Legislature(2015 - 2016)BUTROVICH 205
03/15/2016 01:00 PM Senate SPECIAL CMTE ON ENERGY
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| Start | |
| SB192 | |
| SB193 | |
| Adjourn |
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| *+ | SB 192 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| *+ | SB 193 | TELECONFERENCED | |
SB 193-EXTEND EXEMPTION FOR SMALL POWER PLANTS
1:53:28 PM
CO-CHAIR MICCICHE announced the consideration of SB 193.
1:53:38 PM
JESSE LOGAN, Chief of Staff, Senator McGuire, Alaska State
Legislature, Juneau, Alaska, Provided an overview of SB 193 as
follows:
SB 193 seeks to extend the regulatory exemption for
power plants that utilize renewable resources under 65
megawatts. The original exemption "sunsetted" January
1 and we are looking to extend that to January 1,
2025.
The electrical demand of the relatively small and
dispersed population of Alaska is generally served by
regulated utilities. RCA is charged with clarifying
utilities, regulating rates, resolving disputes, and
protecting customers; however, Alaska has also seen an
increase in private sector investment in the
development of renewable energy systems across the
state and I think the last bill helps exemplify that.
Previously, Alaska has exempted small power producers
from regulations if they sell power on a wholesale
basis to regulated utilities who then distribute power
to local customers. The system of exemption lowers the
barrier cost of entry and reduces the regulatory
overreach and regulatory cost borne by the state and
it helps small-power producers that develop brand-new
financing for renewable systems. This exemption
expired on January 1. Regulation can increase the cost
of a project and pose barriers to investment, but also
increases the cost of government through the RCA.
SB 193 continues to put Alaska on the middle-ground
between a thoroughly deregulated market and a highly
regulated market that we have currently in Alaska for
most utilities. This arrangement maintains RCA
oversight on the Power Purchasing Agreements (PPA) and
thereby continues to provide a layer of protection for
rate payers.
One of the most valuable projects to come to fruition
from the previous exemption is CIRI's Fire Island Wind
Project just outside of Anchorage. The negotiated
offtake agreement and private-risk investment dollars
have now provided long-term flat priced renewable wind
power to Chugach Electric Association for the last 2
years and have another 22 years to go on their PPA.
This bill helps to maintain an open-door to Alaska's
electrical market and encourages private sector
investment in renewable energy and energy
infrastructure across the state in general, which
during this time of fiscal downturn is probably much
needed. It is the belief of the sponsor that it is
important to extend the sunset so that other
independent projects can also have regulatory
certainty and continue to develop Alaska's energy
potential and at no cost to the state.
CO-CHAIR BISHOP asked what fits under the definition of
renewable energy under SB 193.
MR. LOGAN answered that in statute there was a full list that
included: wind power, solar, geothermal, hydro-electric. He
assumed that heat-pump transfer would be listed, but he did not
know the entire list.
CO-CHAIR BISHOP asked if the federal government had decided that
hydropower was renewable.
MR. LOGAN revealed that U.S. Senator Murkowski was working on
the renewable listing for hydropower.
1:57:26 PM
DUFF MITCHELL, Executive Director, Alaska Independent Power
Producers Association (AIPPA), Juneau Hydropower, Inc., Juneau,
Alaska, detailed that AIPPA represents a wide range of
independent power producers that could be called non-utilities.
He set forth that SB 193 extends the exemption of small power
producers to the federal government's lower level and removes
some state-overreach in RCA regulations. He opined that
regulation was costly in terms of time, money, and project
delays if the exemption was not extended. He summarized that SB
193 allows independent power producers to continue the exemption
at the federal standard. He added that SB 193 would keep the
"open for business" sign and encourage private capital in
Alaska's renewable energy. He noted that SB 193 had no fiscal
impact to the state, avoided added work for the RCA, and
lessened the barrier for smaller independent power producers to
enter the market.
SENATOR EGAN asked Mr. Mitchell to address the Alaska Power
Association's claim that the 65 megawatt size restriction within
the exemption was too high.
MR. MITCHELL revealed that the federal size restriction was
actually 80 megawatts. He remarked that Alaska's 65 megawatt
size restriction was a unique case where the federal regulation
was less that the state's regulation. He summarized that SB 193
simply asks that the 65 megawatt restriction match the previous
bill.
CO-CHAIR MICCICHE opened public testimony.
2:00:49 PM
MIKE CRAFT, President/CEO, Delta Wind Farm, Delta Junction,
Alaska, stated that he supported the extension proposed in SB
193. He asserted that developing renewable energy projects was
difficult and adding the uncertainty in obtaining a certificate
of public convenience or getting permission of a utility or
anybody else in Alaska would be a barrier. He revealed that
being exempt allowed the Delta Wind Farm to bring $54 million
worth of development capital to the Delta Junction area in the
upcoming 2 years. He remarked that the federal exemption was 80
megawatts and the majority of renewable energy projects will be
well under 65 megawatts.
CO-CHAIR MICCICHE asked Commissioner Wilson from the RCA if SB
193 had any potential negative impacts to ratepayers in the long
run.
JAN WILSON, Commissioner, Regulatory Commission of Alaska (RCA),
Anchorage, Alaska, replied that RCA had no position on SB 193.
She added that a public meeting and vote by the commission would
be required for the RCA to take an official position on SB 193.
CO-CHAIR MICCICHE asked in what ways ratepayers might be
negatively affected by the bill's extension for small power
plants.
MS. WILSON answered that her personal position as a commissioner
was that ratepayers would not be affected. She asserted that her
personal position was not the position of the RCA.
CO-CHAIR MICCICHE asked her to confirm that the RCA could not
provide the committee with advice on key issues regarding SB
193.
MS. WILSON specified that the RCA would require an inquiry to
the RCA's chairman in order to have a public meeting for the
commission to discuss the bill and take a position.
CO-CHAIR MICCICHE asked Ms. Wilson to suggest a state agency
that might be more helpful to the committee.
MS. WILSON replied that the RCA has five commissioners with
differing opinions. She reiterated that the RCA has not
discussed SB 193 in order to provide a position. She stated that
the RCA would be happy to address SB 193 and get back to the
committee.
CO-CHAIR MICCICHE announced that SB 193 would be held in
committee.
He set forth that he personally supported both SB 192 and SB
193. He asserted that without projects that move the state
forward, the state begins to die. He addressed SB 192 and
recommended that testimony should also stress why the projects
are important rather than strictly focusing on jobs. He
specified that explaining why capital infrastructure was so
important was a good way to reach out and communicate with
Alaskans.
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| SB192 Version A.pdf |
SNRG 3/15/2016 1:00:00 PM |
SB 192 |
| SB 192 Sponsor Statement.pdf |
SNRG 3/15/2016 1:00:00 PM |
SB 192 |
| SB192 Fiscal Note-DCCED-AEA-3-11-16.pdf |
SNRG 3/15/2016 1:00:00 PM |
SB 192 |
| SB192 Fiscal Note-DCCED-AIDEA-3-11-16.pdf |
SNRG 3/15/2016 1:00:00 PM |
SB 192 |
| SB 192 and HB143 Letter of Support-Duff Mitchell-Juneau Hydropower-3-4-16.pdf |
SNRG 3/15/2016 1:00:00 PM |
HB 143 SB 192 |
| SB192 and HB143 Letters of Support Packet.pdf |
SNRG 3/15/2016 1:00:00 PM |
HB 143 SB 192 |
| SB192 and HB 143 Resolutions of Support CBJ, SEC, ANBC.pdf |
SNRG 3/15/2016 1:00:00 PM |
HB 143 SB 192 |
| SB192 and HB 143 Letter of Support- AIDEA Leonard 3-11-15.pdf |
SNRG 3/15/2016 1:00:00 PM SNRG 3/31/2016 3:30:00 PM |
HB 143 SB 192 |
| SB192 and HB 143 Letter of Support-AEA SFG 3-16-15.pdf |
SNRG 3/15/2016 1:00:00 PM SNRG 3/31/2016 3:30:00 PM |
HB 143 SB 192 |
| SB 192 Letter of Support- AIDEA JohnSpringsteen 3-11-16.pdf |
SNRG 3/15/2016 1:00:00 PM |
SB 192 |
| SB 192 Juneau Hydro Project Presentation 3-15-16.pdf |
SNRG 3/15/2016 1:00:00 PM |
SB 192 |
| SB 193 Version A.pdf |
SNRG 3/15/2016 1:00:00 PM |
SB 193 |
| SB193 Sponsor Statement.pdf |
SNRG 3/15/2016 1:00:00 PM SNRG 3/31/2016 3:30:00 PM |
SB 193 |
| SB 193 Fiscal Note-DCCED-RCA-3-11-16.pdf |
SNRG 3/15/2016 1:00:00 PM SNRG 3/31/2016 3:30:00 PM |
SB 193 |
| SB 193 SB277 Supporting Documents Letter CIRI Response to APA letter 3-19-10.pdf |
SNRG 3/15/2016 1:00:00 PM SNRG 3/31/2016 3:30:00 PM |
SB 193 SB 277 |
| SB 193 Supporting Document letter APA 2-29-16.pdf |
SNRG 3/15/2016 1:00:00 PM SNRG 3/31/2016 3:30:00 PM |
SB 193 |
| SB 193 Leg Research Report on Regulation Sb277 3-5-10.pdf |
SNRG 3/15/2016 1:00:00 PM SNRG 3/31/2016 3:30:00 PM |
SB 193 SB 277 |
| SB 193 Letter of Support- AIPPA 3-4-16.pdf |
SNRG 3/15/2016 1:00:00 PM SNRG 3/31/2016 3:30:00 PM |
SB 193 |
| SB 193 APT Letter of Support 3-11-16.pdf |
SNRG 3/15/2016 1:00:00 PM SNRG 3/31/2016 3:30:00 PM |
SB 193 |
| SB 193 Letter of Support- CIRI 3-4-16.pdf |
SNRG 3/15/2016 1:00:00 PM SNRG 3/31/2016 3:30:00 PM |
SB 193 |