Legislature(2023 - 2024)DAVIS 106

03/21/2023 05:15 PM House EDUCATION

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05:18:19 PM HB65
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             HB 65-INCREASE BASE STUDENT ALLOCATION                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:18:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  RUFFRIDGE announced  that  the only  order of  business                                                               
would  be HOUSE  BILL  NO.  65, "An  Act  relating to  education;                                                               
increasing  the base  student allocation;  and  providing for  an                                                               
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:19:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RUFFRIDGE opened public testimony on HB 65.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:19:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANDY HOLLEMAN, representing self, stated  that he wished to speak                                                               
to what  happens when there  are occasional increases  in funding                                                               
followed by  years of no increases.   He offered his  belief that                                                               
good programs  have to be  trimmed a  little every year,  or they                                                               
may disappear.   He  said that in  the Anchorage  School District                                                               
(ASD), every  spot goes  to support  running the  organization or                                                               
working  directly towards  kids  in a  positive  way; one  cannot                                                               
expect an organization to be  dynamic and doing new and different                                                               
things when the programs are  constantly being trimmed.  He urged                                                               
the committee to  make an adjustment so that  schools can sustain                                                               
what they  are doing  now and  make it a  practice to  make small                                                               
adjustments each year  so good programs can continue.   He opined                                                               
that the  state of things  now systematically  discourages people                                                               
from doing better.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:22:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DANIELLE  LOGAN, representing  self, testified  in support  of HB
65.   She stated that  support staff  are routinely on  the short                                                               
end  of the  stick  during budget  cuts.   Paraprofessionals  are                                                               
being asked to  do jobs outside of their areas  of expertise, and                                                               
when staff  are being  pulled in  many different  directions, the                                                               
students  suffer.   Support  staff  are  essential to  running  a                                                               
school,  she  said, and  flat  funding  is not  working  anymore;                                                               
therefore, she opined the base  student allocation (BSA) needs to                                                               
be raised.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:25:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
IRENE BOLL,  representing self, stated  that she was  running for                                                               
the Anchorage  School Board  and wished  to address  the critical                                                               
issue  of  public education  funding.    Despite the  fundamental                                                               
importance  of  public  education, public  education  funding  is                                                               
severely  lacking in  many  areas,  she said,  which  is why  she                                                               
supported the proposed  legislation.  In many  areas, the current                                                               
allocation  is  not enough  and  inadequate  funding leads  to  a                                                               
myriad  of issues  in  the  education system.    She opined  that                                                               
increasing the  BSA would  improve the  quality of  education for                                                               
students and provide educators with the resources they need.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:27:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JANICE BANTA, representing  self, testified in support  of HB 65,                                                               
and related  that she was  a retired school counselor  and raised                                                               
three children  who attended  school in  ASD.   She spoke  to her                                                               
concerns about  proposed cuts to  educators across the  state and                                                               
the  schools  having  extraordinarily difficult  challenges,  she                                                               
said,  and  she provided  brief  examples.   She  questioned  how                                                               
student's  needs  can  be  adequately met  while  one  person  is                                                               
expected to do the job of two.   She related one of her children,                                                               
after receiving  higher education outside Alaska,  may not return                                                               
to  Alaska to  practice in  his selected  field due  to dwindling                                                               
population  and stagnant  financial support  for education.   She                                                               
implored the committee  to vote yes on HB 65  to increase the BSA                                                               
and improve the quality of education in the state.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:30:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MANETTE STANLEY,  representing self,  testified in support  of HB
65.   She said Alaska  is the  foundation of future  success, and                                                               
success comes in the guise  of well-educated youths who are given                                                               
a wide variety of skills;  however, that cannot happen at schools                                                               
that are  not appropriately  funded.  She  stated that  she hoped                                                               
the committee  had done  their research  and found  that Alaska's                                                               
schools are vastly underfunded.   She related that 15 states have                                                               
higher BSAs  than Alaska's,  including four  more that  are above                                                               
$10,000.  She  said she hoped to convey the  reality that schools                                                               
are in demand  to provide high quality education  with a fraction                                                               
of  the  necessary  funding  which,   she  said,  is  simply  not                                                               
possible.    Students,  in addition  to  communities  across  the                                                               
state, would be devastated if  they lose access to facilities and                                                               
resources  as  a  result  of   underfunding.    She  thanked  the                                                               
committee for their consideration.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:32:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMPHIS STANLEY,  representing self,  testified in support  of HB
65,  and offered  a personal  story  of attending  a school  swim                                                               
program, which opened more opportunities  for learning and taught                                                               
him lifesaving  skills.  He said  that schools have lost  so much                                                               
in recent years that it would be detrimental to lose any more.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:33:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALEX RUSSIN, Cordova School District,  testified in support of HB
65  and  relayed   that  he  was  the   Cordova  School  District                                                               
superintendent  as  well as  the  director  of curriculum,  human                                                               
resources, special  education, federal  programs, and  many other                                                               
areas.    He said  he  shared  this  information to  exhibit  the                                                               
multitude  of  roles that  administrators  play  in small  school                                                               
districts.    The  current   rhetoric  generalizing  that  school                                                               
district  financial  resources  are bloated  with  administrative                                                               
costs need to change, he said, as  it is inaccurate.  The BSA had                                                               
only increased $30 since 2016 and  the rise in costs and services                                                               
created  significant   loss  in   purchasing  power   for  school                                                               
districts,  he explained.   Passage  of HB  65 would  provide the                                                               
Cordova School District with a  majority of the funding necessary                                                               
to meet its budgetary shortfall for  fiscal year 2024 (FY 24) due                                                               
to increased  costs, and he  said he looked forward  to following                                                               
the committee's conversations on education.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
5:36:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DIANE GUBATAYAO, Ketchikan School  Board, Testified in support of                                                               
HB 65.  She related that she  served as a school board member for                                                               
the  Ketchikan Gateway  Borough School  District for  seven years                                                               
and she  said she  had a  lengthy perspective  of the  impacts of                                                               
flat  BSA  funding.   Districts,  she  said, have  scraped  along                                                               
partially  due  to special  COVID-19  funds  but cannot  continue                                                               
this.   She  opined the  number one  duty of  the state,  and the                                                               
legislature is  to adequately  fund and  support education.   She                                                               
noted that  from 2012  to 2022,  the BSA  had only  increased 4.2                                                               
percent,  while overall  inflation  during the  same time  period                                                               
increased 24 percent.  She said  that all school districts need a                                                               
significant  increase  to  the  BSA,  and  said  she  appreciated                                                               
special  appropriations,  but  one-time   special  funds  do  not                                                               
compensate  and restrict  the ability  to strategically  plan for                                                               
the future.  She urged the committee to support HB 65.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:39:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SAVANNAH FLETCHER, representing self,  testified in support of HB
65, and  agreed with prior  testimony that "one-time  things" are                                                               
no  longer  effective.    She mentioned  the  burden  her  school                                                               
district  faced  just  to  keep flat  funding,  and  opined  flat                                                               
funding is  negative funding  as the cost  of everything  else in                                                               
the community rises.   There must be  sustainable growing support                                                               
from the state  for students, or families will be  forced to live                                                               
somewhere more affordable.   Supporting the bill would  be a step                                                               
in the direction of fixing the problem, she said.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
5:41:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DENIS GARDELLA, representing self,  Testified in opposition to an                                                               
increase  in the  BSA.   He  acknowledged that  his position  was                                                               
likely unpopular,  but wished to explain  why he is not  in favor                                                               
of  the bill.    He said  Alaska is  ranked  number 45th  amongst                                                               
states for overall  educational achievement.  He  pointed out how                                                               
Alaska compared  in other  rankings, such  as fourth  grade math,                                                               
resulting in  below proficiency placement.   He brought  up other                                                               
states' "education  savings account" where state  money goes into                                                               
a student's education  account to be used in the  school of their                                                               
choice.    He  said  public  education has  become  too  big  and                                                               
expensive and no  longer teaches what most of  America values, he                                                               
opined.   Continuing to  fund public  education is  not producing                                                               
satisfactory  results and  should  be  re-thought; therefore,  he                                                               
reinforced his  opposition to a BSA  increase, but said yes  to a                                                               
conversation to overhaul public education.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:44:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRIDGET WEISS,  Superintendent, Juneau School  District, informed                                                               
the committee  that she had served  as an educator for  39 years.                                                               
She  emphasized  the  importance  of  adequately  funding  public                                                               
education and  questioned why  it would  even be  a consideration                                                               
not  to move  in  that  direction.   She  said budgeting  without                                                               
adequate funding is a challenge,  and she related line items that                                                               
students are not even aware of.   She opined that it was imminent                                                               
for Alaska's children that HB 65 passed.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:47:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRIAN  HOLST,  Director,  Juneau  Economic  Development  Council,                                                               
stated he is  here to advocate for a much  stronger investment in                                                               
public  education and  supported  HB  65.   He  pointed out  many                                                               
hardships  educators in  Alaska  face compared  to other  states;                                                               
however, he stated that Alaska is  ranked number one in one item:                                                               
fiscal stability.  He said  fiscal stability measures the ability                                                               
of  a  state  to  ensure  the  success  of  government  sponsored                                                               
programs  and quality  of life  for the  state's residents.   The                                                               
state has  the ability to choose  to invest more in  its students                                                               
and he encouraged the committee to increase the BSA.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:50:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CRYSTAL HOFFMAN,  representing self,  testified in  opposition to                                                               
HB 65.  She related that included  in her property taxes is a sum                                                               
that goes  to ASD, which equates  to $1,000 per month.   She said                                                               
she  felt  she  was  investing  in the  students  of  Alaska  but                                                               
expected  a better  return; therefore,  she  questioned why  more                                                               
money should go  into an investment that currently  does not have                                                               
a good  return in terms of  the low ranking of  Alaskas  schools.                                                               
She opined  that a  better system should  be developed  where the                                                               
money follows students,  and she asked the  committee to consider                                                               
alternatives other  than additional funds for  something that has                                                               
not seen success yet.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:52:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICKI    HEWITT,     President,    Matanuska-Susitna    Education                                                               
Association,  stated that  she was  honored  to represent  nearly                                                               
1,200  certified  teachers, nurses,  and  other  providers.   She                                                               
offered  her observations  about  the impact  of  the last  seven                                                               
years  of flat  funding.   First, she  said, student  class sizes                                                               
have  grown,  and  teachers  have  to  adjust  by  teaching  many                                                               
different  levels within  the same  classroom, also  resulting in                                                               
students getting left behind.   Flat funding has also limited the                                                               
ability  to  recruit and  retain  the  best  of educators.    She                                                               
relayed hearing  from educators who  consider leaving  Alaska due                                                               
to its non-competitive  wages and incentives.  As  someone on the                                                               
front   lines  educating   students,  she   said,  without   this                                                               
investment,  students  would  continue to  suffer,  and  outcomes                                                               
cannot improve.   She urged the committee to pass  HB 65 and make                                                               
an investment in Alaska's students.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
5:54:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JENNIFER PALMISANO, Anchorage School  District (ASD), offered her                                                               
testimony in  support of HB 65.   She said that  school districts                                                               
across the state  are in need of stable  and predictable funding,                                                               
which is crucial to attract  qualified educators.  She noted that                                                               
the BSA  had not been  increased since  2016, and the  impact has                                                               
created  a loss  of  purchasing power  for the  ASD,  as well  as                                                               
resulting in  negative funding.   She said finding teachers  is a                                                               
daily  struggle for  every school,  and  she noted  there are  at                                                               
least two  unfilled positions a day  in her district.   She urged                                                               
the committee to  consider raising the BSA so  Alaska schools can                                                               
continue to serve students with quality education they deserve.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
5:57:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JAMIE BURGESS, related  that she was the  Superintendent for Nome                                                               
Public Schools for seven years,  and she stressed her passion for                                                               
the achievement  of students  and the wellbeing  of staff.   With                                                               
only $30 increase  to the BSA since 2016, there  are no easy cuts                                                               
to make, and struggles to  find appropriate staff continues.  She                                                               
requested  that  the  state  make  a  significant  investment  in                                                               
education, which is an investment  in children's futures, as they                                                               
are the  future.  She added  that districts have done  their best                                                               
with  flat  funding the  past  seven  years  but the  decline  in                                                               
funding resulted in a decline in education outcomes, she said.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
6:00:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RODNEY DIAL,  representing self,  noted that he  is the  mayor of                                                               
the Ketchikan Gateway  Borough, and that he testified  to ask for                                                               
fairness.   He  explained that  half of  the state  is considered                                                               
organized boroughs,  and the other  half is unorganized.   In the                                                               
organized  areas such  as  Anchorage,  Fairbanks, and  Matanuska-                                                               
Susitna, the state  imposes a broad-based mandatory  tax called a                                                               
required  local contribution.   He  described that  in Ketchikan,                                                               
families  are  contributing  thousands  of dollars  per  year  in                                                               
support  of education,  whereas  the unorganized  areas will  pay                                                               
nothing in support  of their schools.  Because of  this truth, he                                                               
said,  fairness should  dictate  at a  minimum the  legislature's                                                               
consideration  of inflation  proofing the  education spending  it                                                               
authorizes.  It is not fair to  continue to ask half the state to                                                               
pay more local taxes  each year, he said.  For  the state to have                                                               
a  sustainable budget,  he opined  "organized borough  formation"                                                               
must be encouraged.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
6:03:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LESLIE JACOBY, representing  self, testified in support  of HB 65                                                               
on  behalf of  herself, the  Seward  Tsunami Swim  Club, and  her                                                               
daughter  Lydia who  was an  Olympic swimmer.   She  stressed the                                                               
need to  keep the community's  pool open year-round,  adding that                                                               
currently,  the pool  is  closed  for two  months  in the  summer                                                               
making training  difficult for high achieving  athletes.  Closing                                                               
swimming  pools hurts  kids, seniors,  and community  members who                                                               
need it the  most, she said.  She described  the many benefits of                                                               
having  skills in  swimming, and  that the  rates of  drowning in                                                               
Alaska are one  of the highest in the nation.   The pool provides                                                               
a safe space, a healthy outlet,  and she noted that when students                                                               
learn swimming, it improves other  areas of their academic lives,                                                               
as  well as  teaching discipline  and goal  setting.   She opined                                                               
that swimming  is a  life skill and  essential for  public safety                                                               
and mental health.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
6:06:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARY TOUGAS,  representing self, testified during  the hearing on                                                               
HB 65  and stated  that she supported  more money  for education,                                                               
but  she would  also support  how smaller  schools can  be funded                                                               
differently than  so many dollars  per student.   She stated that                                                               
pools were  installed so that  children could learn how  to swim,                                                               
as well as  being a safety and health issue.   She reiterated her                                                               
support  for education  funding but  shared her  belief that  all                                                               
borough schools should be kept open, particularly in Seward.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
6:09:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ERIKA BURR, representing  self, testified in support of  HB 65 as                                                               
a former student  in Fairbanks, Alaska, a current  teacher, and a                                                               
future parent.  Relationships between  students and teachers have                                                               
utmost   importance  and   lack  of   funding  undermines   these                                                               
relationships by creating  large class sizes.  As  a teacher, she                                                               
said  she only  gets to  know the  students who  actively strive,                                                               
which leaves  teachers to  feel less  satisfied with  their jobs.                                                               
Young  people  deserve  to  have   teachers'  energy,  time,  and                                                               
attention, and when  that is lacking, some  students "check out."                                                               
She urged  the committee to  pass HB 65  and show kids  that they                                                               
matter.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
6:12:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BETH ZIRBES, representing self, stated  that her worry is related                                                               
to the  class sizes  proposed for  students.   She said  that her                                                               
daughter's preschool had  a student teacher ratio of  ten to one,                                                               
and  there was  then  a  proposed 27  students,  which she  found                                                               
unacceptable.  As a teacher, she  said she found it hurtful to be                                                               
accused  of  failing,  adding  that a  fourth-grade  test  is  an                                                               
inadequate  measure  of  how students  are  doing;  however,  she                                                               
highlighted  other  areas where  her  students  ranked above  the                                                               
national average.   She  said is  it hard  to motivate  people to                                                               
come into the field and do a  good job when the situation is dire                                                               
and poorly funded.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
6:15:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CINDY GLASSMAKER,  representing self, testified in  opposition to                                                               
HB  65, and  offered her  belief that  raising the  BSA does  not                                                               
guarantee students  will have  or receive  the needed  tools from                                                               
the educational  system to  provide better  outcomes specifically                                                               
through the test scores.  She  stated that Alaska is fifth lowest                                                               
in the  nation for  test scores,  and dead  last in  fourth grade                                                               
reading.   She  opined that  Alaska's  kids should  be funded  by                                                               
allowing families  to create an  educational voucher  system that                                                               
works for them.   Moving a spending bill with  the revenue issues                                                               
the state  is facing  is irresponsible, she  said, and  she asked                                                               
the committee to oppose HB 65.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
6:17:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RANDY   DALY,  representing   self,  provided   his  professional                                                               
background,  and  stated  that  he  is  a  massive  proponent  of                                                               
education  so much  so that  he volunteered  his time  to educate                                                               
children  in many  areas, including  teaching  them the  economic                                                               
system.   He said  he expected outcomes,  value for  the dollars,                                                               
and offered his  belief that it was not the  time to increase the                                                               
amount of  money [to the  BSA] until  the state can  ensure there                                                               
would be  some output.   Looking at  alternative ways  to provide                                                               
education must be investigated, he said.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
6:20:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
EMILY FERRY, representing  self, related that in  her work world,                                                               
she  has heard  a lot  from employers  who cannot  find qualified                                                               
workers, and  said she is  also deeply alarmed by  the statistics                                                               
heard  tonight.    When  the  state  invests,  there  are  better                                                               
outcomes,  she said,  and when  the budget  is cut,  the outcomes                                                               
worsen.  She questioned where citizens  of Alaska want to go as a                                                               
state.   To develop the  work force  of tomorrow, she  opined the                                                               
state must invest in middle  school and elementary students.  She                                                               
brought up  an example of  a classroom  size of 180  students and                                                               
one teacher [in a gym] because  there were not enough teachers or                                                               
substitute teachers  (subs).    She  expressed her joy  at having                                                               
the  choice to  send  her kids  to various  types  of schools  in                                                               
Alaska and  reiterated the  need to invest  to provide  a vibrant                                                               
future to Alaska's students.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
6:24:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REGINA WRIGHT,  representing self, testified in  opposition to HB
65 and expressed  concern that education spending  was the second                                                               
largest category in  Alaska's budget.  She  said studies revealed                                                               
that higher  spending did not  lead to better outcomes  and urged                                                               
the committee to oppose the bill.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
6:25:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STEPHANIE  WILLIAMS, representing  self, provided  her background                                                               
as an educator  for 20 years in both public  and private schools,                                                               
and taught students from low  economic areas to economically well                                                               
off.   She said when she  came to Alaska, she  was impressed with                                                               
the public schools her daughters  attended.  She relayed that she                                                               
went into  the Alaska school  system as a substitute  teacher and                                                               
saw wonderful teachers, but her  concern was the mismanagement of                                                               
funds.   She recalled seeing  30 Apple computers against  a wall,                                                               
which was  money that  was spent  in the  school system,  but the                                                               
computers were not up and running.   She explained that she asked                                                               
why  that  was,  and  she  was  told  that  there  was  only  one                                                               
technician  in  the  school  district   that  could  service  the                                                               
computers.   She also  noted the turnover  rate for  teachers who                                                               
went into administrative roles.   She offered her belief that the                                                               
money was there  but allocated wrong.  She opined  money needs to                                                               
be better  managed and the state  must dig into where  that money                                                               
is going.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
6:29:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LORRIE  HEAGY, representing  self, offered  her background  as an                                                               
educator for 26  years in the Juneau School District  with a PhD.                                                               
She noted  that she was  heartened by Governor  Dunleavy's speech                                                               
at the  beginning of legislature  that focused on children.   She                                                               
stressed all  the hardships that  teachers go through on  a daily                                                               
basis with  very little prep  time.  She  added that she  heard a                                                               
lot about Alaska's investment in  teachers, who are in turn going                                                               
to the  Lower 48  due to  no retirement  system and  class sizes,                                                               
among other  reasons.  She  asked the  committee to think  of the                                                               
future and support the children.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
6:32:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
C.J. KOAN, representing  self, testified in opposition  to HB 65.                                                               
She related her passion for  Alaska students and their successful                                                               
education.    She  added  that  recently,  she  was  provided  an                                                               
explanation  to  BSA  calculations  and expressed  that  she  was                                                               
amazed at  how it actually worked.   She said it  was eye-opening                                                               
to learn  how the math  was done and  she gave brief  examples of                                                               
her  perception of  it.    She reiterated  that  as  much as  she                                                               
supported education,  a new method  should be created  around the                                                               
use of monies  to give kids what they actually  need.  She opined                                                               
that  there is  mismanagement  going  on and  that  it should  be                                                               
tweaked.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
6:36:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PETER   HOEPFNER,   Vice-President,  Cordova   School   District,                                                               
testified in  support of HB  65, and offered his  background with                                                               
the Alaska Association of School  Boards (AASB).  He acknowledged                                                               
the continued decline of education  funding along with the rising                                                               
cost of  health insurance.   He added that the  continued decline                                                               
of funding means  that the state is always looking  at cutting in                                                               
more  districts.    He  noted the  difficulties  in  hiring  even                                                               
substitute teachers,  as other jobs  pay more.   He said  [from a                                                               
2019 study] Alaskas   spending on K-12 education  falls below the                                                               
U.S. average,  and he  opined the  state needs  to invest  in the                                                               
future of education.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
6:39:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MIKE COONS, Concerned Citizens of  Alaska, stated that he was the                                                               
president of the Concerned Conservatives  of Alaska and testified                                                               
in opposition to HB  65 and the $1,000 increase.   He said HB 65,                                                               
along with SB 52, "could care  less there are any means to ensure                                                               
those standards are  met," and all the while  Alaska is dead-last                                                               
in  all  states  in  education.    He  offered  his  belief  that                                                               
teachers' salaries  do not reflect  that they are underpaid.   He                                                               
asked the committee to vote no on  the bill and "kill it here and                                                               
now."                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
6:42:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEBBIE CARY, noted  she was the president of  the Kenai Peninsula                                                               
Borough School District, and she  had 4 children who attended and                                                               
graduated  from Alaska  schools.    She said  30  years ago  many                                                               
things were not thought of,  such as cyberbullying and social and                                                               
emotional development,  but today  it is  imperative not  to only                                                               
think about  it but  to allocate resources  to support  the well-                                                               
being of students.   She noted her district's  current deficit in                                                               
their budget  and various cuts projected.   She said she  was not                                                               
asking the  committee to fund  a failing  system but to  think of                                                               
the future of education and support the children through HB 65.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
6:45:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HEATHER BARDARSON, representing self,  testified in support of HB
65 and  to raise the  BSA to $1,250.   She provided  her family's                                                               
background of  being educated in  Alaska and said  Seward schools                                                               
cannot afford to  lose any more educational funding.   She belief                                                               
that  the  community  needed  competitive  teacher  salaries  and                                                               
maintained  infrastructure.   She  said  she  hoped she  and  her                                                               
family's   voices  would   bring  further   funding  for   future                                                               
educational opportunities in Alaska.   She implored the committee                                                               
to pass HB 65.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
6:47:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TYLER  MALLORY, representing  self, related  his background  as a                                                               
police officer  in Seward and  a high school football  team coach                                                               
and  affirmed  his support  for  funding  the  BSA.   He  offered                                                               
examples  of kids'  success stories  who excelled  in school  and                                                               
went on to be successful  students.  He said when extracurricular                                                               
activities are taken away, such  as football that attract certain                                                               
kinds of  kids, those kids lose  out on the opportunity  to teach                                                               
them  how to  be  functioning adults.   He  opined  that the  BSA                                                               
should  be  raised  and  eliminating  athletics  on  the  [Kenai]                                                               
peninsula is something that cannot happen.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
6:49:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RON  JOHNSON,  representing  self,  stated that  he  had  a  keen                                                               
interest in  education, but  his biggest concern  is the  lack of                                                               
results  for the  money spent,  as statistics  show Alaska  ranks                                                               
amongst the  lowest in  the states for  performance results.   He                                                               
said  he  did not  believe  that  throwing  more money  into  the                                                               
education system was going to  improve it, and he also questioned                                                               
where  the money  would come  from.   As a  taxpayer, he  said he                                                               
would be  willing to  increase the  BSA if  the results  could be                                                               
shown.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
6:52:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JANET   JOHNSON,  representing   self,   reflected  on   previous                                                               
testimony  opposing   the  bill,   and  opined  that   there  was                                                               
definitely something  wrong with  Alaska's education  system when                                                               
children are not being taught what  they need to know to function                                                               
in an  adult world.   It does not take  more money, she  said, to                                                               
teach math, writing, and English.   She reiterated her opposition                                                               
to  HB  65  and  said  she hoped  the  committee  would  strongly                                                               
consider not passing the bill.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
6:54:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MICHELLE HODEL, representing self,  testified in opposition to HB
65.   She  said she  agreed with  prior testifiers  who said  the                                                               
state  needed to  get back  to the  basics.   She added  that the                                                               
"woke ideology,  that  she saw posted all over  the school, which                                                               
she called propaganda, needed to stop.   She said all this should                                                               
not be  tied to money,  and she stated  it would limit  those who                                                               
cannot afford to send children  to a private school or homeschool                                                               
them.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
6:55:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARIANNE NELSEN, representing  self, said she is  testifying as a                                                               
concerned citizen,  mother of four,  and a small  business owner.                                                               
Education  spending is  the second  largest category  of Alaska's                                                               
budget,  yet the  outcomes do  not support  that investment,  she                                                               
said.   She  reiterated  prior testifiers   information given  on                                                               
Alaska's statistics  in education nationwide that  she stated was                                                               
"quite  concerning."   Higher  spending did  not  lead to  better                                                               
educational  results, and  if the  state could  get creative  and                                                               
figure  out how  to educate  students differently,  she said  she                                                               
would be in  support of the bill.  She  reinstated her opposition                                                               
to  HB 65  and  asked  the committee  to  consider  what she  had                                                               
presented.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
6:59:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SAHAR  FOSTER, representing  self, provided  her background  as a                                                               
student in  public schools in  Juneau.   She said that  after her                                                               
freshmen year  it became apparent  to her that the  public school                                                               
system  did not  meet her  needs and  she enrolled  herself in  a                                                               
boarding  school.    She  stated  that  she  firmly  believed  in                                                               
education,  but after  her son  had been  enrolled in  the public                                                               
education  system, she  discovered that  the school  system could                                                               
not  meet  her   child's  needs,  and  he  was   being  asked  to                                                               
underperform  on a  daily basis.   She  said the  [school] system                                                               
does not  meet everyone's needs,  nor does it need  more funding;                                                               
there is a  systemic problem that can't be portrayed  on what the                                                               
issues  are.   Raising the  BSA while  parents are  pulling their                                                               
children  from  the system  creates  a  financial gap  the  state                                                               
thought it could meet by raising the base level, she said.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
7:02:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LORI   RUCKSDASHEL,   Principal,   Anchorage   School   District,                                                               
testified  in  support  of  HB  65.   She  relayed  that  in  her                                                               
district, she  saw the impact of  flat funding in all  aspects of                                                               
staffing,  including high  turnovers for  not only  teachers, but                                                               
paraprofessionals.  She acknowledged the  want for highly trained                                                               
staff  in  the classrooms,  especially  in  K-3 to  build  strong                                                               
foundations, but  it is  all directly due  to funding,  she said.                                                               
She opined  that reliable funding  is an absolute  necessity, and                                                               
urged  the   committee  to  consider  increasing   and  inflation                                                               
proofing the BSA  to ensure Alaska schools can  continue to serve                                                               
students.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
7:04:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KELLY KING,  representing self,  testified in  support of  HB 65,                                                               
and  noted that  public  schools are  often  some children's  one                                                               
constant through uncertainty.   At risk students,  she said, need                                                               
positive and  consistent relationships with school  staff as well                                                               
as captivating school  programming.  She offered  her belief that                                                               
if  the state  cannot attract  and retain  quality educators  and                                                               
mentors, a constant for vulnerable young would be removed.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
7:06:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOSHUA  GIRARD,  representing   self,  offered  his  professional                                                               
background,  adding  that he  was  a  paraprofessional at  Seward                                                               
Middle School.   He said he witnessed cutbacks  that included the                                                               
loss  of  music, classes  being  forced  to merge,  and  teachers                                                               
taking on more  work with the same pay.   Teachers, he said, left                                                               
for better employment  and benefits elsewhere.   The funding does                                                               
not allow  for competitive pay  and in turn affects  the staffing                                                               
and students.   He questioned  how the needs  are to be  met with                                                               
limited faculty and expressed support for raising the BSA.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
7:09:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PATTY WISEL,  representing self,  explained that her  concern was                                                               
what  may  happen  to  her   grandchildren  in  regard  to  their                                                               
education  and  who  will  pay  down the  road.    She  mentioned                                                               
Alaska's .7 percent  drop in enrollment, adding  that since 2002,                                                               
Alaska had grown its education  revenues and spending by nearly a                                                               
third  while enrollment  has declined.   She  reiterated Alaska's                                                               
place  nationwide in  education  and said  that  the numbers  are                                                               
critical and should  be repeated.  She opined it  is time to fund                                                               
students, not systems, and she urged  the committee to vote no on                                                               
HB 65.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
7:11:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JENNIFER  SAMPSON, representing  self, offered  a brief  personal                                                               
background and related that she  had come across a statistic that                                                               
said  Alaska spends  about $18,000  per student.   She  explained                                                               
that her son  is a college student and his  tuition is about half                                                               
of that,  which she  found "mind-blowing."   Public  schools, she                                                               
said, are  much less  expensive and she  questioned why  they are                                                               
only funded at  90 percent.  She noted charter  schools cost less                                                               
to operate, yet  they are thriving.  She said  she is not against                                                               
funding schools, but  asked that the students be  funded, not the                                                               
system.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
7:14:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BARBARA TYNDALL,  representing self,  provided background  on her                                                               
children's education in Alaska,  adding that sometimes, she would                                                               
take her  children out  of the  public school and  put them  in a                                                               
private  school.   She  stated  that  one  can  get a  very  good                                                               
education  with  very  little  money,  as  seen  in  the  private                                                               
schools,  but  she  acknowledged  not everyone  can  afford  that                                                               
option.  She confirmed her  opposition to raising the BSA because                                                               
of the outcomes; the  money is not doing what it  is meant to do,                                                               
she  said.    She  believed  that  educators  are  producing  the                                                               
product,  and everyone  else receives  whatever they  are giving,                                                               
and  she stressed  the  shortages  of teachers  here  as well  as                                                               
throughout the U.S.  The  available money should be stewarded and                                                               
follow the student,  she opined.  She urged the  committee not to                                                               
pass HB  65, and  to examine  ways to steward  the funds,  as she                                                               
opined a lot can be done with very little.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
7:19:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 7:19 p.m. to 7:30 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
7:30:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SALLY DUNCAN,  representing self,  testified in opposition  to HB
65, and stated  that kids are not benefiting from  increases.  In                                                               
the 1970s, she  said, kids were at or near  being top performers,                                                               
and only an  average was paid out  of the budget.   Now, kids are                                                               
last in  most subjects and  top dollar is  being paid out  of the                                                               
budget, which is why, she said, she opposed HB 65.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
7:32:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WILL MULDOON, related  that he was a member of  the Juneau School                                                               
District Board of  Education as the finance chair,  where he said                                                               
they  passed their  budget recently,  and he  noted a  $3 million                                                               
deficit as well as other  financial hardships the district faced.                                                               
He  brought up  examples  of other  states  who proposed  similar                                                               
legislation to  HB 65,  and opined  the Alaska  State Legislature                                                               
could emulate them.   He reiterated his support for  the bill and                                                               
thanked the committee for their work.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
7:35:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROBERTA ZIPAY,  representing self, said that  she appreciated the                                                               
passion  for  helping students,  and  she  related stories  about                                                               
public versus  private schooling.   She stated that she  can only                                                               
speak directly and  personally about ASD and what she  saw as not                                                               
adequate,  she opined.   She  gave  examples of  her children  in                                                               
public schools being taught subject  matter she did not want them                                                               
to learn.   She added that  there were posters and  literature in                                                               
the offices  of the  school she  did not  find appropriate.   She                                                               
said  she appreciated  the ability  to  place her  children in  a                                                               
private  school  system  where she  praised  the  education  they                                                               
received there, and  she noted she also taught there.   She asked                                                               
the committee to  find a better way to  support students, because                                                               
"this is not it."                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
7:41:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MICA VAN BUSKIRK,  representing self, testified in  support of HB
65.  She  said the lack of predictable and  adequate increases of                                                               
the  BSA  caused the  inability  to  retain and  recruit  quality                                                               
teachers.   She  added that  impacts in  Seward schools  included                                                               
consolidated classes, loss of core  classes, and the reduction of                                                               
high-level classes.   Many students,  she said, are  being forced                                                               
to take distance  education classes and noted  the possibility of                                                               
the school's pool closure.   She related that families have moved                                                               
out of  the community  to find  schools with  more opportunities.                                                               
There are  no private schools in  her community, so there  are no                                                               
other options except for homeschooling,  which is an option a lot                                                               
of  parents  cannot  take.    She requested  not  just  one  time                                                               
funding, but sustainable and predictable increases to the BSA.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
7:44:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CINDY ECKLUND, Assembly Member,  Kenai Peninsula Borough, related                                                               
that  she  was a  District  6  Kenai Peninsula  Borough  assembly                                                               
member.  She said that  the borough assembly adopted a resolution                                                               
requesting that the  state make a meaningful increase  to the BSA                                                               
for public  schools.  The district,  she said, is facing  a $13.1                                                               
million budget deficit for fiscal  year 2024 (FY 24) requiring an                                                               
increase to  class size and  elimination of programs.   She added                                                               
that the BSA  is at the lowest  it has been in  20 years adjusted                                                               
for  inflation.   She  reiterated that  the  assembly requests  a                                                               
meaningful increase to the BSA  for Alaska's students to bridge a                                                               
fiscal gap  created by  a lack of  inflationary increases  to the                                                               
BSA over the last several years.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
7:47:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
EVELYN  DALTON, representing  self,  provided  her background  in                                                               
education,  and stated  she is  testifying because  the education                                                               
system is  in crisis.   She said  she saw  the disenfranchisement                                                               
all  around her  when she  went  to work,  both in  the faces  of                                                               
students and  staff, and in addition,  enrollment and performance                                                               
was  down.   She stated  she would  love to  say that  increasing                                                               
money would  fix things, but there  are no up to  date systems or                                                               
regulations,  and  the issue  of  what  is  being done  with  the                                                               
districts needs to  be addressed.  Families are  pulling kids out                                                               
of the  schools because  they are not  getting the  outcomes, and                                                               
until the "model"  is fixed, there is no sense  in throwing money                                                               
at something that is already broken, she opined.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
7:50:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALEXANDER RENO, representing self,  testified in opposition to HB
65,  and opined  that it  is not  an issue  of if  more money  is                                                               
needed, it  is a matter  of optimizing  the money already  in the                                                               
system.  He provided his  background of being educated in Alaska,                                                               
and that  he currently  worked with  the state.   He  relayed the                                                               
importance of  parents being involved in  their child's education                                                               
and in the  system, and he expressed his opinion  that it did not                                                               
make sense fiscally  to throw more money at a  problem when there                                                               
is a  debt with the state.   Reallocation of funding  can benefit                                                               
the issue, he said.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
7:52:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BERNADETTE  WILSON,  state  director, Americans  for  Prosperity,                                                               
said that among those represented  are single mothers and fathers                                                               
who cannot  afford to  travel to  Juneau to  testify, as  well as                                                               
kids who have  learning disabilities that do not  have the nerve,                                                               
to be  here and  testify.   She stated that  the amount  of money                                                               
being  put into  education does  not match  the dismal  placement                                                               
results  Alaska's students  produce.   She urged  the body,  when                                                               
they look at  funding, to fully vet the bill.   She expressed her                                                               
shock to have  found out that legislators who  sponsored the bill                                                               
did not know  the teacher to administrator ratio is  four to five                                                               
in nearly  every single school district.   She said she  was told                                                               
that number  was not  accurate and  explained that  the statistic                                                               
can be  found to back  it up.  She  opined it is  low-income kids                                                               
the state is discriminating against  by continuing to throw money                                                               
into a  program that  does not  work.   She expressed  her belief                                                               
that students  need to  be funded, not  systems that  have failed                                                               
for more than a decade.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
7:56:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ERIC GODDEN,  representing self, said  he opposed the  passage of                                                               
HB 65  and began  by asking  how much money  would be  enough, to                                                               
which, he said,  he did not think  there was an answer.   He said                                                               
it may  not be a money  issue since there are  successful schools                                                               
as  well as  schools that  are failing.   He  opined the  lack of                                                               
success   was  being   caused  by   a   culture  curriculum   and                                                               
implementation.   He  pointed out  the news  of how  teachers are                                                               
being  cut   but  said   he  had  not   heard  of   a  six-figure                                                               
administrator being  cut.   He said  he thought  the wastefulness                                                               
[of  funds] is  evident,  and  that he  would  not  attach it  to                                                               
inflation proofing.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
7:58:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 7:58 p.m. to 7:59 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
7:59:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RUFFRIDGE called on several testifiers who dropped off.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:01:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DARREN  SNYDER, representing  self, thanked  the House  Education                                                               
Standing Committee  for their service,  and testified  in support                                                               
of  HB 65  and  the  success of  all  Alaska's  communities.   He                                                               
explained that when  he learned of the state's  inability to keep                                                               
up  with commitment  to  educate  K-12 youth  over  the past  ten                                                               
years, he was "floored."  He  questioned how to achieve the goals                                                               
of every citizen  of Alaska to be self-reliant  and successful by                                                               
not providing even  a 2013 funding level.  He  opined that unless                                                               
the BSA  is raised,  youth and  communities throughout  the state                                                               
are not adequately  being served.  He said the  right thing to do                                                               
is obvious,  and he  urged the  passage of HB  65.   He addressed                                                               
previous  criticism   of  "top  heavy"  administration   being  a                                                               
problem, and he said those  who have problems with administrators                                                               
should  get  in touch  with  the  school  district to  deal  with                                                               
things.    The public  school  is  just  another element  in  our                                                               
democracy  and  people  must  work with  each  other  to  achieve                                                               
accountability, he said.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:04:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MICHELE ELFERS,  representing self,  advocated to raise  the BSA.                                                               
She  said  she  thought  it was  directly  related  to  workforce                                                               
development,  and  she  confirmed   the  many  vacancies  in  her                                                               
organization.   She  opined that  professionals  could be  raised                                                               
here  in  the state  and  retained,  since  it starts  with  good                                                               
quality education.   A good  quality education system  is needed,                                                               
she said,  and people  are leaving due  to the lack  of it.   She                                                               
gave examples  of her  own children in  the Alaska  school system                                                               
and   discussed   the  need   to   educate   her  child   through                                                               
correspondence courses  alternatively.   She stressed  her desire                                                               
for students to be able to stay in the state.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:08:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VALERIE  BROOKS, representing  self, testified  in support  of HB
65.  She  related she was a recently retired  reading teacher and                                                               
had over  30 years of  public education in  Alask.  She  said she                                                               
saw firsthand how  inflation and a stagnant  BSA impacts students                                                               
and staff.   She praised  public education, students,  and staff,                                                               
and opined  that the system  is not failing,  but when it  is not                                                               
adequately  funded, it  cannot address  all  the requirements  to                                                               
meet the  needs of public-school  kids.  Lack of  funding results                                                               
in a  lack of  progress, she said,  adding that HB  65 and  a BSA                                                               
increase would help  make Alaska public schools  successful.  She                                                               
urged the passage of the bill.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:11:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RAY  IMEL,  representing self,  relayed  that  he is  a  recently                                                               
retired teacher from a middle school  in Juneau.  He reflected on                                                               
the story  of how cyclist  Lance Armstrong had cheated  but could                                                               
not  lie to  his  child when  asked.   He  said the  "cheapskate"                                                               
funding for education  has been cheating the  children of Alaska.                                                               
Despite  the fiscal  reduction,  test scores  never increase,  he                                                               
said.   He stated  that he  had worked with  a team  of excellent                                                               
educators who doubled down to make  things work, and at least two                                                               
of  his  colleagues  "worked  themselves   to  death,"  which  he                                                               
described as an awful cautionary tale.   He opined that HB 65 was                                                               
finally a step in the right direction.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:14:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BILL BURR, Superintendent, Wrangell  Public Schools, related that                                                               
he was  Superintendent of Wrangell Public  Schools, and testified                                                               
during the hearing on HB  65 specifically, he said, regarding the                                                               
effect   a   stagnant  BSA   would   have   on  the   educational                                                               
opportunities  for the  students in  Wrangell, and  the state  at                                                               
large.   As inflation and  costs increase, the funding  to public                                                               
education has not.   He explained the hardships  his district had                                                               
faced as  a result of  the [COVID-19] pandemic and  their budget,                                                               
causing a  significant strain on  remaining staff.   Students, he                                                               
said,  are a  resource  that  must never  be  depleted and  while                                                               
adding  funds  to public  education  costs  is  not easy,  it  is                                                               
essential to the wellbeing of the  state.  He urged the committee                                                               
to make students a priority  by increasing and inflation proofing                                                               
the BSA to a sustainable amount.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:16:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JENNA  FABIAN, Principal,  Nikiski North  Star Elementary,  noted                                                               
her affiliation with the Alaska  Association of Elementary School                                                               
Principals.   She stated that  stable and predictable  funding is                                                               
critical  in  ensuring that  districts  retain  and attract  high                                                               
quality  educators.   In addition,  the impact  of inflation  had                                                               
created  a  significant loss  in  purchasing  power for  all  the                                                               
school  districts, she  said.   The  bandwidth for  instructional                                                               
effectiveness  of  certified   teaching  professionals  has  been                                                               
greatly reduced,  and less staff  are unable to  facilitate after                                                               
school programming.   Another of  her concerns, she said,  is the                                                               
worry  about  burnout  in  educators   as  well  as  finding  and                                                               
retaining qualified  candidates for vacancies.   Reliable funding                                                               
is key,  and she  asked the committee  to increase  and inflation                                                               
proof the  BSA to ensure  Alaska schools can serve  students with                                                               
the quality education they deserve.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:19:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KEVIN  BANKS,  representing self,  offered  his  testimony as  an                                                               
advocate for  the passage  of HB  65.   Schools are  not failing,                                                               
they are starving, he opined,  characterizing the lack of funding                                                               
imposed on  the public  schools in  the state  as  anemic.    The                                                               
opportunity to go to alternative  schools are great, he said, but                                                               
he questioned the  students who dont  have that option.   He said                                                               
that  public schools  are  public for  a reason,  and  a part  of                                                               
making sure  that every  student has a  chance for  an education.                                                               
He  said  it   is  time  to  start   feeding    the  schools  the                                                               
nourishment they require.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:22:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GENE STONE, Superintendent, Lower  Yukon School District, related                                                               
that  he wished  to advocate  for school  funding.   He described                                                               
some of the increases his  district faced, supplementing costs of                                                               
needed  programs, and  many of  the capital  improvement projects                                                               
not making  the cut.   He opined  the BSA amount  of $1,250  is a                                                               
reasonable  starting point  in the  discussion of  increasing the                                                               
BSA.   Seven years of flat  funding has put districts  on obvious                                                               
deficits,  he  said,  and  he  urged the  passage  of  HB  65  to                                                               
adequately fund education.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:25:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHRIS  REITAN,   Superintendent,  Craig  City   School  District,                                                               
testified in support  of HB 65 and a $1,250  increase in the BSA.                                                               
He related  that he had  been a  superintendent in Alaska  for 12                                                               
years and  an educator  in the  state for  29 years.   For  26 of                                                               
those years, he worked with  districts that were strong advocates                                                               
for school choice options.  He  said he was a strong proponent of                                                               
district operated  school choice  options developed at  the local                                                               
level.  He  highlighted the challenges the  public school systems                                                               
face on a daily  basis and how it impacts every  school.  He gave                                                               
examples of the hardships the  Craig City School District endured                                                               
since the increase  in the last BSA  in 2017.  He  brought up the                                                               
lack  of  consistent  investment into  children's  education  and                                                               
urged the passage of HB 65.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:29:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NATHAN    ERFURTH,   President,    Kenai   Peninsula    Education                                                               
Association,  provided his  background  as the  president of  the                                                               
Kenai Peninsula  Education Association  and testified  in support                                                               
of HB  65.  He  relayed that for  the last several  years schools                                                               
had  received  very  real  cuts  through  increasing  costs,  and                                                               
inflation alongside  a flat BSA.   Districts attempted  to absorb                                                               
the cuts  by not  re-hiring when teachers  retire or  resign, and                                                               
students  are losing  access to  programs and  professionals that                                                               
could open  doors for  life opportunities  and careers,  he said.                                                               
He offered his  opinion that if the state wants  to keep the best                                                               
and brightest  around for  the work force,  they must  be treated                                                               
well  and given  what they  need while  they are  young.   Public                                                               
education can meet everyone's needs  with the right resources and                                                               
professionals, he said.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:31:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KEVIN  SHOVE,   School  Board   Member,  Haines   Borough  School                                                               
District,  provided his  educational and  professional background                                                               
and  stated  that  the Haines  school  board  and  administration                                                               
strongly  support HB  65.   He  said that  the current  situation                                                               
regarding  education  is  evident,   and  he  reflected  on  some                                                               
testifiers' concerns  about how the funding  was being allocated.                                                               
He  said that  would be  an accountability  issue, not  a funding                                                               
issue;  however, not  increasing  funding since  2017  is a  huge                                                               
concern  for him.    The  passage of  HB  65  would show  serious                                                               
commitment  to  Alaska's education  and  children,  he said,  and                                                               
thanked the committee for their time and consideration.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:35:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOSHUA GILL, Alaska Association  of Elementary School Principals,                                                               
provided his professional background and  stated that he had many                                                               
affiliations, as  well as being a  parent of 5 children    with 4                                                               
enrolled in  public school.   He  said to  meet the  bare minimum                                                               
needs, the BSA needed a substantial  increase.  He noted the many                                                               
costs schools  have faced to  keep running, and in  addition, the                                                               
challenge  of recruiting  and  retaining  teachers especially  in                                                               
recent years.   Flat funding, he said, had impacted  all of this.                                                               
He  stressed that  raising the  BSA would  help provide  students                                                               
with basic needs and well qualified educators.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:38:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RITA TROMETTER, representing self,  testified in opposition to HB
65, and  she questioned  where the  increased allotment  of money                                                               
was going  to be  used.   Without real  answers, she  advised the                                                               
house to  consider a tight  budget for  the upcoming year,  as it                                                               
appeared annual  allotment increases  have little to  no tracking                                                               
as to  where it  has been  spent in the  past to  improve student                                                               
scores,  or where  it  will  be used  in  the  future to  improve                                                               
testing  scores.    She  offered   her  belief  that  monies  for                                                               
education  should not  increase,  instead, education  departments                                                               
should be advised to cut  nonacademic curriculum from the line up                                                               
and go  back to basic  education [reading, writing, and  math] so                                                               
students can pass  grade level testing.  She  urged the committee                                                               
to vote against HB 65 at this time.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:41:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LILLY BORON, Principal, Haines  Borough School District, provided                                                               
her background and testified in support  of HB 65.  She expressed                                                               
her pride at  the quality education Haines strives  to deliver to                                                               
Alaska students.   She added  that students  tend to stay  in the                                                               
state and  attend Alaska  universities and  she gave  examples of                                                               
her  own children's  success.    However, she  said  the cost  of                                                               
groceries and  other commodities  have increased  by at  least 25                                                               
percent,  and  in  recent years,  there  have  been  difficulties                                                               
recruiting  and   retaining  qualified   educators.     Years  of                                                               
continued  flat funding,  she said,  had reduced  the ability  to                                                               
sustain  programs and  provide necessary  student services.   She                                                               
urged the  committee to invest  in Alaska's students and  pass HB
65.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:44:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LEM  WHEELES,  representing  self,   provided  a  brief  personal                                                               
background  and  stated  that  he  is a  product  of  the  Alaska                                                               
education  system and  highly invested  in  it.   He opined  that                                                               
schools are  in dire need of  a significant increase in  the BSA,                                                               
and  the amount  proposed  would go  a long  way  to correct  the                                                               
damage  done.    He  said  he witnessed  firsthand  the  loss  of                                                               
teachers due to  flat funding, and he expressed that  he is tired                                                               
of  seeing great  teachers leave  his school  because of  lack of                                                               
adequate investment.   He asked the committee to  work with their                                                               
colleagues and the Senate to get HB 65 passed.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:47:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PATTY BROWN, representing self, gave  her background and said she                                                               
was a  retired teacher and taught  for 22 years in  rural Alaska,                                                               
as  well  as  being  on  the board  of  Alaska  Science  Teachers                                                               
Association for ten years.  She  said there had been flat funding                                                               
since  2017  with  miniscule  increases   before  that,  and  she                                                               
emphasized the huge  needs in rural, urban,  and bush communities                                                               
in Alaska.   Holding  schools accountable is  the right  thing to                                                               
do, not  schools having to  accomplish more with less,  she said.                                                               
She stressed her support to raise  the BSA and encouraged the use                                                               
of  some  of  the  funds  to enrich  science  education  for  all                                                               
students.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:50:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TIM  ELDER, Employee,  Kenai Peninsula  Borough School  District,                                                               
said he  was the  Kenai Peninsula  Borough theatre  manager since                                                               
2005  and  began  his  career  with the  district  as  a  theater                                                               
technician.    He  added  that  he raised  two  children  in  the                                                               
district who have graduated.  He  noted the district had not seen                                                               
an  increase in  the  BSA  since 2016,  and  he  pointed out  the                                                               
proposed  elimination  of theater  technicians  as  a measure  to                                                               
close  the  fiscal  gap.   By  removing  this  technical  support                                                               
position,  he  opined  the  community  would  lose  access  to  a                                                               
resource  that promotes  creativity,  community involvement,  and                                                               
the arts.   He asked the committee to invest  in children and the                                                               
community by increasing the BSA.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:53:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SANDI  RYAN, President,  Fairbanks Education  Association, stated                                                               
that she  was a  29-year teacher of  high school  mathematics and                                                               
computer  science   in  Fairbanks,  Alaska,  and   currently  the                                                               
president  of  the Fairbanks  Education  Association.   She  gave                                                               
personal  examples of  her own  education, and  the opportunities                                                               
she had  for field  trips.   She said  budget cuts  fall directly                                                               
onto the  students and noted that  extracurricular activities are                                                               
"drying up."   She said  she supported a significant  increase to                                                               
the BSA for Alaska's students.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:55:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KIM  HAYS, representing  self,  testified in  support  HB 65  and                                                               
urged  its  passage.    She  said  a  well-educated  populous  is                                                               
integral to the  survival of democracy, and education  is the one                                                               
thing that should be invested more  in year after year, not less.                                                               
She gave examples of her  children's education, and that parents,                                                               
teachers, and education advocates  have been "sounding the alarm"                                                               
for  years.   It has  come  to the  point where  there have  been                                                               
school closures and  more will be closed if  things continue this                                                               
way,  she said.    She stated  the  passage of  HB  65 would  put                                                               
education first and show that the children are valued.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:58:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PEGGY COWAN, representing self, said  the minimal increase in the                                                               
BSA had  eroded the  ability of districts  to hire  the necessary                                                               
staff,  and the  past decade  consisted of  slashing budgets  and                                                               
limiting  extracurricular activities,  among other  consequences.                                                               
She  urged  the committee  to  listen  to  the specifics  of  the                                                               
current school  board members  who had  testified, and  urged the                                                               
committee to  adopt a  state budget  that would  increase funding                                                               
for  schools to  a  sustainable level.    Punishing districts  by                                                               
short funding schools will not  increase student achievement, and                                                               
families need to want to stay  in Alaska to strengthen the future                                                               
of the state.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:00:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ESTON JENNINGS,  Director, Teaching  and Learning  Alaska Gateway                                                               
School District,  testified in  support of  HB 65.   She  said an                                                               
increase  of  predictable funding  is  needed  to retain  quality                                                               
educators.   She noted the lack  of the BSA increase  since 2016,                                                               
and the  impact of inflation  on purchasing power  for districts.                                                               
There is  a misconception that  district offices are  filled with                                                               
overpaid  administrators which,  she  said, is  simply not  true.                                                               
Most educators wear  multiple hats to do the necessary  work of a                                                               
small district.   Reliable funding is key  to improving students'                                                               
outcomes by  stabilizing schools and reducing  educator turnover.                                                               
She affirmed  her support for  increasing and  inflation proofing                                                               
the BSA.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:02:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MIKE   GRUNST,   representing   self,  shared   the   educational                                                               
background of  he and his children,  and said it is  time for the                                                               
state  to  step up  and  take  responsibility for  the  direction                                                               
citizens want  the state to  go.  He  pointed out that  Alaska is                                                               
the lowest  taxed state  in the  nation and  pay nothing  for the                                                               
services  received  from  the  state.    He  reiterated  some  of                                                               
Alaska's unfavorable ratings in many  other areas and opined that                                                               
the state needs  a comprehensive financial plan  to address these                                                               
issues.   He suggested the  coordination of school  districts and                                                               
university systems so they can  mutually support one another.  He                                                               
said that  Alaska has 750,000  residents with $80 billion  in the                                                               
bank, and opined that almost all  the problems can be solved with                                                               
the fortitude to do so.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:06:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUSAN  NEDZA, Chief  School Administrator,  Bering Strait  School                                                               
District,  said  that her  district  is  only accessible  by  air                                                               
travel,  and   opportunities  and  challenges   need  predictable                                                               
funding at  a level that meets  the needs of students  to operate                                                               
to full  capacity.  Costs  have increased in recent  years, which                                                               
in  rural Alaska,  is compounded  by shipping  and travel  costs.                                                               
When these  costs cannot be met,  students must go without.   She                                                               
said the district  strives to do the best in  providing a quality                                                               
education in a  variety of areas without  any additional funding,                                                               
but when  full supports can  be provided through  stable funding,                                                               
improvement in test  scores would be just one of  the measures of                                                               
success.  She  said some communities have  outgrown their schools                                                               
and are trying  to make room for enough  students; however, labor                                                               
and building costs have doubled.   She stressed the importance of                                                               
a BSA increase so the crisis would not continue.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:10:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TREVOR STORRS,  President and CEO, Alaska  Children's Trust, said                                                               
children  make  up 25  percent  of  Alaska's population  but  100                                                               
percent  of  the future.    Due  to  Alaska's poor  standings  in                                                               
education nationwide, everything must  be done to ensure Alaska's                                                               
children  grow  up  with  the  knowledge,  skills,  supports  and                                                               
resources to  be strong contributors  to collective success.   He                                                               
encouraged the legislature to pass  meaningful changes to the BSA                                                               
this year, as well as a BSA that keeps pace with inflation.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:12:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LAURA ANDERSON, representing  self, stated that she  is a fourth-                                                               
grade teacher in Anchor Point and  testified in support of HB 65.                                                               
Schools  need  stable  and   predictable  funding,  since  public                                                               
education has been  flat funded since 2017, she said.   She noted                                                               
that inflation has risen 18 percent  and the BSA has increased by                                                               
less  than 5  percent.   She related  that her  district saw  the                                                               
impacts  of flat  funding  as well  as how  it  could affect  the                                                               
future.   Students,  teachers, and  parents  deserve better,  she                                                               
said, and  urged the passing of  HB 65 so students  can be served                                                               
with a quality education.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:14:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
FRANK HAUSER,  Superintendent, Sitka  School District,  said that                                                               
the Sitka  school district is  currently facing a  budget deficit                                                               
of $2.7  million dollars  which represents  almost 12  percent of                                                               
their total general  fund budget.  He said flat  funding does not                                                               
provide for many  things, and multiple years  without an increase                                                               
to  the  BSA  have  eroded  the  ability  to  keep  educators  in                                                               
classrooms.    He  explained  that   in  Sitka,  they  have  made                                                               
significant cuts to teachers,  administrators, support staff, and                                                               
programs.    He  opined  that  reliable  funding  would  increase                                                               
student achievement,  and that HB  65 would provide  stability in                                                               
the schools  in many  ways.  Money  invested in  Alaska's schools                                                               
and students is  money well invested in the future  of Alaska, he                                                               
said.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:17:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TED EISCHEID, representing  self, testified in support  of HB 65.                                                               
He praised  previous testimony and  thanked the  public educators                                                               
who  were involved  in his  life.   He recognized  the crisis  in                                                               
education  funding  over time  and  said  he hoped  the  proposed                                                               
legislation would offer  a solution.  He  reflected on testifiers                                                               
who  said to  "let  the money  flow with  the  students," and  he                                                               
opined that the job of  legislators is to maintain education with                                                               
adequate funding.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:22:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUMMER KOESTER,  representing self,  offered her background  as a                                                               
teacher, a parent,  and gave personal examples of  when she began                                                               
her career as a teacher.  She  said she advocated for her son who                                                               
will soon enter  middle school and will be in  classes of 40 plus                                                               
students.  She said she  also advocated for her autistic daughter                                                               
who she  takes to a school  that does not have  too many students                                                               
per class.   Lastly,  she said she  advocated for  her colleagues                                                               
and asked the committee to "fund what matters."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:25:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ERICA KLUDT-PAINTER, Superintendent,  Petersburg School District,                                                               
testified in support  of HB 65 and provided  a brief professional                                                               
background.   She  said  her commitment  to  public education  is                                                               
clear and  unequivocal.  She  observed that the  education budget                                                               
in  Alaska  had  been  unstable  for years  with  a  minimal  $30                                                               
increase  in the  BSA in  the  last six  years, leaving  negative                                                               
outcomes.    Stable and  predictable  funding  is necessary,  she                                                               
said, to  ensure districts  can attract  and retain  high quality                                                               
educators  and improve  student outcomes.   She  said her  school                                                               
district  [Petersburg,  Alaska] is  facing  a  $1 million  budget                                                               
deficit, and  the next steps  would be increased class  sizes and                                                               
reduced  programs,  among  many.   She  urged  the  committee  to                                                               
increase and inflation  proof the BSA to  ensure Alaska's schools                                                               
can meet important goals.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:28:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CRISTEN SAN ROMAN, representing self,  said she was testifying in                                                               
strong support of HB 65, and  opined that it is legislators  jobs                                                               
to make  sure that state money  is invested wisely.   She offered                                                               
her  perspective that  schools  have resources  that benefit  the                                                               
community, and a functional and  thriving community is built on a                                                               
strong education system, and adequate  funding being essential in                                                               
making that happen.   She noted that in Homer,  Alaska, there are                                                               
not many spaces for indoor  recreation and that theater programs,                                                               
which  may be  cut, are  important especially  in winter  months.                                                               
She spoke of some of her  favorite programs during and after high                                                               
school, and said  she is concerned that students may  not be able                                                               
to experience all that she did.   She stressed that 2017 money is                                                               
very different than 2023 money, and  said it is beyond time for a                                                               
BSA increase.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:31:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SARAH NUGENT, representing self, shared  that she was an educator                                                               
in  Kodiak, Alaska,  and  testified in  support of  HB  65.   She                                                               
offered her  educational background  and that of  her children's.                                                               
She implored  the committee  to do everything  in their  power to                                                               
make sure  HB 65 passes  into law, as  the BSA has  not increased                                                               
since 2017.   Inflation has increased, and it is  a disservice to                                                               
schools not to  increase the funding, she said.   If her district                                                               
does  not receive  more funding  soon, drastic  measures will  be                                                               
forced upon  them and  students will  suffer the  consequences of                                                               
such cuts,  she opined.   The public  schools are in  crisis mode                                                               
and the  Alaska legislature must  increase the BSA this  year and                                                               
do right by the children, she said.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:33:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TERRIE GOTTSTEIN,  representing self, testified in  support of HB
65.   She  pointed out  the last  seven years  of cuts  to school                                                               
budgets  while  other  costs  have  increased,  which  she  found                                                               
unbelievable.   The  bill would  at least  approach a  break-even                                                               
point on the  BSA, she said, and she quoted  a previous testifier                                                               
who said,  our  schools are not failing, they're  starving".  She                                                               
opined that the legislation had spent  itself into a hole and she                                                               
encouraged the committee to at  least pass the $1,250 increase to                                                               
the BSA  and inflation  proof it  so as not  to dig  further into                                                               
another hole.   Adequate funding,  she said, is  a constitutional                                                               
responsibility especially to public education in Alaska.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:37:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROY  GETCHEL,  Superintendent,  Haines Borough  School  District,                                                               
urged the  committee's support for HB  65 and an increase  to the                                                               
BSA, as  it had  not been  increased since 2016.   He  provided a                                                               
background   of  activities   his   students   in  his   district                                                               
participated in that he wished to  protect.  He added that hiring                                                               
quality staff  is the single  most important  thing he does  as a                                                               
school  leader, and  emphasized the  importance of  responding to                                                               
the pressures of the economic  situation immediately so that high                                                               
quality staff can be maintained for the benefit of the children.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:41:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REED DAVIDSON,  representing self,  said that  as a  student, she                                                               
strongly supported  HB 65.   She said  her district  in Anchorage                                                               
had an  estimated budget deficit  of $68 million for  fiscal year                                                               
2024  (FY 24),  and  academic curriculum  would  have to  suffer,                                                               
among  other things.   She  said she  had frequent  conversations                                                               
with  administrators  in  the school  district  that  all  become                                                               
centered  on  lack  of  funding.   She  urged  the  committee  to                                                               
allocate  funds   towards  education,  as  there   is  no  better                                                               
investment into the future of  Alaska than an investment into its                                                               
school system.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:43:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JAY GIBSON,  representing self,  testified in  support of  HB 65,                                                               
and offered  his background which  led to him being  an educator.                                                               
He said that when he graduated,  he had the flexibility to choose                                                               
where  he  wanted  to  teach,  but  it  was  competitive  teacher                                                               
salaries that brough him to  Alaska.  Now, uncompetitive salaries                                                               
are pricing  teachers out of  living in  the state and  making it                                                               
impossible to  sell these positions.   He  stated that it  is the                                                               
simple truth  that you  get what  you pay  for in  education just                                                               
like  in other  areas.   He  encouraged the  committee to  invest                                                               
funds into education and thanked them for their support.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:46:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LUANN  MCVEY,  representing self,  said  that  she is  a  retired                                                               
Alaska teacher and  a grandmother, and strongly  supported HB 65.                                                               
A  significant increase  is needed  for the  BSA for  teachers to                                                               
meet  the  needs  of  students in  public  schools,  she  opined.                                                               
Public schools, she  said, are inclusive and  teachers must teach                                                               
to each  student's needs.   When class  sizes boom even  the best                                                               
teachers  struggle,   and  in  addition  to   planning  student's                                                               
lessons,  they  must  locate  materials  at  appropriate  reading                                                               
levels as  well as maintain  interaction with students.   Funding                                                               
and  providing   for  public  education  is   a  constitutionally                                                               
mandated  job  of  the  state, and  without  an  appropriate  BSA                                                               
increase,  students will  lose out  on learning,  she said.   She                                                               
suggested  paying for  increases [in  education funding]  through                                                               
statewide  income tax,  reduce the  permanent fund  dividend, and                                                               
increase  taxes on  oil companies.   She  urged the  committee to                                                               
pass HB 65.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:49:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HEATHER CONN, Principal, Petersburg  School District, stated that                                                               
she is  a principal at  Stedman Elementary School  in Petersburg,                                                               
Alaska,  and  a  board  member   of  the  Alaska  Association  of                                                               
Elementary School Principals.   She said she supported  HB 65 and                                                               
asked  for  consistency  and reliability  in  education  funding.                                                               
Funding is necessary  to ensure the future  of Alaska's students,                                                               
she said.   She stated  that she  believed in education,  what is                                                               
done in her district's schools,  and she hoped the committee also                                                               
believed in the public education system and would support HB 65.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:51:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JASON TAURIAINEN, representing  self, related that he  had been a                                                               
public-school student and had spent  some time in private schools                                                               
as well.   He said  public school is a  constitutional obligation                                                               
for the  state government,  and he  saw opportunities  within the                                                               
school system  slowly start  to erode  due to  flat funding.   He                                                               
stated that his  family leans in, not away  from public education                                                               
and  that his  children  had been  successful  through their  own                                                               
public education.  He said if it  came down to how funding can be                                                               
accomplished, he would choose sales  tax, or consumption tax.  He                                                               
stressed  that   something  needs   to  be  done   to  accomplish                                                               
investment in the state's education.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:54:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROBYN CAPP,  representing self,  testified in  support of  HB 65,                                                               
and related that she was  a special education educator and parent                                                               
of a  special needs child.   She said she is  deeply committed to                                                               
the success of  every student regardless of  their ability level,                                                               
and  that   supported  schools   today  are   growing  tomorrow's                                                               
inventors  and leaders.   She  expressed  that she  had seen  the                                                               
impact of insufficient funding in  Fairbanks, and it is magnified                                                               
when students with  disabilities are looked at.   She offered her                                                               
belief  that  reliable  funding   is  key  to  improving  student                                                               
outcomes, and she asked the committee to support HB 65.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:57:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAN POLTA, Superintendent, Denali  Borough School District, spoke                                                               
in support of HB 65 and  urged the committee to advance the bill.                                                               
Students deserve  and need  support, and  many years  of stagnant                                                               
funding had  negative impacts towards fully  supporting students,                                                               
he said.   Schools  can no longer  offer attractive  salaries and                                                               
wages  to  teachers  so  they   can  nurture  students'  love  of                                                               
learning.     Children   need  support,   deserve  an   excellent                                                               
education, and he opined HB 65 would be a powerful step.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:58:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CYNDY   MIKA,  Superintendent,   Kodiak  Island   Borough  School                                                               
District, said  that as an educator,  superintendent, and parent,                                                               
she spoke  in favor of  HB 65 and the  full increase to  the BSA.                                                               
For years, the  BSA has been flat-funded  and inflation continues                                                               
to rise.   In actuality, she said, funding is  less than previous                                                               
years  resulting in  a severe  disadvantage to  public education.                                                               
Inflation proofing  education funding  and increasing the  BSA is                                                               
necessary to ensure districts can  provide high quality education                                                               
and educators,  she opined.   She reiterated her support  for the                                                               
full increase to the BSA in HB 65.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:01:09 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REBECCA INGALLS, Teacher's Union  of Bristol Bay School District,                                                               
provided her educational background  and affirmed her support and                                                               
encouragement  for   the  passage   of  HB  65.     There   is  a                                                               
constitutional  obligation to  provide an  adequate education  to                                                               
every  student  in the  state,  and  she  stated that  the  world                                                               
children live  in today is  not the  same world as  their parents                                                               
grew  up  in.   Inconsistent  funding  for education  has  caused                                                               
schools to  do more with less  for a number of  years, along with                                                               
cutting educators  and programs.   Staffers, she said,  also have                                                               
to do  their jobs, and then  some, which makes it  more difficult                                                               
to direct  individual attention  towards each  child.   She spoke                                                               
briefly about testing and said that  kids are so much more than a                                                               
test  score.    She  believed that  comparing  states  through  a                                                               
national test when  each state does things differently  is not an                                                               
adequate  comparison.   She urged  the committee  to visit  local                                                               
schools to see the issues they face.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:04:40 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHRISTY JORDAN, representing self, testified  in support of HB 65                                                               
and  related that  she  was an  elementary  school counselor  and                                                               
mother  of a  special needs  child.   She  offered a  story of  a                                                               
family she knew  who considered leaving Alaska, a  theme she said                                                               
that she  had seen much more  in recent times because  of lack of                                                               
opportunities.  She added that music  and art in the schools have                                                               
been lost and there is talk of  closing the only local pool.  She                                                               
stressed the  importance of the  pool as a  life-saving necessity                                                               
where children learn how to swim.   She said it was heartbreaking                                                               
when she  hears of children not  seeing a future in  Alaska.  She                                                               
brought up  computerized testing  that can  last over  four days,                                                               
and the  inaccuracies that can  result.  She asked  the committee                                                               
to provide more opportunities for  children, so they want to stay                                                               
in the state.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:07:44 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RUFFRIDGE closed public testimony on HB 65.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
[HB 65 was held over.]                                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 65 oppose received as of 3.20.23 redacted.pdf HEDC 3/21/2023 5:15:00 PM
HB 65
HB 65 Support received as of 3.20.23 Redacted.pdf HEDC 3/21/2023 5:15:00 PM
HB 65
HB 65 fiscal note 2.10.23- DEED.pdf HEDC 3/21/2023 5:15:00 PM
HB 65
HB 65 fiscal note- Fund Capitalization 2.10.23.pdf HEDC 3/21/2023 5:15:00 PM
HB 65
HB65 Sectional Analysis ver A 2.9.23.pdf HEDC 3/21/2023 5:15:00 PM
HB 65
HB65 Sponsor Statement ver A 2.9.23.pdf HEDC 3/21/2023 5:15:00 PM
HB 65
HB65 ver A.PDF HEDC 3/21/2023 5:15:00 PM
HB 65