Legislature(2023 - 2024)ADAMS 519
05/14/2024 09:00 AM House FINANCE
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| SB151 | |
| SB34 | |
| SB183 | |
| Adjourn |
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= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
| + | SB 151 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| + | SB 183 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| += | SB 34 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| + | TELECONFERENCED |
CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 151(FIN)
"An Act relating to police officer training;
establishing the Missing and Murdered Indigenous
Persons Review Commission; relating to missing and
murdered indigenous persons; relating to the duties of
the Department of Public Safety; and providing for an
effective date."
9:07:24 AM
Co-Chair Foster noted that Senator Donny Olson, Co-Chair
Edgmon, Co-Chair Johnson, and Representative Ortiz were all
currently attending a conference committee meeting. He
relayed that the bill had previously been heard by the
committee. He asked for a brief review of the legislation.
ALMERIA ALCANTRA, STAFF, SENATOR DONNY OLSON, provided a
brief introduction of the bill. She clarified that the bill
had not yet been heard by the House Finance Committee, but
the committee had previously heard the companion
legislation (HB 234, sponsored by Representative CJ
McCormick) at the end of April. She offered to provide an
explanation of the differences between the two pieces of
legislation.
Co-Chair Foster asked for a brief overview of the bill
including the differences.
Ms. Alcantra relayed that SB 151 required cultural training
for all law enforcement officers and required the
Department of Public Safety (DPS) to submit missing persons
information to the National Missing and Unidentified
Persons database within 60 days of the first report filed
with local law enforcement. She noted that the same
requirement in HB 234 was set at 30 days [of the first
report filed with local law enforcement]. The Senate bill
put two missing and murdered indigenous persons (MMIP)
investigators into statute whereas HB 234 included four
MMIP investigators. She elaborated that SB 151 established
the MMIP review commission under DPS. She detailed that the
commission would be comprised of nine members and was
tasked with reviewing unresolved cases from different state
regions to make recommendations to enhance coordination and
reduce instances of violence. She noted that SB 151 did not
contain a sunset date for the commission whereas HB 234
contained a sunset date of January 1, 2027, which coincided
with requirement of a legislative report. She noted that SB
151 required a legislative report every three years. The
Senate bill also included a needs assessment submission
date for DPS by January 1, 2027. She believed the date in
HB 234 was January 1, 2026. Language had been added to SB
151 to set term lengths for public members and to stagger
the term dates initially.
9:10:31 AM
Co-Chair Foster OPENED public testimony.
Co-Chair Foster CLOSED public testimony.
Co-Chair Foster asked for a review of the fiscal note from
the Department of Public Safety.
LISA PURINTON, DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF STATEWIDE SERVICES AND
ACTING LEGISLATIVE LIAISON, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY,
reviewed the fiscal note OMB component 2325 dated 4/19/24.
The costs in FY 25 were $563,100. She detailed that costs
were higher in the first year because it included the
position needed to support the nine-person commission
within DPS. She noted that the startup costs for the
position included setting up computers and a workstation.
There were one-time costs for contract work associated with
a requirement for DPS to take on a needs assessment for
investigative and protective resources on a statewide
basis. She explained the needs assessment was pretty
comprehensive and the department was estimating fairly
significant costs for a contractor to do a project plan,
stakeholder engagement, travel and meeting schedules, data
collection analysis, interim reports, community outreach,
needs assessments, invoicing, and presentation with final
recommendations for the commission to consider. She noted
that the governor's FY 25 budget request included funding
for two of four MMIP investigator positions to ensure all
four existing positions were fully funded. She relayed that
outyear costs were associated with the one position added
to support the commission.
9:13:52 AM
Representative Hannan directed a question to DPS. She
looked at the reporting timeline for local notification in
Section 2. She noted that SB 151 included a timeline of 60
days whereas HB 234 had 30 days. She asked if the 30-day
timeframe was manageable and doable.
Ms. Purinton answered that law enforcement entered missing
and murdered persons information into several databases.
The statewide system was for law enforcement (it was not
public) and the information was also fed into the Federal
Bureau of Investigation's (FBI) national database of
missing person records. She noted that the records were
entered within 24 hours and within two hours for
individuals under the age of 21. The National Missing and
Unidentified Persons (NamUs) database was public.
Additionally, DPS housed the Missing Persons Clearinghouse,
which took copies of all missing person records (not only
trooper cases). She elaborated that the Missing Persons
Clearinghouse and the local agency that input the records
were notified from the FBI system when the records had been
in the system for over 30 days. She explained that at the
30-day mark the Missing Persons Clearinghouse did the
outreach with local agencies and would also put the record
into the NamUs database.
Ms. Purinton estimated that about 98 percent of all missing
person records in the state (about 1,300) were entered into
the NamUs database. She explained that DPS was currently
doing the work, but the 60-day mark ensured the department
would come into compliance with the statutory requirement
to meet the timeline because it allowed the department to
leverage the automatic notice that came in from the FBI's
law enforcement database. The department was getting the
trooper cases into the system quickly, but for other law
enforcement agencies, especially smaller ones without many
missing persons, the timeline provided them the benefit and
support of the Missing Persons Clearinghouse to make sure
that if they were not meeting the requirement to get into
NamUs, the clearinghouse would work with agencies to get a
record into the NamUs database. The department's preference
was the 60-day mark because it allowed DPS to leverage
existing technology and the existing process. The NamUs
database was meant for long-term missing persons.
9:17:08 AM
Representative Hannan highlighted that legislators hear
from constituents about the importance of making sure law
enforcement was treating a case seriously and taking
immediate action. She stated her understanding that the
department was acting quickly, but it was the communication
with the national NamUs system that required the "trickle
up" effect; therefore, 60 days was preferred. However, she
believed that notification within the state was coming out
within 30 days between a local police department or a
Village Public Safety Officer (VPSO) and DPS at the state
level.
Ms. Purinton agreed. She explained that the information was
going into law enforcement databases as soon as the reports
came into law enforcement. She clarified that she was not
saying agencies were waiting until the 60 days, they could
put the information into to the public NamUs database right
away. However, some agencies may not have the capacity to
put the information into other system. The 60 days allowed
a safety net for the Missing Persons Clearinghouse to
support them and do the follow up in case it had not been
done already.
Representative Hannan looked at Section 3 where SB 151 had
two [investigator] positions and HB 234 had four. She asked
if all four positions were funded in the budget.
Ms. Purinton answered there were currently four filled MMIP
investigator positions. The positions were filled with
retired troopers who had investigative experience. She
noted that the troopers currently had a staffing shortage.
She explained that the strategy made sure DPS had enough
investigative resources spread out throughout the
department. She relayed that the commissioner [Commissioner
Cockrell] had been vocal in support of the bill, in support
of the four positions, and in support of continuing the
work. She explained that if one of the investigator
positions became vacant it would take DPS time to refill
it. The intention was to continue to have at least four of
the [investigator] positions at all times.
Co-Chair Foster noted that Co-Chair Edgmon had joined the
meeting from conference committee.
Ms. Alcantra thanked the committee for hearing the bill.
9:20:06 AM
Representative Stapp MOVED to REPORT CSSB 151(FIN) out of
committee with individual recommendations and the
accompanying fiscal note.
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.
CSSB 151(FIN) was REPORTED out of committee with eight "do
pass" recommendations and with one previously published
fiscal impact note: FN2 (DPS).
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| HB 275 Public Testimony Rec'd by 051424.pdf |
HFIN 5/14/2024 9:00:00 AM |
HB 275 |
| SB151 Public Testimony Rec'd by 051424.pdf |
HFIN 5/14/2024 9:00:00 AM |
SB 151 |