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02/19/2025 03:30 PM Senate RESOURCES
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                     SSCR 1-DISAPPROVE EO 136                                                                               
^EO 136                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
             EO-136 - ESTABLISH DEPT OF AGRICULTURE                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:31:12 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL announced the consideration of SENATE SPECIAL                                                                     
CONCURRENT RESOLUTION NO. 1 Disapproving Executive Order No.                                                                    
136.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GIESSEL read the resolution:                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
           SENATE SPECIAL CONCURRENT RESOLUTION NO. 1                                                                         
           IN THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF Alaska                                                                            
           THIRTY-FOURTH LEGISLATURE - FIRST SESSION                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     BY THE SENATE RULES COMMITTEE                                                                                              
     Introduced: 1/27/25 Referred: Resources, Finance                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                          A RESOLUTION                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Disapproving Executive Order No. 136.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     BE  IT RESOLVED  BY  THE LEGISLATURE  OF  THE STATE  OF                                                                  
     ALASKA:                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
          WHEREAS  the  governor,  under authority  of  art.                                                                  
     III, sec. 23, Constitution of  the State of Alaska, has                                                                    
     proposed  in Executive  Order No.  136, to  establish a                                                                    
     Department  of   Agriculture  and   transfer  functions                                                                    
     relating  to agriculture  that are  currently performed                                                                    
     by  the Department  of Natural  Resources to  the newly                                                                    
     established Department of Agriculture; and                                                                                 
          WHEREAS  art. III,  sec. 23,  Constitution of  the                                                                  
     State  of  Alaska,  provides  that  unless  disapproved                                                                    
     within  60  days of  a  regular  session by  resolution                                                                    
     concurred  in  by a  majority  of  the members  of  the                                                                    
     legislature  in  joint   session,  an  executive  order                                                                    
         becomes effective at a date designated by the                                                                          
     governor; 11                                                                                                               
         BE IT RESOLVED by the Alaska State Legislature                                                                       
     that Executive Order No. 136 is disapproved.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:33:17 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL opened public testimony on SSCR 1.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:33:49 PM                                                                                                                    
DUNCAN  FIELDS,   President,  Kodiak  Livestock   Co-op,  Kodiak,                                                               
Alaska, testified in support of EO  136. He said the co-op, which                                                               
operated a  slaughter facility and included  most local livestock                                                               
raisers,   has  had   a  good   working  relationship   with  the                                                               
[Department of Natural Resources  (DNR)], Division of Agriculture                                                               
but noted  that funding  has often been  insufficient due  to the                                                               
division's  low   priority  within  the  Department   of  Natural                                                               
Resources. Despite concerns  about costs, as indicated  by a zero                                                               
fiscal note, the  co-op advocated for the creation  of a separate                                                               
department to support the agriculture industry in Alaska.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:35:16 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL thanked  Mr. Fields and sought to  clarify that the                                                               
zero fiscal note  [from the Department of  Natural Resources, OMB                                                               
Component Number 0,  dated February 18, 2025] was for  SSCR 1 and                                                               
that EO  136 had a [Statement  of Cost, dated February  11, 2025]                                                               
for $2.7 million.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:36:06 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL closed public testimony on SSCR 1.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:36:14 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL solicited the will of the committee.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:36:18 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR    WIELECHOWSKI   moved    EO    136   with    individual                                                               
recommendations  be  reported from  committee  and  SSCR 1,  work                                                               
order  34-LS045\A with  individual  recommendations and  attached                                                               
fiscal   note(s)  be   reported   from   committee  for   further                                                               
consideration in the Senate.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:36:38 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES objected.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:36:39 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL invited Senator Hughes to speak to her objection.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:36:44 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  HUGHES  emphasized  the  once  in  a  multi-generational                                                               
opportunity to establish a Department  of Agriculture, citing its                                                               
potential  benefits and  cost-effectiveness compared  to existing                                                               
departments.  She  highlighted  support from  producers  and  the                                                               
Alaska  Food   Strategy  Task  Force,  noting   the  department's                                                               
potential  to  contribute to  the  state's  GDP and  address  new                                                               
agricultural opportunities due to climate change.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:38:27 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES discussed the limitations  of the current Division                                                               
of Agriculture. She said the  current commissioner indicated that                                                               
he could  not handle the 35  or 36 recommendations from  the task                                                               
force  due  to  other  priorities   within  his  department.  She                                                               
emphasized the importance  of having a seat at  the cabinet table                                                               
for future governors, emphasizing the long-term benefits.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:40:37 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES argued  that petty politics should  not hinder the                                                               
establishment  of  the  Department of  Agriculture,  citing  past                                                               
support  from  legislators  and   the  importance  of  supporting                                                               
farmers  and  ranchers. She  noted  federal  support for  locally                                                               
grown nutritious food and the  potential for exports to countries                                                               
like Japan.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGHES  suggested  delaying  the  establishment  of  the                                                               
Department of  Agriculture could put Alaska  in a disadvantageous                                                               
position  in the  future and  said it  was an  issue of  life and                                                               
safety,  arguing that  good, nutritious  food  was essential  for                                                               
community health and education.  She argued against comparing the                                                               
Department of Agriculture to education  funding, stating that the                                                               
Department of  Agriculture was  crucial for  providing nutritious                                                               
food for children in schools.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGHES  reiterated the  small  financial  impact of  the                                                               
Department of  Agriculture and the tremendous  bipartisan support                                                               
it had  in the public. She  said she hoped members  would not let                                                               
petty  politics prevent  the establishment  of the  Department of                                                               
Agriculture, emphasizing its long-term benefits.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:43:16 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  CLAMAN  raised   a  point  of  order.   He  objected  to                                                               
references to "petty politics", and  said it impugned the motives                                                               
of other members of the committee and the legislature.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:43:25 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  HUGHES  urged members  to  consider  what was  best  for                                                               
Alaskans  and  the  [agriculture]   industry,  a  responsive  and                                                               
efficient  system to  remove barriers  and coordinate  activities                                                               
like  transportation  and  product  movement.  She  concluded  by                                                               
stating  she  would vote  against  moving  the rejection  out  of                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:44:10 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL  recognized the presence of  Senator Kelly Merrick,                                                               
Representative Elexie Moore  and Representative Jubilee Underwood                                                               
in the audience.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:44:28 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI clarified  that voting to move  [SSCR 1] out                                                               
of the  committee was not a  rejection of [EO 1]  but a necessary                                                               
step  to send  it  to  the Finance  Committee.  He explained  the                                                               
unique constitutional structure that allows  for a joint vote. He                                                               
emphasized that 13 positions created by  EO 1 were not related to                                                               
farming  but   were  part  of   a  new  bureaucracy   within  the                                                               
government. He  highlighted the significant fiscal  note attached                                                               
to  EO 1,  amounting  to  $2.7 million  to  start, with  expected                                                               
additional costs of millions more  in following years. He pointed                                                               
out the $500  million deficit expected in the next  two years and                                                               
the Finance Committee's  scrutiny of bills with  fiscal notes. He                                                               
said there was a possibility he would  vote for [EO 1] in the end                                                               
but  stressed   the  importance   of  evaluating   the  financial                                                               
implications  first. He  concluded by  urging members  to support                                                               
the motion's referral to the Finance Committee.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:46:46 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN  said he would be  voting to move [SSCR  1] to the                                                               
Finance Committee.  He also  said it would  be appropriate  for a                                                               
joint session to  take up. He said supporting [SSCR  1] or voting                                                               
not to  support a  Department of  Agriculture was  not equivalent                                                               
with a lack of support  for the [agriculture] industry in Alaska.                                                               
He pointed  out that current  initiatives proposed  and presented                                                               
to the  legislature would be  supported by the  current [Division                                                               
of Agriculture] structure. He urged  passing [SSCR 1] to the next                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:47:38 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAWASAKI  noted his  participation in  the Food  and Farm                                                               
Caucus and  said creating a  Department of Agriculture  was often                                                               
discussed;  he  emphasized  the  complexity  of  creating  a  new                                                               
department. He noted  that he had co-sponsored  a bill introduced                                                               
by  Representative   Thompson  in  2011,  and   he  supported  an                                                               
agriculture department  separate from the current  DNR structure.                                                               
He  argued  that the  creation  of  a  new department  should  be                                                               
debated in  a deliberative committee  setting rather than  on the                                                               
floor  of the  house  or  during a  joint  session. He  expressed                                                               
support  for advancing  the issue  to the  Finance Committee  for                                                               
further consideration.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:49:05 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES  relayed clarification  from the Farm  Bureau that                                                               
the  administrative positions  referred  to in  the Statement  of                                                               
Cost for EO  136 would be relieved of  administrative duties that                                                               
they  now  do to  increase  their  opportunity  to focus  on  the                                                               
producers. She said the deputy  commissioner and commissioner [of                                                               
the  new  department]  would  be  focused  on  working  with  the                                                               
producers and the ranchers rather than on administration.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:50:12 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL found the objection  was maintained and asked for a                                                               
roll call vote.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
A   roll  call   vote   was  taken.   Senators  Dunbar,   Claman,                                                               
Wielechowski, Kawasaki  and Giessel  voted in favor  of reporting                                                               
SSCR 1  with individual recommendations and  attached fiscal note                                                               
from committee  for further consideration and  Senators Myers and                                                               
Hughes voted against it. The vote was 5:2.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:50:36 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL announced  that EO  136 and  SSCR 1  were reported                                                               
from committee on a vote of 5 yeas and 2 nays.                                                                                  
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects | 
|---|---|---|
| SSCR 1 Fiscal Note (S)RES.pdf | SRES       2/19/2025 3:30:00 PM | SSCR 1 | 
| 2.12.25 EO 136 Department of Agriculture Statement of Cost.pdf | SRES       2/19/2025 3:30:00 PM | SSCR 1 | 
| SSCR01A.pdf | SRES       2/19/2025 3:30:00 PM | SSCR 1 | 
| 2.12.25 EO 136 Dept of Agriculture DNR presentation SRES.pdf | SRES       2/19/2025 3:30:00 PM | SSCR 1 | 
| 2.12.25 Legal Memorandum, Governor's Executive Order establishing a Department of Agriculture.pdf | SRES       2/19/2025 3:30:00 PM | SSCR 1 | 
| 25-015mjt.pdf | SRES       2/19/2025 3:30:00 PM | SSCR 1 | 
| SB 92- Sectional Analysis.pdf | SRES       2/19/2025 3:30:00 PM | SB  92 | 
| SB 92- Sponsor Statement.pdf | SRES       2/19/2025 3:30:00 PM | SB  92 | 
| SB0092A.pdf | SRES       2/19/2025 3:30:00 PM | SB  92 | 
| SB 92 Fiscal Note DOR.pdf | SRES       2/19/2025 3:30:00 PM | SB  92 | 
| 2.19.25 SB 92 Combined Historical Documents Provided by (S)RES.pdf | SRES       2/19/2025 3:30:00 PM | SB  92 |