Legislature(2023 - 2024)BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)
02/12/2024 01:30 PM Senate LABOR & COMMERCE
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SB 197-RESIDENTIAL BUILDING CODE 1:47:41 PM CHAIR BJORKMAN reconvened the meeting and announced the consideration of SENATE BILL NO. 197, "An Act relating to residential building codes; relating to construction contractors and residential contractor endorsements; establishing the Alaska State Building Code Council; and providing for an effective date." 1:48:14 PM LAURA ACHEE, Staff, Senator Jesse Bjorkman, Alaska State Legislature, Juneau, Alaska, presented SB 197 on behalf of the sponsor. She read from the following statement: [Original punctuation provided.] When an Alaskan buys a new home or has a custom home built, they should have confidence that the home that they and their family are living in is safe. There are municipalities in Alaska that have municipal residential building codes, but for homes that are built outside of those communities, Senate Bill 197 would establish a statewide residential building code. The bill directs the Alaska Housing Finance Corporation to adopt by regulation the 2018 International Residential Building Code published by the International Code Council, with allowances for Alaska-specific amendments and adopting updated versions of the Code. The residential building code would not supersede municipal codes where they currently exist or are adopted in the future, and it would not interfere with any other state building codes or the statutory requirements for other contractors such as plumbers and electricians. 1:49:59 PM JEFF TWAIT, Owner, Cornerstone Custom Homes and Designs, Soldotna, Alaska, testified by invitation on SB 197. He said he is a member of the Kenai Peninsula Builders Association (KPBA) and the Alaska State Home Building Association (ASHBA). He has been working over the last decade with ASHBA to place a statewide residential building code. He explained that the backbone of SB 197 is to provide a minimum building standard in areas without building code jurisdiction. This will help level the playing field for licensed builders and provide protection for purchasers who may not be aware of potential building deficiencies. He compared a home to a human body - a set of systems that need to work together and make the house affordable, healthy, comfortable, and sustainable over time. He shared an example of the way various systems within a home need to work together to ensure safety and proper functioning. 1:53:00 PM MR. TWAIT explained that, currently, a contract between the builder and the purchaser is meant to ensure that minimum building standards are met; however, there is little to no recourse in the event that the builder does not hold to this agreement. He compared a declaration that a builder is "building to the code" to attaining a D- in school and added that this is not a high bar to attain. Therefore, creating a statewide building code should not be considered something that will add extra costs to building a house. Additionally, he shared his belief that codifying statewide building standards would lengthen the housing life cycle and create healthier markets and more efficient homes. He stated that housing affordability is a big concern and explained that while this might appear to raise housing costs, it will reduce total costs of the home over time by lowering the costs of utilities and maintenance, and an increased appreciation in value. He said that federal funds require the adoption of the energy code and building code. He opined that ASHBA experts are the right people to help create a statewide building code and suggested that AHFC oversight combined with recommendations made by volunteer industry experts would mean a minimal fiscal burden and large benefit. 1:54:55 PM SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON expressed concern that recreational cabins and owner-built homes are exempt. 1:55:33 PM MR. TWAIT expressed his agreement. He explained that recreational cabins are exempt primarily because some energy codes included in the updated building codes can be difficult to obtain in remote locations. He shared his personal agreement that owner-built homes should be included and expressed hope that they will be included at a later date. He offered his understanding that several legislators have districts with a low number of contract builders and a high number of owner-builders and suggested that this may be why this group was left out of SB 197. 1:56:54 PM SENATOR DUNBAR asked if the building code would only apply to structures of 1-4 units. 1:57:17 PM MR. TWAIT replied yes. He explained that when a building is a fourplex or larger, the international building code kicks in, which is under the jurisdiction of the State Fire Marshal. 1:57:41 PM SENATOR DUNBAR commented that there is interest in increasing housing construction and housing density in Alaskan cities. He expressed his understanding that the international building code restricts the construction of certain types of buildings with single stairwells. He asked for clarification that this does not apply to SB 197. 1:58:13 PM MR. TWAIT said that he is not familiar with this issue. 1:58:30 PM SENATOR DUNBAR shared his understanding that the US is one of the only countries in the world that forbids single stairwells in buildings with more than four units due to fire code concerns. He said that this has limited multi-family construction in certain places. He reiterated his understanding that SB 197 does not apply to this issue, because buildings with more than four units are under the purview of the Fire Marshal. He asked if this is correct. 1:58:55 PM MR. TWAIT replied yes. 1:59:35 PM CHAIR BJORKMAN provided his rationale for sponsoring SB 197. He explained his hope that, when Alaskans hire someone to build a home for them, they hire a contractor who is qualified and builds a home to a standard that is safe for them to live in. He stated that professionals are expected to have a certain level of training and expertise and to perform a certain level of care to a standard set by government licensing requirements. He explained that there have been several instances in his home community where builders have built unsafe homes. He added that, without a statewide building code to refer to as the minimum standard to which homes should be built, Alaskans have little recourse in these situations. He stated that SB 197 is a consumer protection bill and pointed out that it only applies to contractors who are licensed by the state as builders - it does not apply to someone who is building their own house. He shared his belief that someone who is building their own house can take their own risks; however, when a contractor advertises themselves as a professional who can build a safe house - and receives money in exchange for this service - a minimum standard should be in place. 2:01:50 PM CHAIR BJORKMAN opened public testimony on SB 197. 2:02:23 PM ERIC VISSER, representing self, Anchorage, Alaska, testified in support of SB 197. He said he is a past president for both the Alaska State Home Building Association (ASHBA) and Anchorage Home Builders Association (AHBA). He said that ASHBA has been working to create a statewide building code for the past 10-15 years. He stated that ASHBA has learned from previous legislation that was introduced and opined that SB 197 "strikes the right balance," adopting a building code that is already in place. He estimated that 99 percent of ASHBA members already build to the code requirements in SB 197. He stated that the Alaska Housing Finance Corporation adopts this code regularly - and most builders are familiar with this standard. He explained that adopting a statewide building code protects the consumer from outliers who do not build to this standard. 2:03:50 PM SENATOR DUNBAR inquired about the standard of Anchorage's building code. 2:04:17 PM MR. VISSER replied that the housing code has a lot of grey area, which is left up to the authority with jurisdiction. He explained that Anchorage does not have a good building official to make these determinations, and shared his belief that this drives up the cost of housing in Anchorage. 2:04:55 PM SENATOR DUNBAR asked if the current structure of Anchorage's building code would meet the standard set by SB 197. 2:05:09 PM MR. VISSER replied yes. 2:05:14 PM SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON thanked Mr. Visser for his testimony. 2:05:28 PM DAVID OWENS, representing self, Wasilla, Alaska, testified in support of SB 197. He said that he owns Owen's Inspection Services in Palmer, Alaska and has been a building inspector for almost 40 years. He shared his belief that SB 197 is well thought out and addresses concerns that need to be addressed. He shared his understanding that it applies to contractors with a residential endorsement, giving them a minimum standard to inspect to. He said that it gives inspectors a minimum level to inspect to and builders a minimum level to build to. In answer to an earlier question from Senator Dunbar, he explained that the amount of stairwells in a building depends on the amount of occupants in the building. The occupancy must be very low to have a single exit or stairwell. He said that this is why nationwide fire and building codes have this standard in place. 2:07:26 PM AARON WELTERLEN, representing self, Fairbanks, Alaska, testified in support of SB 197. He said he is a past president of the Interior Alaska Building Association (IABA) and the Alaska State Home Builders Association (ASHBA). He said that ASHBA has been working on a statewide building code for a long time as a form of consumer protection. He explained that Fairbanks has a small city building department and most structures are built outside of the city. He acknowledged that certain home financing organizations will require that homes pass inspection standards. However, SB 197 provides long-term protection for consumers. A statewide building code would provide a standardized building system so that consumers know they are protected. 2:09:47 PM CHAIR BJORKMAN closed public testimony and held SB 197 in committee.
Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
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SB183 ver A.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SB 183 |
SB183 Sponsor Statement verA.pdf |
SFIN 3/6/2024 9:00:00 AM SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SB 183 |
SB183 Sectional Analysis ver A.pdf |
SFIN 3/6/2024 9:00:00 AM SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SB 183 |
SB183 Fiscal Note-DOLWD-WC-02.09.24.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SB 183 |
SB183 Supporting Documents-AWCB_Resolution 23-01.pdf |
SFIN 3/6/2024 9:00:00 AM SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SB 183 |
SB183 Supporting Documents-Overview and History of WCBG Fund.pdf |
SFIN 3/6/2024 9:00:00 AM SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SB 183 |
SB183 Supporting Documents-AWCB Letter to Claimant.pdf |
SFIN 3/6/2024 9:00:00 AM SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SB 183 |
SB197 ver S.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SB 197 |
SB197 Sponsor Statement Ver S.pdf |
SFIN 3/6/2024 9:00:00 AM SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SB 197 |
SB197 Sectional Analysis Ver S.pdf |
SFIN 3/6/2024 9:00:00 AM SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SB 197 |
SB197 Fiscal Note-DCCED-CBPL-02.09.24.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SB 197 |
SB197 Supporting Documents-ADN Opinion 05.14.23.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SB 197 |
HB57 ver A.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 57 |
HB57 Sponsor Statement 1.25.2024.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 57 |
HB57 Sectional Analysis 1.25.2024.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 57 |
HB57 Fiscal Note-DOH-Em Programs-01.16.24.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 57 |
HB57 Supporting Documents-Dr. John Hall Email 02.06.23.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 57 |
HB57 Supporting Documents-Washington Statewide Registry-1.25.2024.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 57 |
HB57 Supporting Documents-Support Letters-Mio Rhein-Brian Webb-1.25.2024.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 57 |
HB57 Testimony-Received as of 03.03.2023.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 57 |
HB57 Testimony-Recieved as of 02.17.2023.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 57 |
HB57 Supporting Documents-ACEMS 02.24.23.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 57 |
HB57 Supporting Documents-California Evidence Code 1157.7 1.25.2024.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 57 |
HB57 Supporting Documents-Contra Costa EMS QIPP 12.19.19.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 57 |
SSCR4 ver A.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SSCR 4 |
SSCR4 Fiscal Note.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SSCR 4 |
SSCR6 ver A.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SSCR 6 |
SSCR6 Fiscal Note.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SSCR 6 |
SSCR7 ver A.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SSCR 7 |
SSCR7 Fiscal Note.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SSCR 7 |
EO127 Public Testimony-Letter from Board Chair 01.31.24.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
EO 127 |