Legislature(2017 - 2018)ADAMS ROOM 519

04/09/2018 01:30 PM FINANCE

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
-- Delayed to 2:00 pm --
+= HB 233 EDUCATION TAX CREDITS; SUNSET; REPEALS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 233(FIN) Out of Committee
+ SB 165 COMPREHENSIVE HEALTH INSURANCE FUND TELECONFERENCED
Moved SB 165 Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
+ HB 306 PERS/TERS DISTRIBUTIONS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
+= HB 399 CORP. TAX: REMOVE EXEMPTIONS/CREDITS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 129 FISH & GAME: OFFENSES;LICENSES;PENALTIES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 129(FIN) Out of Committee
HOUSE BILL NO. 129                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act   relating  to  sport  fishing,   hunting,  or                                                                    
     trapping  licenses,  tags,   or  permits;  relating  to                                                                    
     penalties  for  certain  sport  fishing,  hunting,  and                                                                    
     trapping license  violations; relating  to restrictions                                                                    
     on  the   issuance  of  sport  fishing,   hunting,  and                                                                    
     trapping  licenses;  creating violations  and  amending                                                                    
     fines  and  restitution  for   certain  fish  and  game                                                                    
     offenses;  creating   an  exemption  from   payment  of                                                                    
     restitution for  certain unlawful  takings of  big game                                                                    
     animals;  relating  to commercial  fishing  violations;                                                                    
     allowing lost  federal matching funds from  the Pittman                                                                    
     -   Robertson,  Dingell   -  Johnson/Wallop   -  Breaux                                                                    
     programs  to be  included in  an order  of restitution;                                                                    
     adding   a  definition   of   'electronic  form';   and                                                                    
     providing for an effective date."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:07:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster relayed  that  the committee  heard HB  129                                                                    
earlier in the  day. There had been a  discussion on Section                                                                    
3(h). The  committee had worked  with the Department  of Law                                                                    
and  Legislative   Legal  Services  to  have   an  amendment                                                                    
drafted.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson  asked  if  someone  from  the  Civil                                                                    
Division was online.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:08:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUSAN  COX, WORKERS'  COMPENSATION ATTORNEY,  OFFICE OF  THE                                                                    
ATTORNEY  GENERAL, DEPARTMENT  OF LAW  (via teleconference),                                                                    
introduced herself.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson  had a question regarding  a liability                                                                    
issue in  HB 129. The  example given in the  earlier meeting                                                                    
was her being pulled over in  her boat by a trooper, handing                                                                    
over her phone  that contained her fishing  license, and the                                                                    
trooper  dropping  the  phone   into  the  water.  The  bill                                                                    
indicated  the  trooper  would have  no  liability  for  the                                                                    
phone. She  asked if the  committee was reading  the section                                                                    
correctly  referring to  the bill  on page  2, line  25. She                                                                    
asked if the language provided immunity.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Cox  responded that  the  language  in the  bill  would                                                                    
provide immunity from any liability  regarding damage to the                                                                    
devise which would include dropping it in the water.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Wilson  thought   there   should  be   some                                                                    
responsibility on  the part of  the trooper. If  someone had                                                                    
their  fishing  license  and  hadn't  broken  the  law,  she                                                                    
wondered if there was a way to take care of the issue.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Cox responded  that the  way the  bill was  written, it                                                                    
provided  immunity  precluding  any  lawsuit.  The  language                                                                    
could  be  changed  to  eliminate  the  immunity  leaving  a                                                                    
possibility  open. She  understood  there  was an  amendment                                                                    
that had been drafted to  prove an exception to the immunity                                                                    
for intentional misconduct on the part of a peace officer.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson would  wait  to  further address  the                                                                    
issue until the amendments were brought up.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Grenn  MOVED  to   ADOPT  Amendment  1,  30-                                                                    
GH1687\J.1 (Bullard, 4/2/18) (copy on file):                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 27, through page 3, line 5:                                                                                   
          Delete all material.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Grenn explained  that the  amendment deleted                                                                    
material  that was  added by  the House  Judiciary Committee                                                                    
regarding the verification of low  income licensees - people                                                                    
who  were looking  to  get the  low-income  price for  their                                                                    
sport  fishing license  or  hunting  license. Initially,  he                                                                    
thought  the  amendment was  a  good  addition. However,  in                                                                    
talking  with the  Department of  Fish and  Game (DFG),  the                                                                    
department  would  need  to  hire  short-term  non-permanent                                                                    
staff  to cover  the  peak season  from  June to  September.                                                                    
Since  the  department  had already  purchased  their  paper                                                                    
license stock,  they would have  to buy and print  new stock                                                                    
costing the state an  additional $31,000. Additionally, they                                                                    
would have  to enhance their  computer system in  the amount                                                                    
of $8,000.  He referred  to the  fiscal note  with component                                                                    
number  479.   He  thought   Ms.  Petraborg   could  provide                                                                    
verification. Fraud had not been  a problem in the past when                                                                    
using  these   types  of  licenses.  In   talking  with  the                                                                    
department,  he reported  they were  not entirely  sure that                                                                    
external  vendors  like  Walmart  or  Sportsman's  Warehouse                                                                    
would  be able  to  sell low-income  licenses  due to  their                                                                    
inability to  verify income levels. He  thought the addition                                                                    
in the  House Judiciary Committee grew  government too large                                                                    
and increased  the fiscal note  for the bill. He  opined the                                                                    
state could do better without it.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kawasaki referred  to  page 2,  line 27.  He                                                                    
wondered about  the deletion  of material.  He asked  if the                                                                    
current   costs   for   resident  hunting,   trapping,   and                                                                    
sportfishing  licenses  were deleted.  Representative  Grenn                                                                    
responded that it ended on page 3, line 5.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:13:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kawasaki relayed  that starting  on page  2,                                                                    
line  28  it  showed  the resident  hunting,  trapping,  and                                                                    
fishing sport  license fee  at $75.  Following the  fee, the                                                                    
bill talked about  how a person could  obtain a lower-income                                                                    
license on page  2, line 29. It also outlined  that proof of                                                                    
eligibility was required. He suggested  that by deleting the                                                                    
section,   it  would   also   delete  residential   hunting,                                                                    
trapping,  and sport  fishing licenses  and  the ability  to                                                                    
have a lower-income fee.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Pruitt  commented that the language  that was                                                                    
contained  was already  part of  statute. He  indicated that                                                                    
only  the  highlighted  portions  on page  2  reflected  the                                                                    
changes made in the  House Judiciary Committee. He suggested                                                                    
that by deleting  it, the committee would  be deleting those                                                                    
changes.  The committee  would not  be deleting  the statute                                                                    
that currently  existed. He  pointed to  Section 4  where it                                                                    
stated  that  AS 16.05.034(a)(6)  was  amended  to read.  It                                                                    
meant  that the  current statute  was "X"  and it  was being                                                                    
amended with  the black  line. Representative  Grenn thought                                                                    
it reverted back to current statute.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson was  unsure how  to get  a low-income                                                                    
license. She wondered  if someone had to apply  in person to                                                                    
DFG. Representative Grenn deferred to Ms. Petraborg.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:15:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CAROL   PETRABORG,    DIRECTOR,   ADMINISTRATIVE   SERVICES,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND  GAME (via teleconference), responded                                                                    
that currently,  the low-income licenses could  be purchased                                                                    
at any  DFG vendor. There  was an  affidavit on the  back of                                                                    
the license  where the licensee  signed verifying  that they                                                                    
met  the  low-income requirements.  If  the  changes in  the                                                                    
amendment were adopted, then the  vendors would no longer be                                                                    
able to issue licenses. It would  move all of the traffic to                                                                    
DFG  where the  department  would have  to  verify the  low-                                                                    
income  limits  just  like  the   department  did  with  the                                                                    
permanent identification  cards. It could deter  people from                                                                    
purchasing  a  license. It  would  certainly  slow down  the                                                                    
process, and there would be associated costs.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson asked about  signing an affidavit. Ms.                                                                    
Petraborg responded  that the  department did  not typically                                                                    
verify  the information.  However,  they could  be asked  to                                                                    
present  the  documentation  by  a  trooper  in  the  field.                                                                    
Historically, the  department had not seen  gross negligence                                                                    
in the  issuance of such licenses.  There were approximately                                                                    
18,000 licenses sold each year.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson asked if a  person would have to carry                                                                    
proof  of  income with  them  while  fishing. Ms.  Petraborg                                                                    
replied that the troopers might  ask such questions. She was                                                                    
unclear about  a timeframe when  the information  would have                                                                    
to be presented.  She did not believe the  person would have                                                                    
to have low-income verification on their person.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson  asked someone from DFG  to review the                                                                    
process.  She  was  fairly certain  troopers  would  not  be                                                                    
asking income  questions in the  field. She did not  have to                                                                    
have an explanation in the current meeting.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Gara  wondered about the  meaning of  "Delete all                                                                    
material." He  thought that all  that would be  deleted were                                                                    
the changes.  He asked Representative Grenn  to triple check                                                                    
the issue before the bill was heard on the floor.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson WITHDREW her OBJECTION.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, Amendment 1 was ADOPTED.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 2, 30-                                                                             
GH1687\J.3 (Bullard, 4/4/18) (copy on file):                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 21:                                                                                                           
          Delete "30"                                                                                                           
          Insert "90"                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Gara MOVED to AMEND Amendment 2.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson OBJECTED.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Gara spoke to his amendment to Amendment 2.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 20:                                                                                                           
          Delete "in"                                                                                                           
          Insert "to"                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:20:31 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:20:48 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Gara  noticed when reviewing  the bill,  in order                                                                    
to not  be convicted, a  person would have to  present proof                                                                    
in the  office. A person  might live in a  community without                                                                    
an  office.  He  was  hoping   the  person  could  send  the                                                                    
information to an  office. The purpose of  the amendment was                                                                    
to also be  able to send the proof to  an office rather than                                                                    
having to get on an airplane to travel to an office.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson asked  if  the  committee could  hear                                                                    
from the department.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster asked if Ms. Petraborg was available.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:22:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COLONEL STEVE  HALL, WILDLIFE TROOPER, DEPARTMENT  OF PUBLIC                                                                    
SAFETY (via  teleconference), reported that the  change from                                                                    
"in"  to "to"  on line  20 would  satisfy Vice-Chair  Gara's                                                                    
intent. It was essentially what happened presently.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson asked  if  someone would  be able  to                                                                    
send  the information  to  any  office to  show  proof of  a                                                                    
license  on   the  date  that   they  did  not   have  their                                                                    
verification with them.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Colonel Hall responded that it  would allow them to send the                                                                    
information to an office of  the arresting agency such as an                                                                    
office of the Alaska Wildlife State Troopers.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson had hoped  the answer would be, "yes."                                                                    
Colonel  Hall  responded that  it  was  essentially a  "yes"                                                                    
answer,  however, the  difference  between the  DFG and  the                                                                    
Alaska  Wildlife  Troopers  had   to  do  with  transfer  of                                                                    
information. The  transfer of information  would have  to go                                                                    
to an  office of the arresting  agency based on the  rest of                                                                    
the sentence.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson  WITHDREW her OBJECTION  to Conceptual                                                                    
Amendment 1 to Amendment 2.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
There  being NO  OBJECTION,  it was  so ordered.  Conceptual                                                                    
Amendment 1 to Amendment 2 was ADOPTED.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Gara presented closing  comments for Amendment 2.                                                                    
He suggested  that 90 days  was a reasonable amount  of time                                                                    
to present information.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson WITHDREW her OBJECTION.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There  being  NO  OBJECTION,  Amendment  2  as  amended  was                                                                    
ADOPTED.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Pruitt  MOVED to  ADOPT Amendment 3  (copy on                                                                    
file):                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 26:                                                                                                           
          Delete "any"                                                                                                          
          Following "devise":                                                                                                   
               Insert, "except that a piece officer may be                                                                      
          liable for civil damages that are the result of                                                                       
          the peace officer's intentional misconduct"                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kawasaki OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Pruitt explained  that  the amendment  would                                                                    
not  provide complete  and total  immunity in  a case  where                                                                    
there was misconduct.  He asked the colonel  whether a peace                                                                    
officer  would take  physical hold  of an  electronic devise                                                                    
displaying  a  person's license.  He  asked  the colonel  to                                                                    
distinguish between the point of  viewing a license versus a                                                                    
point of search. He provided a hypothetical scenario.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Colonel  Hall replied  that a  sequence of  events could  be                                                                    
that  an individual  holds  up their  device  to show  their                                                                    
license to a trooper keeping it  in their hands. It might be                                                                    
that an  individual handed the  device to a trooper  to view                                                                    
the screen.  Depending on the  size, the picture  might have                                                                    
to  be expanded.  The circumstance  could  occur either  way                                                                    
where it was  in the trooper's hand or the  owner's hand. He                                                                    
deferred to the Department of Law.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:28:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AARON  PETERSON, ATTORNEY  IV,  CRIMINAL  OFFICE OF  SPECIAL                                                                    
PROSECUTION,   DEPARTMENT  OF   LAW  (via   teleconference),                                                                    
replied  that in  a  scenario where  a  trooper was  holding                                                                    
someone's devise to  view a license and a  text came through                                                                    
saying that  a person  took way over  limit and  the trooper                                                                    
happened to  know that  person was  down river,  the trooper                                                                    
could use  the text  as information to  initiate proceedings                                                                    
against the  person that  sent the  text. It  was akin  to a                                                                    
plain view search.  It would be different if  a trooper were                                                                    
to  go  into the  text  messages  without authorization.  If                                                                    
someone was worried  that their friends were  going to start                                                                    
texting, they could  put the phone in airplane  mode or take                                                                    
whatever remedial measures that might be necessary.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Pruitt asked whether  it was typical practice                                                                    
for an office to take a  device into their hands or to allow                                                                    
the owner to hold the device for them.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Peterson   responded  that  it  depended   on  how  DFG                                                                    
developed the  electronic license.  Currently, there  was no                                                                    
electronic license, therefore, there  was nothing to give to                                                                    
a trooper. He could not  speak from past experience what had                                                                    
happened.  A picture  of  a license  was  not technically  a                                                                    
legal license. He reported there  had been several proposals                                                                    
talked about in the bill and  in committee. One of the ideas                                                                    
was to have  a QR code that popped on  a person's phone that                                                                    
then  the  troopers   or  just  a  picture   of  a  license.                                                                    
Everything in between the two  ideas have been discussed. It                                                                    
would  really  depend  on  what was  developed  such  as  an                                                                    
application. He spoke about limited  or no bandwidth being a                                                                    
challenge.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Pruitt surmised  that not  enough was  known                                                                    
yet.  He thought  the  amendment did  not  do everything  he                                                                    
needed but was  better than what was currently  in the bill.                                                                    
At  least  if there  was  some  intentional misconduct,  the                                                                    
owner of  the device  would have some  sort of  recourse. He                                                                    
asked members to support his amendment.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:32:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kawasaki WITHDREW his OBJECTION.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
There being  NO OBJECTION,  it was  so ordered.  Amendment 3                                                                    
was ADOPTED.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Gara  reviewed the  fiscal notes  for HB  129. He                                                                    
began  with  an  indeterminate fiscal  note,  OMB  Component                                                                    
3134,  from  the  Department of  Administration  (DOA).  The                                                                    
appropriation  was   Shared  Services  of  Alaska   and  the                                                                    
allocation  was accounting.  There  was a  slight change  in                                                                    
fines and restitution. The  Department of Administration had                                                                    
a  roll  in  receiving  the   fines.  The  fiscal  note  was                                                                    
indeterminate because people had  never really kept track of                                                                    
small amounts of money in the past.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson understood  that no  one kept  track,                                                                    
but she  relayed that the  indeterminate portion was  in the                                                                    
operating expenditure  rather than the fund  source. She did                                                                    
not believe the bill changed  such that the department would                                                                    
be  adding any  positions or  needing any  extra money.  She                                                                    
could understand  if the indeterminate  portion was  part of                                                                    
revenue without any extra revenue.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Gara responded  that  Representative Wilson  was                                                                    
correct.  The  explanation  had  to  do  with  a  change  in                                                                    
revenue. However,  the fiscal note  had to do with  a change                                                                    
in costs.  He agreed it was  correct to ask why,  because it                                                                    
was  not explained  in the  fiscal note.  He wanted  to hear                                                                    
from DOA.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:35:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SYLVAN    ROBB,   DEPUTY    COMMISSIONER,   DEPARTMENT    OF                                                                    
ADMINISTRATION,   explained  that   the   fiscal  note   was                                                                    
indeterminate because  the role that Shared  Services played                                                                    
in the  bill was that when  fines and fees were  assessed by                                                                    
the  court  and  not  collected, they  were  transferred  to                                                                    
Shared  Services of  Alaska, which  did debt  collection for                                                                    
the State  of Alaska. Currently,  all of the fines  and fees                                                                    
came over  in the  aggregate. The  department did  not track                                                                    
which ones came  from DFG or other  departments where people                                                                    
might accrue a  debt to the State of  Alaska. The department                                                                    
had  no  way  of  knowing  what  percentage  was  from  DFG,                                                                    
therefore, she  did not know  what the increase might  be as                                                                    
the result of the bill.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson asked  if it  was possible  DOA would                                                                    
have to hire  additional positions in 2020.  She wondered if                                                                    
the department  saw any of  the revenue. Ms.  Robb responded                                                                    
that  debt to  the State  of Alaska  that was  collected was                                                                    
returned to  the general fund. The  funds did not go  to the                                                                    
division or to the department that  was owed. In the case of                                                                    
the fiscal  note, the fines  and fees assessed by  the court                                                                    
system did not go to DFG.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson wondered  if DOA would have  to make a                                                                    
budget  request for  additional  people in  the future.  Ms.                                                                    
Robb responded that they currently  used a vendor to collect                                                                    
debts. They operated on a fee  basis. If they needed to hire                                                                    
additional positions to collect  the additional debts, there                                                                    
would  be no  costs to  the state.  They took  a portion  of                                                                    
whatever debt was collected.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson  suggested that if a  vendor was being                                                                    
used, then  the number  would not  be indeterminate.  If the                                                                    
vendor was basing it on fees  there would not be any cost to                                                                    
DOA. She  thought that  was what Ms.  Robb had  just stated.                                                                    
Ms.  Robb replied  that DOA  did  not know  what the  impact                                                                    
would be since she did not  know the impact of the bill. Her                                                                    
understanding  was  that the  idea  behind  the increase  in                                                                    
fines was to  deter people from breaking  DFG's rules. There                                                                    
were several unknowns in terms of what the impact might be.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson  wondered  how   a  vendor  would  be                                                                    
impacted if the state was  utilizing a vendor and the vendor                                                                    
was charging a fee. She would do more research.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Gara indicated that if  the bill passed, no money                                                                    
would be  put into the  budget, whether the fiscal  note was                                                                    
indeterminate  or  zero.  He thought  the  fiscal  note  was                                                                    
okay.it sounded like  there would be no  change in operating                                                                    
costs  for DOA.  However, there  might  be a  change in  the                                                                    
revenue received. He  suggested Ms. Robb took a  look at the                                                                    
fiscal  note  when the  bill  moved  along. He  thought  the                                                                    
indeterminate  portion  needed to  be  in  the revenue  part                                                                    
rather than the operating part.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Robb replied  that  the department  would  be happy  to                                                                    
reexamine the fiscal note.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Gara moved  to fiscal  note, OMB  Component 479,                                                                    
from  DFG.  The  appropriation  was  for  Statewide  Support                                                                    
Services   and  the   allocation   was  for   administrative                                                                    
services. He thought the fiscal  note might be amended based                                                                    
on the  amendment from  Representative Grenn.  It had  to do                                                                    
with the  administration of the low-income  license fees. He                                                                    
thought there might  be a new fiscal note  that followed the                                                                    
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Gara reviewed fiscal  note 4, OMB Component 2746,                                                                    
a  zero fiscal  note from  the Department  of Public  Safety                                                                    
(DPS). The  appropriation was for the  Alaska State Troopers                                                                    
and the allocation was for the Alaska Wildlife Troopers.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Gara   reviewed  the   last  fiscal   note,  OMB                                                                    
component  2175,   from  DPS.  The  appropriation   was  for                                                                    
Statewide Support  Services, and the allocation  was for the                                                                    
Commissioner's Office. The note had a zero fiscal impact.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:40:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tilton referred  to page 6 of  the bill which                                                                    
indicated an  inflation proofing measure every  5 years. She                                                                    
did not  see this  noted in  any of the  fiscal notes.  In a                                                                    
previous bill the  finance committee heard there  was a cost                                                                    
for inflation proofing  in a fiscal note. She did  not see a                                                                    
cost  for  inflation  proofing  in  the  current  bill.  She                                                                    
wondered if the cost was being absorbed.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Gara  asked if  Ms.  Petraborg  could look  into                                                                    
Representative  Tilton's point  of  whether  fines could  be                                                                    
changed over  time. He wondered  whether there needed  to be                                                                    
any statement in the DGF  fiscal note about revenue in later                                                                    
years. Ms.  Petraborg responded that they  were all criminal                                                                    
in nature.  Therefore, none  of the funds  would go  to DFG.                                                                    
Rather, the funds would go into the general fund.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Gara  asked Representative Tilton to  restate her                                                                    
question. Representative  Tilton relayed  that on page  6 of                                                                    
the bill it  stated that beginning on July 2023  and every 5                                                                    
years  thereafter, the  department recalculated  and updated                                                                    
by  regulation the  restitution amounts  provided. Inflation                                                                    
proofing occurred  every 5 years.  In a previous  bill heard                                                                    
by the  committee, there was  a cost to  inflation proofing.                                                                    
She wondered  if such a  cost would  be shown on  the fiscal                                                                    
notes.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Peterson responded that he  did not have any information                                                                    
about the fiscal note or about  what it would cost to adjust                                                                    
for inflation.  It was  his understanding  that there  was a                                                                    
method established  in SB 91  [Legislation passed in  2016 -                                                                    
Short Title: OMNIBUS CRIM LAW  & PROCEDURE; CORRECTIONS] for                                                                    
crimes that involved a financial  threshold. He presumed the                                                                    
same sort of method would be utilized.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:42:39 PM                                                                                                                    
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2:43:07 PM                                                                                                                    
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Co-Chair Foster  directed his staff to  contact the creators                                                                    
of the fiscal notes to see if an adjustment could be made.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson  did not want  it added to  the fiscal                                                                    
note. However,  she suggested that  his staff might  want to                                                                    
talk to  the Department  of Labor and  Workforce Development                                                                    
(DLWD). What  she had seen in  some of the fiscal  notes was                                                                    
that the  department had already  had done some of  the work                                                                    
regarding inflation.  It was a mathematical  computation and                                                                    
would not  take extra money.  She did not want  to encourage                                                                    
another fiscal note.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Seaton  MOVED to  report  CSHB  129 (FIN)  out  of                                                                    
Committee   with   individual    recommendations   and   the                                                                    
accompanying fiscal notes.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CSHB  129  (FIN)  was  REPORTED out  of  committee  with  an                                                                    
"amend"  recommendation and  with one  new zero  fiscal note                                                                    
from DFG;  one new indeterminate  fiscal note from  the DOA;                                                                    
and one previously published zero fiscal note: FN4 (DPS).                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:45:22 PM                                                                                                                    
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2:45:26 PM                                                                                                                    
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Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 233 Northrim AK Education Tax Credits Legislation Letter.pdf HFIN 4/9/2018 1:30:00 PM
HB 233
SB 165 Additional Documents CMS Letter Approving Alaska's State Innovation Waiver 4.3.18.pdf HFIN 4/9/2018 1:30:00 PM
SB 165
SB165 Additional Documents ACHI Fund 4.3.18.pdf HFIN 4/9/2018 1:30:00 PM
SB 165
SB165 Sectional Analysis ver A 4.3.18.pdf HFIN 4/9/2018 1:30:00 PM
SB 165
SB165 Sponsor Statement 4.3.18.pdf HFIN 4/9/2018 1:30:00 PM
SB 165
SB165 Supporting Document - Alaska Commission on Aging 4.3.18.pdf HFIN 4/9/2018 1:30:00 PM
SB 165
01.23.18 Speaker Edgmon Transmittal Letter PERS & TRS.PDF HFIN 4/9/2018 1:30:00 PM
HB 306
HB 306 Sectional Analysis.pdf HFIN 4/9/2018 1:30:00 PM
HB 306
HB 399 Additional Documents - Federal Codes, 26 USC Sections 21 to 54AA.PDF HFIN 4/9/2018 1:30:00 PM
HB 399
HB 399 Additional Documents - Indirect Expenditure Report Federal Credits.pdf HFIN 4/9/2018 1:30:00 PM
HB 399
HB 399 Additional Documents - Indirect Expenditure Report Stranded Gas.pdf HFIN 4/9/2018 1:30:00 PM
HB 399
HB 399 Additional Documents - Indirect Expenditure Report Foreign Royalty.pdf HFIN 4/9/2018 1:30:00 PM
HB 399
HB 399 Additional Documents - Indirect Expenditure Report Reduced Rate Capital Gains.pdf HFIN 4/9/2018 1:30:00 PM
HB 399
HB 399 Additional Documents CIT Sector Report FY 2017 3.26.18.pdf HFIN 4/9/2018 1:30:00 PM
HB 399
HB 399 Additional Documents DOR Letter 3.26.18.pdf HFIN 4/9/2018 1:30:00 PM
HB 399
HB 399 Sponsor Statement 3.26.18.pdf HFIN 4/9/2018 1:30:00 PM
HB 399
HB 399 Sectional Sectional Analysis ver O 3.26.18.pdf HFIN 4/9/2018 1:30:00 PM
HB 399
HB 233 - Amendment #2.pdf HFIN 4/9/2018 1:30:00 PM
HB 233
HB 233 - Amendment #1.pdf HFIN 4/9/2018 1:30:00 PM
HB 233
HB 129 - Amendment #3.pdf HFIN 4/9/2018 1:30:00 PM
HB 129
HB 399 - AOGA Comments - 4.9.2018.pdf HFIN 4/9/2018 1:30:00 PM
HB 399
HB 399 RDC letter opposing HB 399.pdf HFIN 4/9/2018 1:30:00 PM
HB 399
HB 233 2018 03 29 UAF CFOS ETC HB 233.pdf HFIN 4/9/2018 1:30:00 PM
HB 233
HB233 SB116 PWSSC support.pdf HFIN 4/9/2018 1:30:00 PM
HB 233
SB 116
HB 233 Support Letter Sitnasuak 2018 (005).pdf HFIN 4/9/2018 1:30:00 PM
HB 233
HB 233 Support.pdf HFIN 4/9/2018 1:30:00 PM
HB 233