Legislature(2023 - 2024)SENATE FINANCE 532

01/29/2024 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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*+ SB 170 EXTEND SENIOR BENEFITS PAYMENT PROGRAM TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
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SENATE BILL NO. 170                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act  extending the  Alaska senior  benefits payment                                                                    
     program; and providing for an effective date."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:49:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson relayed that it was the first hearing for SB
170.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:50:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOE HAYES, STAFF TO SENATOR SCOTT KAWASAKI, read from a                                                                         
Sponsor Statement (copy on file):                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Senate  Bill  170  would  extend  the  Senior  Benefits                                                                    
     program  to  2032,  ensuring  another  eight  years  of                                                                    
     support  for  low-income  seniors  across  Alaska.  The                                                                    
     successor to  the Longevity Bonus created  in 1972, the                                                                    
     Senior Benefits Program would end  in June 2024 without                                                                    
     legislative action.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     The   Senior  Benefits   Program  protects   low-income                                                                    
     seniors  by providing  them  with  modest monthly  cash                                                                    
     assistance  to pay  for  expenses  like food,  heating,                                                                    
     electricity,     transportation    and     prescription                                                                    
     medication.  The program  was established  in 2007  and                                                                    
     currently aids nearly 9,000 Alaskans  aged 65 and older                                                                    
     with  incomes at  75, 100  and 175  percent of  federal                                                                    
     poverty  level.  Subject   to  appropriation  from  the                                                                    
     Alaska  State Legislature,  assistance  can range  from                                                                    
     $76 to $250 a month for eligible seniors.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     In  September   2017,  the  House  Health   and  Social                                                                    
     Services Committee  held a statewide  listening session                                                                    
     for  Senior  Benefit  recipients and  their  advocates.                                                                    
     Hundreds  of Alaskans  spoke of  the  need to  preserve                                                                    
     this  program  to  enhance  their  way  of  life.  This                                                                    
     program  protects seniors  who  have  spent a  lifetime                                                                    
     building  our great  state.  It lends  a  hand to  low-                                                                    
     income seniors  who need assistance  to help  make ends                                                                    
     meet.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Terminating  this   program  would  put   thousands  of                                                                    
     seniors at  risk of losing their  means for maintaining                                                                    
     a  healthy  lifestyle.   I  respectfully  request  your                                                                    
     support to continue this vital program.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  thought the arguments Mr.  Hayes made were                                                                    
quite valid and  that the program needed to  be extended. He                                                                    
suggested  that  instead  of delaying  it  for  another  six                                                                    
years, the  committee might want to  put a period on  line 7                                                                    
after  the  word  repeal,   in  order  to make  the  program                                                                    
permanent. He  understood that the  bill was put  into place                                                                    
as a replacement program.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Hayes  thought Co-Chair Hoffman  had an  excellent idea.                                                                    
He noted  that Senator  Kawasaki had been  a sponsor  of the                                                                    
bill  in  2017,  and  would support  extending  the  program                                                                    
fully.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilson wondered  if  the bill  could  clean up  the                                                                    
statute. He thought there were  dueling statutes between the                                                                    
Longevity Bonus and the Senior Benefits Program.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Hayes did  not believe the sponsor would  have any issue                                                                    
with Senator Wilson's suggestion.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:54:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GRIFFEN  SUKKAEW,  STAFF  FOR  SEN.  KAWASAKI,  addressed  a                                                                    
Sectional Analysis (copy on file):                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 7                                                                                                             
     Deletes "2024" and replaces with "2032"                                                                                    
     Page 1, Line 8                                                                                                             
     The   Act    takes   effect   immediately    under   AS                                                                    
     01.10.070(c).                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Sukkaew  relayed that as  of December 2023,  the program                                                                    
aided more  than 10,000  Alaska seniors  aged 65  and older.                                                                    
The benefit was based on  income at 75 percent, 100 percent,                                                                    
and 175  percent of the  federal poverty level.  By statute,                                                                    
those that qualified received benefits  ranging from $125 to                                                                    
$250  per   month  subject  to   legislative  appropriation.                                                                    
Because of  constrained budget in recent  years, the highest                                                                    
tier currently  received $76 per  month instead of  $125 per                                                                    
month. Qualifying seniors must be  residents of the state, a                                                                    
citizen  of the  United  States, or  a  qualified alien  and                                                                    
could   not  be   incarcerated  at   a  private   or  public                                                                    
institution or a  resident of a nursing  home, Pioneer Home,                                                                    
or Alaska Veterans Home.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Sukkaew  continued that income eligibility  was based on                                                                    
gross annual  income before taxes.  Assets were  not counted                                                                    
towards income. He  cited the number of  participants in the                                                                    
program, and  noted that more  figures were in  the document                                                                    
entitled  "Senior Benefits  Fact Sheet"  (copy on  file). He                                                                    
asserted that the  program had a long  bipartisan history of                                                                    
protecting  seniors who  had spent  a lifetime  building the                                                                    
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:57:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VALERIE  ROSE,  FISCAL  ANALYST,  FISCAL  NOTE  COORDINATOR,                                                                    
LEGISLATIVE FINANCE  DIVISION, spoke  to a fiscal  note from                                                                    
the Department  of Health, OMB Component  2897. Beginning in                                                                    
FY 25, the department would be  funded at a level that would                                                                    
allow  them  to provide  full  funding  of the  benefits  as                                                                    
allocated in statute to the  three-tiered income levels. She                                                                    
reiterated that  in recent years the  highest-level tier had                                                                    
been funded  at $76  per month rather  than $125  per month,                                                                    
although  the other  tiers  had been  funded  at the  amount                                                                    
allocated in statute.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman asked  about federal  poverty limits,  and                                                                    
asked if  the limits took a  cost-of-living allowance (COLA)                                                                    
into account.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rose did not have the information.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Kiehl  asked  if  Ms.  Rose  could  help  with  the                                                                    
discrepancy  between the  fiscal note  and the  department's                                                                    
Senior Benefits fact sheet. He  thought one identified about                                                                    
140,000  participants  a  year, and  one  identified  11,000                                                                    
participants per year.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rose  thought the  question would  be best  addressed by                                                                    
the department.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:59:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARGE  STONEKING, ASSOCIATE  DIRECTOR OF  ADVOCACY, AMERICAN                                                                    
ASSOCIATION    OF    RETIRED   PERSONS,    ANCHORAGE    (via                                                                    
teleconference), explained that  the American Association of                                                                    
Retired  Persons  (AARP)   was  a  non-partisan,  non-profit                                                                    
member organization serving the  age 50-plus population. She                                                                    
relayed that AARPs  purpose was  to empower people to choose                                                                    
how they lived as they aged,  and it had a strong commitment                                                                    
to  protecting financial  resilience for  older adults.  She                                                                    
identified that some seniors in  the state needed assistance                                                                    
to  remain independent.  She noted  that  programs like  the                                                                    
Senior  Assistance Program  helped seniors  remain in  their                                                                    
homes and communities and to  stay out of more costly levels                                                                    
of care.  She cited  that those  seniors that  qualified for                                                                    
the largest  senior benefit amount  of $250 per  month could                                                                    
have income of no greater than $1,139 per month.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Stoneking  cited that  in  Alaska,  the average  Social                                                                    
Security retired  worker benefit  was $1,485 per  month. The                                                                    
older Alaskans most  likely to benefit from  an extension of                                                                    
the  program were  women. Historically  the majority  of the                                                                    
beneficiaries  of the  program were  women, who  earned less                                                                    
over  the course  of their  lives, made  up the  majority of                                                                    
family  caregivers, and  often  outlived  male spouses.  She                                                                    
discussed lower wage workers and  the high cost of living in                                                                    
the state. She mentioned rural  Alaska, and those that lived                                                                    
a subsistence  lifestyle. The loss  of the  benefits program                                                                    
would hurt  many older  Alaskans living  in remote  areas of                                                                    
the state. She  cited that the states   oldest citizens were                                                                    
the most  likely to spend  the most on  increased healthcare                                                                    
costs,  which could  result  in  financial instability.  She                                                                    
asserted that  any loss of  income to the  senior population                                                                    
could result in loss of independence.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:03:33 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DEB ETHERIDGE, DIVISION OF  PUBLIC ASSISTANCE, DEPARTMENT OF                                                                    
HEALTH, introduced herself.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl wanted to clarify  how many Alaskans benefited                                                                    
from  the program.  He  thought the  fact  sheet showed  one                                                                    
number of  participants and the fiscal  note showed another.                                                                    
He  asked  how  many  Alaskans  were  participating  in  the                                                                    
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Etheridge  relayed that there  were over  11,000 Alaskan                                                                    
seniors on the program.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl mentioned the  federal poverty level threshold                                                                    
and asked if the amount varied  by the area of the state and                                                                    
cost of living.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Etheridge relayed  that the  federal poverty  level was                                                                    
adjusted  every  year,  and  the  Senior  Benefit  was  then                                                                    
adjusted, but not necessarily by region.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SB 170 was HEARD and HELD for further consideration.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 127 Americand For Tax Reform Opposition .pdf SFIN 1/29/2024 9:00:00 AM
SB 127
AARP Supports Senior Benefits Reauthorization.pdf SFIN 1/29/2024 9:00:00 AM
SB 170
SB 170 DOH SBPP 012224.pdf SFIN 1/29/2024 9:00:00 AM
SB 170
SB 170 Sectional Analysis. 1.12.24.pdf SFIN 1/29/2024 9:00:00 AM
SB 170
SB 170 Sponsor Statement 1.12.24.pdf SFIN 1/29/2024 9:00:00 AM
SB 170
Senior Benefits Fact Sheet.pdf SFIN 1/29/2024 9:00:00 AM
SB 170