Legislature(2023 - 2024)ADAMS 519
05/14/2024 09:00 AM House FINANCE
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SB151 | |
SB34 | |
SB183 | |
Adjourn |
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+ | SB 151 | TELECONFERENCED | |
+ | SB 183 | TELECONFERENCED | |
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SENATE BILL NO. 183 "An Act relating to the workers' compensation benefits guaranty fund; and providing for an effective date." 9:32:37 AM Co-Chair Foster welcomed the sponsor to the table. 9:33:10 AM AT EASE 9:34:19 AM RECONVENED Co-Chair Foster asked for an introduction of the bill. SENATOR JESSE BJORKMAN, SPONSOR, explained that the bill would protect the workers' compensation benefits guarantee fund from being swept so that it had the funds needed to pay out workers who got hurt on the job and their employers were without workers' compensation insurance. In recent years, injured workers waited up to six months to receive benefit payments because the fund had been empty. The fund's reserves came from civil penalties against employers who did not carry the statutorily required workers' compensation insurance and reimbursement from employers for injured employee benefits when the state was able to recover them. He elaborated that because the revenue stream and benefit payouts were irregular, there were times when benefit claims were made and there was insufficient revenue in the fund to make payments to workers who got hurt. In the past, the fund had been carefully managed to build up reserves that decoupled from revenues and claims, would be paid in a timely manner regardless of when they were received. However, since FY 21, the Constitutional Budget Reserve (CBR) sweep had cleared the unobligated balance from the fund each year, removing the reserves that had allowed for timely payments from the fund. Senator Bjorkman relayed that the bill had been introduced by the Senate Labor and Commerce Committee at the request of the Alaska Workers' Compensation Board (AWCB) and would help to moderate the fluctuations. The bill would move the fund outside of the general fund so that it was no longer subject to the CBR sweep and could gradually rebuild its reserves in order to pay claims as they were received. He noted that an individual with the Department of Labor and Workforce Development (DLWD) Division of Workers' Compensation was available online to provide further details. 9:36:45 AM Co-Chair Johnson stated her understanding that the bill needed to happen because some funds had been swept that included some workers' money. She asked how the problem had been corrected. Senator Bjorkman answered that when there had been a zero balance in the fund it was his understanding that workers had to wait or once the problem had been identified, there had been some direction given for the benefits to be paid from somewhere; however, no one had been able to tell him where the money came from as of yet. LAURA ACHEE, STAFF, SENATOR JESSE BJORKMAN, replied that the bill would move the Workers' Compensation Benefits Guarantee Fund out of the general fund (which was sweepable), and make it a separate fund in the state treasury. The intent was to remove the fund from the list of funds that were eligible to be swept. Co-Chair Johnson stated her understanding that some of the funds had been swept and consequently it had required some clean up and for some of the funds to be reinstated. Co-Chair Foster noted that conference committee had closed out. He noted that Co-Chair Johnson, Representative Ortiz, and Representative Coulombe had joined the meeting. He asked to hear comments and a fiscal note review from DLWD. CHARLES COLLINS, DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF WORKERS' COMPENSATION, DEPARTMENT OF LABOR AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT (via teleconference), responded to Co-Chair Johnson's question. He relayed that over $4 million had been swept from the Benefit Guarantee Fund over the past several years, which had greatly impacted the state's ability to pay ongoing indemnity and medical benefits to injured employees and medical providers. The department was asking the legislature to protect the funds as they were completely made up of settlements or fines where employers had been through the hearing process and settled with the state for failing to cover employees with workers' compensation insurance. He noted it reflected a minority of the employers in Alaska; over 99 percent of employers continued to provide coverage for their employees. However, those few employers [without coverage for their employees] sometimes had some egregious injuries and had cost the employee the ability to take care of themselves. There were currently several individuals who would likely never be able to work again. He elaborated that the injury was to the extent an individual was paralyzed or had lost a portion of their body and they were no longer able to do the job and in some cases any job. Mr. Collins relayed that the department had recommended the bill because the Alaska Workers' Compensation Board voted unanimously to send a resolution requesting the protection of the fund (copy on file). The fund was established in 2005 and it took over a decade to achieve a decent balance, knowing that occasionally there would be a claim in the millions of dollars. Unfortunately, after the first sweep event, the state had been ordered by the supreme court to pay a claim of about $1.1 million. The combination of the two things had greatly emptied the fund. Since that time, the state had struggled every fiscal year to cover all of the benefits. In recent years, the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) had directed him to pay the benefits and pay from the fund into the negative and the benefits would be covered through reappropriation. He highlighted that DLWD had requested $530,000 in the FY 24 supplemental budget to cover benefits. He relayed that the fiscal note [OMB component number 2820] was zero because there were no changes to the management of the fund. He explained that the fund was managed by staff within the Division of Workers' Compensation. The department's goal with the legislation was merely to keep the fund from sweep action. 9:43:10 AM Co-Chair Foster OPENED public testimony. Co-Chair Foster CLOSED public testimony. 9:43:50 AM Representative Josephson noted it was an issue his office had been involved with the previous term. He thought that when the CBR had been created by the people in 1990, they would not have approved it if they had known of the unintended consequence. He stated that sweeping the fund so that it was unable to meet its intended purpose was illogical. He noted that superior court Judge [Josie] Garton wrote an opinion a couple of years ago (he believed related to power cost equalization) that said calling something a separate fund met the requirements of the past supreme court decision Hickel v Cowper. He stated that the bill before the committee was one of the cures and he applauded the senator for bringing the bill forward. He stated that the legislature used to routinely repopulate funds; however, around 2020 it stopped and had become a new weapon that had never been used before to deny the repopulation of funds. He supported the bill. Representative Hannan observed that when the fund was established one of the primary funding mechanisms was civil penalty assessments against uninsured employers. She referenced a packet of information from DLWD and looked at page 2 showing revenue including supplemental funds and investment profits. She asked Mr. Collins how much money the fund received annually from civil penalty assessments. She asked if it was around $750,000. Mr. Collins answered that in a typical year the funds were about $750,000, but the current year was about $680,000. He noted the previous year had been a bit better than the current year. The amount generally fluctuated between $700,000 and $750,000. He noted the division had one position tasked with managing the payment agreements going forward. He relayed that investigators were constantly on the job. The department tried to remind employers to keep their insurance up. He stated it would be a great day if all employees were covered with workers' compensation and the guarantee fund had no purpose. Unfortunately, that was not the situation. Representative Hannan reasoned there must be a lag time between the department becoming aware an employer was not paying the insurance and action being taken to create a payment plan. She asked if the lag time was one year. She asked if the department was collecting money from a year's arrears or longer. 9:47:25 AM Mr. Collins replied that he could not say exactly how many, but it was not uncommon for the division to have payment plans set up with employers who did not have the funds to pay the agreed upon amount. There could be a fine levied of around $50,000 or more after going through the formula laid out in statute. He explained that the employer may not be able to pay that amount. In that case the division did a payment agreement at his direction, which over the past four years had been any amount as long as the employer was always paying. For example, if an employer was sending $100 per month, the division was allowing them to continue the payment. In most cases there was a set amount that employers were to pay as expeditiously as possible. Representative Hannan underscored the importance of why the fund needed to not be sweepable. She stated that the sweep mechanism was set up on an annual fiscal year, yet the purpose of the fund was to collect things that may be happening over multiple fiscal years and securing funds to be available to meet the fund's intended purpose. She stated that if a payment plan was five years in duration, yet the fund was swept annually, the money never accrued. She remarked that it was an important piece of legislation to get across the finish line in the current session. Senator Bjorkman thanked the committee for questions and commentary and Mr. Collins for his diligent work in keeping the effort up. Representative Stapp MOVED to REPORT SB 183 out of committee with individual recommendations and the accompanying fiscal note. There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered. SB 183 was REPORTED out of committee with eleven "do pass" recommendations and with one previously published zero note: FN1 (LFW). Co-Chair Foster thanked the senator and his staff. Co-Chair Foster noted that the 10:00 am meeting would be delayed.
Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
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HB 275 Public Testimony Rec'd by 051424.pdf |
HFIN 5/14/2024 9:00:00 AM |
HB 275 |
SB151 Public Testimony Rec'd by 051424.pdf |
HFIN 5/14/2024 9:00:00 AM |
SB 151 |