Legislature(2023 - 2024)SENATE FINANCE 532

03/13/2024 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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+ SB 243 ALASKA ENERGY AUTHORITY GOVERNANCE TELECONFERENCED
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SENATE BILL NO. 243                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to the board of directors of the                                                                          
     Alaska Energy Authority."                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:06:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson relayed  that it was the first  hearing of SB
243.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:07:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR CATHY GIESSEL, SPONSOR,  relayed that the bill would                                                                    
create  a separate  board for  the  Alaska Energy  Authority                                                                    
(AEA). She stated  that AEA had a greater  number of complex                                                                    
issues  than previously  administered, and  managed a  great                                                                    
deal of  money. The  bill would  place two  commissioners on                                                                    
the  board,  the  commissioner of  Department  of  Commerce,                                                                    
Community   and   Economic   Development   (CED)   and   the                                                                    
commissioner of the Department of Revenue (DOR).                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Giessel  continued  that  each of  the  six  public                                                                    
members would  have three-year terms.  The bill  was amended                                                                    
in  the Senate  Resources Committee,  which she  thought had                                                                    
stipulated that  board members would have  tiered terms with                                                                    
members rotating out.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Olson  asked   why  the   boards  were   combined                                                                    
initially.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Giessel  thought the AEA director  could best answer                                                                    
the question.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Merrick asked if there was a difference between the                                                                     
bill and the associated executive order offered by the                                                                          
governor.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Giessel answered affirmatively.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:10:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANGELA RODELL, STAFF,  SENATOR GIESSEL, spoke to a                                                                              
Sectional Analysis for the CSSB 243 (RES) (copy on file):                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     The Committee Substitute adopts the following changes:                                                                     
     1. Section 4, page 3, lines 2-5:                                                                                           
          a. Adds  language to state  the AIDEA  board would                                                                    
          no longer be the board  of AEA as of the effective                                                                    
          date and  to provide  specific terms  to specified                                                                    
          qualified board members.                                                                                              
          b.  Removes  the   transition  that  required  the                                                                    
          Governor  to appoint  two  public  members of  the                                                                    
          initial                                                                                                               
          Alaska  Energy  Authority  board of  directors  to                                                                    
          one-year  terms, two  public  members to  two-year                                                                    
          terms, and two public  members to three-year terms                                                                    
          and added language requiring:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
          (b) the  member appointed  to fulfill the  role of                                                                    
          expertise or  experience in managing  or operating                                                                    
          an   electric   utility   not  connected   to   an                                                                    
          interconnected transmission system  and one of the                                                                    
          two  members  appointed  to fulfill  the  role  of                                                                    
          expertise   or  experience   in  finance,   energy                                                                    
          policy,   engineering,  law,   or  economics   are                                                                    
          appointed  to an  initial  7-month term,  expiring                                                                    
          March 1, 2025                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
          (c) the  member appointed  to fulfill the  role of                                                                    
          expertise  or  experience   in  developing  energy                                                                    
          projects in  rural communities  and the  second of                                                                    
          the two  members appointed to fulfill  the role of                                                                    
          expertise   or  experience   in  finance,   energy                                                                    
          policy,   engineering,  law,   or  economics   are                                                                    
          appointed  to an  initial 19-month  term, expiring                                                                    
          March 1, 2026.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
          (d) the  member appointed  to fulfill the  role of                                                                    
          expertise or  experience in managing  or operating                                                                    
          an    electric    utility    connected    to    an                                                                    
          interconnected transmission system  and the member                                                                    
          appointed  to   fulfill  the  role   of  financial                                                                    
          expertise    in    large-scale   energy    project                                                                    
          development are  appointed to an  initial 31-month                                                                    
          term, expiring March 1, 2027.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     2. Section 5, page 3, line 21 to include an effective                                                                      
     date of July 1, 2024.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:14:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Stedman  referenced   page  2,   line  4,   which                                                                    
referenced the  interconnected electric  energy transmission                                                                    
network, and asked for that definition.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Rodell  explained  that  the  language  referenced  the                                                                    
intertie  that   ran  from   the  Kenai   Peninsula  through                                                                    
Anchorage and through Fairbanks.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman assumed  that the  intertie would  exclude                                                                    
the   interconnection  between   Ketchikan,  Wrangell,   and                                                                    
Petersburg.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rodell  relayed that  the language  had been  taken from                                                                    
the executive order.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Giessel pointed  out that the definition  on page 1,                                                                    
line 10, could include communities in Southeast Alaska.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Olson asked  if  all the  board  members would  be                                                                    
voting members and asked about the eventuality of a tie.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Rodell  explained  that an  affirmative  vote  of  five                                                                    
members was a requirement for any action.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bishop referenced  voting rights  and asked  if the                                                                    
designee  for  a  commissioner's office  would  have  voting                                                                    
authority.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rodell affirmed that a  commissioner designee would have                                                                    
voting authority.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:18:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CURTIS THAYER, EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR, ALASKA ENERGY AUTHORITY,                                                                    
discussed  a presentation  entitled  "SENATE  BILL 243:  AEA                                                                    
GOVERNANCE" (copy on file). He  showed slide 2, "About AEA,"                                                                    
and  highlighted   that  AEA  had  six   board  members.  He                                                                    
discussed  rural  energy  elements such  as,  and  mentioned                                                                    
travel  to rural  parts  of the  state  where AEA  conducted                                                                    
trainings. He mentioned grants and  loans offered by AEA and                                                                    
discussed the Renewable Energy Fund.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Thayer referenced slide 2, "AEA Active Projects and                                                                         
Services," which showed a map of the state depicting active                                                                     
projects and services.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Thayer reviewed slide 3, "The "Why"":                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     "As governor, I  find that it is in  the best interests                                                                    
     of efficient administration  to separate the membership                                                                    
     of  the  board  of   directors  of  the  Alaska  Energy                                                                    
     Authority  from   the  membership   of  the   board  of                                                                    
     directors  of  the  Alaska Industrial  Development  and                                                                    
     Export Authority."  Executive Order 128                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
           Historical: From 1976 until 1993, AEA was                                                                         
             governed by its own board of directors.                                                                            
           Distinct Purpose: The underlying purposes of                                                                      
             AIDEA and AEA are fundamentally different.                                                                         
           Unique Mission: Reduce the cost of energy in                                                                      
             Alaska, diversify  Alaska's  energy  portfolio,                                                                    
             and  increase   resiliency,  reliability,   and                                                                    
             redundancy   and our mission  is growing (owned                                                                    
             assets, energy data department).                                                                                   
           Exponential Growth: AEA's capital budget has                                                                      
             increased over 1,000% in the last four years.                                                                      
           Distinct Expertise: A distinctive set of skills                                                                   
             and   expertise   is   required   for   optimal                                                                    
             governance. It is common and  appropriate for a                                                                    
             single-purpose entity to have a governing board                                                                    
           made up of experts in the topic area.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:25:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Thayer discussed slide 5, "AEA's Exponential Growth":                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     .notdef AEA has received  and anticipates a substantial                                                                    
     increase in  federal funding from the Infrastructure                                                                       
     Investment  and Jobs  Act (IIJA)  and others,  over the                                                                    
     next several years.                                                                                                        
     .notdef Pipeline of federal funding:                                                                                       
     - $84  million awarded (Energy  Efficiency Conservation                                                                    
     Block Grant, Department of Defense Grant, State                                                                            
     Energy  Planning   Grant,  National   Electric  Vehicle                                                                    
     Infrastructure  grant,  and  Grid  Resilience  40101(d)                                                                    
     Grant)                                                                                                                     
     -   $573.5   million    conditionally   awarded   (Grid                                                                    
     Resilience   and    Innovation   Partnerships,   Energy                                                                    
     Efficiency                                                                                                                 
     Reconciliation  Loan Capitalization  Program, and  Home                                                                    
     Efficiency and Appliance Rebates)                                                                                          
     -   $104  million   competitive  applications   pending                                                                    
     decision (Solar for All, Wood Innovations Grant, and                                                                       
     Energy Future Grant, and High-Energy Cost Grant)                                                                           
     .notdef Availability of tax incentives for clean energy                                                                    
     projects  and direct  pay  reimbursement available  for                                                                    
     tax                                                                                                                        
     exempt entities for the first time.                                                                                        
     .notdef In addition to AEA's netbook value of $1.3 billion,                                                                
     several large projects are underway:                                                                                       
     -  $413  million  to build  an  undersea  High  Voltage                                                                    
     Direct Current from the Kenai Peninsula to Anchorage                                                                       
     -  $342  million for  the  Dixon  Diversion Project  to                                                                    
     increase the  annual energy production of  Bradley Lake                                                                    
     by 50  percent (Estimated  to offset 1.5  billion cubic                                                                    
     feet  of  natural  gas  per   year  in  Railbelt  power                                                                    
     generation)                                                                                                                
     -  $90  million   for  Railbelt  transmission  upgrades                                                                    
     (Sterling  Substation  and  Quartz  Creek  transmission                                                                    
     line)                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Thayer turned to slide 6, "AEA's Statutory Programs."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:30:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked for a brief synopsis of the AEA                                                                          
board 30 years previously.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Thayer detailed that the history of the AEA.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson asked for an idea of why the boards were                                                                         
initially combined. He                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Thayer  understood that  a former  Speaker of  the House                                                                    
had issues with the board at  the time and the AEA Executive                                                                    
Director, and  had made substantial  changes. He  noted that                                                                    
AEA  employees  were  actually   AIDEA  employees.  The  two                                                                    
corporations shared some services.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:32:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Olson  asked Mr.  Thayer  to  comment on  Co-Chair                                                                    
Stedman's  mention of  the  intertie  between Ketchikan  and                                                                    
Petersburg.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Thayer noted that the two interties were distinct.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  did not  have  a  concern about  Railbelt                                                                    
representation.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson asked how the municipalities were chosen.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Thayer referenced  information from  the Department  of                                                                    
Energy,  and noted  that AEA  had  helped with  some of  the                                                                    
applications. He  referenced Angoon  and a project  that had                                                                    
been  on the  books for  some time.  He noted  that AEA  was                                                                    
still  working  with  the  community   on  the  project.  He                                                                    
mentioned Kotzebue  had also received  some of  the funding.                                                                    
He agreed to provide a complete list of the communities.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:36:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson asked Mr. Thayer to address FN 1 from CED.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Thayer  relayed that  the fiscal  note was  derived from                                                                    
the board cost for travel.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson OPENED public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SB  243  was  heard  and   HELD  in  Committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 243 (RES) Sponsor Statement.pdf SFIN 3/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
SB 243
SB 243 (RES) Explanation of Changes.pdf SFIN 3/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
SB 243
SB 243 (RES) Sectional Analysis.pdf SFIN 3/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
SB 243
SB 243 2024.03.12 AEA Senate Bill 243 AEA Governance Presentation (Final).pdf SFIN 3/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
SB 243
SB 116 Sectional Analysis 04.17.23.pdf SFIN 3/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
SL&C 4/28/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 116
SB 116 Sponsor Statement 04.17.23.pdf SFIN 3/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
SL&C 4/28/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 116
SB 116 DOH MS 010924.pdf SFIN 3/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
SB 116
SB 116 DOH MAA 010924.pdf SFIN 3/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
SB 116
SB 116 DOH BHA 020524.pdf SFIN 3/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
SB 116
SB 116 Presentation 03-13-24.pdf SFIN 3/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
SB 116
SB 116 Letters of Support (batch of 10) 3-12-24.pdf SFIN 3/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
SB 116
SB 116 DCCED CBPL 011124.pdf SFIN 3/13/2024 9:00:00 AM
SB 116