expenses  of the                                                                    
office,  and the  cost would  decrease in  subsequent years.                                                                    
Over time, the council could  return to the legislature with                                                                    
any future  requests as the  responsibilities and  duties of                                                                    
the council  grew. She was  aware that the council  would be                                                                    
unable  to   fulfill  the  same  mandates   that  CDVSA  was                                                                    
currently  working under,  but it  could build  upon current                                                                    
work  to  increase  public   awareness.  She  concluded  the                                                                    
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Vance   read  a   portion  of   the  sponsor                                                                    
statement (copy on file):                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     House Bill 259 not  only recognizes the pervasive issue                                                                    
     of   human  trafficking   but  also   acknowledges  the                                                                    
     critical  role  the  Council  plays  in  combating  it.                                                                    
     Ensuring the Councils   permanence in statute signifies                                                                    
     a   long-term    commitment   to    eradicating   human                                                                    
     trafficking   in  Alaska.   The  Council's   continuous                                                                    
     presence will enhance  the coordination, resources, and                                                                    
     strategies necessary for an  effective response to this                                                                    
     complex problem. By  addressing the ever-present threat                                                                    
     of   human  trafficking,   House  Bill   259  reaffirms                                                                    
     Alaska's dedication to  safeguarding the well-being and                                                                    
     rights of all its residents.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Vance  invited a  testifier from DPS  to make                                                                    
comments.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
BRYAN  BARLOW,  DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT  OF  PUBLIC                                                                    
SAFETY, introduced  himself and noted  that he was  also the                                                                    
chair  of CHST.  He  remarked  that the  bill  was a  worthy                                                                    
effort  and the  council had  conducted important  work. The                                                                    
council  had  many   experienced,  passionate,  and  serious                                                                    
members  who  had  come together  and  collaborated  on  the                                                                    
proposal to work under the  model of one director overseeing                                                                    
both councils.  He noted that  he had seen success  with the                                                                    
model and thought  that it would strike  the balance between                                                                    
being   fiscally  responsible   and   being  effective.   He                                                                    
understood that  there were some concerns  about diminishing                                                                    
the effectiveness of  CDVSA by sharing one  director, but he                                                                    
did not think  there would be negative  consequences. He did                                                                    
not want to  dilute the effectiveness of  either council and                                                                    
wanted to  continue to represent  and care for the  needs of                                                                    
victims. He shared that he was available for questions.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:51:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Edgmon    thought   the   bill    seemed   highly                                                                    
prescriptive. He asked if the  mandate to select two members                                                                    
by majority  vote to serve  on a joint hiring  committee was                                                                    
in statute for CDVSA.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ballinger responded that the  mandate was not in statute                                                                    
because  it was  similar  to  one used  by  the boards  that                                                                    
oversaw  alcohol and  medical marijuana.  He explained  that                                                                    
the new statute would be  designed to allow the two entities                                                                    
to collaborate to  select a director, which would  be new to                                                                    
the  law  because  of  the  fact that  it  would  need  both                                                                    
councils to work together to select a director.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon  explained  that  it  was  his  first  time                                                                    
learning about  the bill. He thought  a 17-person membership                                                                    
seemed too  large. He asked  if there was  any consideration                                                                    
of  reducing the  size to  make the  council more  agile. He                                                                    
shared that  he was one of  11 members on the  Task Force on                                                                    
Broadband and it was difficult  to organize meetings between                                                                    
11 people.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Vance explained  that  she  worked with  the                                                                    
council and  pondered how  she could make  it function  in a                                                                    
way that was  familiar to the legislature.  She relayed that                                                                    
upon  working with  the council,  it became  clear that  the                                                                    
other departments  needed to be  included in  the discussion                                                                    
because  it was  a broad  issue with  a significant  impact.                                                                    
There were  many individuals who  had much to  contribute to                                                                    
the conversation. Each commissioner  or appointee had unique                                                                    
insight  and the  collaborations had  produced helpful  data                                                                    
and research.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Barlow added  that  Co-Chair  Edgmon's observation  was                                                                    
noted. He  agreed that the  council was large;  however, the                                                                    
issue  had  impacted many  different  areas  of society  and                                                                    
numerous viewpoints and experiences  were needed in order to                                                                    
understand how broad  the problem was in  Alaska. He relayed                                                                    
that the  council had  been able to  meet about  every other                                                                    
month. The council  had been successful for  the last couple                                                                    
of years with the help of its committed members.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:56:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan asked how  many members were currently                                                                    
on CDVSA.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Barlow  responded  that  he   believed  there  were  11                                                                    
members.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  relayed that one of  her concerns was                                                                    
that the  executive director  would go  from reporting  to a                                                                    
board  of  11 members  to  reporting  to 28  members  spread                                                                    
across two  different boards. She  thought it seemed  like a                                                                    
setup  for failure.  She noted  that Representative  Vance's                                                                    
presentation  was  focused  on sex  trafficking,  but  human                                                                    
trafficking for  labor purposes was a  broader category. She                                                                    
asked for  more details on  the levels of  human trafficking                                                                    
in the state and the scale of the problem.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Vance  explained that  she referred  to labor                                                                    
trafficking  in the  bill as  human  trafficking, which  was                                                                    
distinctly different from sex  trafficking. There was little                                                                    
known about labor trafficking in  Alaska until recently. She                                                                    
had held a presentation in  the House Judiciary Committee on                                                                    
the topic  and recalled  that there were  about 92  cases of                                                                    
labor  trafficking in  Alaska over  the last  year, and  the                                                                    
cases occurred  most often  in the  fishing industry  and in                                                                    
nail salons.  She noted that it  was a work in  progress and                                                                    
her  focus  was  on  sex trafficking  because  it  was  more                                                                    
prevalent; however,  she did not  want to deny  the presence                                                                    
of labor trafficking.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:00:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Barlow  acknowledged that  the executive  director would                                                                    
have an increased  workload with the two  boards. He offered                                                                    
reassurance that  significant thought had been  put into the                                                                    
decision  and  the goal  was  to  balance effectiveness  and                                                                    
fiscal  responsibility. The  model  had  succeeded in  other                                                                    
areas of  state government.  He thought  that Representative                                                                    
Hannan had a  valid point about the size of  the boards, but                                                                    
he  felt strongly  that the  model would  work well  and not                                                                    
diminish the effectiveness of the council.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan  understood   that  the  alcohol  and                                                                    
marijuana boards operated  under the same model  and had one                                                                    
executive director;  however, the two organizations  had the                                                                    
exact same mission and were  focused on statutory regulatory                                                                    
behavior of a business. She  noted that the concern was that                                                                    
CDVSA already  had a full  plate and the  executive director                                                                    
already had a substantial workload.  She did not want to see                                                                    
the  council  be put  at  risk  and negatively  impacted  or                                                                    
overworked when  it was already  struggling to keep  up with                                                                    
its current workload.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:04:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  stated that she was  concerned that                                                                    
the state  already could not fund  the council sufficiently.                                                                    
She did  not want to set  up the council to  fail. She asked                                                                    
for more  detailed information on  why it would not  be more                                                                    
effective to  implement an entirely separate  council with a                                                                    
different management  structure. She noted that  many of the                                                                    
appointments in  the mission seemed  very similar  to CDVSA.                                                                    
She asked  for clarification on  what the new  council would                                                                    
add that was not already being addressed by CDVSA.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Vance responded  that in  2023, there  was a                                                                    
section  of  a  bill  focused on  crime  that  included  the                                                                    
responsibilities  of  human  sex trafficking  within  CDVSA.                                                                    
There was  much consternation  that the council  was already                                                                    
overwhelmed  by  its  original  mandate.  There  were  other                                                                    
concerns  because the  issue of  trafficking was  distinctly                                                                    
different  because  trafficking  victims and  survivors  had                                                                    
different  needs  than  victims of  domestic  violence.  For                                                                    
example, a  trafficking survivor  was triggered  upon rescue                                                                    
by a  bottle of travel shampoo  and body wash in  the shower                                                                    
because  travel   products  were   the  only   products  the                                                                    
individual  had access  to while  the  individual was  being                                                                    
trafficked.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Vance  thought it  was important to  create a                                                                    
distinction between the two councils  and ensure the success                                                                    
of both.  She spoke  with the  sponsor of  the crime-related                                                                    
bill in  2023 and  was told  that the  intent was  to ensure                                                                    
that  the  issue of  trafficking  was  being addressed.  She                                                                    
began working  with DPS to  determine what could be  done to                                                                    
place the  council in statute  permanently because  the work                                                                    
needed  to continue  and  the council  needed  to grow.  The                                                                    
solution that  emerged from  the discussions  was to  fund a                                                                    
director and  a couple of administrative  support positions.                                                                    
The work  had been neglected  for a  period of time  and was                                                                    
not picked  up again until  2021. The council would  be able                                                                    
to  distribute grants  once the  council  was solidified  in                                                                    
statute. She  relayed that resources  were limited  to those                                                                    
who were  providing services to trafficking  victims and she                                                                    
wanted to provide  the means for the council to  get off the                                                                    
ground.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:09:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  understood that  one of  the fiscal                                                                    
notes stated that additional funding  could be requested for                                                                    
public  awareness  campaigns,  stakeholder  engagement,  and                                                                    
federal authority to receive federal  grants. She thought it                                                                    
might create  competition between  the two  councils because                                                                    
both councils  needed the  same resources.  She asked  if it                                                                    
was a realistic anticipation that  the two councils would be                                                                    
fighting for funds instead of blending together.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Vance  responded  that  as far  as  she  was                                                                    
aware, federal  grants were highly prescriptive.  There were                                                                    
grants that were specific to  human and sex trafficking that                                                                    
CDVSA would  not be  eligible to  receive because  CDVSA was                                                                    
focused on  domestic violence and sexual  assault. There may                                                                    
be overlap in some grants  but CHST would be pursuing grants                                                                    
specific  to trafficking.  She wanted  to offer  reassurance                                                                    
that there  should not be competition  between councils. The                                                                    
work  was  meant to  help  support  victims and  creating  a                                                                    
distinction between  the two councils was  important because                                                                    
human  trafficking  was   often  misidentified  as  domestic                                                                    
violence.  She thought  it would  be a  positive partnership                                                                    
and in no way a competition.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe  asked  if  most  people  who  were                                                                    
trafficked  were  victims  of domestic  assault  and  sexual                                                                    
abuse.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Vance  replied  that  at least  a  third  of                                                                    
traffickers were  familial and trafficking was  likely to be                                                                    
first reported  as domestic  violence. With  more education,                                                                    
it was  easier to identify  trafficking. She added  that the                                                                    
two   councils   sharing   a   director   should   eliminate                                                                    
competition between  the two. The  councils had many  of the                                                                    
same  mandates  and  provided  many of  the  same  types  of                                                                    
services.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:13:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Ortiz  asked  Mr. Ballinger  what  the  most                                                                    
beneficial  impact  on  the  fight  against  human  and  sex                                                                    
trafficking  would be  if the  bill were  to pass.  He asked                                                                    
what would be achieved if the new council was established.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ballinger   replied  that  he  was   likely  the  least                                                                    
equipped person to  answer the question but  he could answer                                                                    
legal  questions. He  thought it  would be  helpful to  have                                                                    
discussions between experts on  creative ways to address the                                                                    
problem.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Vance responded  that the  first thing  that                                                                    
could  happen would  be that  the work  would continue.  She                                                                    
reiterated that  the work  had ceased for  a long  period of                                                                    
time. One of the first  recommendations of the original task                                                                    
force created by Governor Parnell  was to put signage out in                                                                    
public  places  providing  a  hotline  number  to  potential                                                                    
victims. One of the most  important places for the signs was                                                                    
in  airports.  She  wrote  a letter  to  the  Department  of                                                                    
Transportation  and Public  Facilities (DOT)  to ask  if the                                                                    
department was planning on posting  signs in the airports in                                                                    
the state. The  department responded that it  would post the                                                                    
signs but  after some time  had passed, she received  a memo                                                                    
that  it had  not  happened. She  relayed  that three  years                                                                    
passed  and nothing  had changed,  despite  her efforts  and                                                                    
communication with DOT.  She was pleased to  report that due                                                                    
to  the  help from  CDVSA,  signs  were  now posted  in  the                                                                    
bathrooms in  airports in the  state. There were  also plans                                                                    
to put  the signs up on  ferries. The issue was  growing and                                                                    
the  victims  were becoming  younger  and  younger. She  was                                                                    
passionate  about the  work continuing  because the  problem                                                                    
was not going away.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:19:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Ortiz  relayed  that   he  had  requested  a                                                                    
concise summary  of what the  bill would accomplish,  but he                                                                    
realized  it was  a difficult  ask. He  understood that  the                                                                    
bill would raise public awareness of the issue.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Vance  responded  that the  purpose  of  the                                                                    
council  was   much  more   than  simply   spreading  public                                                                    
awareness. Solidifying  the council  in statute  would allow                                                                    
it to  receive and  distribute grants and  provide necessary                                                                    
resources   to  victims.   There   were  minimal   resources                                                                    
currently available to individuals  who had been trafficked.                                                                    
The bill  would allow  for the  acquisition of  more federal                                                                    
dollars and  partnerships within the state  and also provide                                                                    
for more  data gathering  and research. The  state currently                                                                    
had  limited  services  to  provide  help  to  victims,  but                                                                    
establishing the  council in statute  would allow  the state                                                                    
to  receive more  federal dollars  and create  the necessary                                                                    
partnerships  to provide  services that  were not  presently                                                                    
available.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz asked whether  there was any portion or                                                                    
sector  of the  state  that specifically  worked to  prevent                                                                    
human  and   sex  trafficking.   He  asked  if   there  were                                                                    
individuals dedicated specifically to the issue.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Barlow  responded that members  of the Alaska  Bureau of                                                                    
Investigation  were trained  investigators  in  a myriad  of                                                                    
different  crimes  and  were responsible  for  investigating                                                                    
cases of  sex trafficking and  prostitution with a  focus on                                                                    
demand. He did not think  the work done by investigators was                                                                    
enough  to  properly  address   the  problem;  however,  the                                                                    
resources could  only go  so far. The  bill would  allow the                                                                    
state to apply for more grants and acquire more resources.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Ortiz remarked  that no  one could  question                                                                    
the value  of the ongoing  cost to support the  council, but                                                                    
he   wondered  if   it  would   be  Representative   Vance's                                                                    
assessment  that  the  wisest  and  most  effective  use  of                                                                    
additional resources  would be to allocate  additional funds                                                                    
to the  council. He asked  if supporting the  council itself                                                                    
would  be the  most effective  way  to fight  human and  sex                                                                    
trafficking.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Vance  responded  in  the  affirmative.  She                                                                    
shared  that  currently, some  victims  had  nowhere to  go,                                                                    
particularly  those with  mental health  needs. The  council                                                                    
would be  able to pursue  and distribute grants  and provide                                                                    
resources to trafficking  victims if the bill  were to pass.                                                                    
The council could also better  pursue investigations and use                                                                    
dollars  from grants  to fund  investigators. She  wanted to                                                                    
make sure that  when victims were rescued, there  was a safe                                                                    
place for the victims to go.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:25:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp referred to page  5, lines 12 and 13 of                                                                    
the bill which mentioned the  appointment of two members who                                                                    
were mayors or elected officials  in local government to the                                                                    
council.  He was  aware that  mayors  were local  government                                                                    
officials.  He  understood that  the  bill  would allow  the                                                                    
Anchorage mayor  and the presiding officer  of the Anchorage                                                                    
Assembly to be appointed to  the same council for the state.                                                                    
He was unsure if it was  the intent of the sponsor. He asked                                                                    
if geographic diversity in terms of appointees was desired.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Vance replied  that the  mayor of  Anchorage                                                                    
was included  on the  council. She  thought that  Mr. Barlow                                                                    
could speak  to the  geographic diversity. The  larger cites                                                                    
in Alaska  were vulnerable to being  targeted by traffickers                                                                    
and  many  individuals who  lived  in  rural areas  came  to                                                                    
Anchorage.  The  presence  of the  elected  officials  would                                                                    
highlight what was going on in the community.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Barlow  responded  that  geographic  diversity  of  the                                                                    
council was  valued. Initially, the  mayor of  Anchorage and                                                                    
the  mayor  of  Fairbanks   were  members  on  the  council.                                                                    
Currently, the  Anchorage mayor and the  Kotzebue mayor were                                                                    
members.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp relayed  that he  understood that  the                                                                    
bill would allow  two members from Kotzebue to  serve as the                                                                    
only  members. He  understood that  the  council would  hold                                                                    
public meetings with  a minimum of one  meeting per quarter.                                                                    
He  asked  if  Representative   Vance  foresaw  the  council                                                                    
meeting  more  frequently  than it  currently  did  or  less                                                                    
frequently.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Vance    responded   that    there    were                                                                    
subcommittees that  met outside  of the regular  meetings in                                                                    
order  to accomplish  some  of the  tasks.  She thought  the                                                                    
frequency of the meetings would depend upon the objectives.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:28:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Barlow responded  that the quantity or  rate of meetings                                                                    
would be  higher while  the focus of  the council  was still                                                                    
being  established, but  it would  reduce  over time.  There                                                                    
could be  more meetings based on  need at the advice  of the                                                                    
chair.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp  understood that the bill  would enable                                                                    
all 17 members  to receive travel expenses and  per diem. He                                                                    
did not think  the expenses were being accounted  for in any                                                                    
of the  fiscal notes. He  thought it should be  assumed that                                                                    
expenses  would be  incurred.  He noted  that  DPS had  many                                                                    
vacancies and  he wondered why existing  positions could not                                                                    
simply be reclassified instead of  adding new positions that                                                                    
would likely also be vacant.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Barlow  agreed that DPS  had a high number  of vacancies                                                                    
and  it was  a  daily  endeavor to  fill  the vacancies.  He                                                                    
thought  Representative Stapp  had a  valid point  about the                                                                    
per diem  costs. The  council met in  person once  per year,                                                                    
but it tried  to meet remotely when possible in  order to be                                                                    
fiscally responsible.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp  thought there was nothing  in the bill                                                                    
that dictated that  any of the meetings  should be conducted                                                                    
remotely.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:31:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin  thanked   Representative  Vance  for                                                                    
bringing the issue forward. She  had heard that 14 years old                                                                    
to  16 years  old was  the  average age  of recruitment  for                                                                    
trafficking  victims  and  there had  been  124  trafficking                                                                    
cases since  2007 in Alaska,  which would be about  18 cases                                                                    
per year.  She asked  for confirmation that  her information                                                                    
was correct.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Vance  thanked Representative Galvin  for her                                                                    
acknowledgement of  the work. She  thought that  the numbers                                                                    
did not average  out, but when the  federal government first                                                                    
passed trafficking laws, Alaska was  the first place for one                                                                    
of the biggest busts which  involved saving a high number of                                                                    
victims at one.  She stressed that there was  not an average                                                                    
number of cases per year.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin  responded  that it  was  helpful  to                                                                    
understand that the data was  difficult. She understood that                                                                    
the number  of domestic violence and  sexual assault victims                                                                    
every  year  was  substantial.  She  noted  that  there  was                                                                    
overlap  with trafficking  victims,  but she  did not  think                                                                    
that  it should  be  referred  to as  a  subset of  domestic                                                                    
violence and sexual assault. She  asked if the working group                                                                    
with which  Representative Vance  had been  collaborating on                                                                    
trafficking  issues   also  had  experience   with  domestic                                                                    
violence and sexual assault.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Vance responded  in  the affirmative.  There                                                                    
were  many partnerships  and there  was incredible  overlap.                                                                    
She relayed that trafficking was  more common in Alaska than                                                                    
previously thought.  Representative Vance  had a  friend who                                                                    
only  recently  realized that  she  was  being groomed  upon                                                                    
reading  through the  steps of  exploitation, grooming,  and                                                                    
coercion. More  victims would be  helped as  knowledge about                                                                    
sexual exploitation  increased. The  council was  working to                                                                    
identify  sexual exploitation  and help  partners understand                                                                    
how to help  victims. The services and  resources needed for                                                                    
a  victim  of  domestic  violence  or  sexual  assault  were                                                                    
different than  what was  needed to  help victims  of sexual                                                                    
exploitation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:36:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin  commented  that she  was  trying  to                                                                    
understand   how  domestic   violence  and   sexual  assault                                                                    
overlapped with trafficking. She  wondered if there would be                                                                    
a jockeying  for resources  if the two  were combined  or if                                                                    
the  resource types  were different.  She noted  that former                                                                    
Governor Parnell tried to accomplish  a similar task, but it                                                                    
was  a significant  request for  the  commissioners to  meet                                                                    
four times  a year. She  thought it was reasonable  to teach                                                                    
awareness as part of early  learning curriculum. She thought                                                                    
trafficking seemed to  be a subset of  domestic violence and                                                                    
sexual assault but noted that  she did not know enough about                                                                    
the  topic  to categorize  it.  She  understood that  public                                                                    
awareness  was the  most important  strategy and  that funds                                                                    
needed to be dedicated to the effort.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin noted  that page 5 of  the bill stated                                                                    
that one  member of  the council  would represent  an Alaska                                                                    
Native  organization.  The  data stated  that  currently  45                                                                    
percent  of  trafficked  youth  were  identified  as  Alaska                                                                    
Native.  She assumed  that the  membership was  specifically                                                                    
designed to ensure that there  would be input from an Alaska                                                                    
Native organization. She  asked whether Representative Vance                                                                    
had considered  mandating that more  than one member  of the                                                                    
council represent  Alaska Natives,  particularly considering                                                                    
the population was more vulnerable.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:40:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Vance  responded that the language  was broad                                                                    
in order to be inclusive  of many organizations, such as the                                                                    
Alaska Native  Women's Resource  Center. She  explained that                                                                    
the structure  of the  membership was the  work of  CHST and                                                                    
the  council   thought  it  would  be   the  most  effective                                                                    
structure. She fully embraced and  endorsed the structure of                                                                    
the council.  The model  had been working  well and  she was                                                                    
amazed at the dedication to the  work. She had not heard any                                                                    
complaints about  certain members not being  at the meeting,                                                                    
but she  was open to  the recommendations of  the committee.                                                                    
She deferred  to Mr.  Barlow on the  specific outlay  of the                                                                    
membership.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Barlow  reiterated   that  the   structure  had   been                                                                    
effective. He  thought that the council  being solidified in                                                                    
statute would allow it to  pursue specific actions regarding                                                                    
education  and victim  services. The  council would  also be                                                                    
able to meet different needs  within certain groups, such as                                                                    
Alaska  Natives.  He  would  be  open  to  reevaluating  the                                                                    
structure if necessary.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:43:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin asked  how  "effective" was  defined.                                                                    
She had heard that the  number of victims was increasing and                                                                    
she  was concerned.  She understood  that  the members  were                                                                    
working  together   effectively,  but  wondered   about  the                                                                    
overall outcomes  of the  work. She  was also  worried about                                                                    
the costs associated with Representative Stapp's comments.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Barlow responded  that the 17 members  had come together                                                                    
and  worked   on  an  important  cause.   The  members  were                                                                    
collectively  focused and  despite  the  lack of  additional                                                                    
funding and  staff, the council  had completed  the required                                                                    
reports and determined  its areas of focus.  He thought that                                                                    
the  bill represented  the  next step  for  the council  and                                                                    
hoped that  it could  continue its  work, seek  funding, and                                                                    
move forward.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster invited  the  sponsor to  make any  closing                                                                    
comments.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Vance thanked the  committee for its time and                                                                    
for  asking  great  questions.  She  thought  the  questions                                                                    
showed how important the issue was to everyone.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
HB  259  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:47:08 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:49:34 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 259 - Alaska Governor's Council on Human and Sex Trafficking Data Summary Document January 2024.pdf HFIN 3/26/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 259
HB 259 - GCHST-Final-Report-Sept2022.pdf HFIN 3/26/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 259
HB 259 Bill Presentation.pdf HFIN 3/26/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 259
HB 259, 33-LS1075-S - Sectional Analysis.pdf HFIN 3/26/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 259
HB 259 Support Document - CHST Information 01.31.2024.pdf HFIN 3/26/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 259
HB 259 Sponsor Statement - Alaska Council on Human and Sex Traffickings.pdf HFIN 3/26/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 259
SB 67 Sponsor Statement.pdf HFIN 3/26/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 67
SB 67 Explanation of Changes ver. A to ver. B.pdf HFIN 3/26/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 67
SB 67 Public Testimony Rec'd by 051623.pdf HFIN 3/26/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 67
SB 67 Letters of Support Received by 2023-05-03.pdf HFIN 3/26/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 67
SB 67 Sectional Analysis ver. B .pdf HFIN 3/26/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 67
SB 67 Sponsor Statement.pdf HFIN 3/26/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 67
HB 259 Public Testimony Red'd by 032524.pdf HFIN 3/26/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 259
SB 67 Public Testimony Rec'd by 032624.pdf HFIN 3/26/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 67
HB 259 CHST Letter of Support 032624.pdf HFIN 3/26/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 259
HB 259 Public Testimony Rec'd by 040423.pdf HFIN 3/26/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 259