Legislature(2023 - 2024)BARNES 124
03/07/2024 08:00 AM House COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS
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| HB317 | |
| SJR13 | |
| Adjourn |
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| *+ | HB 5 | TELECONFERENCED | |
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| + | SJR 13 | TELECONFERENCED | |
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SJR 13-AMEND ALASKA NATIVE CLAIMS SETTLEMENT ACT
8:57:46 AM
CHAIR MCCORMICK announced that the final order of business would
be SENATE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 13, Encouraging the United States
Congress and the President of the United States to pass and sign
legislation amending the Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act to
release certain land held in trust back to affected Alaska
Native village corporations.
8:58:05 AM
SENATOR FORREST DUNBAR, Alaska State Legislature, prime sponsor,
presented SJR 13. He paraphrased the sponsor statement
[included in the committee packet], which read as follows
[original punctuation provided]:
SJR 13 supports the Alaska Native Village Municipal
Lands Restoration Act of 2023 introduced in S.2615 by
Senators Murkowski and Sullivan and H.R. 6489 by
Congresswoman Peltola in response to the desire of the
state of Alaska to end the Municipal Lands Trust
(MLT).
Rural communities across Alaska are facing challenges
due to the lack of affordable housing and limited
opportunities for economic and community development.
One of the contributing factors challenging many
communities is a legacy of the Alaska Native Claims
Settlement Act (ANCSA).
When it was enacted, section 14 (c)(3) of ANCSA
required the reservation of lands allotted to Alaska
Native Village Corporations for future municipalities.
Today, those lands are held in trust by the state of
Alaska through the MLT. The architects of ANCSA did
not consider that many communities would not
incorporate under Alaska state law. Only 8 ANCSA
villages have formed a new municipality to date, the
last in 1995. Today, the MLT holds approximately
11,500 acres and the state of Alaska is forced by its
trust responsibility to manage these lands in way that
limits access and opportunity in communities.
SJR 13 expresses the Alaska State Legislature's
support for the Alaska Native Village Municipal Lands
Restoration Act of 2023, joining groups like the
Alaska Federation of Natives, Alaska Native Village
Corporation Association and State of Alaska in support
of dissolving the trust and returning lands to support
community development. I urge you to support SJR 13.
9:00:51 AM
GREGG RENKES, Senior Vice President for Government Relations,
Chenega Corporation, gave invited testimony during the hearing
on SJR 13. He said SJR 13, along with the governor's support,
would help Alaska's delegation push the [Alaska Native Village
Municipal Lands Restoration Act of 223] with the hope of it
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becoming law by the end of the 118 United States Congress. The
federal legislation addresses a loose end and unintended
consequences of the Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act (ANCSA).
He highlighted Section 14(c)(3) of ANCSA and explained that for
the vast majority of villages, the land is still being managed
by the state Municipal Lands Trustee (MLT) Program. Decades
after the passage of ANCSA and many years after village
corporations turned over land, no new municipalities have been
created. In the 50 years that the state has administered the
federal program for nearly 50 years, only 8 ANCSA villages have
formed a new municipality. Perpetual management of these lands
in the state trust was not envisioned by the crafters of ANCSA.
He said it's time to return the land to these village
corporations so they can own and manage the land for the benefit
of their community members and shareholders. He noted the
difficulty of developing these lands due to restrictions imposed
by the state's fiduciary responsibility to a future, yet
unknown, municipality. He reported that 83 communities across
Alaska still have their land tied up in the MLT program. In
addition to the 83 communities, all village corporations and
communities that want to develop their lands but have never
participated in the land trust must deal with the cloud on
title. He explained that many buildable areas in Chenega that
could be future development sites fall within lands held by the
trust, undermining the corporation's right to self-determination
and self-governance. He asserted that Chenega should control
these lands, not the State of Alaska. Most critically, the MLT
program prevents Chanega from improving the community with
additional housing and creating economic opportunity for the
residents. He said the unintended consequences, such as the
failure of the land trust to provide a sunset provision, need to
be addressed to fulfill the promise of ANCSA and allow for
economic opportunity and housing in small communities across the
state.
9:09:55 AM
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE asked whether the state is supposed to be
managing lands held in the MLT program.
MR. RENKES said the state had taken responsibility as the
fiduciary to a future municipality not to allow any use of these
lands that would predetermine their uses by said municipality.
He said the safest legal path forward for the state is to allow
limited use of the lands to keep them intact for future use.
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE asked whether the state, as the fiduciary,
should be maintaining the land with proper forest management
practices.
MR. RENKES said proactive measures to protect the lands would be
part of the state's fiduciary responsibility; however, most of
the 11,550 acres in the trust are vacant lands in the centers of
small village communities.
9:14:05 AM
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT asked whether the original intent was
to make the land available for a "state function," such as a
courthouse.
MR. RENKES answered yes.
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT inquired about the communities' various
levels of reconveyance and sought to confirm that [the federal
legislation] would remove state ownership and return the lands
to the communities.
MR. RENKES responded yes, regardless of partial or full re-
conveyance, or no conveyance, all village corporations would be
put be "put back on the same footing" in control of the lands in
these communities.
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT noted the huge struggle to place Alaska
Department of Fish & Game (ADF&G) biologists and teachers in
remote places throughout the state. She asked whether the
opportunity to house a trooper in a bunk house would be lost if
the land is returned.
MR. RENKES said even now that is not possible because it
violates appropriate use of the land. However, housing is a
critical need, so returning land to the village corporation
could free up opportunity for workforce housing.
9:19:02 AM
MARJORIE MARY, President, Baan O Yeel Kon (BOYK) Corporation,
gave invited testimony during the hearing on SJR 13. She
provided a brief history of Rampart Village, a federally
recognized Tribe located on the banks of the Yukon River
approximately 120 air miles north of Fairbanks. She said the
formula provided in ANCSA Section 14(c)(3) has proved
problematic to the BOYK Corporation since the passage of the
law, and as a result, the corporation chose to provide those
lands via lease or by quitclaim deed to the Rampart Village
council for bonafide municipal use. She explained most
recently, the corporation attempted to support the council with
10 acres of land selected with the assistance of the Department
of Environmental Conservation (DEC) for the development of a new
community landfill and obtained U.S. Environmental Protection
Agency (USEPA) grant funds that would build a road to the
approved site; however, the MLT program decided not to accept
the parcel. Consequently, with no other recourse, the
corporation transferred the deed via quitclaim directly to the
council, as well as a portion of land adjacent to the airport,
that would allow access to a gravel site and the development of
a new baseball park. She said while the BOYK corporation wishes
to comply with ANCSA's terms, they also have a duty to
shareholders and the community. She opined that the management
of the municipal trust has been a major impediment to rural
Alaska's economic development. She urged full consideration of
SJR 13. If the legislation passes, she said the corporation
would continue to work to fulfill land requirements of the Tribe
without the additional constraints and lackadaisical management
of the MLT program thwarting their growth.
9:24:42 AM
BENJAMIN MALLOTT, Vice President, Alaska Federation of Natives
(AFN), gave invited testimony during the hearing on SJR 13. He
said AFN has long supported Section 14(c)(3) legislation and
passed multiple resolutions urging congress to restore lands
conveyed under ANCSA. He said that having the state unified
with Alaska corporations and villages makes a big difference and
characterized SJR 13 as a big step forward.
CHAIR MCCORMICK invited questions from committee members.
9:27:02 AM
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE shared his understanding that the
provision under Section 14(c)(3) was intended to incentivize
incorporation, which 8 communities have accomplished. He
questioned the barrier to other villages following suit.
SENATOR DUNBAR reiterated that the land was intended for
municipal facilities. He spoke to the difficulty of working
with the state to build housing, for example, which would spur
incorporation.
MR. RENKES said the capacity and cost of setting up municipal
government makes it "awkward" for small villages, so Tribes or
village corporations have taken over some of those
responsibilities.
9:30:58 AM
REPRESENTATIVE MCKAY referenced a sentence in the governor's
letter [included in the committee packet] and asked how SJR 13
would affect the pipeline.
SENATOR DUNBAR shared his belief that it would not affect the
pipeline and suggested that the governor's words may be a
request for a broader revision of ANCSA.
MR. RENKES said the issue referenced by Representative McKay has
nothing to do with Section 14(c)(3).
9:32:43 AM
CHAIR MCCORMICK shared his belief that SJR 13 would address the
housing crisis in rural Alaska and for that reason, he intended
to move it forwarded as quickly as possible. He announced that
SJR 13 would be held over.
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| HB 5 Sectional Analysis.pdf |
HCRA 3/7/2024 8:00:00 AM |
HB 5 |
| HB 5 Sponsor Statement.pdf |
HCRA 3/7/2024 8:00:00 AM |
HB 5 |
| HB 5 Version A.PDF |
HCRA 3/7/2024 8:00:00 AM |
HB 5 |
| HB 317 Sectional Analysis - Version A.pdf |
HCRA 3/7/2024 8:00:00 AM |
HB 317 |
| HB 317 Sponsor Statement - Version A.pdf |
HCRA 3/7/2024 8:00:00 AM |
HB 317 |
| HB 317 Version A.pdf |
HCRA 3/7/2024 8:00:00 AM |
HB 317 |
| SJR 13 Fiscal Note.pdf |
HCRA 3/7/2024 8:00:00 AM |
SJR 13 |
| SJR 13 Sponsor Statement.pdf |
HCRA 3/7/2024 8:00:00 AM |
SJR 13 |
| SJR 13 MLT Presentation to SCRA 2023-04-20.pdf |
HCRA 3/7/2024 8:00:00 AM |
SJR 13 |
| SJR 13 Support Documents Received by 1.30.2024.pdf |
HCRA 3/7/2024 8:00:00 AM |
SJR 13 |
| SJR 13 Version A.pdf |
HCRA 3/7/2024 8:00:00 AM |
SJR 13 |
| HB317 Presentation 3.7.24.pdf |
HCRA 3/7/2024 8:00:00 AM |
HB 317 |
| HB 5 Letter of Opposition 5.2.24.pdf |
HCRA 3/7/2024 8:00:00 AM |
HB 5 |