Legislature(2023 - 2024)BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)

04/04/2024 01:30 PM Senate COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS

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02:00:26 PM Start
02:01:29 PM Presentation(s): Local Boundary Commission Overview
02:28:44 PM SB174
02:43:09 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
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+ Presentation: Local Boundary Commission TELECONFERENCED
+= HCR 8 HONORING VIETNAM WAR VETERANS TELECONFERENCED
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*+ SB 252 ARBOR DAY TELECONFERENCED
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+ SB 174 HONOR & REMEMBER/HONOR & SACRIFICE FLAGS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
Uniform Rule 23(a) Waived
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
         SB 174-HONOR & REMEMBER/HONOR & SACRIFICE FLAGS                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:28:44 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR   DUNBAR   reconvened   the   meeting   and   announced   the                                                             
consideration  of SENATE  BILL  NO. 174  "An  Act relating  to  the                                                             
Honor and Remember Flag and the Honor and Sacrifice Flag."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
The  intention  is to  hear  a brief  introduction,  the  sectional                                                             
analysis, invited testimony, and public testimony on SB 174.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:29:15 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  BJORKMAN speaking  as  the sponsor  of SB  174,  explained                                                             
that  the bill  seeks to  recognize the  "Honor and  Remember"  and                                                             
"Honor and  Sacrifice" flags  as state symbols.  These flags  honor                                                             
the service  of members of  the armed forces  and first responders                                                              
who  serve   their  communities.  He   paraphrased  the   following                                                             
sponsor statement:                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     The  loss of  a family  member  is difficult,  made  even                                                                  
     more  difficult when  that person  was lost  in the  line                                                                  
     of  duty.  Senate  Bill 174,  "An  Act  relating  to  the                                                                  
     Honor  and Remember  Flag  and the  Honor  and Sacrifice                                                                   
     Flag,"   would  create   state   symbols  that   can   be                                                                  
     displayed  to recognize  the sacrifice of  those lost  in                                                                  
     the  line  of  duty  while  serving  in  the  U.S. armed                                                                   
     forces,  or  as a  police  officer  or  firefighter,  and                                                                  
     their families.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     While  monuments   and  memorials  have  been  built   to                                                                  
     recognize  those  who  lost their  lives  in  service  to                                                                  
     their country  or community, fewer  than five percent  of                                                                  
     Americans  will ever  see them.  Creating  the Honor  and                                                                  
     Remember  and Honor and Sacrifice  Flags will provide  an                                                                  
     official   emblem  that  recognizes   with  dignity   and                                                                  
     respect   those   that   have   offered   the   greatest                                                                   
     sacrifice,  as  well  as  the  ongoing  loss  that their                                                                   
     families  must endure. Twenty-seven  states have adopted                                                                   
     the Honor  and Remember Flag as  their states' symbol  of                                                                  
     recognition  for  military  service  members   that  have                                                                  
     died  in the  line  of duty,  protecting,  and defending                                                                   
     our liberties.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     SB  174 designates  in state  law the forms  these flags                                                                   
     must  take,  as  well  as where  and  when  they  may  be                                                                  
     flown.  Implementation  of  the  bill  would  not create                                                                   
     additional  costs   for  the  State  of  Alaska,  as   it                                                                  
     designates  when and  where the  flags may  be displayed                                                                   
     but does not require State offices to do so.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:31:29 PM                                                                                                                    
LAURA ACHEE, staff, Senator Jesse Bjorkman, Alaska State                                                                        
Legislature, Juneau, Alaska, presented the sectional analysis on                                                                
SB 174, paraphrased as follows:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
{Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
         SB 174 Honor & Remember/Honor & Sacrifice Flags                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
                    Ver. B Sectional Analysis                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section  1      Adds  a  new  section  AS  44.09.097   to                                                                
     designate  the Honor  and Remember  Flag as  an official                                                                   
     symbol  of the state  to recognize and  honor members  of                                                                  
     the armed  forces of the United  States who have died  in                                                                  
     the  line  of duty  and  their  families,  designate  the                                                                  
     design  of the  flag, and  designate when  and where  the                                                                  
     flag  may  be  flown.  This section  includes  direction                                                                   
     that an  employee may not be  required to report to  work                                                                  
     solely  for  the  purpose  of  displaying  the  flag  and                                                                  
     gives  the Commissioner  of Administration  authority  to                                                                  
     adopt any necessary regulations.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section  2      Adds  a  new  section  AS  44.09.099   to                                                                
     designate  the Honor and  Sacrifice Flag  as an official                                                                   
     symbol  of  the  state  to  recognize  and  honor police                                                                   
     officers  and firefighters  that  have died  in the  line                                                                  
     of  duty and  their  families, designate  the  design  of                                                                  
     the flag,  and designate when and  where the flag may  be                                                                  
     flown.   This   section  includes   direction   that   an                                                                  
     employee  may not be  required to report  to work solely                                                                   
     for  the purpose  of displaying  the flag  and gives  the                                                                  
     Commissioner  of Administration  authority  to adopt  any                                                                  
     necessary regulations.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:32:54 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DUNBAR announced invited testimony on SB 174.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:33:03 PM                                                                                                                    
DAVID  CASWELL,  Director,  Honor  and  Remember  Alaska   Chapter,                                                             
Sterling,  Alaska, gave  invited testimony  in support  of SB  174.                                                             
provided a  brief work history including  13 years as director  and                                                             
ambassador  of the Alaska  chapter of Honor  and Remember. He  said                                                             
he  supports adopting  the  Honor and  Remember  flags as  a  state                                                             
symbol.  He  noted that  in  the 247-year  history  of  the  United                                                             
States, 1.3  million military  personnel have died  in the line  of                                                             
duty.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. CASWELL  explained that Honor and  Remember was established  on                                                             
Memorial  Day  2008   as  a  national  organization  dedicated   to                                                             
honoring  the  memory  of  fallen  military  service  members.  The                                                             
Honor  and  Sacrifice   flag  was  first  presented  on   the  15th                                                             
anniversary  of 9/11 to  honor fallen  first responders,  including                                                             
firefighters,  law enforcement,  and  EMTs. Nationally,  more  than                                                             
5,000 personalized  Honor and  Remember flags  have been  presented                                                             
to  Gold Star  families,  and he  has  personally presented  21  of                                                             
these flags to Alaska families.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CASWELL  stated   that  through  his  efforts,  five   Veteran                                                             
Service  Organizations, three  fraternal organizations,  two  civic                                                             
organizations,  two boroughs, and  six cities  in Alaska and  Texas                                                             
have  adopted   the  Honor  and  Remember   flag.  He  noted   that                                                             
nationally,   36   organizations,   including   NASCAR,   Goodyear,                                                             
Spartan,  Sargento, Norwegian  Cruise  Line, GEICO  Insurance,  and                                                             
USAA, support Honor and Remember through ongoing sponsorship.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:35:49 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. CASWELL  shared the story  of Tony Lutz,  who died in  December                                                             
2005.  His father,  George Lutz,  visited other  military  families                                                             
who had lost  loved ones and identified  two common concerns:  that                                                             
the sacrifice  of their loved  ones would not  be in vain and  that                                                             
their  sacrifice  would  not  be  forgotten.  Seeing   no  national                                                             
symbol to  honor this sacrifice,  George Lutz  conceived the  Honor                                                             
and Remember  flag. MR. C emphasized  that while the United  States                                                             
is  a  "nation  of  flags"     with  flags  for  states,   military                                                             
branches, and  various organizations    no single symbol exists  to                                                             
recognize the sacrifice of military service members.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CASWELL urged  the State  of  Alaska to  adopt the  Honor  and                                                             
Remember  flag  as  a  state  symbol,  aligning  with  House  Joint                                                             
Resolution 53  passed in 2010, which  called for national  adoption                                                             
of  the flag.  He stressed  that  adopting this  flag  as a  symbol                                                             
would  show the  families  of  fallen service  members  that  their                                                             
loved ones  are not forgotten and  that their sacrifice is  honored                                                             
as part of the freedoms Americans enjoy daily.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:38:43 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DUNBAR  opened public testimony  on SB 174; finding none,  he                                                             
closed public testimony.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:39:53 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  CASWELL  stated  the  flags  are  personalized   by  adding  a                                                             
person's rank, name, date and place of death.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:40:13 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DUNBAR  noted that SB 174 lists  specific times, places,  and                                                             
days  for  displaying   the  Honor  and  Remember  and  Honor   and                                                             
Sacrifice flags.  He asked whether this  implies that the state  is                                                             
limited to  displaying the flags only  on those specified days.  He                                                             
acknowledged  that private citizens  can display  the flags at  any                                                             
time  under First  Amendment  rights but  questioned  if the  state                                                             
would be bound to follow the listed display schedule.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CASWELL  explained  that  the  word  "may"   was  included  to                                                             
highlight   significant  dates   for  displaying   the  Honor   and                                                             
Remember  and Honor  and Sacrifice  flags.  He clarified  that  the                                                             
flags can be  flown every day, but  the listed dates are preferred                                                              
for greater recognition and significance.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:41:13 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DUNBAR  stated that it  was good to  have on the legislative                                                              
record  that  the  list  of  dates  is  not  a  prohibition  or  an                                                             
exhaustive  list of  when  the flags  can  be flown.  He  suggested                                                             
discussing  offline  whether to  clarify  this in  the SB  174.  He                                                             
also mentioned  that he had  a specific day  in mind that he  would                                                             
like to  add to the  list. He asked  if the list  of display  dates                                                             
follows a  national standard  used by all  states or if individual                                                              
states   add   dates   that   hold   significance    within   their                                                             
communities.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CASWELL  replied that  the  dates  listed  in SB  174  are  of                                                             
national  importance.  He noted  that  there  is no  limitation  on                                                             
adding specific dates for the State of Alaska.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:42:07 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DUNBAR invited last remarks.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:42:25 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  BJORKMAN thanked  the  committee for  hearing  SB 174  and                                                             
considering the  adoption of the Honor  and Remember and Honor  and                                                             
Sacrifice  flags as  official  state symbols.  He  emphasized  that                                                             
the  flags honor  the  service  men and  women  who have  made  the                                                             
ultimate sacrifice while serving the country and their                                                                          
communities.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:42:58 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DUNBAR held SB 174 in committee.                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
DCCED-DCRA Local Boundary Comission Presentation to SCRA 4.4.24.pdf SCRA 4/4/2024 1:30:00 PM
Local Boundary Commisions
SB 174.pdf SCRA 4/4/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 174
SB 174 Sponsor Statement Ver B.pdf SCRA 4/4/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 174
SB 174 Support Document HJR 53 from 2010.pdf SCRA 4/4/2024 1:30:00 PM
HJR 53
SB 174
SB 174 Sectional Analysis Ver B.pdf SCRA 4/4/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 174
SB 174 Support Document TAPS Magazine H&R Article.pdf SCRA 4/4/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 174
SB 174 Support Document Resolutions of Support.pdf SCRA 4/4/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 174
SB 174 Letters of Support Rcvd by 032824.pdf SCRA 4/4/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 174
SB 174 Support Document Endorsements and Corporate Sponsors.pdf SCRA 4/4/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 174