Legislature(2025 - 2026)BUTROVICH 205

04/11/2025 03:30 PM Senate RESOURCES

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03:30:44 PM Start
03:32:08 PM SB114
03:34:05 PM SB130
03:38:08 PM SB135
03:50:09 PM Confirmation Hearing(s): Big Game Commercial Services Board
04:09:54 PM SB128
04:29:24 PM SB139
04:56:48 PM SJR19
05:01:09 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Consideration of Governor’s Appointees: TELECONFERENCED
Big Game Commercial Services Board
-- Public Testimony --
+= SB 128 CREATE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
*+ SB 139 LAND; OWNERSHIP RESTRICTIONS; AG LAND TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
*+ SJR 19 ANWR & NAT'L PETRO RESERVE: STATE SHARE TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
+= SB 114 GAS PIPELINE FAIRBANKS SPUR TELECONFERENCED
Moved SB 114 Out of Committee
+= SB 130 FISHERIES PROD DEVELOPMENT TAX CREDIT TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 130(RES) Out of Committee
+= SB 135 REFUND OF FISH BUSINESS TAX TO MUNIS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 135(RES) Out of Committee
          SB 135-REFUND OF FISH BUSINESS TAX TO MUNIS                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:38:08 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL announced the consideration  of SENATE BILL NO. 135                                                               
"An  Act  relating  to  the  sharing  of  tax  revenue  from  the                                                               
fisheries  business tax  and fishery  resource  landing tax  with                                                               
municipalities; relating  to municipal reports on  the shared tax                                                               
revenue; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:38:25 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL solicited a motion.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:38:33 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES moved to adopt Amendment 1, work order 34-                                                                       
LS0768\A.1.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                               34-LS0768\A.1                                                                    
                                                     Bullard                                                                    
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                          AMENDMENT  1                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED IN THE SENATE                    BY SENATOR HUGHES                                                                 
          TO:  SB 135                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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       "* Sec. 6. AS 43.75.130 is amended by adding a new                                                                   
     subsection to read:                                                                                                        
          (i)  A municipality that receives a payment under                                                                     
         this section shall use 10 percent of the funds                                                                         
       received under this section to support or enhance                                                                        
     commercial fishing."                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
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          "(g)  A municipality that receives a payment                                                                          
      under this section shall use 10 percent of the funds                                                                      
       received under this section to support or enhance                                                                        
     commercial fishing.                                                                                                        
       * Sec. 17. AS 43.75.130(i) and AS 43.77.060(g) are                                                                     
     repealed."                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
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3:38:36 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL objected for purposes of discussion.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:38:39 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  HUGHES  acknowledged   previous  testimony  from  Alaska                                                               
Marine Lines (AML) that requested  freedom for communities to use                                                               
the  tax collected  as  they  see fit.  She  said that  community                                                               
revenue sharing addresses  this. She pointed out that  SB 135 was                                                               
brought forward  by the Seafood  Industry Task Force to  help the                                                               
industry. She opined  that it is important to  ensure those funds                                                               
are used to benefit the  industry. She explained that Amendment 1                                                               
would require that 10 percent of  the funds (rather than the full                                                               
60  percent the  communities receive)  be used  on projects  that                                                               
directly benefit the seafood industry.  She stated that Amendment                                                               
1  does  not include  an  additional  reporting requirement.  She                                                               
explained that  she attempted to  keep the language  broad enough                                                               
to allow for general application  by inland communities (e.g. the                                                               
funds could be used for a road to the airport).                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGHES reiterated that Amendment  1 is intended to ensure                                                               
that the funds received from the  tax credit are used on projects                                                               
directly  related to  the  seafood industry.  She  said that  the                                                               
fishing industry  requested SB 135 to  increase community support                                                               
for the industry.  She opined that it is important  to honor that                                                               
request.  She pointed  out that  the commercial  fishing industry                                                               
faces  seasonal uncertainties;  therefore, community  support for                                                               
the  industry is  important.  She recalled  that  the tax  credit                                                               
distribution  was previously  10  percent to  communities and  90                                                               
percent  to  the   State  of  Alaska.  She   indicated  that  the                                                               
distribution later changed to a  50/50 split. SB 135 would adjust                                                               
this  even  further, giving  60  percent  to communities  and  40                                                               
percent to the  state. She acknowledged that the  State of Alaska                                                               
is  experiencing  fiscal  strain;  however,  she  indicated  that                                                               
supporting the seafood industry is a positive investment.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:40:47 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR  expressed a willingness  to support  Amendment 1.                                                               
He  recalled   his  experience   growing  up   around  commercial                                                               
fishermen in Cordova  and surmised that they  would encourage him                                                               
to support this  amendment. He directed attention  to the phrase,                                                               
"to support or  enhance commercial fishing" and  stated that this                                                               
language offers a broad interpretation.  He offered an example to                                                               
illustrate how the fishing  industry benefits from infrastructure                                                               
that  may seem  unrelated.  He expressed  hope  that Amendment  1                                                               
would   be  interpreted   broadly  and   that  this   would  give                                                               
communities  flexibility.  He  pointed  out  that  the  amendment                                                               
applies  to  ten percent  of  the  60 percent  communities  would                                                               
receive, which is a relatively  small amount. He stated that, for                                                               
those reasons,  he would  support Amendment 1.  He added  that he                                                               
would offer two amendments that may address the concerns of AML.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:42:47 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL  invited the  sponsor  of  SB  135 to  comment  on                                                               
Amendment 1.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:42:56 PM                                                                                                                    
TIM   LAMKIN,  Staff,   Senator   Gary   Stevens,  Alaska   State                                                               
Legislature, Juneau, Alaska, said the  sponsor does not object to                                                               
Amendment 1 or to any forthcoming amendments.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:43:09 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL  removed  her  objection.  She  found  no  further                                                               
objection and [Amendment 1] was adopted.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:43:18 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL solicited a motion.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:43:20 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DUNBAR moved  to  adopt [Amendment  2],  work order  34-                                                               
LS0768\A.2.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                               34-LS0768\A.2                                                                    
                                              Nauman/Bullard                                                                    
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                          AMENDMENT  2                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED IN THE SENATE                    BY SENATOR DUNBAR                                                                 
          TO:  SB 135                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 9, following "facilities":                                                                                    
          Insert ", if the municipality operates harbor                                                                         
     facilities"                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Page 5, line 5, following "AS 43.75.130 - 43.75.137":                                                                      
          Insert ", if the municipality operates a harbor"                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Page 8, line 30, following "revenue":                                                                                      
          Insert ", if the municipality operates a harbor"                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:43:26 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL objected for purposes of discussion.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:43:28 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR said  that Amendment 2 is in  response to concerns                                                               
brought forward by  AML relating to communities  that receive the                                                               
tax  credit but  do not  have harbor  facilities. He  stated that                                                               
this amendment would  add language to specify the  intent for the                                                               
funds  if a  community has  harbor facilities.  If the  community                                                               
does not have  harbor facilities, the funds can be  used in other                                                               
ways.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:44:07 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL  removed  her  objection;  she  found  no  further                                                               
objection and [Amendment 2] was adopted.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:44:18 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL solicited a motion.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:44:23 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DUNBAR  moved  to  adopt Amendment  3,  work  order  34-                                                               
LS0768\A.3.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                               34-LS0768\A.3                                                                    
                                             Wallace/Bullard                                                                    
                                                     4/10/25                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                          AMENDMENT  3                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED IN THE SENATE                    BY SENATOR DUNBAR                                                                 
          TO:  SB 135                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
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          Insert "Except as provided in (c) of this                                                                             
     section, not"                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
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          "(c)  A report is not required under this section                                                                     
     if 10 percent of the total tax revenue a municipality                                                                      
      receives under AS 43.75.130 - 43.75.137 is less than                                                                      
     $1,000."                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
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          "(g)  A report is not required under this section                                                                     
     if 10 percent of the total tax revenue a municipality                                                                      
     receives under this section is less than $1,000."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:44:25 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL objected for purposes of discussion.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:44:27 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DUNBAR  expressed  concerns  regarding  the  wording  of                                                               
Amendment  3.  He  said  he  would like  to  offer  a  conceptual                                                               
amendment to Amendment 3.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:44:46 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DUNBAR explained  that  the  conceptual amendment  would                                                               
correct a  drafting error that  resulted from  a miscommunication                                                               
between  himself,  Alaska  Marine Lines  (AML),  and  Legislative                                                               
Legal Services.  He briefly discussed  the error in  Amendment 3.                                                               
He pointed out that $1,000  is ten percent of $10,000; therefore,                                                               
the language could be simplified to "is less than $10,000."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:45:14 PM                                                                                                                    
[SENATOR  DUNBAR  moved  to  adopt   Conceptual  Amendment  1  to                                                               
Amendment 3.]                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
             CONCEPTUAL AMENDMENT 1 to AMENDMENT 3                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
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[CHAIR GIESSEL objected for purposes of discussion.]                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:45:42 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR  explained the intent behind  Conceptual Amendment                                                               
1 to Amendment 3. He emphasized  that reports are costly and take                                                               
time. Some communities  receive a very small amount  from the tax                                                               
credit (in some cases as  little as $300). For those communities,                                                               
the  cost  of  writing  a  report  is  greater  than  the  amount                                                               
received. He  surmised that  $10,000 is  a reasonable  cutoff for                                                               
the  reporting requirement.  He pointed  out that  this is  a new                                                               
reporting requirement.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:46:37 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL  directed attention to  lines 14-17 of  Amendment 3                                                               
and  asked whether  the conceptual  amendment changes  would also                                                               
apply to that section.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:46:46 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR  replied yes. He  clarified that the  same changes                                                               
would  be  made  to  both  sections  (lines  7-8  and  16-17)  of                                                               
Amendment  3.  This  would  remove "10  percent  of"  and  change                                                               
"$1,000" to "$10,000" in both sections.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:47:02 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN agreed that some  communities receive a very small                                                               
amount  from the  tax  credit.  He recalled  the  change made  by                                                               
Amendment 1  and asked whether  designating how the money  can be                                                               
spent is  necessary for  communities that  only receive  $100. He                                                               
opined that it  is reasonable for larger  amounts (e.g. $10,000).                                                               
He briefly  discussed the anti-dedicated funds  provisions in the                                                               
Constitution of  the State  of Alaska.  He acknowledged  that his                                                               
comments are  not directly  related to  Amendment 3;  however, he                                                               
shared that the discussion of  Amendment 3 (which emphasizes that                                                               
some  communities  receive  small  amounts  and  therefore  would                                                               
remove  the  reporting  requirement) has  brought  up  additional                                                               
questions regarding the need for Amendment 1.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:47:52 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR replied that there is  a push and pull between the                                                               
desire to  give communities  the maximum  flexibility to  use the                                                               
funds while ensuring communities  spend the funds responsibly. He                                                               
agreed that  the legislature cannot  dedicate funds;  however, he                                                               
suggested  that   intent  language  is  useful.   He  shared  his                                                               
understanding that similar intent  language is already in statute                                                               
(e.g. intent language related to the alcohol tax).                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GIESSEL brought the discussion back to Amendment 3.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DUNBAR encouraged support of Amendment 3.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
[The committee treated  Conceptual Amendment 1 to  Amendment 3 as                                                               
adopted.]                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:48:46 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL  removed  her  objection   to  [Amendment  3],  as                                                               
amended.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GIESSEL  found no further  objection and [Amendment  3], as                                                               
amended, was adopted.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:49:20 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL  opened public testimony  on SB 135;  finding none,                                                               
she closed public testimony.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:49:34 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL solicited the will of the committee.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:49:37 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI moved  to  report SB  135,  work order  34-                                                               
LS0786\A,   as   amended,    from   committee   with   individual                                                               
recommendations   and   attached    fiscal   note(s).   He   gave                                                               
authorization for  Legislative Legal  Services to  make technical                                                               
and conforming changes.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:49:52 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL found  no objection and CSSB  135(RES) was reported                                                               
from the Senate Resources Standing Committee.                                                                                   

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Big Game Commercial Services (AS 08.54.150, Sec. 08.54.591- 08.54.600) .pdf SRES 4/11/2025 3:30:00 PM
Statutes and Regulations Big Game Commercial Services Board.pdf SRES 4/11/2025 3:30:00 PM
Aaron Bloomquist Big Game Comm Resume_Redacted.pdf SRES 4/11/2025 3:30:00 PM
Keegan McCarthy Big Game App_Redacted.pdf SRES 4/11/2025 3:30:00 PM
Keegan McCarthy Big Game Resume_Redacted.pdf SRES 4/11/2025 3:30:00 PM
Martin Boniek Big Game Comm App_Redacted.pdf SRES 4/11/2025 3:30:00 PM
Martin Boniek Big Game Resume_Redacted.pdf SRES 4/11/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 128 Amendment N.3.pdf SRES 4/11/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 128
SB 128 Amendment N.2.pdf SRES 4/11/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 128
SB 135 Amendment A.2.pdf SRES 4/11/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 135
SB 135 Amendment A.1.pdf SRES 4/11/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 135
SB 139 v. I.pdf SRES 4/11/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 139
SB 139 Sponsor Statement.pdf SRES 4/11/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 139
SB 139 Sectional Analysis.pdf SRES 4/11/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 139
SB 139 Protecting Alaska’s Land and Security.pdf SRES 4/11/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 139
SJR 19 Sponsor Statement Version G.pdf SRES 4/11/2025 3:30:00 PM
SJR 19
SJR 19 Support Document - Alaska Statehood Act Excerpt.pdf SRES 4/11/2025 3:30:00 PM
SJR 19
SJR 19 Support Document - 1993 Atty Gen Cole OpEd.pdf SRES 4/11/2025 3:30:00 PM
SJR 19
SJR 19 Support Document - DOI Secretary's Order 3422.pdf SRES 4/11/2025 3:30:00 PM
SJR 19
SJR 19 Support Document - Mineral Leasing Act Excerpt.pdf SRES 4/11/2025 3:30:00 PM
SJR 19
SJR 19 Support Document - Unleashing Alaska's Extraordinary Resource Potential.pdf SRES 4/11/2025 3:30:00 PM
SJR 19
SJR19-LEG-SESS-04-10-2025.pdf SRES 4/11/2025 3:30:00 PM
SJR 19
SJR 19 Ver G.pdf SRES 4/11/2025 3:30:00 PM
SJR 19
SB 128 Amendment N.7.pdf SRES 4/11/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 128