Legislature(2023 - 2024)ADAMS 519

05/14/2024 09:00 AM House FINANCE

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-- Recessed from 5/13/24 --
+ SB 151 MISSING/MURDERED INDIGENOUS PEOPLE;REPORT TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 151(FIN) Out of Committee
+ SB 183 WORKERS' COMP BENEFITS GUARANTY FUND TELECONFERENCED
Moved SB 183 Out of Committee
+= SB 34 CITIZEN ADVISORY COMM ON FEDERAL AREAS TELECONFERENCED
Moved HCS CSSB 34(FIN) Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
SENATE BILL NO. 183                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to the workers' compensation benefits                                                                     
     guaranty fund; and providing for an effective date."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:32:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster welcomed the sponsor to the table.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:33:10 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:34:19 AM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster asked for an introduction of the bill.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  JESSE BJORKMAN,  SPONSOR, explained  that the  bill                                                                    
would protect  the workers' compensation  benefits guarantee                                                                    
fund from  being swept so  that it  had the funds  needed to                                                                    
pay out workers who got hurt  on the job and their employers                                                                    
were  without  workers'  compensation insurance.  In  recent                                                                    
years, injured  workers waited up  to six months  to receive                                                                    
benefit  payments  because  the  fund had  been  empty.  The                                                                    
fund's reserves came from  civil penalties against employers                                                                    
who  did   not  carry  the  statutorily   required  workers'                                                                    
compensation insurance and  reimbursement from employers for                                                                    
injured  employee  benefits  when  the  state  was  able  to                                                                    
recover them. He elaborated that  because the revenue stream                                                                    
and benefit  payouts were irregular,  there were  times when                                                                    
benefit claims were made and  there was insufficient revenue                                                                    
in the  fund to make  payments to  workers who got  hurt. In                                                                    
the past,  the fund had  been carefully managed to  build up                                                                    
reserves that  decoupled from revenues and  claims, would be                                                                    
paid  in  a  timely  manner regardless  of  when  they  were                                                                    
received. However,  since FY  21, the  Constitutional Budget                                                                    
Reserve  (CBR) sweep  had  cleared  the unobligated  balance                                                                    
from  the fund  each year,  removing the  reserves that  had                                                                    
allowed for timely payments from the fund.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bjorkman  relayed that the bill  had been introduced                                                                    
by the  Senate Labor and  Commerce Committee at  the request                                                                    
of the  Alaska Workers' Compensation Board  (AWCB) and would                                                                    
help to moderate  the fluctuations. The bill  would move the                                                                    
fund outside  of the general fund  so that it was  no longer                                                                    
subject to  the CBR  sweep and  could gradually  rebuild its                                                                    
reserves in  order to pay  claims as they were  received. He                                                                    
noted that  an individual with  the Department of  Labor and                                                                    
Workforce   Development   (DLWD)    Division   of   Workers'                                                                    
Compensation  was   available  online  to   provide  further                                                                    
details.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:36:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson stated  her  understanding  that the  bill                                                                    
needed  to happen  because some  funds had  been swept  that                                                                    
included some workers' money. She  asked how the problem had                                                                    
been corrected.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bjorkman  answered that when  there had been  a zero                                                                    
balance in  the fund it  was his understanding  that workers                                                                    
had to wait  or once the problem had  been identified, there                                                                    
had been  some direction given  for the benefits to  be paid                                                                    
from somewhere;  however, no one  had been able to  tell him                                                                    
where the money came from as of yet.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
LAURA  ACHEE, STAFF,  SENATOR JESSE  BJORKMAN, replied  that                                                                    
the  bill  would  move the  Workers'  Compensation  Benefits                                                                    
Guarantee  Fund   out  of  the   general  fund   (which  was                                                                    
sweepable),  and  make  it  a separate  fund  in  the  state                                                                    
treasury. The  intent was to  remove the fund from  the list                                                                    
of funds that were eligible to be swept.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson  stated her understanding that  some of the                                                                    
funds had been  swept and consequently it  had required some                                                                    
clean up and for some of the funds to be reinstated.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  noted that conference committee  had closed                                                                    
out. He  noted that Co-Chair Johnson,  Representative Ortiz,                                                                    
and  Representative  Coulombe  had joined  the  meeting.  He                                                                    
asked to hear comments and a fiscal note review from DLWD.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHARLES    COLLINS,   DIRECTOR,    DIVISION   OF    WORKERS'                                                                    
COMPENSATION, DEPARTMENT OF  LABOR AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT                                                                    
(via  teleconference),   responded  to   Co-Chair  Johnson's                                                                    
question. He  relayed that  over $4  million had  been swept                                                                    
from  the  Benefit  Guarantee Fund  over  the  past  several                                                                    
years,  which had  greatly impacted  the state's  ability to                                                                    
pay  ongoing  indemnity  and  medical  benefits  to  injured                                                                    
employees and  medical providers. The department  was asking                                                                    
the  legislature   to  protect   the  funds  as   they  were                                                                    
completely made  up of settlements or  fines where employers                                                                    
had been  through the hearing  process and settled  with the                                                                    
state  for   failing  to   cover  employees   with  workers'                                                                    
compensation insurance. He noted  it reflected a minority of                                                                    
the  employers  in  Alaska; over  99  percent  of  employers                                                                    
continued to provide coverage  for their employees. However,                                                                    
those few  employers [without coverage for  their employees]                                                                    
sometimes  had  some egregious  injuries  and  had cost  the                                                                    
employee the ability to take  care of themselves. There were                                                                    
currently  several individuals  who  would  likely never  be                                                                    
able to  work again.  He elaborated that  the injury  was to                                                                    
the  extent  an  individual  was paralyzed  or  had  lost  a                                                                    
portion of  their body and  they were  no longer able  to do                                                                    
the job and in some cases any job.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Collins relayed that the  department had recommended the                                                                    
bill because  the Alaska  Workers' Compensation  Board voted                                                                    
unanimously to  send a resolution requesting  the protection                                                                    
of  the fund  (copy on  file). The  fund was  established in                                                                    
2005 and it took over a  decade to achieve a decent balance,                                                                    
knowing  that occasionally  there would  be a  claim in  the                                                                    
millions of  dollars. Unfortunately,  after the  first sweep                                                                    
event, the  state had been  ordered by the supreme  court to                                                                    
pay a  claim of about  $1.1 million. The combination  of the                                                                    
two things  had greatly emptied  the fund. Since  that time,                                                                    
the state  had struggled every  fiscal year to cover  all of                                                                    
the benefits. In recent years,  the Office of Management and                                                                    
Budget (OMB)  had directed him  to pay the benefits  and pay                                                                    
from the  fund into the  negative and the benefits  would be                                                                    
covered  through reappropriation.  He highlighted  that DLWD                                                                    
had requested $530,000  in the FY 24  supplemental budget to                                                                    
cover  benefits.  He  relayed  that  the  fiscal  note  [OMB                                                                    
component  number  2820]  was zero  because  there  were  no                                                                    
changes to  the management  of the  fund. He  explained that                                                                    
the  fund  was  managed  by staff  within  the  Division  of                                                                    
Workers'  Compensation.  The   department's  goal  with  the                                                                    
legislation was merely to keep the fund from sweep action.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:43:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster OPENED public testimony.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:43:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  noted it  was an issue  his office                                                                    
had been  involved with the  previous term. He  thought that                                                                    
when the  CBR had been created  by the people in  1990, they                                                                    
would  not  have  approved  it  if they  had  known  of  the                                                                    
unintended consequence. He stated  that sweeping the fund so                                                                    
that  it  was  unable  to  meet  its  intended  purpose  was                                                                    
illogical.  He  noted  that  superior  court  Judge  [Josie]                                                                    
Garton wrote an  opinion a couple of years  ago (he believed                                                                    
related  to  power  cost  equalization)  that  said  calling                                                                    
something a separate  fund met the requirements  of the past                                                                    
supreme court decision  Hickel v Cowper. He  stated that the                                                                    
bill  before the  committee  was  one of  the  cures and  he                                                                    
applauded  the senator  for bringing  the  bill forward.  He                                                                    
stated  that the  legislature used  to routinely  repopulate                                                                    
funds; however, around 2020 it  stopped and had become a new                                                                    
weapon  that  had  never  been   used  before  to  deny  the                                                                    
repopulation of funds. He supported the bill.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan  observed  that  when  the  fund  was                                                                    
established one of the primary  funding mechanisms was civil                                                                    
penalty   assessments  against   uninsured  employers.   She                                                                    
referenced a packet  of information from DLWD  and looked at                                                                    
page  2 showing  revenue  including  supplemental funds  and                                                                    
investment  profits. She  asked Mr.  Collins how  much money                                                                    
the fund  received annually from civil  penalty assessments.                                                                    
She asked if it was around $750,000.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Collins answered  that in a typical year  the funds were                                                                    
about $750,000, but the current  year was about $680,000. He                                                                    
noted  the previous  year had  been  a bit  better than  the                                                                    
current  year.  The   amount  generally  fluctuated  between                                                                    
$700,000  and  $750,000.  He  noted  the  division  had  one                                                                    
position tasked  with managing the payment  agreements going                                                                    
forward. He  relayed that  investigators were  constantly on                                                                    
the job.  The department tried  to remind employers  to keep                                                                    
their insurance  up. He stated  it would  be a great  day if                                                                    
all employees  were covered  with workers'  compensation and                                                                    
the guarantee  fund had no purpose.  Unfortunately, that was                                                                    
not the situation.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan reasoned  there  must be  a lag  time                                                                    
between the  department becoming  aware an employer  was not                                                                    
paying  the insurance  and action  being taken  to create  a                                                                    
payment plan.  She asked if the  lag time was one  year. She                                                                    
asked if the  department was collecting money  from a year's                                                                    
arrears or longer.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:47:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Collins replied that he  could not say exactly how many,                                                                    
but it  was not  uncommon for the  division to  have payment                                                                    
plans set  up with employers who  did not have the  funds to                                                                    
pay the agreed upon amount. There  could be a fine levied of                                                                    
around $50,000 or more after  going through the formula laid                                                                    
out in  statute. He explained  that the employer may  not be                                                                    
able to  pay that amount.  In that  case the division  did a                                                                    
payment  agreement at  his direction,  which  over the  past                                                                    
four years had  been any amount as long as  the employer was                                                                    
always paying. For example, if  an employer was sending $100                                                                    
per month,  the division was  allowing them to  continue the                                                                    
payment.  In  most  cases  there   was  a  set  amount  that                                                                    
employers were to pay as expeditiously as possible.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan underscored the  importance of why the                                                                    
fund needed to  not be sweepable. She stated  that the sweep                                                                    
mechanism  was set  up on  an  annual fiscal  year, yet  the                                                                    
purpose  of the  fund  was  to collect  things  that may  be                                                                    
happening over  multiple fiscal years and  securing funds to                                                                    
be  available  to  meet the  fund's  intended  purpose.  She                                                                    
stated that  if a payment  plan was five years  in duration,                                                                    
yet the  fund was swept  annually, the money  never accrued.                                                                    
She remarked that  it was an important  piece of legislation                                                                    
to get across the finish line in the current session.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bjorkman thanked  the committee  for questions  and                                                                    
commentary and Mr. Collins for  his diligent work in keeping                                                                    
the effort up.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp   MOVED  to  REPORT  SB   183  out  of                                                                    
committee   with   individual    recommendations   and   the                                                                    
accompanying fiscal note.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SB 183 was  REPORTED out of committee with  eleven "do pass"                                                                    
recommendations  and  with  one  previously  published  zero                                                                    
note: FN1 (LFW).                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster thanked the senator and his staff.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  noted that  the 10:00  am meeting  would be                                                                    
delayed.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 275 Public Testimony Rec'd by 051424.pdf HFIN 5/14/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 275
SB151 Public Testimony Rec'd by 051424.pdf HFIN 5/14/2024 9:00:00 AM
SB 151