Legislature(2001 - 2002)

02/04/2002 01:31 PM Senate HES

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             SCR 21-TREATMENT FOR DISTURBED CHILDREN                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. JERRY BURNETT, staff to Senator Lyda Green, explained that                                                                  
SCR  21  was  introduced  because  there  are  over  300  severely                                                              
emotionally   disturbed  Alaskan   children  currently   receiving                                                              
treatment in residential facilities in other states.  He stated,                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Families   are    separated,   sometimes    for   years.                                                                   
     Flexibility to  provide an appropriate mix  of treatment                                                                   
     between  residential and  community based  care is  lost                                                                   
     when children  must be sent out-of-state  for treatment.                                                                   
     Millions  of  state dollars  and  hundreds  of jobs  are                                                                   
     being exported from Alaska.   Alaska currently lacks the                                                                   
     necessary  facilities to provide  the full continuum  of                                                                   
     community based  and residential care in Alaska  for the                                                                   
     treatment  of severely  emotionally disturbed  children.                                                                   
     The  largest  gap  in  this continuum  is  the  lack  of                                                                   
     residential   treatment  beds   that  can  provide   the                                                                   
     necessary level of care.  SCR  21 asks the Department of                                                                   
     Health  and  Social Services  to  work with  the  Alaska                                                                   
     Mental  Health Board,  the  Alaska Mental  Health  Trust                                                                   
     Authority,  and other interested  parties to  strengthen                                                                   
     this continuum  of services and to establish  a priority                                                                   
     for the  development of sufficient in-state  residential                                                                   
     care to  serve emotionally disturbed children  who would                                                                   
     otherwise be placed in out-of-state facilities.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRWOMAN  GREEN  noted  that  legislators   have  received  many                                                              
comments over  the years from  concerned family members  who spend                                                              
time  trying   to  figure   out  how   to  manage  long   distance                                                              
relationships  with   their  children  in  residential   treatment                                                              
facilities.   The committee hopes  to address that  by encouraging                                                              
continued care in Alaska.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. RUSS  WEBB, Deputy  Commissioner of  the Department  of Health                                                              
and  Social   Services  (DHSS),   said  that  DHSS,   health  care                                                              
providers,  and child advocates  agree it  is preferable  to serve                                                              
children in-state  as opposed  to out-of-state whenever  possible,                                                              
for a  variety of  reasons.  Over  the last  few years,  a growing                                                              
number  of children  have come  into  DHSS custody  and a  growing                                                              
number of children  are going out-of-state to receive  care.  DHSS                                                              
appreciates  the  legislature's   encouragement  to  address  this                                                              
issue.  DHSS  has been and will  continue to focus on  it and work                                                              
with the Alaska  Mental Health Board, health providers  and family                                                              
advocates.   DHSS  is entering  into a  broad-based initiative  to                                                              
look at  the full  continuum of  care, not  just residential  care                                                              
needs.  The  Division  of  Medical Assistance  will  soon  have  a                                                              
contract in place  to do a review of the children  in out-of-state                                                              
care to  determine why  they are  there and what  it will  take to                                                              
return them to Alaska. DHSS agrees  this is an important matter to                                                              
address and wants  legislators to know it is already  working hard                                                              
on it.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RICHARD RAINERY,  Executive  Director  of the  Alaska  Mental                                                              
Health Board, informed committee  members that the goals stated in                                                              
SCR 21  are goals  the Board has  had at the  top of  its priority                                                              
list.  The  Board has a process  in place to address  these issues                                                              
that brings  in stakeholders  from  across the  state.  While  the                                                              
Board believes  there is inadequate in-state  residential capacity                                                              
for children,  as  it looks  at the ideal  system  of care in  the                                                              
state, it  wants to  also focus  on the  additional pieces  of the                                                              
continuum of care.   It believes that community based  care is the                                                              
best option for  most children and, with adequate  services, could                                                              
avert a lot of residential placements.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRWOMAN GREEN said that bringing  those children back to Alaska                                                              
will make  any transition  easier and she  hopes that SCR  21 does                                                              
nothing to  negate the  continuum of  care approach  as that  is a                                                              
well-established model.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. RAINERY agreed that returning  those children to Alaska is the                                                              
first step.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  LEMAN   asked  whether   any  information   is  available                                                              
describing how  many children  are severely emotionally  disturbed                                                              
for a  particular reason,  such as  fetal alcohol syndrome  (FAS).                                                              
He said he believes  many of the problems in Alaska  are caused by                                                              
bad behavior of parents.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RAINERY said  he receives  quarterly reports  from DHSS  that                                                              
contain the diagnoses of children placed out-of-state.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LEMAN asked for a one-page summary of those numbers.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRWOMAN GREEN took public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. KATHY  CRONEN, North Star  Behavioral Health Care  System CEO,                                                              
said  out-of-state  placement  creates  significant  problems  for                                                              
children and the state because:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
   · It provides less than optimal clinical care because of a                                                                   
     lack of involvement by families and support systems;                                                                       
   · It creates difficulties with discharge planning for ongoing                                                                
     care, which diminishes chances for long term success;                                                                      
   · Alaskan jobs are lost to treatment centers outside of the                                                                  
     state - bringing those children back to Alaska will bring a                                                                
     minimum of 450 new jobs;                                                                                                   
   · Youth stay at North Star longer than necessary while                                                                       
     awaiting long term placement, which is much more costly -                                                                  
     the cost of acute care hospitalization for mental health                                                                   
     patients ranges from $560 per day to $1500 per day.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CRONEN  said  the  solution  is  to  build  more  residential                                                              
treatment beds  in the  state.  North  Star has  land on  which to                                                              
build a treatment center in the Mat-Su  Borough, creating both in-                                                              
state treatment  and new  jobs for  Alaskans.   It is critical  to                                                              
bring Alaskan children home and expand the continuum of care.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:45 p.m.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CAREY  EDNEY,  Director  of Clinic  Services  at  North  Star                                                              
Hospital,  informed members  she oversees  discharge planning  and                                                              
placement  of  all patients.    She has  a  lot of  experience  in                                                              
inpatient  services   over  the  years,  and  is   concerned  that                                                              
inpatient utilization has increased  over the last two years.  She                                                              
stated support for SCR 21 and to  provide a wide range of services                                                              
for  children   to  hopefully  reduce   the  number   of  repeated                                                              
admissions  for inpatient  and residential  stays.  She  estimates                                                              
about 15 to  20 percent of the  youth at her clinic are  ready for                                                              
and could  be placed  at a residential  treatment facility  if one                                                              
was available in the state.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. JAMES MURPHY, owner/director  of the Good Samaritan Counseling                                                              
Centers, stated strong support for  SCR 21.  Because Alaska has no                                                              
residential treatment  facilities, many  patients end up  in acute                                                              
care  facilities  when  they would  receive  better  treatment  in                                                              
residential  treatment.  Sending  children and  teenagers  out-of-                                                              
state disrupts family life and treatment.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  DAVE  SPERBECK,   a  forensic  psychologist,   mental  health                                                              
director  for  the Department  of  Corrections  and chair  of  the                                                              
Psychologists'  Licensing   Board,  told  the  committee   he  has                                                              
considerable experience  dealing with very disturbed  children who                                                              
grow up  to become disturbed  adults that  require high  levels of                                                              
institutional and  sometimes incarceration  care.  He  stated that                                                              
Senator Leman's  comments about the  extent to which  children are                                                              
conditioned  to   require  intensive  psychiatric   treatment  are                                                              
accurate.   Children   rarely   are   born   requiring   inpatient                                                              
psychiatric  treatment  and  often  are  abused  or  neglected  by                                                              
families who require  treatment with the child.   It is impossible                                                              
to make a family  healthy when members are separated  by distance.                                                              
It is crucial to bring these children  back to Alaska because they                                                              
will reunite  with their  families.   He stated  full support  for                                                              
more in-patient residential treatment services in Alaska.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:54 p.m.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. DOV  RAPPAPORT, a medical doctor,  stated support for  SCR 21.                                                              
He  suggested creating  a  formal  body made  up  of providers  to                                                              
provide an adequate continuum of  care and benefit Alaskans and so                                                              
that providers can share information.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WILFRED  CASSELL,   previous  head  of  the   childrens'  and                                                              
adolescents' psychiatric ward at  the Alaska Psychiatric Institute                                                              
and current  president of  medical staff  at North Star  Hospital,                                                              
said it is obvious that to uproot  a person from a rural community                                                              
to Anchorage for  psychiatric treatment is a  traumatic experience                                                              
but Anchorage  staff is  able to  handle it  well because  of good                                                              
communication with  rural caregivers. That problem  is exacerbated                                                              
when rural  patients are transferred  out-of-state because  of the                                                              
cultural gap. He likened it to moving  the Aleuts during World War                                                              
II.   He   said   that  many   patients   have   ongoing   medical                                                              
complications. A break in the continuity  of medical providers can                                                              
be detrimental.  Regarding the issue  of discharge  and follow-up,                                                              
it is  much easier for  physicians in  Alaska to communicate  with                                                              
the  mental health  providers in  the community.  He told  members                                                              
that North Star  is experimenting with telemedicine  and other new                                                              
techniques to improve services.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TONY  LOMBARDO,  Director of  Advocacy  for  Convenant  House                                                              
Alaska, said he is testifying on  behalf of the Alaska Association                                                              
of Homes  for Children  (AAHC).  The  AAHC strongly advocates  for                                                              
community based  services in which  the family can  participate in                                                              
the treatment  of their children  and support the call  to develop                                                              
sufficient instate  residential care facilities to  meet the needs                                                              
of Alaska's children.  He stated  appreciation for acknowledgement                                                              
in  SCR  21  that  residential  treatment   beds  are  a  critical                                                              
component  in  a  continuum  of   care  for  severely  emotionally                                                              
disturbed  children.    He  strongly   advocates  for  an  instate                                                              
residential facility to lower the recidivism rate for children.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRWOMAN  GREEN   noted  that   a  constituent  recommended   an                                                              
amendment that makes the following changes.                                                                                     
Page 1,  line 15  would read:  "involvement of  a child's  family,                                                              
     members of the child's support system and involved community                                                               
     providers"                                                                                                                 
Page 1, line  16 would read:  "and leading to better  outcomes and                                                              
     long-term success and improved client satisfaction; and                                                                    
Page 2,  line 3 would  read: achieved  when a child  is discharged                                                              
     from an in-state residential treatment facility, focusing on                                                               
     transition and a variety of local, community-based services                                                                
     in the child's home of origin; and                                                                                         
Page 2,  line 9 would read:  interested parties to  strengthen the                                                              
     full continuum of residential and community-based care to                                                                  
     work in a coordinated, cooperative, collaborative and                                                                      
     partnering manner towards integration of services.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRWOMAN GREEN explained the purpose  of the amendment is not to                                                              
undo or  undermine anything  that is already  in place.   That new                                                              
language would  be added  to reinforce  to community members  that                                                              
they will continue to be involved.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  LEMAN  moved  to  adopt  Amendment 1.    There  being  no                                                              
objection, the motion carried.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  LEMAN  said the  sponsor  statement  refers to  over  300                                                              
severely  emotionally disturbed  children  while information  from                                                              
the Division of Family and Youth  Services refers to 423 children.                                                              
He asked for clarification.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER  WEBB  explained that  423 is an  unduplicated                                                              
count of  children who  received care  in out-of-state  facilities                                                              
during  FY  01 that  were  funded  by Medicaid.    The  300 is  an                                                              
approximate number  who may be receiving  care at any  given point                                                              
in  time.   He  noted  the number  of  children who  are  in-state                                                              
custody and  in out-of-state  care at any  given point in  time is                                                              
about 50.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WARD asked if Medicaid pays for travel.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER WEBB said it does.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WARD asked  if the travel costs were included  in the base                                                              
figure.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRWOMAN GREEN thought it was included in the total amount.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WARD asked if someone must escort the patient.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER WEBB said yes.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DAVIS asked  what DHSS's  timeline  is to  bring some  of                                                              
these children back to Alaska.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:08 p.m.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER WEBB said that  private facilities are already                                                              
under  development  and the  Division  of Medical  Assistance  has                                                              
already entered into a contract to  look at the needs and the full                                                              
continuum of  care.   He said the  Division will  have to  look at                                                              
what  impediments exist  as to  the  development to  the kinds  of                                                              
resources  we  need  in  the  state,  such  as  capital  costs  or                                                              
regulatory issues.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRWOMAN  GREEN  asked if  DHSS  is  looking at  constructing  a                                                              
facility.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER WEBB  said DHSS  does not  plan to build  any                                                              
facilities; it  buys care from  private non-profit  and for-profit                                                              
agencies.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DAVIS  asked  for  ongoing  reports  from  DHSS  on  this                                                              
project.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WARD  asked if  the 300 children  who are in  out-of-state                                                              
facilities are in similar types of facilities.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER WEBB said the  commonality of those facilities                                                              
is the level or type of care being provided.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRWOMAN  GREEN   said  it  is   her  intention  to   move  this                                                              
legislation out of committee today.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LEMAN moved  CSSCR 21(TRA) from committee  with individual                                                              
recommendations.  There being no objection, the motion carried.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                

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