Legislature(2023 - 2024)BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)
02/12/2024 01:30 PM Senate LABOR & COMMERCE
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| Start | |
| SSCR4|| EO 127 | |
| SSCR6|| EO 129 | |
| SSCR7|| EO 130 | |
| SB197 | |
| SB183 | |
| HB57 | |
| Adjourn |
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
| *+ | SSCR 4 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| *+ | SSCR 6 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| *+ | SSCR 7 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| *+ | SB 197 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| *+ | SB 183 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| *+ | HB 57 | TELECONFERENCED | |
SB 197-RESIDENTIAL BUILDING CODE
1:47:41 PM
CHAIR BJORKMAN reconvened the meeting and announced the
consideration of SENATE BILL NO. 197, "An Act relating to
residential building codes; relating to construction contractors
and residential contractor endorsements; establishing the Alaska
State Building Code Council; and providing for an effective
date."
1:48:14 PM
LAURA ACHEE, Staff, Senator Jesse Bjorkman, Alaska State
Legislature, Juneau, Alaska, presented SB 197 on behalf of the
sponsor. She read from the following statement:
[Original punctuation provided.]
When an Alaskan buys a new home or has a custom home
built, they should have confidence that the home that
they and their family are living in is safe.
There are municipalities in Alaska that have municipal
residential building codes, but for homes that are
built outside of those communities, Senate Bill 197
would establish a statewide residential building code.
The bill directs the Alaska Housing Finance
Corporation to adopt by regulation the 2018
International Residential Building Code published by
the International Code Council, with allowances for
Alaska-specific amendments and adopting updated
versions of the Code.
The residential building code would not supersede
municipal codes where they currently exist or are
adopted in the future, and it would not interfere with
any other state building codes or the statutory
requirements for other contractors such as plumbers
and electricians.
1:49:59 PM
JEFF TWAIT, Owner, Cornerstone Custom Homes and Designs,
Soldotna, Alaska, testified by invitation on SB 197. He said he
is a member of the Kenai Peninsula Builders Association (KPBA)
and the Alaska State Home Building Association (ASHBA). He has
been working over the last decade with ASHBA to place a
statewide residential building code. He explained that the
backbone of SB 197 is to provide a minimum building standard in
areas without building code jurisdiction. This will help level
the playing field for licensed builders and provide protection
for purchasers who may not be aware of potential building
deficiencies. He compared a home to a human body - a set of
systems that need to work together and make the house
affordable, healthy, comfortable, and sustainable over time. He
shared an example of the way various systems within a home need
to work together to ensure safety and proper functioning.
1:53:00 PM
MR. TWAIT explained that, currently, a contract between the
builder and the purchaser is meant to ensure that minimum
building standards are met; however, there is little to no
recourse in the event that the builder does not hold to this
agreement. He compared a declaration that a builder is "building
to the code" to attaining a D- in school and added that this is
not a high bar to attain. Therefore, creating a statewide
building code should not be considered something that will add
extra costs to building a house. Additionally, he shared his
belief that codifying statewide building standards would
lengthen the housing life cycle and create healthier markets and
more efficient homes. He stated that housing affordability is a
big concern and explained that while this might appear to raise
housing costs, it will reduce total costs of the home over time
by lowering the costs of utilities and maintenance, and an
increased appreciation in value. He said that federal funds
require the adoption of the energy code and building code. He
opined that ASHBA experts are the right people to help create a
statewide building code and suggested that AHFC oversight
combined with recommendations made by volunteer industry experts
would mean a minimal fiscal burden and large benefit.
1:54:55 PM
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON expressed concern that recreational cabins
and owner-built homes are exempt.
1:55:33 PM
MR. TWAIT expressed his agreement. He explained that
recreational cabins are exempt primarily because some energy
codes included in the updated building codes can be difficult to
obtain in remote locations. He shared his personal agreement
that owner-built homes should be included and expressed hope
that they will be included at a later date. He offered his
understanding that several legislators have districts with a low
number of contract builders and a high number of owner-builders
and suggested that this may be why this group was left out of SB
197.
1:56:54 PM
SENATOR DUNBAR asked if the building code would only apply to
structures of 1-4 units.
1:57:17 PM
MR. TWAIT replied yes. He explained that when a building is a
fourplex or larger, the international building code kicks in,
which is under the jurisdiction of the State Fire Marshal.
1:57:41 PM
SENATOR DUNBAR commented that there is interest in increasing
housing construction and housing density in Alaskan cities. He
expressed his understanding that the international building code
restricts the construction of certain types of buildings with
single stairwells. He asked for clarification that this does not
apply to SB 197.
1:58:13 PM
MR. TWAIT said that he is not familiar with this issue.
1:58:30 PM
SENATOR DUNBAR shared his understanding that the US is one of
the only countries in the world that forbids single stairwells
in buildings with more than four units due to fire code
concerns. He said that this has limited multi-family
construction in certain places. He reiterated his understanding
that SB 197 does not apply to this issue, because buildings with
more than four units are under the purview of the Fire Marshal.
He asked if this is correct.
1:58:55 PM
MR. TWAIT replied yes.
1:59:35 PM
CHAIR BJORKMAN provided his rationale for sponsoring SB 197. He
explained his hope that, when Alaskans hire someone to build a
home for them, they hire a contractor who is qualified and
builds a home to a standard that is safe for them to live in. He
stated that professionals are expected to have a certain level
of training and expertise and to perform a certain level of care
to a standard set by government licensing requirements. He
explained that there have been several instances in his home
community where builders have built unsafe homes. He added that,
without a statewide building code to refer to as the minimum
standard to which homes should be built, Alaskans have little
recourse in these situations. He stated that SB 197 is a
consumer protection bill and pointed out that it only applies to
contractors who are licensed by the state as builders - it does
not apply to someone who is building their own house. He shared
his belief that someone who is building their own house can take
their own risks; however, when a contractor advertises
themselves as a professional who can build a safe house - and
receives money in exchange for this service - a minimum standard
should be in place.
2:01:50 PM
CHAIR BJORKMAN opened public testimony on SB 197.
2:02:23 PM
ERIC VISSER, representing self, Anchorage, Alaska, testified in
support of SB 197. He said he is a past president for both the
Alaska State Home Building Association (ASHBA) and Anchorage
Home Builders Association (AHBA). He said that ASHBA has been
working to create a statewide building code for the past 10-15
years. He stated that ASHBA has learned from previous
legislation that was introduced and opined that SB 197 "strikes
the right balance," adopting a building code that is already in
place. He estimated that 99 percent of ASHBA members already
build to the code requirements in SB 197. He stated that the
Alaska Housing Finance Corporation adopts this code regularly -
and most builders are familiar with this standard. He explained
that adopting a statewide building code protects the consumer
from outliers who do not build to this standard.
2:03:50 PM
SENATOR DUNBAR inquired about the standard of Anchorage's
building code.
2:04:17 PM
MR. VISSER replied that the housing code has a lot of grey area,
which is left up to the authority with jurisdiction. He
explained that Anchorage does not have a good building official
to make these determinations, and shared his belief that this
drives up the cost of housing in Anchorage.
2:04:55 PM
SENATOR DUNBAR asked if the current structure of Anchorage's
building code would meet the standard set by SB 197.
2:05:09 PM
MR. VISSER replied yes.
2:05:14 PM
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON thanked Mr. Visser for his testimony.
2:05:28 PM
DAVID OWENS, representing self, Wasilla, Alaska, testified in
support of SB 197. He said that he owns Owen's Inspection
Services in Palmer, Alaska and has been a building inspector for
almost 40 years. He shared his belief that SB 197 is well
thought out and addresses concerns that need to be addressed. He
shared his understanding that it applies to contractors with a
residential endorsement, giving them a minimum standard to
inspect to. He said that it gives inspectors a minimum level to
inspect to and builders a minimum level to build to. In answer
to an earlier question from Senator Dunbar, he explained that
the amount of stairwells in a building depends on the amount of
occupants in the building. The occupancy must be very low to
have a single exit or stairwell. He said that this is why
nationwide fire and building codes have this standard in place.
2:07:26 PM
AARON WELTERLEN, representing self, Fairbanks, Alaska, testified
in support of SB 197. He said he is a past president of the
Interior Alaska Building Association (IABA) and the Alaska State
Home Builders Association (ASHBA). He said that ASHBA has been
working on a statewide building code for a long time as a form
of consumer protection. He explained that Fairbanks has a small
city building department and most structures are built outside
of the city. He acknowledged that certain home financing
organizations will require that homes pass inspection standards.
However, SB 197 provides long-term protection for consumers. A
statewide building code would provide a standardized building
system so that consumers know they are protected.
2:09:47 PM
CHAIR BJORKMAN closed public testimony and held SB 197 in
committee.
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| SB183 ver A.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SB 183 |
| SB183 Sponsor Statement verA.pdf |
SFIN 3/6/2024 9:00:00 AM SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SB 183 |
| SB183 Sectional Analysis ver A.pdf |
SFIN 3/6/2024 9:00:00 AM SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SB 183 |
| SB183 Fiscal Note-DOLWD-WC-02.09.24.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SB 183 |
| SB183 Supporting Documents-AWCB_Resolution 23-01.pdf |
SFIN 3/6/2024 9:00:00 AM SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SB 183 |
| SB183 Supporting Documents-Overview and History of WCBG Fund.pdf |
SFIN 3/6/2024 9:00:00 AM SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SB 183 |
| SB183 Supporting Documents-AWCB Letter to Claimant.pdf |
SFIN 3/6/2024 9:00:00 AM SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SB 183 |
| SB197 ver S.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SB 197 |
| SB197 Sponsor Statement Ver S.pdf |
SFIN 3/6/2024 9:00:00 AM SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SB 197 |
| SB197 Sectional Analysis Ver S.pdf |
SFIN 3/6/2024 9:00:00 AM SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SB 197 |
| SB197 Fiscal Note-DCCED-CBPL-02.09.24.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SB 197 |
| SB197 Supporting Documents-ADN Opinion 05.14.23.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SB 197 |
| HB57 ver A.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 57 |
| HB57 Sponsor Statement 1.25.2024.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 57 |
| HB57 Sectional Analysis 1.25.2024.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 57 |
| HB57 Fiscal Note-DOH-Em Programs-01.16.24.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 57 |
| HB57 Supporting Documents-Dr. John Hall Email 02.06.23.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 57 |
| HB57 Supporting Documents-Washington Statewide Registry-1.25.2024.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 57 |
| HB57 Supporting Documents-Support Letters-Mio Rhein-Brian Webb-1.25.2024.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 57 |
| HB57 Testimony-Received as of 03.03.2023.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 57 |
| HB57 Testimony-Recieved as of 02.17.2023.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 57 |
| HB57 Supporting Documents-ACEMS 02.24.23.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 57 |
| HB57 Supporting Documents-California Evidence Code 1157.7 1.25.2024.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 57 |
| HB57 Supporting Documents-Contra Costa EMS QIPP 12.19.19.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 57 |
| SSCR4 ver A.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SSCR 4 |
| SSCR4 Fiscal Note.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SSCR 4 |
| SSCR6 ver A.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SSCR 6 |
| SSCR6 Fiscal Note.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SSCR 6 |
| SSCR7 ver A.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SSCR 7 |
| SSCR7 Fiscal Note.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
SSCR 7 |
| EO127 Public Testimony-Letter from Board Chair 01.31.24.pdf |
SL&C 2/12/2024 1:30:00 PM |
EO 127 |