Legislature(2023 - 2024)BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)

03/15/2024 01:30 PM Senate LABOR & COMMERCE

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+= SB 44 NATUROPATHS: LICENSING; PRACTICE TELECONFERENCED
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*+ SB 225 OCCUPATIONAL LICENSING FEES TELECONFERENCED
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        SB 237-TAX CREDIT CHILD CARE/UTILITY/HOUSE/FOOD                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:00:16 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN announced  the consideration  of SENATE  BILL NO.                                                               
237,  "An Act  establishing  a corporate  income  tax credit  for                                                               
certain  expenditures  on  child care  services,  utility  rates,                                                               
residential  housing, and  food  security  and availability;  and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:00:41 PM                                                                                                                    
FADIL  LIMANI,   Deputy  Commissioner,  Department   of  Revenue,                                                               
Juneau,   Alaska,   introduced   SB   237  on   behalf   of   the                                                               
administration  and  explained  that  this  legislation  is  also                                                               
called  the Alaska  Affordability Act  (AAA). He  emphasized that                                                               
this is  a top  priority for  the Governor,  who wants  to ensure                                                               
families  continue  to call  Alaska  home  while attracting  more                                                               
people and families to the state.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:01:37 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. LIMANI advanced to slide 2 of the SB 237 Bill Overview:                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
     SB 237 Bill Overview                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     This proposed legislation focuses on four key areas:                                                                       
        • Childcare                                                                                                             
        • Housing                                                                                                               
        • Energy                                                                                                                
        • Food Security                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     The idea behind  this legislation is that  it creates a                                                                    
     tax  incentive  for   Corporations  and  businesses  to                                                                    
     offset  their   corporate  income  tax   liability  for                                                                    
     qualified expenditures in those key areas.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
      The Department of Revenue will define the qualified                                                                       
     expenditures through regulations.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Further, the tax credits are limited to 50 percent of                                                                      
      qualified expenditures and may not exceed 50 percent                                                                      
     of the Corporation's tax liability for any year.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. LIMANI pointed  out that the state does not  have broad based                                                               
taxes;  therefore, the  corporate income  tax is  one of  the few                                                               
levers   available   to   incentivize   businesses   to   develop                                                               
communities and provide economic development.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:02:40 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  LIMANI advanced  to slide  3, showing  FY 2023  general fund                                                               
(GF) revenue from  corporate income tax. He noted  that the total                                                               
is approximately $436 million and  pointed out that 70 percent of                                                               
this is  tied to  oil and  gas. He stated  that the  $436 million                                                               
does  not include  the $7.6  million that  is deposited  into the                                                               
Constitutional Budget Reserve Fund (CBRF).                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:03:14 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON referred  to the chart on slide  3 and asked                                                               
why tourism is a negative amount.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. LIMANI  answered that this is  due to the carryover  from the                                                               
Coronavirus Aid,  Relief, and Economic  Security Act  (CARES Act)                                                               
and deferred to Acting Deputy Director Mike Williams.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:03:43 PM                                                                                                                    
MICHAEL   WILLIAMS,  Acting   Deputy   Director,  Tax   Division,                                                               
Department of  Revenue, Anchorage,  Alaska, explained  that under                                                               
the federal  CARES Act, corporations  that had net  losses during                                                               
the years  of 2018, 2019, and  2020 were allowed -  under federal                                                               
statute -  to carry back  those losses for  up to five  years and                                                               
claim refunds. There was a process  for filing those claims - due                                                               
to the  timing of filing claims  and paying out refunds,  some of                                                               
this refund  process carried over  into FY 2023. The  roughly $18                                                               
million  in  negative  revenue  is  attributed  to  those  refund                                                               
claims.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:04:37 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. LIMANI advanced to slide 4:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SB 237  Estimated Revenue Impact                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     At this  time, we  don't have  clear visibility  on the                                                                    
     revenue impact  as we  can't predict  taxpayer behavior                                                                    
     and  how much  they  may contribute  to  each of  these                                                                    
     areas; however, we have run  an analysis and determined                                                                    
     the maximum  revenue impact to  the State  on Corporate                                                                    
     Income Tax  Revenue would range from  ($238) million in                                                                    
     FY25 to ($267) million in FY30.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LIMANI explained  that the  chart on  slide 4  looks at  the                                                               
maximum  impact on  both  non-petroleum  and petroleum  corporate                                                               
income tax  revenue for FY  2025 ($(87.5)  million non-petroleum,                                                               
$(150.1)  million petroleum)  through FY  2030 ($(126.3)  million                                                               
for non-petroleum, $(140.5) million petroleum).                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:05:39 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. LIMANI advanced to slide 5:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SB 237  Implementation Cost                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     The department will  need to make minor  changes to its                                                                    
     Tax Revenue  Management System (TRMS) and  tax forms to                                                                    
     implement  this   bill.  The  Tax  Division   will  use                                                                    
     existing resources  to absorb  the costs to  update tax                                                                    
     forms,  TRMS,  and other  miscellaneous  implementation                                                                    
     costs.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:06:21 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  WILLIAMS advanced  to slide  6 and  discussed the  sectional                                                               
analysis for SB 237:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SB 237  Sectional Analysis                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Section  1:  Adds  a new  section  at  43.20.022  which                                                                  
     creates a  new tax creditthe  Alaska  affordability tax                                                                    
     credit. The  amount of the  credit is up to  50 percent                                                                    
     of  a corporation's  tax liability.  The  credit is  50                                                                    
     percent  of   qualifying  expenditures   for  employer-                                                                    
     provided    childcare,    residential    heating    and                                                                    
     electricity  affordability, housing  affordability, and                                                                    
     food affordability. The  bill authorizes the department                                                                    
     to   adopt    regulations   that    define   qualifying                                                                    
     expenditures.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     A contribution  claimed as an Alaska  affordability tax                                                                    
     credit could not also be  the basis for a different tax                                                                    
     credit or be allowed as  a federal tax deduction, which                                                                    
     is the basis for  computing the Alaska corporate income                                                                    
     tax.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     The  credit is  nontransferable and  cannot be  carried                                                                    
     forward or backwards.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2: The credit takes effect January 1, 2025.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:07:43 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR presented  an example of a  large corporation that                                                               
used  the  tax  credit  to   set  up  a  childcare  facility  for                                                               
employees. They  offset overhead costs  using the tax  credit and                                                               
charge a  fee to  their employees (a  subsidized rate).  He asked                                                               
how  this  would  interact  with   the  tax  credit  and  if  the                                                               
corporation  would be  prohibited from  charging a  rate -  or if                                                               
there  would  be   any  restrictions  on  the   rate  charged  to                                                               
employees.   He   questioned   whether  the   corporation   could                                                               
potentially  make money  off of  the daycare  or if  it would  be                                                               
revenue neutral.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:09:07 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. WILLIAMS said that this is  a complex question, some of which                                                               
would require follow-up.  He explained that under  Section 129 of                                                               
the  Internal Revenue  Code  an employer  can  provide a  certain                                                               
amount  of  childcare  to  employees   before  it  is  considered                                                               
"compensation" to  the employee. Likewise, the  employee can make                                                               
elected, tax-free deferrals for  childcare after a certain amount                                                               
(typically  $5,000)   of  provided  childcare  for   employer  or                                                               
employee.  He   stated  that  anything   beyond  this   could  be                                                               
considered  compensation  to  the  employee. If  an  employer  is                                                               
charging  the  employee for  childcare,  up  to $5,000  could  be                                                               
excluded  but anything  beyond this  amount  would be  considered                                                               
taxable. He  stated that there is  no prohibition on how  much an                                                               
employer  can charge  an  employee for  the  daycare (other  than                                                               
market  factors). He  opined that  charging  above market  prices                                                               
would not benefit employee retention.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:10:48 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DUNBAR asked  -  if  the employer  is  free to  continue                                                               
charging for the daycare while taking  advantage of the tax - how                                                               
50 percent is the "right  number". He surmised that the intention                                                               
is to tip  the daycare into affordability and  questioned why not                                                               
use 20 or 30 percent.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS  stated that this would  be a policy call  and added                                                               
that  he does  not know  what would  incentivize corporations  to                                                               
provide this service.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:11:56 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. LIMANI  stated that childcare  is a critical need  across the                                                               
state, particularly  since emerging  from the  Covid-19 pandemic.                                                               
Parents returning to the workforce  are facing difficulty finding                                                               
affordable childcare  and often  choose to  stay home,  causing a                                                               
reduction in  the workforce in  some areas. He explained  that 50                                                               
percent  was  chosen  to  incentivize  corporations  and  provide                                                               
affordable childcare for employees.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:13:01 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR stated that, while  he understands this, over $200                                                               
million is  a lot. He pointed  out that the Governor  vetoed $7.5                                                               
million out  of Head Start,  which functions as daycare  for many                                                               
low-income families. SB 237 would  benefit middle-class and upper                                                               
middle-class families. He acknowledged  that childcare support is                                                               
needed  and suggested  that  adjusting the  fiscal  note to  $150                                                               
million  would  still  tip   childcare  into  affordability.  The                                                               
remaining  $50  million  could  be  used  to  expand  head  start                                                               
programs.  He opined  that, without  additional data,  50 percent                                                               
appears to be  an arbitrary number. He  requested additional data                                                               
utilizing  different  percentages   and  information  from  other                                                               
states that have implemented something similar.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:14:20 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. LIMANI  stated that from  that perspective -  and considering                                                               
the  education component,  where  there are  contributions -  the                                                               
maximum  contribution  is not  reached.  He  reiterated that  the                                                               
intention of SB 237 is to  make it worthwhile for corporations to                                                               
do offer  these services. He stated  that even at 50  percent, it                                                               
is  not known  whether businesses  would entertain  the necessary                                                               
infrastructure to  consider this. He  indicated that this  may be                                                               
even more  difficult to ascertain  for energy and  housing, which                                                               
are much more complex and costly than childcare.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:15:38 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN held SB 237 in committee.                                                                                        

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB225 ver A.PDF SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 225
SB225 Transmittal Letter.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 225
SB225 Sectional Analysis ver A.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 225
SB225 Fiscal Note-DCCED-CBPL 02.07.24.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 225
SB225 Letters of Support as of 03.12.24.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 225
SB225 Public Testimony-Letter-AHHA 02.28.24.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 225
SB225 Presentation for SLAC ver A.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 225
SB44 Fiscal Note-DCCED-CBPL-03.01.24.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 44
SB44 Public Testimony Batch#5 03.14.24.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 44
SB44 Public Testimony CA Bd of Naturopathic Medicine 03.14.24.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 44
SB44 Public Testimony FNMRA 03.13.24.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 44
SB44 Public Testimony-Email_Shawn Vainio_02.26.23.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 44
SB44 Public Testimony-Greg Montonaga 03.14.23.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 44
SB44 Public Testimony-Kristin Mitchell 03.20.23.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 44
SB44 Bios of Invited Testifiers SL&C 03.15.24.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 44
SB44 Presentation to SLAC 03.15.24.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 44
SB237 ver. A.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 4/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 237
SB237 Presentation to SLAC 03.15.24.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 4/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 237
SB237 Transmittal Letter 02.15.24.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 4/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 237
SB237 Sectional Analysis 02.20.24.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SL&C 4/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 237
SB237 Fiscal Note-DOR-TAX-02-14-24.pdf SL&C 3/15/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 237