Legislature(2011 - 2012)BUTROVICH 205
04/07/2011 09:00 AM Senate STATE AFFAIRS
| Audio | Topic |
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| Start | |
| SB117 | |
| HCR7 | |
| HB3 | |
| Adjourn |
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
| *+ | SB 117 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| + | HB 3 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| + | HCR 7 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| + | TELECONFERENCED |
SB 117-PFD ALLOWABLE ABSENCE: MILITARY
9:03:05 AM
CHAIR WIELECHOWSKI announced the first order of business would
be SB 117. This bill would enable Alaskans who join the military
and are deployed out of state to continue receiving Permanent
Fund Dividend checks while serving in the armed forces.
Currently long-term Alaskans who have every intention of
returning to the state are denied their PFDs after ten years.
CHAIR WIELECHOWSKI asked for a motion to adopt the proposed,
version M, committee substitute (CS).
SENATOR PASKVAN moved to adopt the proposed CS for SB 117,
labeled 27-LS0768\M, as the working document.
CHAIR WIELECHOWSKI objected for discussion purposes and asked
his staff to provide an overview of the bill.
9:04:13 AM
MICHAEL CAULFIELD, Staff to Senator Wielechowski, said that as
any Alaskan knows, one of the great benefits of living in the
state is the yearly PFD payment. Most would agree that the PFD
should not be withheld from those with a legitimate reason to be
gone from the state with every intention of returning. Thus, the
state has exemptions for residents absent for reasons like
school, medical treatment, or military service. These exemptions
have a sunset date of ten years, as most people gone for that
long do not intend to return to Alaska. However, some jobs
require people to be gone from the state for longer than 10
years. One of them is congressional service. Alaska's
congressional delegation has to live in Washington D.C. and the
statutes allow for them to receive PFDs past that ten-year
limit.
Another job where Alaskans may not be able to return home for
long periods of time is the military. Members of the armed
forces can't choose where to be stationed, and if they make a
career of the military they may be gone for over ten years.
These brave men and women make great sacrifices to protect us
all, and the least we can do is to make sure they still receive
their PFDs. Senate Bill 117 will provide an exemption for
Alaskan soldiers who are gone for over ten years, just like our
congressional delegation.
MR. CAULFIELD then reviewed the changes in the CS. On page 2,
lines 1-5 require that the soldier receiving the PFD was
actually in the state for three years prior to joining the
military, unless gone for an allowable reason. Lines 6-11
provide a severability clause.
9:06:07 AM
CHAIR WIELECHOWSKI noted there is a legal opinion on the
constitutionality of the bill.
DEBORAH BITNEY, Director, Permanent Fund Dividend Division,
Department of Revenue (DOR), said she was available for
questions.
CHAIR WIELECHOWSKI said he has had several constituents raise
this issue with him. Alaskans who are deployed for long periods
of time have problems getting their PFD checks.
9:07:39 AM
SENATOR KOOKESH joined the meeting.
CHAIR WIELECHOWSKI asked how many complaints he's heard.
MS. BITNEY answered probably less than 30, but they were
extremely loud.
SENATOR GIESSEL asked if most were related to military service.
MS. BITNEY answered yes, all were from military members. Most
people who are gone from the state for that length of time are
military.
SENATOR GIESSEL asked if Ms. Bitney had any information about
people within the military who are absent more than 10 years and
who do return to become permanent residents.
MS. BITNEY answered they are researching this question. Her
initial findings were that 78 people this year reside in Alaska
and at some point since 1990 had 10 years or more of absences,
and at least one of those years was for military purposes. She
said being more specific would require more research.
9:10:20 AM
CHRIS POAG, Assistant Attorney General, Department of Law (DOL),
PFD Division, said there is a constitutional concern with this
bill. There's risk of an unequal protection challenge when a
class of residents is broken into new residents and long-term
residents. In Sands v. Roe, which involved welfare benefits for
California residents, new residents for the first year would
receive benefits from the state of origin, not from California.
The court said it was unconstitutional to create two classes of
residents and distribute benefits unequally.
An argument could be made that this bill does something along
those lines. PFD allowable absences include up to 180 days so
long as the intent to return is maintained. There are 16 special
exceptions allowing for absences in excess of 180 days. There
has to be some limit, so the legislature imposed a ten year cap
on allowable absences. It also created an exemption for members
of Congress, their staff, and spouses.
9:14:12 AM
After ten years of service or longer, they are likely to return.
This bill would create another exemption but splits military
allowable absences into two classes. This raises a risk of a
challenge similar to Zobel. DOL believes that the legislature
sees this as a category of people who are likely to return to
the state. DOL would support a lawsuit if the law were to be
challenged. Mr. Poag warned that if there is a constitutional
challenge, the legislature should make clear that it doesn't
want the ten-year rule to go away.
CHAIR WIELECHOWSKI opened public testimony.
TIKOT CROFOOT said he originally left Alaska to attend the Naval
Academy and has been an active duty SEAL for ten years. He is
currently preparing for another deployment to Afghanistan. Two
years ago he was denied his PDF, and has been denied ever since.
He believes that service members and their families are no less
deserving than our congressional delegation. The PFD does
penalize Alaska service members.
MR. CROFOOT said he lived in Alaska since age four, had unbroken
Alaska residency for 28 years, has voted in all elections and
has an Alaska driver's license. Alaska is listed as his home of
record, so the military will pay for him to return to Alaska
when he leaves the service, but not to another state. Both his
parents have been Alaskan residents since 1974. He owns property
in Alaska, and is part owner of a family business in Alaska. He
met all PFD requirements for eligibility prior to military
service. He met the requirements for his first ten years of
military service. Military members deserve the dividend even if
they are outside the state.
9:20:55 AM
MR. CROFOOT said he has heard people say that military members
are trying to milk the system by trying to receive the dividend
when they have resided in Alaska for very little time. It
actually costs him more to return to Alaska each year than he
receives from the dividend. He returns because Alaska is his
home. He urged the committee to support career military members
who intend to return to the state.
9:22:04 AM
CHAIR WIELECHOWSKI said Mr. Crofoot was a big reason why the
bill was brought forward.
SENATOR PASKVAN asked when he expected to retire.
MR. CROFOOT said he will be eligible after 20 years, but
regardless of when he retires, he will return to Alaska.
9:23:27 AM
TRACY ROSS said she was calling on behalf of her husband, Lt.
Colonel Brian Ross, who deployed to the Philippines and is
currently stationed in Okinawa. Alaskan residents who are career
military deserve equal protection under the law and should be
allowed to receive PFDs despite extended absence. Brian was born
in Alaska in 1972, and left in 1990 to attend the Naval Academy.
For the last 18 years he has served around the world. He has
always been registered to vote in Alaska. All his vehicles have
been titled, registered, and licensed in Alaska. He has
significant physical ties to Alaska; his parents and two
brothers live in Alaska. He owns cabins and land near Glenallen.
Their family has made dozens of trips to Alaska totaling over 80
days in the past five years.
MS. ROSS said her husband was first denied a PFD in 2008.
Nothing in his status had changed other than passing the
arbitrary ten year cap. He has filed a superior court judicial
review of his rejection. If he is not an Alaskan resident, then
where is his home? His home of record and state of legal
residence is the state the federal government expects him to
return home to. His home of record is Alaska. In 20 years of
military service he has never changed his home of record.
Despite living in six states and one foreign country, he has
always maintained paper and physical ties to Alaska.
MS. ROSS said that her husband intends to return to Alaska to
live permanently once he retires. Lifetime Alaskans and career
military personnel should continue to receive PFDs.
9:29:23 AM
RIC DAVIDGE, Anchorage, said he holds a number of leadership
positions in veteran organizations in Alaska. The Alaska
Veterans Political Action Committee and the Alaska Veteran's
Foundation have been asking for changes to the PFD status,
especially the ten year rule and the 72 hour rule because of the
cost of returning Alaska to maintain resident status.
Indications of intent to return should be considered. These
people were Alaskans prior to service and intend to be upon
their return. The bottom line is; why are there no exemptions
for military service as opposed to members of Congress, their
staff and spouses. At least, he said, recognize the service and
commitment of service members who intend to return. His son
spent four years active duty in Iraq as well as 8 years military
service. A number of times he had to assist his son to return to
Alaska for the 78 hour requirement.
9:32:10 AM
LISA KIRSCH, Attorney, Legislative Legal Services, said she was
available for questions.
CHAIR WIELECHOWSKI asked her to talk about her legal analysis of
the bill.
MS. KIRSCH said she couldn't really add much to what Mr. Poag
said. The crux of the problem is the three year residency
requirement within the bill. This splits a class of residents
into two groups, which creates an equal protection problem.
9:34:16 AM
CHAIR WIELECHOWSKI said he did not intend to move the bill
today; he wants to work through the constitutional issues. There
was some very compelling testimony. Perhaps home of record could
be included as an indication of eligibility.
SENATOR GIESSEL asked if this would automatically make the
military members' children eligible.
9:35:45 AM
MS. BITNEY said yes, the children are eligible if the military
member is the sponsor.
CHAIR WIELECHOWSKI asked her to comment on the issue of "home of
record."
MS. BITNEY responded any declaration of residency other than
Alaska automatically disqualifies the applicant.
SENATOR PASKVAN asked if there has been any constitutional
analysis of an exemption for those out of state while working
for a private company.
MS. BITNEY answered it would not be considered an allowable
absence if someone was out of state for private employment
purposes.
SENATOR KOOKESH said the distinction is that military personnel
are told where to live.
MS. BITNEY answered that was essentially correct.
9:38:17 AM
CHAIR WIELECHOWSKI closed public testimony and announced he
would hold SB 117 in committee.
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| HCR 7 version A.pdf |
SSTA 4/7/2011 9:00:00 AM |
HCR 7 |
| HCR 7 - Fiscal Note.pdf |
SSTA 4/7/2011 9:00:00 AM |
HCR 7 |
| HCR 7 - Sponsor Statement.pdf |
SSTA 4/7/2011 9:00:00 AM |
HCR 7 |
| HB 3 - Bill CS H State Affairs.pdf |
SSTA 4/7/2011 9:00:00 AM |
HB 3 |
| HB 3 - Fiscal Note.pdf |
SSTA 4/7/2011 9:00:00 AM |
HB 3 |
| HB 3 - Legal Opinion - Department of Law.pdf |
SSTA 4/7/2011 9:00:00 AM |
HB 3 |
| HB 3 - Sponsor Statement.pdf |
SSTA 4/7/2011 9:00:00 AM |
HB 3 |
| HB 3 - State by State Analysis.pdf |
SSTA 4/7/2011 9:00:00 AM |
HB 3 |
| HB 3 - Opposing Document - Conway.pdf |
SSTA 4/7/2011 9:00:00 AM SSTA 4/11/2012 9:00:00 AM SSTA 4/12/2012 9:00:00 AM |
HB 3 |
| SB 117 Allowable Absences.pdf |
SSTA 4/7/2011 9:00:00 AM |
SB 117 |
| SB 117 Changes to Version M.pdf |
SSTA 4/7/2011 9:00:00 AM |
SB 117 |
| SB 117 Legal Opinion - LAA Legal Services March 18 2011.pdf |
SSTA 4/7/2011 9:00:00 AM |
SB 117 |
| SB 117 Sponsor statement.pdf |
SSTA 4/7/2011 9:00:00 AM |
SB 117 |
| SB 117 Support Letter - Denali Borough.pdf |
SSTA 4/7/2011 9:00:00 AM |
SB 117 |
| SB 117 Alaskans Eligible for 10-Year Exemption.pdf |
SSTA 4/7/2011 9:00:00 AM |
SB 117 |