Legislature(2023 - 2024)BARNES 124

05/01/2024 03:15 PM House LABOR & COMMERCE

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05:06:17 PM Start
05:07:02 PM Confirmation Hearing(s):|| Regulatory Commission of Alaska|| Occupational Safety and Health Review Board|| Alaska State Board of Public Accountancy|| State Board of Registration for Architects, Engineers, and Land Surveyors|| Board of Barbers and Hairdressers|| Alaska Labor Relations Agency|| Board of Certified Real Estate Appraisers|| Workers' Compensation Appeals Commission|| Alaska Workers' Compensation Board|| Board of Pharmacy
05:21:58 PM HB360
05:44:47 PM SB239
05:57:50 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
-- Delayed to 10 Minutes Following Session --
+ Consideration of Governor’s Appointees: TELECONFERENCED
Regulatory Commission of Alaska - John Espindola;
Occupational Safety and Health Review Board -
Ryan Sharratt; Alaska State Board of Public
Accountancy - Mark Diehl, Lance Johnson; State
Board of Registration for Architects, Engineers,
and Land Surveyors - Paul Baril, John Barry,
Jeffrey Garness, Colin Maynard, Bradford Rinckey;
Board of Barbers and Hairdressers - Tenaya
Miramontes, Wendy Palin; Alaska Labor Relations
Agency - Tammy Schultz, Justin Mack, Emily
Jackson-Hall, Jennifer Yuhas; Board of Certified
Real Estate Appraisers - Jenny Buswell, Mae
Sprague; Workers' Compensation Appeals Commission
- Nancy Shaw, Amy Steele; Alaska Workers'
Compensation Board - Mark Sayampanathan, Pamela
Cline, John Corbett, Bronson Frye, Debbie White,
Steven Heidemann, Brian Zematis;
Board of Pharmacy - Carla Herbert
*+ HB 360 HOME CARE EMPLOYMENT STANDARDS ADV BOARD TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 360(L&C) Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+ SB 239 AIDEA WORKFORCE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
*+ HJR 27 SUPPORTING CERTAIN US TRADE POLICIES TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled but Not Heard
<Bill Hearing Canceled>
           SB 239-AIDEA WORKFORCE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:44:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SUMNER announced that the  final order of business would be                                                               
SENATE BILL  NO. 239, "An  Act relating to the  Alaska Industrial                                                               
Development  and  Export  Authority; and  relating  to  workforce                                                               
housing development projects."                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:45:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JAMES  HOLZENBERG, Staff,  Senator Forrest  Dunbar, Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  on behalf  of Senator  Dunbar, prime  sponsor, read                                                               
the sponsor statement for SB  239 [included in committee packet],                                                               
which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska is  experiencing a  housing crisis.  Our state's                                                                    
     housing stock  is overcrowded, dilapidated,  and energy                                                                    
     inefficient. There  has been an  ongoing, unprecedented                                                                    
     exodus of working-age people  that has severely limited                                                                    
     our  economy's recovery  after  the COVID-19  pandemic.                                                                    
     Alaska needs to use every  tool at its disposal to help                                                                    
     grow  our  workforce and  give  our  most talented  and                                                                    
     experienced people  a reason  to stay in-state  to work                                                                    
     and raise  a family. The Alaska  Industrial Development                                                                    
     and Export  Authority happens to be  well-positioned to                                                                    
     use  their loan  program  to fund  the construction  of                                                                    
     workforce  housing   to  help  alleviate   the  housing                                                                    
     crisis.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     SB  239  adds  a   new  objective  to  AIDEA's  mission                                                                    
     statement, allowing  the corporation to use  their loan                                                                    
     program for  the construction of new  workforce housing                                                                    
     facilities containing five or  more dwelling units. The                                                                    
     legislation  adds a  definition of  "workforce housing"                                                                    
     based   on  the   Department  of   Housing  and   Urban                                                                    
     Development's  working   definition,  which  calculates                                                                    
     affordability based on the average  median income of an                                                                    
     area.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     SB 239  is a concrete step  we can take to  address our                                                                    
     housing   shortage.   With  Alaska   facing   workforce                                                                    
     development  challenges and  recruitment and  retention                                                                    
     issues  across every  sector, we  can no  longer afford                                                                    
     inaction on this issue. I  urge your support for SB 239                                                                    
     so  we  can begin  developing  new  housing options  to                                                                    
     incentivize people to stay and  work in Alaska, in line                                                                    
     with AIDEA's mission.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:47:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS  offered his understanding that  the Alaska                                                               
Industrial Development  and Export  Authority (AIDEA)  is allowed                                                               
to make housing.  Asked what the difference is.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
5:48:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARK DAVIS,  Special Counsel,  Alaska Industrial  Development and                                                               
Export Authority,  Department of  Commerce, Community  & Economic                                                               
Development  (DCCED), answered  that  AIDEA  can give  commercial                                                               
real estate,  which should  encompass apartments;  however, there                                                               
is no express statement to that  effect in statute.  The proposed                                                               
bill would  be useful to  AIDEA because it would  provide "direct                                                               
legal authorization for this type of activity."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
5:49:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX  asked someone to elaborate  why AIDEA, which                                                               
is involved  in industry,  is involved,  when the  Alaska Housing                                                               
Finance Corporation (AHFC) addresses housing.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  DAVIS  explained  that  while  AHFC  focuses  on  low-income                                                               
housing  and  Section  8  HUD  housing and  what  AIDEA  does  is                                                               
industrial, AIDEA also does commercial  real estate.  In response                                                               
to a follow-up  question, he said AIDEA does  not compete against                                                               
banks; institutions must  bring in the loan while  AIDEA makes up                                                               
the rest of the loan.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:52:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS  highlighted the  struggle to  find housing                                                               
at Greens Creek.  He  relayed the definition of workforce housing                                                               
in Section  5 and expressed  concern that it  would significantly                                                               
constrain workforce  housing. He asked whether  Alaska Industrial                                                               
Development and  Export Authority  or the  bill sponsor  would be                                                               
open to changing  the definition to include  anything beyond low-                                                               
income housing.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
5:54:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRANDON   BREFCZYNSKI,   Deputy   Director,   Alaska   Industrial                                                               
Development  and Export  Authority, said  more flexibility  would                                                               
expand AIDEA's ability to take advantage of this authority.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
5:54:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX  shared his  understanding that  AHFC already                                                               
has a loan program for residential housing.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. DAVIS  confirmed that  AHFC offers  mortgages for  first time                                                               
home  buyers;   however,  the  bill   is  focused   on  workforce                                                               
development housing where  workers have too high of  an income to                                                               
qualify for  federal programs,  but not  enough income  to afford                                                               
housing.   These housing projects  are designed to fill  the gap,                                                               
he said.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX asked whether  a federal program is available                                                               
for workforce development housing specifically.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. DAVIS  said he  is unaware  of a  federal program  that would                                                               
cover  this, but  several  states have  programs  that use  these                                                               
federal guidelines as qualifications  to work with their economic                                                               
development  authority, like  AIDEA,  to work  on private  sector                                                               
solutions for this type of housing.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
5:57:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SUMNER announced that SB 239 would be held over.                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Ryan Sharratt Occupational Safety Resume_Redacted.pdf HL&C 5/1/2024 3:15:00 PM
Tammy Schultz ALRA App_Redacted.pdf HL&C 5/1/2024 3:15:00 PM
John Espindola RCA Resume_Redacted.pdf HL&C 5/1/2024 3:15:00 PM
Mark Sayampanathan Workers' Comp App_Redacted.pdf HL&C 5/1/2024 3:15:00 PM
5.11.23 Emily Jackson-Hall ALRA App_Redacted.pdf HL&C 5/1/2024 3:15:00 PM
5.11.23 Emily Jackson-Hall ALRA Resume_Redacted.pdf HL&C 5/1/2024 3:15:00 PM
HB360 Letter of Support Edna Beebe.pdf HL&C 5/1/2024 3:15:00 PM
HB 360
HB360 Support Letter Shawn Lyle's Letter.pdf HL&C 5/1/2024 3:15:00 PM
HB 360
HB360 - Letter of Support Amy Backas.pdf HL&C 5/1/2024 3:15:00 PM
HB 360
HB360 Sectional Analysis 03.28.24.pdf HL&C 5/1/2024 3:15:00 PM
HB 360
HB0360A.pdf HL&C 5/1/2024 3:15:00 PM
HB 360
HB360 Support Document ACoA SeniorSnapshot_Feb2021.pdf HL&C 5/1/2024 3:15:00 PM
HB 360
HB360 Sponsor Statement 03.28.24.pdf HL&C 5/1/2024 3:15:00 PM
HB 360
HB 360 Fiscal Note DOH-SDSA.pdf HL&C 5/1/2024 3:15:00 PM
HB 360
HB 360 Fiscal Note DOH-RR.pdf HL&C 5/1/2024 3:15:00 PM
HB 360
HB 360 Fiscal Note DOH-MS.pdf HL&C 5/1/2024 3:15:00 PM
HB 360