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02/29/2024 03:30 PM Senate HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES

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03:32:03 PM Start
03:32:42 PM SB181
03:59:55 PM Adjourn
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            SB 181-CHILD PLACEMENT; DILIGENT SEARCH                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:32:42 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON announced the consideration of SENATE BILL NO. 181                                                                 
"An  Act  relating to  placement  of  a  child  in need  of  aid;                                                               
relating to adoption; and providing for an effective date."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:33:28 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON solicited a motion.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:33:29 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR TOBIN  moved to adopt  the committee substitute  (CS) for                                                               
SB 181, work order, 33-LS0348\Y, as the working document.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:33:44 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:33:48 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  JESSE BJORKMAN,  District D,  Alaska State  Legislature,                                                               
Juneau, Alaska, sponsor of SB 181, introduced Ms. Achee.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:34:08 PM                                                                                                                    
LAURA  ACHEE,   Staff,  Senator  Jesse  Bjorkman,   Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, Juneau, Alaska, provided  the sectional analysis for                                                               
SB 181 from version H to Y:                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
        SENATE BILL 181 CHILD PLACEMENT; DILIGENT SEARCH                                                                      
               SUMMARY OF CHANGES VERSION H TO Y                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
     Section  1    Clarifies that  while foster  parents may                                                                    
     request   hearings   regarding   placement   under   AS                                                                    
     47.10.080(s), they are not parties  to child in need of                                                                    
     aid cases.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section  2     Clarifies the  requirements  for  family                                                                    
     searches  in AS  47.10.088(i) when  OCS is  determining                                                                    
     final  placement of  a child  following termination  of                                                                    
     parental rights.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section  2     Retains   eligibility  for  foster  care                                                                    
     license as standard for notification                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2    Changes  "courts" to "department"  on page                                                                    
     2, lines 27  and 29 of as the Department  of Family and                                                                    
     Youth  Services is  responsible for  the actions  taken                                                                    
     under AS 47.10.088(i) and not the Court System.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section 4   Removes  the search requirement following a                                                                    
     transfer of  placement under AS 47.10.080(s)  on page 3                                                                    
     line 21    23. This requirement is not  in other Alaska                                                                    
     statutes regarding  family searches and could  place an                                                                    
     undue requirement  on the Department  as in  some cases                                                                    
     transfer  can be  of very  short duration,  such as  to                                                                    
     provide overnight inpatient medical care.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section  4   Removes  the   requirement  from  the  new                                                                    
     language in  AS 47.10.145 to provide  written notice in                                                                    
     languages  other than  English. This  may create  undue                                                                    
     hardship for the Department as  there are 250 languages                                                                    
     spoken in Alaska.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Section 4    Replaces the requirement on  page 4, lines                                                                    
     23 -  24 to file  with the court  information regarding                                                                    
     the Department's  progress on  family searches  10 days                                                                    
     in advance  of hearings  with a requirement  to provide                                                                    
     the information  in writing at  the time of  a hearing.                                                                    
     Cuts  language directing  oral  reports of  information                                                                    
     received  after  the  10-day  filing  deadline  as  all                                                                    
     information  will  be  reported  at  the  time  of  the                                                                    
     hearing.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section  5      Adds  language  to   clarify  that  the                                                                    
     preferences in AS  47.14.100(e)(3)(A) should be applied                                                                    
     in consideration of the best interest of the child.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Section  6     Retains   eligibility  for  foster  care                                                                    
     license as standard for placement  of a child Page 2 of                                                                    
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     Section  6     Adds  language  to  AS  47.14.100(m)  to                                                                    
     clarify  that  non-parties requesting  review  hearings                                                                    
     under  AS 47.10.080(s)  are not  eligible for  publicly                                                                    
     appointed legal counsel.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section 7    Adds a new section that  would require the                                                                    
     Department to assist family  members and family friends                                                                    
     in  the process  of  seeking licensing  and waivers  to                                                                    
     licensing requirements under AS 47.32.032.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:39:44 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. ACHEE provided  a brief history of foster  care licensing and                                                               
placement requirements  to explain the reason  for adding Section                                                               
7 to  SB 181. She stated  that the department finds  it difficult                                                               
to  move  away from  a  licensing  standard  to a  best  interest                                                               
standard and recommended  that family and friends  use the waiver                                                               
process to  become foster parents.  Since the waiver  process can                                                               
be difficult for  people unfamiliar with foster  care system, the                                                               
department  suggested  that  instead  of  removing  the  existing                                                               
language,  SB 181  should direct  the department  to help  family                                                               
members in  obtaining a waiver.  She stated that  agencies aren't                                                               
allowed  to do  whatever seems  rightthey  must  do what  they've                                                               
been  empowered  to  do  by   the  legislature.  By  giving  this                                                               
direction to the  department, it becomes a duty  to help families                                                               
with the waiver process.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:41:01 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON acknowledged Senator Dunbar joined the meeting.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:41:28 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:42:06 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON reconvened the meeting.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:42:11 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  TOBIN asked  about the  department's capacity  to assist                                                               
families who may speak another  language, are new to the country,                                                               
or lack experience with the legal and foster care systems.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:42:50 PM                                                                                                                    
KIM GUAY,  Director, Office of  Children Services,  Department of                                                               
Family and  Community Services (DFCS), Anchorage,  Alaska replied                                                               
that   the  department   has  access   to   language  banks   and                                                               
interpreters, particularly  in rural  Alaska. She  explained that                                                               
they also  try to  utilize individuals near  the family,  such as                                                               
partners who  speak the  family's language  or through  tribal or                                                               
child advocacy centers.  Although they aim to  meet needs through                                                               
various  resources, access  to a  language bank  is available  if                                                               
required.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:43:33 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  TOBIN   asked  if  the   department  ensures   that  the                                                               
information transmitted to potential  family members is accurate,                                                               
especially in cases involving complex  legal terminology or legal                                                               
prescriptions.  She inquired  about  the safeguards  in place  to                                                               
guarantee accuracy.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. GUAY replied that the  challenge often lies in obtaining past                                                               
records to  determine if a  current relative would be  a suitable                                                               
provider.  She  noted  that  it  can  be  difficult  to  retrieve                                                               
records, especially  if the person  is from a  different country,                                                               
is from rural Alaska, or the  events occurred many years ago. The                                                               
department   works   if   with  available   systems   to   gather                                                               
information, but when official records,  such as court documents,                                                               
are   unavailable,  they   consider  the   individual's  history,                                                               
references, and  parenting experience.  She mentioned  a variance                                                               
process  that   helps  navigate  complex  cases,   such  as  when                                                               
documents are inaccessible, giving  an example where a courthouse                                                               
fire destroyed  necessary records, forcing the  department to use                                                               
alternative means to vet the person.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:45:32 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  TOBIN  asked how  the  department's  search for  records                                                               
intersects with an individual's right  to privacy. She noted that                                                               
the   right  to   privacy,  particularly   concerning  electronic                                                               
records, was  established in the constitution  to protect against                                                               
state   access    to   personal   information.    She   requested                                                               
clarification on how the department navigates this issue.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:46:05 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. GUAY explained that if a  person seeks to have a child placed                                                               
in their  care through the  Office of Children's  Services (OCS),                                                               
they must demonstrate that they  have remedied any past behavior,                                                               
such  as  a   termination  of  parental  rights   or  a  criminal                                                               
conviction. While  the department cannot obtain  this information                                                               
directly, they can guide the  individual on where to retrieve it.                                                               
If  the  individual chooses  to  sign  a Release  of  Information                                                               
(ROI),  the  department  can assist  in  obtaining  the  records.                                                               
However, the decision to share  this information is ultimately up                                                               
to  the  individual.  If  they   choose  not  to  share  it,  the                                                               
department  may  be  unable  to  determine if  their  home  is  a                                                               
suitable placement for the child.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:46:59 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR  asked about Section  4, which removes  the search                                                               
requirement  following a  transfer  of placement.  He noted  that                                                               
former  Representative  Gara  had  worked hard  to  include  this                                                               
provision  and  questioned  why  it  is  now  being  removed.  He                                                               
acknowledged that  the justification  provided is  that transfers                                                               
can be  of short duration but  wondered if the language  could be                                                               
adjusted so that only short  transfers are exempt since transfers                                                               
trigger the search requirement and circumstances change.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:48:08 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  GUAY  replied  that  the   proposal  to  remove  the  search                                                               
requirement  following a  transfer of  placement aims  to address                                                               
redundancy in the system. She  explained that children might move                                                               
frequently  between  relatives  or   family  friends,  making  it                                                               
impractical  to conduct  relative searches  with every  placement                                                               
change.  She emphasized  that  there  are built-in  opportunities                                                               
within the  SB 181 for  relative notification and  searches, such                                                               
as  during the  first  30  days after  a  child  enters care,  at                                                               
disposition  hearings,  permanency  hearings, or  when  the  goal                                                               
shifts from reunification to adoption  or guardianship. She noted                                                               
that in the  Office of Children's Services (OCS),  each change of                                                               
placement,  even  short-term  stays   under  the  Prudent  Parent                                                               
standard,  like  visiting  a friend's  or  relative's  house,  is                                                               
considered  a placement  change, which  would trigger  a relative                                                               
search under the current requirement.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:50:09 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR asked  if SB 181 is requesting the  removal of the                                                               
requirement  under AS  47.10.080(s)  and  whether the  department                                                               
could provide  data on how  many searches were triggered  by this                                                               
provision  and how  many resulted  in a  permanent placement.  He                                                               
inquired if  the department tracks  the number of  these searches                                                               
performed.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:50:48 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. GUAY replied that the  department does not specifically track                                                               
the data Senator Dunbar requested.  She elaborated that while she                                                               
could provide information on the  number of relatives involved in                                                               
a specific case  or across the 2,600 children  currently in care,                                                               
the department cannot break down  the data to the specific detail                                                               
requested. She noted  that the number of  relatives varies widely                                                               
between  cases,   with  some  families  having   many  relatives                                                                
sometimes  over  150and   others   having  very  few,  making  it                                                               
difficult to provide the detailed information sought.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:51:56 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DUNBAR requested  that, before  the next  hearing of  SB
181, the department  provide any available data  to help quantify                                                               
the burden that  the current provision places  on the department.                                                               
He expressed  a desire to  understand the extent of  the searches                                                               
triggered  by   this  provision   and  asked  for   any  relevant                                                               
information to  support the  assertion that  it creates  an undue                                                               
burden.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:52:27 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  BJORKMAN emphasized  that  the focus  should  be on  the                                                               
quality of the  searches rather than the quantity.  He noted that                                                               
the bill includes  measures to ensure that  searches are thorough                                                               
and effective, using various databases  and methods to locate and                                                               
connect with  families. He  compared this  to how  merely looking                                                               
for something  isn't enough; a  high-quality search  is necessary                                                               
to achieve meaningful results.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:53:43 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. GUAY  clarified that  Section 4 of  SB 181  contains entirely                                                               
new language, added  at the request of  stakeholders. She pointed                                                               
out that  Section 3  of SB 181  reflects existing  statute, which                                                               
does  not  include  the  requirement for  a  search  after  every                                                               
temporary placement.  She explained  that the  language mandating                                                               
searches with each  temporary placement change, found  in the new                                                               
Section  4,  was inserted  by  the  legislative drafter  and  not                                                               
requested   by   stakeholders.   After   discussions   with   the                                                               
department,  which   expressed  concerns  about  the   burden  of                                                               
conducting searches  with every  temporary placement  change, the                                                               
decision was  made to  remove that  language. She  reassured that                                                               
this decision does not alter  the original provisions authored by                                                               
former   Representative   Gara.    She   highlighted   that   the                                                               
department's  current   operations  do  not   include  conducting                                                               
searches  for  every  temporary  placement  change,  which  might                                                               
explain  the department's  difficulty  in providing  data on  the                                                               
impact of the proposed change.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:55:31 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR TOBIN expressed curiosity  about Section 5, [lines 18-20]                                                               
regarding    [AS     47.14.100(e)(3)(A)]    sibling    placement,                                                               
specifically when there is a  conflict between the best interests                                                               
of a  child under six  and a child  over six. She  questioned how                                                               
this  section  might  impact situations  where  a  best  interest                                                               
finding  could  result  in siblings  being  placed  in  different                                                               
environments.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:56:23 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BJORMAN opined that it would  be difficult for a court to                                                               
justify  separating  siblings  in  a best  interest  finding.  He                                                               
acknowledged  that other  stakeholders  have  questioned the  age                                                               
division  and  expressed willingness  to  remove  it if  desired.                                                               
However,  he  emphasized  that   studies  and  research  indicate                                                               
children  under  six are  at  the  highest risk  for  significant                                                               
adverse childhood experiences when  removed from a placement they                                                               
have been in for a year or  longer. He explained that this is why                                                               
the  age  division  is  included.   He  stressed  that  both  the                                                               
department and  the court would  have to agree that  separating a                                                               
child from  siblings is  in the child's  best interest,  which he                                                               
believes would only happen in the most extreme circumstances.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:57:42 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR TOBIN  stated adverse  childhood experiences  (ACES) also                                                               
occur for children over six  years old. She expressed interest in                                                               
hearing  from   the  court   system  regarding   whether  sibling                                                               
separation  has  occurred  in  the past,  whether  there  is  any                                                               
precedent,  and what  stipulations  the court  might consider  in                                                               
such cases.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:58:23 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR   WILSON  removed   his  objection;   finding  no   further                                                               
objection, CSSB 181 was adopted.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:58:32 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON held SB 181 in committee.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:58:56 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BJORKMAN  said he would continue  to work on SB  181 with                                                               
the committee.                                                                                                                  

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 181 CS SHSS v Y.pdf SHSS 2/29/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 181
SB 181 Summary of Changes Ver H to Y.pdf SHSS 2/29/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 181
SB 181 FN DOA PDA.pdf SHSS 2/29/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 181
SB 181 FN Judiciary -Trial Courts.pdf SHSS 2/29/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 181
SB 181 FN DOA OPA.pdf SHSS 2/29/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 181
SB 181 OCS PAC Opposition.pdf SHSS 2/29/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 181
SB 181 LOS Mason_Redacted.pdf SHSS 2/29/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 181
SB 181 follow-up from Nancy Meade (Courts).pdf SHSS 2/29/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 181