Legislature(2023 - 2024)BARNES 124

03/02/2023 10:15 AM House ENERGY

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10:15:21 AM Start
10:16:35 AM HB74
10:42:10 AM Presentation: Green Hydrogen and Alaskan Geothermal
11:16:15 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 74 GEOTHERMAL RESOURCES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+ Presentation: Green Hydrogen and Alaskan TELECONFERENCED
Geothermal by Paul Fuhs, CEO, Alaska Hydrogen
Industries
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                  HB  74-GEOTHERMAL RESOURCES                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:16:35 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAUSCHER announced  that the first order  of business would                                                               
be HOUSE BILL  NO. 74, "An Act relating  to geothermal resources;                                                               
relating  to  the  definition   of  'geothermal  resources';  and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:17:33 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
PAUL CRAIG, President, GeoAlaska,  LLC, stated that GeoAlaska has                                                               
geothermal  exploration  permits  on Mount  Spurr  and  Augustine                                                               
Island.  He said that GeoAlaska  and Ignis Energy have worked out                                                               
an  agreement   to  partner  together   in  efforts   to  develop                                                               
geothermal  energy  at these  sites.    He expressed  GeoAlaska's                                                               
support for HB  74, as it is a necessary  step in the development                                                               
of geothermal  resources.  He  argued that the current  length of                                                               
time for permits  under current statute is too  short to discover                                                               
the feasibility of  geothermal plants.  He said  that the current                                                               
instability of  royalty structures  also makes it  more difficult                                                               
to  secure  investors.   He  stated  that the  oldest  geothermal                                                               
project in the  world was created in 1904 in  Tuscany, Italy, and                                                               
it is still producing geothermal energy today.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:26:40 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
GUY  OLIVER,  PhD,  Leader,  Geoscience  and  Exploration,  Ignis                                                               
Energy, expressed Ignis  Energy's support for HB  74, as written.                                                               
He  explained  that  Ignis  Energy   is  a  worldwide  leader  in                                                               
connecting different  sources of  energy with  geothermal sources                                                               
of energy  in order to  meet energy demand.   He said  that Ignis                                                               
has been doing work in Alaska for  over 20 years, with the aim to                                                               
greatly  increase  the  development of  Alaska's  "underutilized"                                                               
geothermal resource  potential.  He  said that the extra  time to                                                               
explore provided  in HB 74  would be  a vital step  in increasing                                                               
geothermal power, especially because  the weather patterns in the                                                               
state limit  the work that  can be  done during certain  parts of                                                               
the year.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:33:11 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX  asked when the  projects at Mount  Spurr and                                                               
Augustine Island could be expected to start producing energy.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DR. OLIVER answered that, according  to plan, geophysical data is                                                               
expected this year, with  a test well by the summer  of 2024.  He                                                               
stated that  the total  time to start  producing energy  would be                                                               
five or six years from now.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:36:14 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
GEOFF SIMPSON, Landman,  Cyrq Energy, stated that  Cyrg Energy is                                                               
a  subsidiary of  Macquarie Infrastructure  and Real  Assets, the                                                               
largest  infrastructure company  in the  world.   He stated  that                                                               
Cyrg  has  10  ongoing  geothermal  projects  around  the  world,                                                               
including in Alaska.   He expressed Cyrq Energy's  support for HB
74.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:38:37 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAUSCHER opened public testimony on HB 74.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:39:09 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
PAUL FUHS, CEO, Alaska Hydrogen  Industries, testified in support                                                               
of HB 74.  He stated  that geothermal energy would be sustainable                                                               
in the  long-term, and  the provisions in  the bill  changing the                                                               
royalty structure would create stability for geothermal energy.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:40:32 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAUSCHER,  after ascertaining  that there  was no  one else                                                               
who wished to testify, closed public testimony on HB 74.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
[HB 74 was held over.]                                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
House Energy Committee 3.2.2023 pdf-compressed.pdf HENE 3/2/2023 10:15:00 AM
Alaska Green Hydrogen Geothermal