Legislature(2023 - 2024)BUTROVICH 205

03/12/2024 03:30 PM Senate HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES

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           SB 240-SCHOOL DISTRICT MEDICAL ASSISTANCE                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:44:16 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON announced  the consideration of SENATE  BILL NO. 240                                                               
"An   Act   relating   to   medical   assistance   coverage   for                                                               
rehabilitative,  mandatory, and  optional  services furnished  or                                                               
paid for by a school district on behalf of certain children."                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:45:17 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON found there were no  questions for the sponsor of SB
240.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:45:27 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON solicited a motion.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:45:29 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  GIESSEL  moved to  adopt  Amendment  1, work  order  33-                                                               
GS2369\A.2, to SB 240:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                 33-GS2369\A.2                                                                  
                                                     Bergerud                                                                   
                                                       3/4/24                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                          AMENDMENT 1                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED IN THE SENATE                   BY SENATOR GIESSEL                                                                 
           TO:  SB 240                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 1, following "Act":                                                                                         
             Insert "allowing minors 16 years of age or                                                                       
     older  to  consent  to  behavioral  health  and  mental                                                                  
     health  services;   authorizing  school   personnel  to                                                                  
     recommend   a  behavioral   health  or   mental  health                                                                  
     professional to a child 16 years of age or older;"                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, following line 3:                                                                                                  
             Insert new bill sections to read:                                                                                  
    "* Section 1. AS 14.30.171 is amended by adding a new                                                                   
        subsection to read:                                                                                                     
             (c)  Notwithstanding (a) of this section,                                                                          
         school personnel  may recommend a behavioral health                                                                    
         professional  or  mental health  professional to  a                                                                    
         child  who is  16 years  of age  or older.  In this                                                                    
         subsection,                                                                                                            
                  (1)  "behavioral health professional" has                                                                     
         the meaning given in AS 14.30.174(b);                                                                                  
                  (2)  "mental health professional" has the                                                                     
         meaning given in AS 47.30.915.                                                                                         
     * Sec. 2. AS 14.30.174(a) is amended to read:                                                                            
             (a)  Notwithstanding AS 14.30.171(a)(3) and                                                                        
         (5),  a  behavioral or  mental health  professional                                                                    
         working  within  a  public  school system  may,  in                                                                    
         compliance    with   federal   education   law   or                                                                    
         applicable state law,                                                                                                  
                 (1)  recommend, but not require, a                                                                             
         psychiatric  or behavioral  health evaluation  of a                                                                    
         child; [AND]                                                                                                           
                 (2)      recommend,    but   not   require,                                                                    
         psychiatric,     psychological,    or    behavioral                                                                    
         treatment for a child; and                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                 (3)  obtain informed consent from and                                                                      
         provide  behavioral or mental health  services to a                                                                
         child who is 16 years of age or older.                                                                             
     * Sec. 3. AS 25.20.025(a) is amended to read:                                                                            
              (a)      Except   as   prohibited   under   AS                                                                    
         18.16.010(a)(3),                                                                                                       
                 (1)  a minor who is living apart from the                                                                      
         minor's  parents  or  legal  guardian  and  who  is                                                                    
         managing   the  minor's   own  financial   affairs,                                                                    
         regardless  of the source or extent  of income, may                                                                    
         give  consent for  medical and dental  services for                                                                    
         the minor;                                                                                                             
                 (2)  a minor may give consent for medical                                                                      
         and   dental  services  if  the   parent  or  legal                                                                    
         guardian  of the minor  cannot be contacted  or, if                                                                    
         contacted,  is  unwilling  either  to grant  or  to                                                                
         withhold  consent; however,  if [WHERE]  the parent                                                                
         or  legal  guardian cannot  be  contacted or,  when                                                                
         [IF] contacted,  is unwilling either to grant or to                                                                    
         withhold  consent,   the  provider  of  medical  or                                                                    
         dental services  shall counsel the minor keeping in                                                                    
         mind not  only the valid interests of the minor but                                                                    
         also the  valid interests of the parent or guardian                                                                    
         and  the family unit as best  the provider presumes                                                                    
         them;                                                                                                                  
                 (3)  a minor who is the parent of a child                                                                      
         may  give consent  to medical  and dental  services                                                                    
         for the minor or the child;                                                                                            
                 (4)  a minor may give consent for                                                                              
         diagnosis,  prevention, or treatment  of pregnancy,                                                                
         and   for  diagnosis  and  treatment   of  venereal                                                                    
         disease;                                                                                                               
                 (5)  a minor who is 16 years of age or                                                                     
         older  may   give  consent  to  receive  outpatient                                                                
         behavioral   or  mental  health  services   from  a                                                                
         behavioral  health  professional  or mental  health                                                                
         professional;  a behavioral health  professional or                                                                
         mental   health  professional  may   not  prescribe                                                                
         medication  to  a  minor receiving  services  under                                                                
         this  paragraph without the consent  of the minor's                                                                
         parent   or   guardian;   during  the   course   of                                                                
         treatment,  the behavioral  health professional  or                                                                
         mental   health  professional  shall   contact  the                                                                
         minor's  parents and  offer to provide  services to                                                                
         the   family,  unless  there  are   clear  clinical                                                                
         indications  that doing so would be  harmful to the                                                                
         minor   receiving  services,  in  which   case  the                                                                
         behavioral   health  provider   or  mental   health                                                                
         provider  shall  document  those  concerns  in  the                                                                
         counseling record; in this paragraph,                                                                              
                         (A)          "behavioral     health                                                                
               professional" has the meaning given in                                                                       
               AS 14.30.174(b);                                                                                             
                         (B)  "mental health professional"                                                                  
               has the meaning given in AS 47.30.915 [THE                                                                   
               PARENT OR GUARDIAN OF THE MINOR IS RELIEVED                                                                      
               OF ALL FINANCIAL OBLIGATION TO THE PROVIDER                                                                      
              OF THE SERVICE UNDER THIS SECTION].                                                                               
    * Sec. 4. AS 25.20.025 is amended by adding a new                                                                         
      subsection to read:                                                                                                       
              (d) The parent or guardian of a minor is                                                                          
         relieved of all financial obligation to the                                                                            
         provider of a service under this section."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 4:                                                                                                            
          Delete "Section 1"                                                                                                  
          Insert "Sec. 5"                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:45:33 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON objected for purposes of discussion.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:45:36 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GIESSEL introduced Amendment  1, which would allow minors                                                               
aged  16 or  older to  consent  to behavioral  and mental  health                                                               
services  and   permit  school   personnel  to   recommend  these                                                               
services.  She  explained that,  in  her  experience as  a  nurse                                                               
practitioner   in  school-based   clinics,  many   students  face                                                               
significant  mental   health  challenges,  such   as  depression,                                                               
anxiety,  and  suicidal  thoughts,  but  parental  consent  often                                                               
prevents  them  from  accessing  help.  She  shared  reasons  why                                                               
parents  or guardians  do not  reply or  offer consent  for their                                                               
child to receive care when the  child has expressed a desire. She                                                               
stressed the  importance of increasing  access to care  for these                                                               
students by lowering  the age of consent to 16  and noted that 33                                                               
states have already implemented similar policies.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:48:41 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR   GIESSEL  cited   widespread  agreement   from  multiple                                                               
organizations she  has spoken with  over the past two  years. She                                                               
referenced reports from  the U.S. Surgeon General  and the Alaska                                                               
Department  of Health,  highlighting  the  prevalence of  adverse                                                               
childhood  experiences  (ACEs)  such   as  parental  divorce  and                                                               
financial hardship,  which are common  among Alaska's  youth. She                                                               
shared  personal  stories  from  her work,  where  students  face                                                               
significant challenges  at home and  are often left in  charge of                                                               
siblings,  leading to  anxiety and  depression.  She argued  that                                                               
lowering the age of consent  to 16 for behavioral health services                                                               
would allow  earlier intervention.  While 33 states  have lowered                                                               
the age of consent  to 16, three have lowered the  age to 12. She                                                               
also  clarified that  while  Section 3  allows  minors to  access                                                               
therapy,  it restricts  the  prescription  of medication  without                                                               
parental  consent  and  encourages   family  involvement  in  the                                                               
treatment process.                                                                                                              
4:54:07 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GIESSEL  said commonly,  it is  family issues  that cause                                                               
the  behavioral  health  issues  that  young  people  experience.                                                               
Therefore,  family  therapy  is  critical  to  treating  a  young                                                               
person.  Services are  offered  to the  family  unless there  are                                                               
clear clinical indications that doing  so would be harmful to the                                                               
minor  receiving services,  in which  case the  behavioral health                                                               
provider or  mental health provider shall  document the concerns.                                                               
She  offered Amendment  1 to  increase access  to care  for young                                                               
people, particularly through school  sites, which are well-suited                                                               
for reaching students. She said  schools are safe spaces for many                                                               
kids  and   ideal  locations  for  accessing   behavioral  health                                                               
services.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:55:39 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  WILSON asked  who is  responsible for  paying service  and                                                               
assessment costs.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:55:53 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  GIESSEL replied  that Section  4 of  Amendment 1  states                                                               
that  the parent  or  guardian  of a  minor  is  relieved of  all                                                               
financial  obligations to  the provider  of  services. She  noted                                                               
that many young  people she sees have private  insurance, but the                                                               
majority  are  Medicaid  beneficiaries,  and  Medicaid  would  be                                                               
billed for the services.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:56:26 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON asked whether insurance  companies would be relieved                                                               
of  financial obligations  or  if only  state  Medicaid would  be                                                               
responsible for paying medical providers.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:56:40 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  GIESSEL replied  that it  would  depend on  the type  of                                                               
insurance the  young person has,  but Amendment 1 allows  them to                                                               
consent to services.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:56:50 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  WILSON noted  that a  similar amendment  had already  been                                                               
addressed in HB  40 [HB 60], which is currently  in Senate Rules.                                                               
He  acknowledged  that  SB  240  does a  good  job  of  providing                                                               
educational  services and  increasing  school-based services  but                                                               
expressed concerns  about parental  consent. He pointed  out that                                                               
in  cases  where  clear clinical  indicators  suggest  a  child's                                                               
parent should  not be notified,  there are usually  deeper issues                                                               
that care  takers and mandated  reporters would address  with the                                                               
proper authorities. He shared his  concern that SB 240 may linger                                                               
in Rules, like HB 40 [HB  60]. He wondered if the department held                                                               
a  position on  the matter  and suggested  moving forward  with a                                                               
vote.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:58:00 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DUNBAR opined  that the  amendment seems  different from                                                               
the  one offered  last year,  noting that  it appears  to include                                                               
compromise  language   addressing  concerns  from   the  original                                                               
version. He asked if this observation was correct.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:58:26 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GIESSEL  said it was  correct that this amendment  is not                                                               
the same as  the previous, broader amendment.  She explained that                                                               
Amendment 1 is limited to  behavioral and mental health services,                                                               
defines  the age,  and specifically  outlines who  the healthcare                                                               
providers are.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:58:51 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR  expressed support for Amendment  1, acknowledging                                                               
the  chair's concerns  about  SB 240  potentially  being held  in                                                               
Rules. He  stated his belief  that if SB  240 were held  in rules                                                               
Amendment 1  would not be the  reason. He emphasized that  SB 240                                                               
should still  have strong support  with the amendment  and looked                                                               
forward to voting for the overall bill on the floor.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:59:24 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KAUFMAN said  supporting  information  included a  table                                                               
showing the  ages of students  in other states. He  asked whether                                                               
there  was  anecdotal  or  aggregate data  on  how  other  states                                                               
managed  financial  responsibility  when   a  minor  incurred  an                                                               
obligation that might be borne by the parent or another entity.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:59:53 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GIESSEL replied she did not have that information.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:00:05 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR TOBIN  stated her support,  noting a 14  percent increase                                                               
in  houseless  and  homeless  youth   over  the  past  year.  She                                                               
emphasized  that  educators  often  identify  issues  with  young                                                               
people   but    may   sometimes   suspend   or    give   negative                                                               
recommendations when wraparound services  are needed instead. She                                                               
said family support  services are crucial and  that the amendment                                                               
addresses  the  core  issues  faced by  many  young  people.  She                                                               
concluded that  Amendment 1 would give  educators the opportunity                                                               
to  recommend behavioral  and mental  health support  to students                                                               
who need interventions but are unaware of available resources.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:01:03 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  WILSON asked  whether  the department  had  a position  on                                                               
Amendment 1.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:01:13 PM                                                                                                                    
LEAH VAN  KIRK, Healthcare Policy Advisor,  Department of Health,                                                               
Juneau,  Alaska,  stated  the   department  is  still  evaluating                                                               
Amendment 1 and has not taken a position.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:01:24 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  WILSON asked  whether the  amendment would  have a  fiscal                                                               
note attached.  He referred to  the statement  regarding children                                                               
on Medicaid, noting  that they make up approximately  half of the                                                               
population of children  under 18 in the state.  He mentioned that                                                               
the state  is responsible  for paying  for these  services unless                                                               
parental involvement  leads to the  use of private  insurance. He                                                               
inquired   if    there   were   associated   costs    with   this                                                               
responsibility.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
5:01:56 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. VAN KIRK  replied that the department would  need to evaluate                                                               
the information more closely before responding to the committee.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:02:06 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON expressed concern about  the financial strain placed                                                               
on local  behavioral health  care providers  who operate  on thin                                                               
margins  and  may  not continue  offering  free  assessments  for                                                               
children  due  to  costs.  He  acknowledged  the  possibility  of                                                               
charities covering the costs but  remained uncertain. His concern                                                               
stems from  the underlying aspect  of SB 240, which  reminded him                                                               
of another bill that  was held in Rules for a  year. He said that                                                               
despite his concern he was willing to vote on SB 240.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:02:43 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  GIESSEL   stated  that   the  avoided  cost   should  be                                                               
considered  more  than the  immediate  cost.  She emphasized  the                                                               
importance of  avoiding costs related to  suicide, drug addiction                                                               
in emerging adults, and incarceration.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:03:09 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON found  the objection was maintained and  asked for a                                                               
roll call vote.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
A roll call  vote was taken. Senators Giessel,  Dunbar, and Tobin                                                               
voted in  favor of  Amendment 1 (A.2)  and Senators  Kaufman, and                                                               
Wilson voted against it. The vote was 3:2.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:03:30 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON announced that Amendment 1 (A.2) was adopted on a                                                                  
vote of 3 yeas and 2 nays.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:03:33 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON asked if the department had any closing comments.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:03:38 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. VAN KIRK thanked the committee for considering SB 240.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON asked if there was a date the department would have                                                                
a completed analysis on SB 240, as amended.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. VAN KIRK stated the department would follow up with a date.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
5:04:01 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON held SB 240, as amended, in committee.                                                                             

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 240 Amdmt A.2 Giessel.pdf SHSS 3/12/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 240
SB 240 50 states age of consent.pdf SHSS 3/12/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 240
SB 240 Providence LOS.pdf SHSS 3/12/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 240
SB 240 AHHA Letter of Support.pdf SHSS 3/12/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 240
SB 240 Support AKBH.pdf SHSS 3/12/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 240
SCR 9 Version A.pdf SHSS 3/12/2024 3:30:00 PM
SCR 9
SCR 9 Sponsor Statement - 2.27.2024.pdf SHSS 3/12/2024 3:30:00 PM
SCR 9
SCR 9 Supporting Document - Parity Presentation.pdf SHSS 3/12/2024 3:30:00 PM
SCR 9
SCR9 FN -EG-SESS-03-11-24.pdf SHSS 3/12/2024 3:30:00 PM
SCR 9
SB 27 Version A 02.17.2024.pdf SHSS 3/12/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 27
SB 27 Sponsor Statement 4.30.2023.pdf SHSS 3/12/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 27
SB 27 Sectional Analysis 4.30.2023.pdf SHSS 3/12/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 27
SB 27 FN DCCED Ins Ops.pdf SHSS 3/12/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 27
SB 27 FN DOH Medicaid Services.pdf SHSS 3/12/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 27
SB 27 FN DOA Health Plan Admin.pdf SHSS 3/12/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 27
SB 27 Research - AJIC Report 03.08.2024.pdf SHSS 3/12/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 27
SB 27 Research Guttmacher Alaska Statistics 2016 4.30.2023.pdf SHSS 3/12/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 27
SB 27 Research Guttmacher Beyond Birth Control 4.30.2023.pdf SHSS 3/12/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 27
SB 27 Research HRSA Women's Preventive Services Guidelines 4.30.2023.pdf SHSS 3/12/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 27
SB 27 Research Insurance Coverage of Contraceptives 4.30.2023.pdf SHSS 3/12/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 27
SB 27 Letters of Support 3.11.24.pdf SHSS 3/12/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 27
SB 27 Testimony - Ingrid Johnson 03.11.2024.pdf SHSS 3/12/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 27
SB 27 Testimony - Dr. Robin Holmes 03.12.2024.pdf SHSS 3/12/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 27
SB 27 Testimony - Planned Parenthood Alliance Advocates 03.12.2024.pdf SHSS 3/12/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 27
SB 27 letter of support - Alaska Advanced Practice RN Alliance 3-11-24- HSS.pdf SHSS 3/12/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 27
SB 240 Amendment No. 1 (A.2) adopted 3.12.24.pdf SHSS 3/12/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 240
SB 240 - Share of children with Medicaid coverage in Alaska's unified school districts 2017-2021 (Georgetown Univ Health Policy Inst.).pdf SHSS 3/12/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 240
SB 240 Amendment No. 1 (A.2) adopted 3.12.24.pdf SHSS 3/12/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 240