Legislature(2023 - 2024)ADAMS 519

05/01/2024 09:00 AM House FINANCE

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09:02:25 AM Start
09:03:49 AM SB187
09:26:23 AM Adjourn
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CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 187(FIN) am                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act   making  appropriations,   including  capital                                                                    
     appropriations, supplemental  appropriations, and other                                                                    
     appropriations;    making   reappropriations;    making                                                                    
     appropriations    to    capitalize   funds;    amending                                                                    
     appropriations; and providing for an effective date."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:03:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon  asked his  staff to  review the  changes in                                                                    
the  proposed  CS.  There  had  been  a  number  of  initial                                                                    
hearings on the  capital budget but the goal  of the meeting                                                                    
would be  to explain how  the budget had developed  over the                                                                    
course  of the  past few  months. The  capital budget  was a                                                                    
document that strived  to balance a variety  of elements but                                                                    
there  was not  much time  left  in the  current session  to                                                                    
finalize the  budget. He relayed  that the House  had agreed                                                                    
to transmit the  budget to the Senate by May  9, 2024, which                                                                    
gave  members about  a  week  to complete  its  work on  the                                                                    
capital  budget. The  agreement between  the two  bodies was                                                                    
rigid and it  included set dollar amounts  focusing on life,                                                                    
health, safety,  energy, education, and housing.  He thought                                                                    
that the  budget closely  adhered to  the parameters  of the                                                                    
agreement   while   working   within   federal   and   state                                                                    
guidelines. He  would respond  to questions  to the  best of                                                                    
his ability, but there were  invited testifiers available to                                                                    
provide  more  detailed   information.  Once  the  amendment                                                                    
deadline was set,  his staff would send out an  email to all                                                                    
members' offices to provide more  information on the process                                                                    
of submitting capital budget amendments.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:07:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster MOVED to ADOPT  the committee substitute for                                                                    
CSSB  187(FIN), Work  Draft  33-GS2491\Y (Dunmire,  4/30/24)                                                                    
(copy on file).                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
There  being  NO  OBJECTION,   Work  Draft  33-GS2491\Y  was                                                                    
ADOPTED.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:07:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AMORY LELAKE,  STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE BRYCE  EDGMON, reviewed                                                                    
the changes in the CS. She  stated that no Senate items were                                                                    
removed,  with one  exception  by request  of  a senator  in                                                                    
order  to   change  a  district   project.  There   were  no                                                                    
governor's  items  removed  from  the  capital  budget.  The                                                                    
Senate funded a large portion  of its capital budget through                                                                    
FY  24, which  meant that  there were  some items  listed in                                                                    
Section 1 and Section 4 of  the bill. She advised members to                                                                    
not be  alarmed if a  statewide or district project  was not                                                                    
listed as fully funded. She  suggested that it was easier to                                                                    
look at  the total additions  for a complete picture  of the                                                                    
budget.  She  would  highlight  statewide  items  that  were                                                                    
represented in the bill. She  also referred the committee to                                                                    
three reports  prepared by the Legislative  Finance Division                                                                    
(LFD) for  additional clarity  which could  all be  found on                                                                    
the  LFD  website.  She  would   begin  with  the  statewide                                                                    
regional items added in the CS.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon invited Ms. LeLake to review the changes.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  LeLake  reiterated that  all  of  the changes  were  in                                                                    
Section 1 of the bill. She  began on page 3, lines 9 through                                                                    
11 of the bill. For  the Alaska Energy Authority (AEA) Round                                                                    
16  Renewable  Energy  Project   Grants,  the  House  funded                                                                    
$10,302,45  in addition  to the  Senate's $4  million for  a                                                                    
total of $14,302,45. The funding  would be in effect through                                                                    
project 8  of the  renewable energy projects.  She continued                                                                    
to  page 4,  line 7,  which detailed  funding for  grants to                                                                    
named recipients,  which included  House district  items and                                                                    
statewide regional items. The grants  began on page 4, lines                                                                    
16 through 18.  She indicated that there was  an addition of                                                                    
$2.83  million  for   the  Alaska  Addiction  Rehabilitation                                                                    
Services' Residential Expansion Project.  On page 5, lines 9                                                                    
and  10,  the  House  added  $500,000  in  addition  to  the                                                                    
Senate's $1.5 million  for the Blood Bank  of Alaska's Blood                                                                    
Donor Testing Laboratory project.  The project would also be                                                                    
included  in Section  4 as  a  Senate addition.  On page  5,                                                                    
lines  28  through  30,  the House  added  $670,000  to  the                                                                    
Senate's $750,000  for Iditarod upgrades,  improvements, and                                                                    
operational support  for the Iditarod Trail  Committee for a                                                                    
total of  $1.42 million.  On page  5, lines  31 and  32, the                                                                    
House added  $4,535,000 for natural gas  main extensions for                                                                    
the Interior Gas Utility. On page  7, lines 3 through 5, the                                                                    
House included $3.5 million  for the Southcentral Foundation                                                                    
for the purpose of  designing, constructing, and equipping a                                                                    
crisis center.  The list of  grants to  municipalities began                                                                    
on  page  7,  line  8,   and  included  House  district  and                                                                    
statewide regional  projects. On  page 8,  lines 32  and 33,                                                                    
the  House   added  $2.5  million  for   flood  and  erosion                                                                    
mitigation for the Mat-Su Borough  for susceptible roads. On                                                                    
page  9,  lines  4  and   5,  $2.5  million  was  added  for                                                                    
maintenance and enhancement of local fisheries for Mat-Su.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:12:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. LeLake  moved to  House additions  to the  Department of                                                                    
Education and Early Development (DEED)  on page 10, lines 17                                                                    
through  19.  The House  added  $26,570,936  for the  School                                                                    
Major  Maintenance Grant  Fund. Combined  with the  Senate's                                                                    
contribution of  $36,190,217, the total funding  amounted to                                                                    
$62,761,729 to fund  through project 26 on  the school major                                                                    
maintenance list.  The Senate's  addition could be  found in                                                                    
Section 4 of the bill.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. LeLake moved  to the funding amounts  for the Department                                                                    
of Revenue  (DOR). On page  15, lines  28 and 29,  the House                                                                    
added  $7.5  million  to  DOR for  the  replacement  of  the                                                                    
dividend application  information system. On page  16, lines                                                                    
4 and  5, the House added  $3 million to the  Alaska Housing                                                                    
Finance  Corporation  (AHFC)   weatherization  program.  The                                                                    
Senate contributed $7 million to  the program for a total of                                                                    
$10 million  for weatherization.  On page  16, lines  24 and                                                                    
25,  the  House  added  $1   million  to  the  AHFC  housing                                                                    
development program. Combined with  the Senate's $3 million,                                                                    
the total addition to the program was $4 million.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  LeLake  continued  to  the   funding  amounts  for  the                                                                    
University of Alaska (UA). On  page 31, lines 19 through 21,                                                                    
there was  an addition of two  new projects for UA  based on                                                                    
the  deferred maintenance  priority  list.  The House  added                                                                    
$2.2 million in addition to  the Senate's $26 million, which                                                                    
totaled  $28,817,000  for  university  deferred  maintenance                                                                    
which  would   fund  through  project  8   on  the  deferred                                                                    
maintenance list.  The projects  were reflected on  page 31,                                                                    
lines 19 through 21. There  was an addition of $1,194,400 to                                                                    
UA's  Mat-Su  campus-wide   mechanical  systems,  electrical                                                                    
systems, and interior systems. The  next project was on page                                                                    
31, lines  22 through  24 and included  $998,000 for  the UA                                                                    
Prince   William   Sounds    campus'   mechanical   systems,                                                                    
electrical  systems,  fire   protection,  roof  updates  and                                                                    
maintenance, and campus interiors.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  LeLake  moved  to  page  31, lines  25  and  29,  which                                                                    
reflected a fund source change  of $5 million for university                                                                    
receipts to unrestricted general funds  (UGF) for a total of                                                                    
$10  million in  UGF  for  phase III  of  the Alaska  Drones                                                                    
Program. On page 31, line  27 through 29, the House restored                                                                    
$2,220,000 in  funding at  the request  of the  governor for                                                                    
the  UA  Fairbanks'  Alaska   Railbelt  Carbon  Capture  and                                                                    
Sequestration Project.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. LeLake  moved to judiciary  items beginning on  page 32,                                                                    
line  6.  The  House  added  $4.9  million  for  the  Palmer                                                                    
Courthouse expansion, which was  in addition to the Senate's                                                                    
$2.3 million for  a total of $7.2 million.  The addition was                                                                    
also  reflected in  Section 4  of  the bill.  In total,  the                                                                    
House added $103,693,500 for a  total general fund budget of                                                                    
$552,333,333 in UGF. The total  for designated general funds                                                                    
(DGF) was $72,156,700.  In other state funds,  the total was                                                                    
$227,622,965.    In   federal    funds,   the    total   was                                                                    
$3,194,117,557  billion  for  a   total  capital  budget  of                                                                    
$4,46,352,600.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:17:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson asked  Ms.  LeLake  to repeat  the                                                                    
items she highlighted on page 8.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. LeLake  responded that she  highlighted lines 32  and 33                                                                    
on  page 8,  which listed  $2.5 million  for Mat-Su  Borough                                                                    
flood and erosion mitigation for  susceptible roads. On page                                                                    
9, lines 4 and 5, there  was an addition of $2.5 million for                                                                    
the Mat-Su Borough to maintain and enhance local fisheries.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  asked Ms. LeLake to  repeat the items                                                                    
she highlighted on page 16, line 24 and 25.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. LeLake responded  that on page 16, lines 24  and 25, the                                                                    
House  added  $1 million  to  the  AHFC housing  development                                                                    
program. Combined  with the Senate's  $3 million,  the total                                                                    
addition to the program was $4 million.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon added  that  he  had previously  understood                                                                    
that the  $1 million the  House was adding was  the entirety                                                                    
of  the funding,  but  there was  an  additional $3  million                                                                    
coming  from the  Senate  for  a total  of  $4 million.  The                                                                    
program allowed AHFC  to work with the  Alaska Mental Health                                                                    
Trust   Authority  (AMHTA),   the   Department  of   Natural                                                                    
Resources  (DNR),  and  the  university   in  an  effort  to                                                                    
identify possible land that could  be suitable for expanding                                                                    
and  building housing  developments. He  suggested that  the                                                                    
effort would be centered more  around the Railbelt area than                                                                    
outlying areas where land ownership was not state centered.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz  understood that the  governor's budget                                                                    
was not reduced; however, he  thought that in the initial CS                                                                    
proposed by  the Senate, the governor's  budget actually was                                                                    
reduced. He  asked if it  was part  of the deal  between the                                                                    
two bodies  that it would  be the House's  responsibility to                                                                    
restore the funding that the Senate reduced.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   LeLake  responded   that  the   Senate  reduced   some                                                                    
governor's items  by a  little over $50  million as  part of                                                                    
the  agreement.  The  House  was  responsible  for  deciding                                                                    
whether  it wanted  to restore  the funding  for any  of the                                                                    
governor's items  and the  House had  chosen to  restore the                                                                    
funding to one project.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:21:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson asked  Ms. LeLake for clarification                                                                    
on her last statement as he did not hear the final word.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. LeLake responded that the  House restored funding to one                                                                    
project.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson asked which project was restored.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. LeLake responded that the  project was on page 31, lines                                                                    
27 and 29.  The House restored $2,220,000 in  funding at the                                                                    
request  of  the  governor  for  the  UA  Fairbanks'  Alaska                                                                    
Railbelt Carbon Capture and Sequestration Project.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon  noted that the agreement  between the House                                                                    
and Senate  was to fund  the capital budget at  $550 million                                                                    
in UGF  accompanied by about  $3 billion in  federal funding                                                                    
and  other  funding sources.  When  the  capital budget  was                                                                    
originally submitted  by the governor,  he proposed  a total                                                                    
of  around  $303 million  in  UGF.  The capital  budget  was                                                                    
historically  constructed  with  input  from  the  executive                                                                    
branch  and  the  Senate.  Every branch  would  be  able  to                                                                    
contribute to the building of  the budget. The Senate worked                                                                    
with  the governor  to reduce  some  of his  needs but  both                                                                    
bodies contributed to the budget in its current form.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  commented that  she wanted  more time                                                                    
to  digest  the  information  and   she  would  likely  have                                                                    
questions  later. She  thought it  was a  relief that  there                                                                    
would not be many struggles  in the negotiation process. She                                                                    
appreciated  that many  needs seemed  to have  been met  and                                                                    
appreciated the  work that  had been  put into  crafting the                                                                    
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon set an amendment  deadline of Friday, May 3,                                                                    
2024, at 10:00 a.m.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CSSB  187(FIN)  am  was  HEARD and  HELD  in  committee  for                                                                    
further consideration.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:25:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster began chairing the  meeting. He reviewed the                                                                    
meeting agenda for the afternoon.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 223 Public Testimony Rec'd by 042924.pdf HFIN 5/1/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 223
HB 223 Amendments 1-15 043024.pdf HFIN 5/1/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 223
HB 119 DOR Response 4.30.24.pdf HFIN 5/1/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 119
SB 187 HCS FIN WorkDraft v.Y 043024.pdf HFIN 5/1/2024 9:00:00 AM
SB 187
SB 187 v.Y HCS1 TOTAL HouseDistrictSummary Compare to Gov and Senate.pdf HFIN 5/1/2024 9:00:00 AM
SB 187
SB 187 v. Y HCS1 StatewideTotals-Compare to Gov and Senate.pdf HFIN 5/1/2024 9:00:00 AM
SB 187
SB 187 v. Y HCS1 TOTAL ProjectDetailByAgency Compare to Gov and Senate.pdf HFIN 5/1/2024 9:00:00 AM
SB 187