Legislature(2025 - 2026)BARNES 124

05/14/2025 01:00 PM House RESOURCES

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
-- Delayed to a Call of the Chair --
*+ HB 206 OIL AND GAS DATA TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ SJR 17 HONORING THE ENERGY COUNCIL TELECONFERENCED
Moved SJR 17 Out of Committee
+ SJR 8 INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS WITH TAIWAN TELECONFERENCED
Moved SJR 8 Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= SB 29 BIG GAME COMMERCIAL SERVICES BOARD TELECONFERENCED
Moved SB 29 Out of Committee
+= SJR 19 ANWR & NAT'L PETRO RESERVE: STATE SHARE TELECONFERENCED
Moved HCS CSSJR 19(RES) Out of Committee
         SJR 19-ANWR & NAT'L PETRO RESERVE: STATE SHARE                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:04:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR BURKE  announced that the  next order of  business would                                                               
be  SENATE JOINT  RESOLUTION  NO. 19,  Urging  the United  States                                                               
Congress to  honor the terms of  the Mineral Leasing Act  and the                                                               
Alaska  Statehood Act  and provide  the state  with a  90 percent                                                               
share  of all  bonuses, royalties,  and rentals  received by  the                                                               
federal government  from the Arctic National  Wildlife Refuge and                                                               
the National Petroleum Reserve in Alaska.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:05:05 PM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DIBERT  moved that Resources  committee adopt  the draft                                                               
committee substitute for  SJR 19, work order  34-LS0840\O, as the                                                               
working document.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:05:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER objected for the sake of discussion.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:05:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALVIN   ZUELOW,  Staff,   Representative  Burke,   Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  explained the  proposed  committee substitute  (CS)                                                               
for SJR  19,.  He  drew the  committee's attention to  version H,                                                               
page  4, line  2, it  deletes language  that read,  "small number                                                               
of," referring  to communities that  received impact grants.   In                                                               
version H, page 4, line 22,  the CS adds language reading, "while                                                               
maintaining the original local impact grant program."                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:06:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR JESSE BJORKMAN, Alaska State  Legislature, responded to a                                                               
question  from Representative  Rauscher, by  explaining that  the                                                               
issue of  impact grants will need  to addressed.  As  more fields                                                               
are  developed on  federal land,  and the  size of  those impacts                                                               
increase,  more attention  will be  paid to  the amount  of money                                                               
delivered through the  impact grants as well as  what the impacts                                                               
of development  are on  those communities.   Also, there  will be                                                               
more focus  on what the impact  money is used for.   He explained                                                               
that he didn't necessarily take  issue with mentioning the impact                                                               
grants in  the resolution.   However, he suggested  that everyone                                                               
would need a clear understanding of  what the program is, what it                                                               
does, its  intention, and the impact  that it will have  on those                                                               
five or  six affected  communities in  the North  Slope district.                                                               
There will  alco be  interest in  that will mean  to the  rest of                                                               
Alaska.  He explained he had  hoped to avoid this conversation in                                                               
this  resolution,   but  the  conversation  is   one  that  would                                                               
eventually become unavoidable.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:08:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  BURKE   responded  to  a  question   by  Representative                                                               
Rauscher by explaining that having  the discussion is unavoidable                                                               
and it is important to address.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:08:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER removed his objection.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:08:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
There  being   no  objection,   the  House   Resources  Committee                                                               
Substitute for Senate Joint Resolution 19 was adopted.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:09:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DIBERT moved Senate Joint  Resolution 19, work order 34-                                                               
LS0840\O  from  committee  with attached  zero  fiscal  note  and                                                               
individual recommendations.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER objected.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:09:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease at 2:09 p.m.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:10:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER  spoke to his objection,  explaining that                                                               
there  needed   to  be  a   discussion  regarding   the  affected                                                               
communities.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:11:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  BURKE  addressed Representative  Rauscher's  objection.                                                               
She described  discussions with her  constituents and  with North                                                               
Slope Borough Mayor  Patkotak.  She emphasized  the importance of                                                               
mitigation funding to the state  as well as impacted communities.                                                               
She pointed  out that in  current law, Congress required  that 50                                                               
percent  of  all  federal   lease  revenues,  including  bonuses,                                                               
rentals, and royalties, must go to  the state of Alaska, and that                                                               
those  funds  must  go  to support  the  most  directly  impacted                                                               
communities.  There  was discussion happening on  a federal level                                                               
regarding  the  90/10.   [The  90/10  referred to  the  statehood                                                               
promise that 90  percent of royalties from  production on federal                                                               
lands would go  to Alaska, and the remaining 10  percent would go                                                               
to the  federal government.]   She  explained that  she supported                                                               
the  resolution,  including the  additional  40  percent for  all                                                               
Alaskans.   But  as previously  stated, for  communities such  as                                                               
Atqasuk,  Nuiqsut, Wainwright,  and Utqiagvik  the impact  grants                                                               
are essential.  The grants  support the infrastructure and public                                                               
services  needed  to live  safely  and  sustainably in  a  region                                                               
heavily affected  by industrial  activity.  Absent  that support,                                                               
the  communities are  left to  bear the  impacts of  oil and  gas                                                               
development  without the  resources to  respond.   In the  1980's                                                               
when the  state diverted these  funds elsewhere, the  North Slope                                                               
communities  took that  matter  to  court and  won.   The  ruling                                                               
affirmed the state must fund the impacted communities first.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:13:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  BURKE, in  response to  a question  from Representative                                                               
Rauscher, explained that  she had worked with  Mayor Patkotak and                                                               
his office on drafting the changes.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER removed his objection.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:13:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ELAM objected  for the purpose of  discussion.  He                                                               
asked about the level of impact.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR BURKE explained that the  intent of the resolution is to                                                               
urge the  additional 40 percent  from the federal  government for                                                               
the full  90/10 and honor the  mineral leasing act in  the Alaska                                                               
Statehood Act.  She commented  that the industry will continue to                                                               
grow,  particularly  in  the  National  Petroleum  Reserve-Alaska                                                               
(NPR-A) regions and will continue  to impact the communities that                                                               
are in NPR-A.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:14:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BJORKMAN acknowledged the  importance of the conversation                                                               
and said  it would need additional  time to discuss.   He pointed                                                               
out that  both the resolution as  written as well as  the amended                                                               
CS don't affect the grant program.   He stated that the amount of                                                               
money is  around the $30 million  per year mark, and  the Revenue                                                               
Sources  book  posits  that  amount of  money  will  increase  by                                                               
approximately eight to ten times over  the course of the years as                                                               
a  result  of  increased  production.    Though  it  will  be  an                                                               
important discussion  to have as  a state,  it would not  need to                                                               
appear  within  the context  of  the  resolution.   His  original                                                               
intent had  been to be  silent on  impact grants, but  he clearly                                                               
understood why those were important  considerations.  The primary                                                               
thrust remained  that the 90 percent  share needs to come  to the                                                               
state of Alaska.  Once the  money gets here, what happens to that                                                               
90 percent would be a different conversation.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:16:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  BURKE   answered  "yes"  to   Representative  Raucher's                                                               
question regarding  whether Congressman  Begich had  included the                                                               
90/10 in the reconciliation package.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:17:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BJORKMAN  addressed  a  series  of  questions  posed  by                                                               
Representative  Saddler regarding  the projected  distribution of                                                               
the  90 percent.    He  explained that  if  the  impact grant  is                                                               
preserved as  is, the impacted  communities would get  50 percent                                                               
of the state's  share of 90 percent, and the  state would get 40.                                                               
There are conversations that could  happen as to what communities                                                               
are impacted, what  is considered an impact, and  what the impact                                                               
money can  be used for.   He stated that communities  should have                                                               
compensation  when   they  are   impacted.    He   clarified  the                                                               
percentages  and the  split  regarding the  total  amount of  the                                                               
royalties that would be generated,                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:19:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ELAM removed his objection.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:19:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  BURKE,  in response  to  a  question by  Representative                                                               
Coulombe,  explained why  the  change was  in the  form  of a  CS                                                               
rather than a resolution.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COULOMBE  maintained her objection.   She spoke to                                                               
her objection.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:20:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BJORKMAN clarified  his position  and said  he respected                                                               
the will of the committee.  He  pointed out that in order for the                                                               
state  to secure  its birthright,  the  90 percent  share of  the                                                               
royalties, it is important to move this resolution forward.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  BURKE  explained  that  she  had  worked  with  Senator                                                               
Bjorkman  as   well  as   having  extensive   conversations  with                                                               
constituents prior to offering the CS.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:21:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COULOMBE removed her objection.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:21:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease at 2:21 p.m.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:22:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Seeing  no further  objections,  Senate Joint  Resolution 19  was                                                               
reported out of the House Resources Standing Committee.                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 206 Presentation.pdf HRES 5/14/2025 1:00:00 PM
HB 206
HB 206 Sponsor Statement.pdf HRES 5/14/2025 1:00:00 PM
HB 206
HB 206 Sectional Analysis.pdf HRES 5/14/2025 1:00:00 PM
HB 206
SJR 8 Sponsor Statement .pdf HRES 5/14/2025 1:00:00 PM
SJR 8
SJR 8 supporting doc - Office Rent Subsidy for Offices of Foreign State Govts.pdf HRES 5/14/2025 1:00:00 PM
SJR 8
Draft HCSSJR 19 (RES) ver O.pdf HRES 5/14/2025 1:00:00 PM
SJR 19
SJR 19 summary of changes ver H to O.pdf HRES 5/14/2025 1:00:00 PM
SJR 19
SJR 17 Sponsor Statement version A 5.13.25.pdf HRES 5/14/2025 1:00:00 PM
SJR 17