Legislature(2025 - 2026)BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)

03/25/2025 01:30 PM Senate COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS

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                 SB 111-DIGITAL PRODUCT REPAIR                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:42:00 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR   MERRICK  reconvened   the  meeting   and  announced   the                                                               
consideration  of SENATE  BILL NO.  111 "An  Act relating  to the                                                               
diagnosis, maintenance,  and repair of products  that use digital                                                               
electronics  to operate;  adding an  unlawful act  to the  Alaska                                                               
Unfair  Trade   Practices  and   Consumer  Protection   Act;  and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MERRICK  said this is the  second hearing of SB  111 in the                                                               
Senate Community and Regional Affairs  Committee. She invited the                                                               
bill  sponsor  to  comment  on the  bill  before  opening  public                                                               
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:42:19 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR  said his intention  is to introduce  an amendment                                                               
at  the  next hearing,  noting  that  some public  testimony  may                                                               
reference  medical  products  that  will  be  addressed  in  that                                                               
amendment. He  said his  office has received  a number  of emails                                                               
containing  claims  which are  not  connected  to what  the  bill                                                               
actually does.  SB 111  does not  limit the  ability of  shops to                                                               
sell parts,  though that has  been cited  as a critique.  He said                                                               
the goal  is to protect  consumers, owners, and  both independent                                                               
and  licensed   repair  shops  by  ensuring   broader  access  to                                                               
products. He  noted that amendments  will be presented  in future                                                               
hearings.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:43:23 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MERRICK opened public testimony on SB 111.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:43:45 PM                                                                                                                    
ALLEN  SCHAEFFER, Executive  Director,  Engine Technology  Forum,                                                               
Frederick, Maryland, testified  in opposition to SB  111. He said                                                               
among Engine  Technology Forum  members are  "on and  off" [road]                                                               
manufacturers of engines and equipment.  He said SB 111 is overly                                                               
broad and  would result in unintended  consequences, particularly                                                               
by  facilitating illegal  tampering with  emissions controls.  He                                                               
used off-road engines and equipment as an example.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SCHAEFFER  explained  that  for   the  past  10  years,  the                                                               
Environmental Protection  Agency (EPA) has required  new off-road                                                               
engines  and  equipment to  meet  near-zero  emissions under  the                                                               
federal Clean  Air Act.  Since 2014,  engines have  used advanced                                                               
computer  systems  to  manage combustion  and  rely  on  multiple                                                               
emission-control  technologies,  such   as  oxidation  catalysts,                                                               
particulate filters,  and selective catalytic  reduction systems,                                                               
to meet the standard.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:44:52 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SCHAEFFER  emphasized that right  to repair  legislation like                                                               
SB 111  is unnecessary. He  said manufacturers have  responded to                                                               
customer  requests and  entered into  memoranda of  understanding                                                               
(MOUs) in the  agricultural sector to provide  tools and training                                                               
needed  to  service  these systems  safely  and  responsibly.  He                                                               
expressed that these efforts are working.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. SCHAEFFER cautioned that SB  111 would increase air pollution                                                               
in Alaska by enabling tampering  with emissions systems. He noted                                                               
that  parts of  Alaska  are already  in  non-attainment for  fine                                                               
particle emissions.  He observed that some  operators dislike the                                                               
EPA requirements  because newer  tractors are more  complex, more                                                               
expensive,  and  sometimes  perceived  as  less  powerful.  As  a                                                               
result, some  individuals deliberately or accidentally  bypass or                                                               
disable emissions systems to save costs or boost performance.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SCHAEFFER cited  EPA enforcement  actions  as evidence  that                                                               
tampering  is  widespread.  He referenced  a  July  2023  consent                                                               
agreement  and final  order against  a  Fairbanks company,  which                                                               
paid  a $117,000  penalty for  installing 55  defeat devices  and                                                               
tampering with emissions controls on heavy-duty vehicles.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SCHAEFFER  expressed  his belief  that  for  these  reasons,                                                               
SB 111  would  harm Alaska  and  the  environment and  urged  the                                                               
committee to reject the bill.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:46:35 PM                                                                                                                    
CHUCK WINTERS, President, Airport  Equipment Rentals, Inc. - John                                                               
Deere Dealership,  Soldotna, Alaska,  testified in  opposition to                                                               
SB  111 in  its  current form.  He stated  that  his company  has                                                               
operated in  Alaska since  1986. It  has provided  rental, sales,                                                               
and  support for  construction, road  building, bridge,  utility,                                                               
and heavy-duty  handheld equipment. He said  the business employs                                                               
Alaskans in six locations and  sustains many good-paying careers.                                                               
He  expressed concern  that  SB 111  would  financially harm  his                                                               
business and jeopardize the prosperity of its employees.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. WINTERS argued  the expectations that SB 111 will  serve as a                                                               
quick fix for  product support needs are  misguided. He explained                                                               
that the bill's mandate on  service parts pricing would undermine                                                               
longstanding  contracts  with   original  equipment  manufacturer                                                               
(OEM) partners such as John  Deere and others. He emphasized that                                                               
the company has made significant  investments in customer support                                                               
resources, maintaining  inventory, application  expertise, timely                                                               
technical support, and consistent standards for product support.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. WINTERS said it is unreasonable  for the State to mandate the                                                               
sale of  repair parts to  independent providers and  customers at                                                               
the most  favorable price offered  to dealers. He  explained such                                                               
requirements  would undercut  dealerships, revenue  expectations,                                                               
and destabilize their annual budgets.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WINTERS said  he could  delve deep  into each  one of  these                                                               
points,  emphasizing   as  currently  written,  SB   111  is  "an                                                               
absolutely awful  bill" for  his company,  its OEM  partners, and                                                               
many other  businesses across  Alaska. He  expressed appreciation                                                               
for the committee's time.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:49:32 PM                                                                                                                    
KELLY  DROOP,  Alaska  Regional Manager,  Pape  Kenworth  Alaska,                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska, testified in opposition  to SB 111. She stated                                                               
that Pape  Kenworth operates semi-truck dealerships  in Anchorage                                                               
and Fairbanks, supporting customers  from Dutch Harbor to Prudhoe                                                               
Bay.  The company  also operates  Ditch Witch  West and  material                                                               
handling dealerships  in Alaska, providing utility  equipment and                                                               
Hyster  and   Yale  lift  trucks  across   many  industries.  She                                                               
cautioned  that  SB  111   would  have  far-reaching,  unintended                                                               
consequences  for   customer  service  and  safety   in  utility,                                                               
construction,   agriculture,   warehousing,  and   aerial   reach                                                               
equipment sectors.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS.   DROOP  explained   that   dealerships   are  obligated   by                                                               
manufacturers  to meet  high standards  for parts,  training, and                                                               
customer support. In  her 35-year career, she  has seen equipment                                                               
advance to  the point where  digital and electronic  expertise is                                                               
essential  to   maintain  fleets  safely  and   effectively.  She                                                               
emphasized  that Pape  Kenworth  carries millions  of dollars  in                                                               
parts  inventory and  invests heavily  in employee  training. She                                                               
said  this allows  the  company to  actively  support remote  and                                                               
local  customers with  the software  tools, parts,  and expertise                                                               
that  they need.  She  said the  company  helps troubleshoot  and                                                               
repair over  the phone  and in person  to provide  customers with                                                               
the tools,  expertise, and technical  support needed  to maximize                                                               
fleet uptime.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:50:52 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  DROOP argued  that  it is  unprecedented  to legislate  that                                                               
manufacturers provide  wholesale pricing directly  to independent                                                               
repair  providers  and  customers  who   do  not  bear  the  same                                                               
obligations  as  a  dealer network.  She  warned  that  mandating                                                               
wholesale  pricing would  cause irreparable  financial damage  to                                                               
dealerships,   which   provide   warranty   services,   technical                                                               
expertise, and local availability of  parts. She said such damage                                                               
would    ultimately   harm    customers   by    undermining   the                                                               
sustainability of dealer networks.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. DROOP  urged SB 111  be amended to exclude  off-road vehicles                                                               
and other  forms of equipment,  stating that  protecting Alaska's                                                               
dealerships  is essential  to keeping  them  open and  supporting                                                               
Alaskans.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:51:37 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DUNBAR  asked  whether   Pape  Kenworth  would  sell  to                                                               
independent repair shops  if it did not have  to charge wholesale                                                               
prices and what the markup would be.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS.  DROOP  replied  that  Pape Kenworth  already  does  so.  She                                                               
explained that  customers and  independent repair  shops purchase                                                               
software,  licensing,   and  tools  to  connect   to  trucks  and                                                               
equipment,  as well  as parts  from Pape  Kenworth. She  said the                                                               
market largely  drives those sales,  as shops have the  option to                                                               
purchase from other dealerships  based on price and availability,                                                               
both  critical  factors  in  Alaska  where  shipping  delays  are                                                               
common.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:52:32 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DUNBAR asked  whether  there are  any  cases where  Pape                                                               
Kenworth does not share software with independent repair shops.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. DROOP  responded that independent  repair shops  can purchase                                                               
Pape Kenworth's software to install  on their laptops and connect                                                               
to equipment. That is already available.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:53:10 PM                                                                                                                    
SCOTT  MUGRAGE, President,  Alaska Farm  Bureau, Delta  Junction,                                                               
Alaska, testified  in opposition  to SB 111.  He stated  that the                                                               
right to  repair has been  a longstanding issue for  farmers, and                                                               
the  Farm Bureau  sought private-sector  solutions. In  2023, the                                                               
American Farm  Bureau signed a memorandum  of understanding (MOU)                                                               
with John Deere, a historic  step, to ensure farmers and ranchers                                                               
could repair their tractors and  other equipment. Other MOUs were                                                               
signed  with Case  New Holland  (CNH), AGCO,  Kubota, and  CLAAS,                                                               
covering about three-quarters of  the U.S. agricultural machinery                                                               
market.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MUGRAGE  said  the  MOUs   allow  manufacturers  to  protect                                                               
intellectual  property  while  ensuring farmers  and  independent                                                               
repair shops can make reasonable  repairs. They provide access to                                                               
diagnostics, repair codes,  manufacturer manuals, product guides,                                                               
and diagnostic  tools, as well  as assistance in  ordering parts.                                                               
He emphasized  that when equipment  breaks during  Alaska's short                                                               
growing season,  major disruptions happen  on the farm,  which is                                                               
why it  is essential  for timely repairs.  Farmers must  have the                                                               
freedom to choose where repairs are made to control costs.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. MUGRAGE stressed that Alaskan  farmers are often thousands of                                                               
miles  from equipment  dealers,  making  travel impractical.  For                                                               
this reason, access to repair tools and resources is vital.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:56:03 PM                                                                                                                    
ROSE  FELICIANO,  Executive  Director   for  Washington  and  the                                                               
Northwest, TechNet, Seattle,  Washington, testified in opposition                                                               
to  SB 111.  She  said  TechNet  opposes  the  bill  because  the                                                               
definition  of  digital  product  is  incredibly broad.  The bill                                                               
defines it  as     product that depends  for its  functioning, in                                                               
whole or in part, on  digital electronics embedded in or attached                                                               
to the product.   She explained that most other  states that have                                                               
right to  repair legislation have focused  on consumer electronic                                                               
products  or they  have focused  on  agricultural equipment.  She                                                               
said SB  111 is drafted  way beyond those categories.  She stated                                                               
the wording  of SB  111 could actually  apply to  systems running                                                               
the electrical  grid, critical infrastructure,  and a  wide range                                                               
of products. She identified this as TechNet's primary concern.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. FELICIANO noted that a number  of states have passed right to                                                               
repair  legislation. The  Consumer  Technology Association  (CTA)                                                               
and  TechNet  developed  model   legislation  that  she  believes                                                               
specifically  addresses   consumer  electronics.   She  expressed                                                               
willingness to  work with lawmakers  on that narrower  focus. She                                                               
emphasized TechNet's  opposition to SB  111 in its  current form,                                                               
reiterating that  the digital product definition  is so expansive                                                               
it covers far more than cell phones or tractors.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:57:52 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DUNBAR   asked  whether  she  sent   TechNet's  narrower                                                               
definition to his office.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. FELICIANO replied  that she would send the  language that CTA                                                               
and TechNet developed.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:58:30 PM                                                                                                                    
DUSTIN   BRIGHTON,  Director,   Repair   Done  Right   Coalition,                                                               
Fayetteville,  Arkansas, testified  in opposition  to SB  111. He                                                               
explained that  the Repair  Done Right  Coalition is  composed of                                                               
companies, organizations,  and individuals committed  to ensuring                                                               
products  are repaired  and maintained  in a  safe, private,  and                                                               
authorized manner.  It opposes SB  111 because the  bill mandates                                                               
original equipment manufacturers  of digital electronic equipment                                                               
make  tools, parts,  and documentation  available to  third-party                                                               
repair  providers. He  argued this  would create  physical safety                                                               
risks and threaten the security and privacy of Alaskans.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BRIGHTON emphasized  that  original equipment  manufacturers                                                               
(OEMs)  already  provide  safe,  secure,  and  affordable  repair                                                               
options through authorized networks.  He said mandating companies                                                               
outsource   repair   services   to  third   parties,   undermines                                                               
manufacturers' ability to guarantee  product safety and security.                                                               
He noted  that many companies now  offer consumer-friendly repair                                                               
programs, but  cited studies  raising concerns  about third-party                                                               
repairs.  A 2021  study by  the University  of Guelph  found that                                                               
personal data from computers was  accessed in at least 50 percent                                                               
of cases when serviced by  third-party repair shops. Similarly, a                                                               
2024  UL  Solutions   white  paper  found  that   88  percent  of                                                               
aftermarket  battery  brands  failed   to  meet  regional  safety                                                               
standards. He said these findings  highlight the risks of relying                                                               
on unverified repair providers and  demonstrate why consumers are                                                               
safer  when  repairs  are  performed  with  manufacturer-provided                                                               
equipment and  services. Manufacturers  should be able  to ensure                                                               
that products are  repaired by professionals whom  they trust and                                                               
whom they know will go about  the repair with safety and security                                                               
as the top priority.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. BRIGHTON  affirmed his  organizations  dedication  to working                                                               
with lawmakers to promote digital  safety but rejects unwarranted                                                               
intervention which could compromise cybersecurity in Alaska.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:00:55 PM                                                                                                                    
ERIC  WAREHAM,  Vice  President   of  Government  Affairs,  North                                                               
American  Equipment Dealers  Association, Kansas  City, Missouri,                                                               
testified in opposition  to SB 111.  He stated  that memoranda of                                                               
understanding (MOUs) between the  American Farm Bureau Federation                                                               
and  manufacturers  have  been  in place  for  two  years.  These                                                               
agreements are  reassessed every six months,  making them "living                                                               
documents" that can be updated  more readily than legislation. He                                                               
explained that the MOUs include  a complaint portal, available to                                                               
Farm Bureau  members and  non-members, through  which individuals                                                               
can raise concerns.  He noted that only two  complaints have been                                                               
filed in the past two years, both resolved to his knowledge.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. WAREHAM observed that, because  of these MOUs, states such as                                                               
New York,  Oregon, California, and  Minnesota have  exempted off-                                                               
road equipment from right to repair  laws due to added safety and                                                               
emissions   concerns.  He   referenced  AS   45.45.870(c),  which                                                               
contains  an  exemption  for  motor  vehicles,  highlighting  the                                                               
longstanding basis for such provisions.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. WAREHAM  reiterated the Association's position  that it wants                                                               
MOUs to  work as a  private-sector solution. He  piggybacked onto                                                               
the comments  about stocked  inventory, stating  that legislation                                                               
disincentivizing  dealers  from  stocking parts  would  have  the                                                               
opposite of  its intended effect.  He explained that  the purpose                                                               
of  SB 111  is  to  reduce downtime  for  producers and  farmers.                                                               
However,  reducing dealer  incentives  to  carry inventory  would                                                               
instead increase  downtime, particularly in Alaska,  where access                                                               
to parts is critical. Parts can  be ordered, but they will not be                                                               
on hand.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:03:14 PM                                                                                                                    
KATIE REILLY, Vice President,  Environmental Affairs and Industry                                                               
Sustainability,   Consumer  Technology   Association,  Arlington,                                                               
Virginia,  testified  in  opposition  to SB  111.  She  said  the                                                               
Consumer Technology  Association (CTA)  is the  trade association                                                               
representing the  U.S. consumer technology industry  and includes                                                               
manufacturers of  devices covered under this  bill. She addressed                                                               
areas  of concern  with SB  111  and the  definition of  "digital                                                               
product, which include:                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
• The bill has broad and vague language.                                                                                        
•  The bill is extremely  misaligned with the industry  stance on                                                               
   repair.                                                                                                                      
• The bill's language will create confusion for producers.                                                                      
•  The  bill  does   not  ensure  reasonable   accommodation  for                                                               
   industries  while  ensuring  that  consumers  and  independent                                                               
   repair  shops   can   make   repairs   without   substantially                                                               
   compromising safety  and  security  concerns. She  noted  that                                                               
   other states have recognized this and put it into law.                                                                       
•  The  definition   of    digital   productis       very   broad                                                               
   [indiscernible audio].                                                                                                       
•  The bill lacks  clear parameters for  providing documentation,                                                               
   tools, and parts in line with what manufacturers supply to                                                                   
   authorized repair providers.                                                                                                 
•  It  does  not  contain  sufficient   consumer  protection  and                                                               
   enforcement provisions through a private right of action.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:04:36 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. REILLY  emphasized that most  right to repair bills  focus on                                                               
providing  consumers   with  options   to  repair   products.  By                                                               
contrast,  SB 111 extends  far beyond  typical consumer  products                                                               
and  provides little  accommodation for  manufacturers that  have                                                               
invested  in  supporting consumers  as  well  as independent  and                                                               
authorized repair providers.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  REILLY  noted that  CTA  and  TechNet developed  model  bill                                                               
language. She urged the committee not to move SB 111 forward.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:05:24 PM                                                                                                                    
DYANI  CHAPMAN, State  Director,  Alaska Environment,  Anchorage,                                                               
Alaska,  testified  in  support  of   SB  111.  She  said  Alaska                                                               
Environment  is  a  statewide nonprofit  focused  on  clean  air,                                                               
water,  and open  space. She  stated that  the ability  to repair                                                               
electronics,  from  cell  phones   to  dishwashers  to  tractors,                                                               
provides  broad  benefits.  From  an  environmental  perspective,                                                               
repair reduces E-waste, one of  the world's fastest growing waste                                                               
streams,  which  contains  toxic materials.  She  cautioned  that                                                               
rural   landfills   in   Alaska  [indiscernible   audio]   expose                                                               
communities  and wildlife  to  hazardous  substances from  broken                                                               
electronics.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CHAPMAN  said that  repair also  lowers pollution  created by                                                               
manufacturing  new products.  She said  if all  Alaskans extended                                                               
the average lifespan  of their televisions by one  year, it would                                                               
reduce pollution  equivalent to taking  1,127 cars off  the road.                                                               
She said  repair saves Alaskans  money, referencing a  study that                                                               
estimated repair saved  families an average of  $382 annually per                                                               
household.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:06:32 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  CHAPMAN   emphasized  that  manufacturer  repair   is  often                                                               
inaccessible  in   Alaska.  More  than  one-third   of  Alaskans,                                                               
including all  residents of Fairbanks  and Juneau, live  over 100                                                               
miles from an  authorized Apple repair center.  All Alaskans live                                                               
over  500  miles from  an  authorized  Maytag or  Lenovo  service                                                               
provider,  with the  nearest in  Seattle. She  said this  lack of                                                               
access applies to many other products as well.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CHAPMAN said  SB  111  would allow  Alaskans  to make  local                                                               
communities more  resilient by using local  businesses and talent                                                               
to keep  devices running,  rather than  relying on  global supply                                                               
chains  to  constantly  deliver new  goods.  She  encouraged  the                                                               
committee to pass SB 111.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:07:34 PM                                                                                                                    
DARBI GOTTLIEB, Director, State  Government and Regional Affairs,                                                               
AdvaMed, Phoenix, Arizona,  testified on SB 111  with support for                                                               
an amendment to  exempt medical devices. She said  AdvaMed is the                                                               
largest  trade association  representing  the medical  technology                                                               
industry, with more  than 600 members spanning  the full spectrum                                                               
of health technology innovators and manufacturers.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. GOTTLIEB expressed appreciation to  the sponsor and staff for                                                               
their openness  in working with  the medical  technology industry                                                               
on this  issue. She emphasized  that patient safety  is AdvaMed's                                                               
top  priority. She  explained that  medical  devices are  heavily                                                               
regulated by  the Food and  Drug Administration (FDA),  and their                                                               
repair,  whether an  MRI  machine  or an  insulin  pump, is  much                                                               
different from repairing consumer devices  such as cell phones or                                                               
computers, particularly because patient  care and safety could be                                                               
impacted.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  GOTTLIEB said  AdvaMed  looks forward  to  working with  the                                                               
sponsor's  office  on  amendment  language  to  exempt  federally                                                               
regulated  medical devices  and  align Alaska's  right to  repair                                                               
legislation with laws across the country.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:08:55 PM                                                                                                                    
MARK  OURADA,   Director,  State  Government   Affairs,  National                                                               
Electrical   Manufacturer's  Association,   Arlington,  Virginia,                                                               
testified with concerns about SB  111. He said his Association is                                                               
part of the Repair Done  Right Coalition and outlined a threefold                                                               
rationale for its concerns:                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
•  Security  risks  of   giving  unauthorized  users   access  to                                                               
   technical information.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
•  Safety risks  associated with  certain  types of  unauthorized                                                               
   repair.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
• Threats to intellectual property.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. OURADA acknowledged  that SB 111 contains a  section on trade                                                               
secrets but raised  concerns about how copyright  issues would be                                                               
addressed. He noted  that access to software code  poses a threat                                                               
to manufacturers' intellectual property.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. OURADA  raised concerns with  the bill's  definition section.                                                               
He drew on  his experience as a former legislator  and said he is                                                               
keenly aware  of unintended consequences.  He cautioned  that the                                                               
terms  "digital  product"  and   "manufacturer"  are  drafted  so                                                               
broadly that they could encompass  nearly anything. He questioned                                                               
whether the  legislation was ever intended  to cover business-to-                                                               
business products, grid infrastructure,  or medical equipment. He                                                               
urged the  committee to tighten up  SB 111 before it  is reported                                                               
from committee.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:11:04 PM                                                                                                                    
MATTHEW  TOTTY, representing  self, Anchorage,  Alaska, testified                                                               
in  support   of  SB   111  as   a  heavy   equipment  technician                                                               
specializing  in   material  handling  equipment.  He   said  his                                                               
perspective  comes from  personal experience,  noting that  it is                                                               
often difficult  in Alaska  to maintain  and repair  equipment in                                                               
the  private  sector and  in  government  services. He  explained                                                               
that, in some cases, manufacturers  have no in-state dealers even                                                               
though  their equipment  is used  in  Alaska. In  these cases,  a                                                               
technician   must   be  flown   in   with   their  computer;   he                                                               
characterized this as unreasonable.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. TOTTY expressed his belief  that there needs to be reasonable                                                               
access.  He  acknowledged  the  concerns  from  testifiers  about                                                               
granting  too  much  access,  stating that  some  limits  may  be                                                               
appropriate. He  expressed his belief, however,  that the general                                                               
purpose of this bill is sound.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:12:28 PM                                                                                                                    
KYLE LIEBMAN,  Director of Service,  Ditch Witch  West, Portland,                                                               
Oregon,  testified in  opposition  to  SB 111.  He  said that  he                                                               
oversees  the service  for 14  dealership locations  on the  web,                                                               
including Alaska.  Ditch Witch West provides  underground utility                                                               
equipment and  related services,  offering parts and  whole goods                                                               
for underground construction  equipment, maintenance and warranty                                                               
repairs,  trained service  technicians  and  parts personnel,  on                                                               
site parts delivery, and repair services.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. LIEBMAN  expressed strong opposition  to SB 111,  stating the                                                               
bill  would  jeopardize  the  company's  financial  viability  in                                                               
Alaska. He  explained that requiring manufacturers  to sell parts                                                               
to  the public  at wholesale  prices would  undermine the  dealer                                                               
network and impair its ability  to provide essential services. He                                                               
further  warned  that  granting unrestricted  access  to  machine                                                               
operation  software   would  create  significant   safety  risks.                                                               
Untrained  individuals could  alter  or  disable critical  safety                                                               
parameters, leading to unsafe working conditions.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. LIEBMAN said  different machines are equipped  with a variety                                                               
of service and safety features  designed to protect operators and                                                               
those in  the vicinity  of the  machines. These  features include                                                               
hydraulic  systems  over-pressure   protections,  limitations  on                                                               
electrical  functions,   safety  sensors  that   prevent  machine                                                               
operation when the  operator is not present,  safety sensors that                                                               
disable  moving   parts  during  maintenance  and   repairs,  and                                                               
electrical  strike  detection   to  prevent  electrocution  while                                                               
operating  the machine.  If tampered  with,  these systems  could                                                               
expose operators and  bystanders to serious hazards.  He said the                                                               
integrity  of  these  safety  systems   is  critical  to  prevent                                                               
accidents and assure safe operation in the field.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. LIEBMAN emphasized  that fair margins on  parts are essential                                                               
to   sustaining  service   locations  and   compensating  skilled                                                               
personnel.  These employees  are  vital to  ensuring the  ongoing                                                               
support provided  to Alaskan customers.  He expressed  his belief                                                               
that SB  111 compromises  the ability of  Ditch Witch  to operate                                                               
safely,  fairly, and  sustainably and  undermines the  safety and                                                               
success of customers and community.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:15:05 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR asked about "fair margin" on parts and goods.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. LIEBMAN replied that if Ditch  Witch were required to sell at                                                               
wholesale   pricing,  the   same  rate   it  receives   from  its                                                               
manufacturer, there would  be no margin left  to support services                                                               
or operations.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:16:15 PM                                                                                                                    
IVAN HAZELTON,  representing self,  Juneau, Alaska,  testified in                                                               
support  of SB  111. He  said, as  a 32-year  skilled information                                                               
tech  who  has repaired  computers  and  other equipment  at  the                                                               
University of Alaska,  the ability to repair  equipment in Alaska                                                               
is  vital for  many  reasons. [Indiscernible  audio] He  strongly                                                               
supports this legislation and the right to repair.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:18:02 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MERRICK closed public testimony on SB 111.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
[SB 111 was held in committee.]                                                                                                 

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