Legislature(1997 - 1998)
03/31/1998 09:10 AM Senate FIN
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CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 223(RLS)
"An Act lowering the age requirement from 60 years to
55 years for purposes of senior housing programs;
relating to the senior housing revolving fund; relating
to bonds to fund senior housing loans; repealing
provisions establishing the senior housing bond account
of the Alaska Housing Finance Corporation; and
repealing a provision relating to the interest rate on
senior housing loans made by the Alaska Housing Finance
Corporation."
Co-Chair Sharp noted the committee had a Workdraft CS "P
Version" before them. He wanted his staff member to speak
to the CS. TOM WILLIAMS came to the table and testified as
followed.
"The principle changes to the bill - as you'll notice the
title has lengthened to be very specific as to what we are
doing and it is very descriptive of what is going on in the
bill. The principle changes in the bill were on page 3 in
lines 1-13. Basically, it added the language to say that
what was left in the Senior Housing Bond Account was to
include not only the amount of money appropriated to the
account but to the interest earned on that money was
appropriated to the account. As you may recall in previous
testimony there was an appropriation of $10 million to the
account and that the interest that had accrued on that over
the years had amounted to about $4.2 million. So that was
to remain in the account. Then on line 12 to make sure that
the intent on those monies were only to be used in
accordance with an appropriation of that money."
"In addition, on page 4 lines 7 and 8 the repealer of AS
18.56.790(d) - that repealer was delayed until June 30, 1999
as opposed to being repealed immediately. Simply because
there is that $14.2 million to be left in that account
subject to appropriation and giving the opportunity for that
money to be - for the Legislature to make a decision on how
to appropriate those funds. That would ultimately go away
on June 30, 1999."
"The changes made by the bill would still allow the senior
citizen revolving fund to receive and expend bond money and
to move ahead as the original intent of the bill."
Senator Adams referred to the issue of lowering the age
eligibility and asked if there was a need to bring the age
requirement down to 55. He wondered if there was not enough
clientele to spend the money for senior citizen housing. He
wanted to know if he would now qualify and would it be OK to
build a house in Palm Springs since he plans to retire
there. Mr. Williams deferred the questions to the sponsor
of the bill. He pointed out that the changes made in the
Workdraft did not affect the age requirements, only the
bonds account.
Senator Phillips moved for adoption of the CS, version "P".
Without objection, it was adopted.
The committee invited JOHN BITTNEY of the Alaska Housing
Finance Corporation to speak to the bill. His comments were
as follows.
"I'm not able to comment on the CS, I haven't seen it at
this point. My only comment, Mr. Chairman, at our last
meeting, there was a request before the AHFC's board to
declare the funds within the bond account as available for
appropriation by the Legislature or make them available to
the state's general fund. The board did consider that
request the same day as the meeting and passed a resolution
opposed to making those funds available to appropriation for
other capital projects or as a dividend. That's based upon
our needs assessment report and requests of the corporation
for some review of projects. Our indications are that we
are getting requests for projects for seniors that don't
qualify for low income housing that are either middle-
moderate or upper income and this is the program that's
intended for that use. It's their desire to see that these
funds are made available through the loan program for those
kinds of projects."
Senator Adams said that under the present statutes, the
intent was to take care of everybody up to 60 years old.
Was the intention to take care of everybody up to 55 because
there was adequate extra money for that, he asked. He
wanted to know if there had been a study to show a need for
those between the ages of 55 and 60. Mr. Bittney responded
that AHFC had done a study in 1996, which was focused on age
60 and over. He did have indications there was some need
for the younger age group and he gave widows as an example.
Mr. Bittney told the committee some of the senior housing
projects had problems filling up their units and came to
AHFC in hopes of opening up the requirements to recruit more
residents. The federal law threshold was age 55, and this
would align the state's requirements and allow the expansion
of the requirements and hopefully fill some of the vacant
units.
Senator Adams asked if the construction loan funds had to be
spent in Alaska. Mr. Bittney reaffirmed that.
Co-Chair Sharp inquired about the initial Legislative
appropriation of $10 million that was not spent. The
additional $4 million was interest that accumulated on the
balance, he asked. Mr. Bittney agreed and noted AHFC
separately accounted for that as noted in the new CS. Co-
Chair Sharp said the only thing the CS would add, would be
an assurance that the Legislature would be involved through
appropriation of the $14.2 million in the future. He spoke
further of the intention of getting the revolving and bond
funds up and running and to start dispersing funds.
He asked if the program would allow funding for middle and
low income seniors, or would the funding for low-income
senior house be part of the capital budget appropriations as
in the past. Mr. Bittney replied he would need to get some
input from his technical staff on the CS. He had concerns
because he didn't know to what extent the assets of that
account would be necessary to go out and bond. His
understanding was that the intent of the original $10
million was not only to have immediate funds on hand for
loans but to also have assets that could be pledged as
collateral in order to do a dept issuance. Normally what
they would do is have mortgage loans already in an account
and go out and do a debt issuance to recapitalize the funds
for new loans. This being a new program, there are no loans
to use as collateral, he explained.
In reference to the question on the capital projects, Mr.
Bittney continued telling the committee those were usually
just strait grants for a project. He called it the subsidy
piece of a project. Usually on those projects they didn't
pencil out as a full loan because of a desire to keep the
rents down. What the parties would then do, is apply to
AHFC for a grant for the difference of what could be
financed and paid for with an affordable rent and the
construction costs. The request for the grant would be made
first, and once secured, the party would then request the
loan for the remainder of the project costs. There were two
separate stages of the funding, he summarized.
Co-Chair Sharp held SB 223 in committee until the next
Senate Finance Committee meeting.
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