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01/20/2026 03:30 PM Senate STATE AFFAIRS

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03:30:44 PM Start
03:31:48 PM SJR2
03:58:22 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
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*+ SJR 2 CONST. AM: VOTES NEEDED FOR VETO OVERRIDE TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+= SJR 13 APPOINTMENT OF STATE JUDGES TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled but Not Heard
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled
        SJR  2-CONST. AM: VOTES NEEDED FOR VETO OVERRIDE                                                                    
3:31:48 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAWASAKI  announced  the  consideration  of  SENATE  JOINT                                                               
RESOLUTION NO.  2 Proposing an  amendment to the  Constitution of                                                               
the State of Alaska relating to actions upon veto.                                                                              
3:32:14 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  MATT  CLAMAN,  District  H,  Alaska  State  Legislature,                                                               
Juneau,  Alaska,  sponsor  of  SJR  2  introduced  the  following                                                               
legislation:                                                                                                                    
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
     Senate Joint Resolution 2 makes  an important change to                                                                    
     our state Constitution to  improve our public's ability                                                                    
     to  influence executive  and  legislative decisions  on                                                                    
     revenue  and  appropriations  matters. It  would  amend                                                                    
     Article  II, Section  16 of  our Constitution  to lower                                                                    
     the    override    requirements   for    revenue    and                                                                    
     appropriations   vetoes  from   three-fourths  of   the                                                                    
     legislature sitting  in Joint Session, or  45 votes, to                                                                    
     two-thirds, or 40 votes.                                                                                                   
     Alaska has  the highest  requirements for  overriding a                                                                    
     revenue or  appropriations veto of any  state. Only one                                                                    
     other  state  - Arizona  -  comes  close to  this  high                                                                    
     override  standard. Arizona  shares the  three-quarters                                                                    
     override vote  requirement for  a vetoed  revenue bill,                                                                    
     but   Arizona   requires   only   two-thirds   of   the                                                                    
     legislators to override an appropriations item.                                                                            
3:33:11 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN continued with the introduction of SJR 2:                                                                        
     The   other  48   states   all   have  lower   override                                                                    
     requirements for revenue  and appropriation bills. Most                                                                    
     states require a two-thirds  vote from both legislative                                                                    
     chambers  to  override   a  gubernatorial  veto.  Seven                                                                    
     states  require a  three-fifths  vote,  and six  states                                                                    
     only   require   a    simple   majority.   Few   states                                                                    
     differentiate     between     vetoed    revenue     and                                                                    
     appropriations items and typical policy bills.                                                                             
     The three-quarters vote  requirement makes it extremely                                                                    
     difficult for the Legislature to  override a revenue or                                                                    
     appropriations  veto.  In  the past  two  decades,  the                                                                    
     Legislature has  only twice overrode  an appropriations                                                                    
     veto.  And  many  legislators  are  familiar  with  the                                                                    
     public's  frustration over  the  protracted efforts  to                                                                    
     override  the  Governor's  vetoes of  public  education                                                                    
     funding.  This summer,  Data for  Progress conducted  a                                                                    
     poll of  Alaskans that showed  strong support  for this                                                                    
     amendment.                                                                                                                 
     The   three-quarters   requirement   also   creates   a                                                                    
     difficult     double-standard    for     revenue    and                                                                    
     appropriations  legislation  to  pass the  Governor.  A                                                                    
     typical  policy  bill,  although  it  might  contain  a                                                                    
     fiscal  note, requires  a 2/3  vote to  override if  it                                                                    
     receives  a  governor's  veto. If  that  override  vote                                                                    
     succeeds, the Governor may then  use his line-item veto                                                                    
     to remove  funding for the  bill from the  budget. That                                                                    
     line-item veto then  requires a ¾ vote to  pass. We saw                                                                    
     this  dynamic unfold  when  the  Governor vetoed  House                                                                    
     Bill 57  last May. The Legislature  overrode that veto.                                                                    
     And  then  the  Governor  vetoed the  HB  57  education                                                                    
     funding  from  the  budget. Lowering  the  revenue  and                                                                    
     appropriations  requirement  to two-thirds  will  align                                                                    
     the  requirements   for  all  vetoed   legislation  and                                                                    
     eliminate this loophole.                                                                                                   
     In   crafting   our  constitution,   Alaska's   framers                                                                    
     established a strong governor  form of government. This                                                                    
     structure  is  evident  when   looking  at  the  three-                                                                    
     quarters  legislative  vote   requirement  to  override                                                                    
     fiscal legislation. When Alaska  was a young state, the                                                                    
     idea of a strong governor  made sense. Today, we are no                                                                    
     longer  a  young  state, our  economy  has  grown,  and                                                                    
     public  participation  in  the  political  process  has                                                                    
     increased.  This amendment  returns more  power to  all                                                                    
     Alaskans   and   their  elected   representatives   and                                                                    
     senators.                                                                                                                  
     If two-thirds of the House  and Senate both approve SJR
     2, it  will appear on  the general election  ballot for                                                                    
     voters in November.  It is not subject  to a governor's                                                                    
     veto.                                                                                                                      
3:35:52 PM                                                                                                                    
CARLY DENNIS, Staff, Senator Matt Claman, Alaska State                                                                          
Legislature, Juneau, Alaska, provided the sectional analysis for                                                                
SJR 2.                                                                                                                          
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
     Section 1                                                                                                              
     The Constitution  of the State  of Alaska.  Article II,                                                                    
     Section 16.  Deletes the three-fourth  vote requirement                                                                    
     for the legislature to override  vetoes for revenue and                                                                    
     appropriation   bills  or   items.  Changes   the  vote                                                                    
     requirement for the legislature  to override vetoes for                                                                    
     revenue  and appropriation  bills  or items  to a  two-                                                                    
     third vote.                                                                                                                
     Section 2                                                                                                              
     The Constitution of the State  of Alaska. Conforms with                                                                    
     Article XIII, Section 1 of  the Alaska Constitution and                                                                    
     the state  election laws to put  the amendment proposed                                                                    
     by  this resolution  before  registered  voters in  the                                                                    
     State of Alaska at the next general election.                                                                              
3:36:20 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI asked what election would SJR 2 first apply to if                                                                
passed.                                                                                                                         
3:36:28 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN  replied it  would apply to  the November  6, 2026                                                               
election.                                                                                                                       
3:36:32 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI stated that is the general election.                                                                             
3:36:52 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI announced invited testimony on SJR 2.                                                                            
3:37:58 PM                                                                                                                    
LAURA   CAPELLE,   President,  NEA-Alaska,   Fairbanks,   Alaska,                                                               
testified  by invitation  on SJR  2. She  argued that  the three-                                                               
quarters vote  required to override  a gubernatorial  budget veto                                                               
is  unreasonably  high,  weakens  representative  democracy,  and                                                               
gives  excessive power  to the  executive branch.  This threshold                                                               
has  caused repeated  instability  in  Alaska's public  education                                                               
system,  creating  ongoing   uncertainty  for  school  districts,                                                               
educators,  families,  and  students.  She pointed  to  years  of                                                               
"budgetary whiplash,"  including the  unprecedented 2025  veto of                                                               
the  Base Student  Allocation,  which nearly  resulted  in a  $51                                                               
million  shortfall and  was reversed  only  by an  extraordinary,                                                               
narrow override vote. She said SJR  2 is presented as a necessary                                                               
correction to  align the override  threshold with  the two-thirds                                                               
standard  used  for  other  legislation,  restore  balance  among                                                               
branches of government, and provide  stable, reliable funding for                                                               
public  education.  She  suggested  stronger  safeguards  in  the                                                               
budget process  to protect education and  other essential funding                                                               
from questionable  gubernatorial vetoes and to  preserve Alaska's                                                               
quality of life.                                                                                                                
3:43:33 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI  noted that the  veto occurred in late  August. He                                                               
asked how the  school boards adjusted their plans  given that the                                                               
budget cycle usually takes place in March or April.                                                                             
3:43:56 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  CAPELLE replied  that the  decision depended  on the  school                                                               
board. She  said the school  boards were forced to  guess whether                                                               
the governor would veto the budget  and by how much, leading some                                                               
districts  to  preemptively  cut  positions  and  issue  layoffs,                                                               
creating wide-ranging uncertainty across districts.                                                                             
3:45:02 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI opened public testimony on SJR 2.                                                                                
3:45:32 PM                                                                                                                    
CAROLINE STORM,  representing self, Anchorage,  Alaska, testified                                                               
in  support of  SJR  2.  She noted  that  Alaska's high  override                                                               
threshold limits  representative democracy, and  emphasized that,                                                               
despite  Alaska having  a strong  state constitution,  this issue                                                               
reduces its effectiveness.                                                                                                      
3:46:52 PM                                                                                                                    
THERESA NANGLE  OBERMEYER, representing self,  Anchorage, Alaska,                                                               
testified in support  of SJR 2. She sought  verification that her                                                               
written testimony was received.                                                                                                 
CHAIR KAWASAKI replied that the committee received her letters.                                                                 
3:51:59 PM                                                                                                                    
THERESE LEWANDOWSKI, representing  self, Homer, Alaska, testified                                                               
in support  of SJR 2. She  stated her belief that  the resolution                                                               
should  go to  voters as  a constitutional  amendment. She  noted                                                               
widespread concern about excessive executive power.                                                                             
3:52:59 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI closed public testimony on SJR 2.                                                                                
3:53:23 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI held SJR 2 in committee.                                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SJR002A.pdf SSTA 1/20/2026 3:30:00 PM
SJR 2
SJR 2 Sectional Analysis Version A 2025.12.16.pdf SSTA 1/20/2026 3:30:00 PM
SJR 2
SJR 2 Sponsor Statement version A 2025.1.19.pdf SSTA 1/20/2026 3:30:00 PM
SJR 2
SJR 2 Supporting Document - 50 State graphic 2025.12.16.pdf SSTA 1/20/2026 3:30:00 PM
SJR 2
SJR 2 Supporting Document - Data for Progress Polling 2025.7.31.pdf SSTA 1/20/2026 3:30:00 PM
SJR 2
SJR 2 Supporting Document - NCSL Table on Veto Threshholds 2025.08.04.pdf SSTA 1/20/2026 3:30:00 PM
SJR 2
SJR 2 Supporting Document - Research Brief 15.382 2015.04.10.pdf SSTA 1/20/2026 3:30:00 PM
SJR 2
SJR 2 Supporting Document - Votes needed for a Constitutional Amendment 2025.10.22.pdf SSTA 1/20/2026 3:30:00 PM
SJR 2
SJR 13 fiscal note 1.22.26.pdf SSTA 1/20/2026 3:30:00 PM
SJR 13
SJR2-LEG-SESS- 01-20-2026.pdf SSTA 1/20/2026 3:30:00 PM
SJR 2
Support Ltr SJR 13.pdf SSTA 1/20/2026 3:30:00 PM
SJR 13
SJR2 Claman 23 instead of 34 Budget 1-20-26_Redacted.pdf SSTA 1/20/2026 3:30:00 PM
SJR 2
Support SJR-2.pdf SSTA 1/20/2026 3:30:00 PM
SJR 2 Support
Oppose SJR 2.pdf SSTA 1/20/2026 3:30:00 PM
SJR 2
Written Testimony - Resolution 13..pdf SSTA 1/20/2026 3:30:00 PM
SJR 13
SJR13 Governor Dunleavy One Nomine AK Jud Council 1-20-26_Redacted.pdf SSTA 1/20/2026 3:30:00 PM
SJR 13
Support SJR-2.pdf SSTA 1/20/2026 3:30:00 PM
Support SJR 2