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03:31:09 PM Presentation(s): Alaska Lng: Update on Qilak Lng
04:19:30 PM SB112
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Presentation: Alaska LNG: Update on QilakLNG
Mead Treadwell, CEO, QilakLNG
David Clarke, COO, QilakLNG
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              SENATE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         March 12, 2025                                                                                         
                           3:30 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
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Senator Cathy Giessel, Chair                                                                                                    
Senator Bill Wielechowski, Vice Chair                                                                                           
Senator Matt Claman                                                                                                             
Senator Forrest Dunbar                                                                                                          
Senator Scott Kawasaki                                                                                                          
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PRESENTATION(S): ALASKA LNG: UPDATE ON QILAK LNG                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 112                                                                                                             
"An Act relating to credits against the oil and gas production                                                                  
tax; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
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PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 112                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: OIL & GAS PRODUCTION TAX                                                                                           
SPONSOR(s): RULES                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MEAD TREADWELL, Chief Executive Officer                                                                                         
Qilak LNG                                                                                                                       
Lloyd's Energy                                                                                                                  
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented Qilak LNG Update.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
DAVID CLARKE, Chief Operating Officer                                                                                           
Qilak LNG                                                                                                                       
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT: Assisted  with  the  presentation Qilak  LNG                                                             
Update.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
HUNTER LOTTSFELDT, Staff                                                                                                        
Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                       
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT: Presented  SB 112  on behalf  of the  Senate                                                             
Rules Committee, Senator Wielechowski, Chair.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MARK MYERS, representing self                                                                                                   
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions on SB 112.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
DAN STICKEL, Chief Economist                                                                                                    
Tax Division                                                                                                                    
Department of Revenue (DOR)                                                                                                     
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions on SB 112.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:30:15 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL called  the  Senate  Resources Standing  Committee                                                               
meeting to order  at 3:30 p.m. Present at the  call to order were                                                               
Senators  Myers,  Hughes,  Claman,   Dunbar  and  Chair  Giessel.                                                               
Senator  Kawasaki   arrived  immediately.   Senator  Wielechowski                                                               
arrived during the course of the meeting.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S): ALASKA LNG: UPDATE ON QILAK LNG                                                                               
        PRESENTATION(S): ALASKA LNG: UPDATE ON QILAK LNG                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
3:31:09 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL  announced the  presentation Alaska  Liquid Natural                                                               
Gas (LNG): Update on Qilak LNG                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:31:32 PM                                                                                                                    
MEAD  TREADWELL,  Chief  Executive Officer,  Qilak  LNG,  Lloyd's                                                               
Energy,  Anchorage, Alaska,  presented the  Qilak LNG  Update. He                                                               
introduced himself  and his colleague,  David Clarke.  He briefly                                                               
described  their  experience in  the  oil  and gas  industry  and                                                               
service to  the state  of Alaska.  He said  the [Qilak]  team had                                                               
extensive relevant  expertise and  that he, as  former lieutenant                                                               
governor, helped create  the AK LNG project  and monitored Arctic                                                               
icebreaker  developments  while   chairing  the  Arctic  Research                                                               
Commission.  He  noted that  some  legislators  had been  briefed                                                               
already but wanted the public to receive an update as well.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:33:14 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. TREADWELL moved to and narrated slide 2:                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Today's Presentation                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     ? Project description and update                                                                                           
     ? What does Qilak LNG seek in the market?                                                                                  
     ? Proposed Asian Working Groups on Alaska LNG                                                                              
     ? What can the State of Alaska do to help?                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. TREADWELL emphasized that Alaska  had repeatedly focused on a                                                               
single  approach  to  commercializing   North  Slope  gas,  which                                                               
allowed other  regions, such as  Texas and Louisiana,  to advance                                                               
multiple  LNG projects  with varying  economics. To  address both                                                               
the commercialization of North Slope  gas and the Railbelt energy                                                               
crisis, he  argued that  Alaska needed  to diversify  its project                                                               
strategies.  He  said  Governor Dunleavy  had  supported  efforts                                                               
toward  the Asian  LNG market,  however, he  maintained that  the                                                               
state  should  devote more  attention  and  "mind share"  to  the                                                               
direct-export project from the North Slope.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:34:48 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. TREADWELL moved to slide 3:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Vast Alaska Gas Supplies Available to Alaska/Exports,                                                                    
     but how?                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     AKLNG (proposed overland pipeline)                                                                                       
     $44 Bn, 20 [Million tons per annum] MTPA project                                                                           
     800-mile pipeline to ice-free port                                                                                         
     Over $500 M spent on Feasibility                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     [Slide 3 consists of a map of the North Slope with the                                                                     
     following AKLNG associated locations and stakeholders:                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Northstar 0.8 tcf                  Hilcorp                                                                                 
     Prudhoe Bay 24 tcf                 Hilcorp                                                                                 
     Point Thomson 6 tcf                Exxon                                                                                   
     Mackenzie River Delta ~7.5 tcf     Various                                                                                 
     Endicott 1.6 tcf                   Hilcorp]                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. TREADWELL deferred to Mr.  Clarke to speak to the composition                                                               
of  gas  and  the  terms  of settlement  at  Point  Thompson.  He                                                               
emphasized  that  there was  plenty  of  gas  for more  then  one                                                               
project.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:35:06 PM                                                                                                                    
DAVID  CLARKE, Chief  Operating  Officer,  Qilak LNG,  Anchorage,                                                               
Alaska, explained  that the four currently  developed North Slope                                                               
gas fields held  about 32 trillion cubic feet  (TCF) of reserves,                                                               
with at least another 100 TCF  of probable gas, enough to support                                                               
more than one  LNG project. He highlighted  Point Thomson because                                                               
it is  a high-pressure gas-condensate field  currently limited to                                                               
processing 200  million cubic feet  per day; providing  an outlet                                                               
for up  to 540 million cubic  feet per day would  allow the field                                                               
to triple  its condensate  production. He  also noted  that Point                                                               
Thomson required  less offshore distance to  reach adequate water                                                               
depth  for  LNG  carriers.  Additionally,  he  pointed  out  that                                                               
Canada's nearby Mackenzie Delta  contained three major gas fields                                                               
with another 7.5 trillion cubic  feet (TCF), and that [Qilak] had                                                               
advised  the Northwest  Territories  that  a similar  development                                                               
concept could work for their gas resources.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:36:35 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  TREADWELL moved  to  slide  4. He  stated  that the  [Qilak]                                                               
project was  enabled by  two technologies that  did not  exist 15                                                               
years  ago:  advanced  ice-capable  LNG tanker  designs  and  the                                                               
miniaturization  of LNG  facilities, which  allowed 46   million-                                                               
ton, and  larger, LNG plants  to be built  on ships or  barges in                                                               
controlled  shipyard environments,  reducing costs  and overruns.                                                               
He emphasized  that when Alaska's  political leadership  chose to                                                               
focus solely on a pipeline,  Russia had already taken a different                                                               
approach,  moving forward  with the  Yamal LNG  project. He  said                                                               
Yamal which has been shipping  LNG 2,600 miles through Arctic ice                                                               
year-round,  sometimes  even  supplying  ports  like  Boston.  In                                                               
comparison, he  emphasized that the  distance from  Point Thomson                                                               
to the  Bering Strait ice  edge in  the worst ice  conditions was                                                               
only about 600 miles:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Arctic LNG  A Proven Concept                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     [A  map of  Russia,  and Alaska  and  the Arctic  Ocean                                                                    
     comparing  the distances  to transport  LNG from  Yamal                                                                    
     LNG  in  Russia to  the  Bering  Strait, ~  2600  Miles                                                                    
     versus from  North Slope  LNG to  the Bering  Strait, ~                                                                    
     600 Miles]                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
        Yamal LNG is a 2,600-mile trip from Yamal to the                                                                        
       Bering Strait (where sea ice dissipates), whereas                                                                        
     Qilak LNG would be only 600 miles                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:38:00 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  TREADWELL  moved  to  slide 5,  Russia  began  shipping  LNG                                                               
through  the Arctic,  reliably, in  2017, a  ceremonial photo  of                                                               
Russian president  Vladimir Putin pressing a  button. He observed                                                               
that many Americans  grew up worrying that  Russian leaders might                                                               
press  buttons. He  said  the button  President  Putin pushed  in                                                               
December of 2017 began the shipping of LNG from Yamal.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:38:16 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  TREADWELL  moved  to  slide 6,  Russia's  Yamal  Project,  a                                                               
satellite photo  of the Yamal LNG  project in the spring  of 2011                                                               
with the caption: Yamal was  a greenfield project in 2011. Alaska                                                               
was focused  on a pipeline  to Canada at  that time. He  said the                                                               
cost to  get gas to  Calgary, Canada was  more than the  value of                                                               
the  gas in  Calgary  at  the time.  Under  Governor Parnell  the                                                               
decision  was made  to focus  on exporting  gas to  Asia and  the                                                               
Alaska  Gasline Development  Corporation (AGDC)  was established.                                                               
He noted that the Yamal  LNG project had reached final investment                                                               
decision (FID) in 2011.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:38:56 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  TREADWELL  moved  to  slide 7,  Russia's  Yamal  Project,  a                                                               
satellite  photo   showing  significant   infrastructure,  YAMAL,                                                               
Summer 2016, captioned: By 2016,  Russia, using modules delivered                                                               
from Asia via the Bering Strait, completed the Yamal project.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:38:59 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. TREADWELL moved to slide  8, Russia's fully completed project                                                               
was  about the  same capacity  as the  proposed AKLNG  project in                                                               
Nikiski. A photo of the Yamal LNG project, Summer, 2019.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:39:29 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. TREADWELL  moved to and narrated  slide 9. He noted  that the                                                               
Yamal  expansion received  large  amounts  of capital  commitment                                                               
from  China and  Japan.  He  said the  decision  to  put the  LNG                                                               
modules on  a floating barge at  the mouth of the  river was made                                                               
at  this  time, demonstrating  the  viability  of the  near-shore                                                               
floating LNG concept:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Russia's plans for expansion of Yamal continue, using                                                                    
     the same near-shore concept as Qilak LNG                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
     [Slide 9 includes 2 conceptual images of the Yamal LNG                                                                     
     expansion.]                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
      Arctic LNG 2 Project status         stalled now with                                                                    
     sanctions after Ukraine War                                                                                              
     ? Front-end engineering design (FEED) was completed in                                                                     
        October 2018                                                                                                            
     ? Final investment decision made in September 2019                                                                         
     ? EPC-contract with TechnipFMC was signed                                                                                  
      ? More than 90 percent of equipment for the project                                                                       
        contracted                                                                                                              
       ? Russian government will cover 60 percent of the                                                                        
        shipping terminal cost of $2.17 bn                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:40:14 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN asked whether LNG  was being shipped from Yamal to                                                               
locations other than Japan.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:40:27 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  TREADWELL  said  pre-sanctions  [Ukraine  war],  Russia  was                                                               
shipping gas  to: Europe and  Asia: Japan, Korea, China.  He said                                                               
there was consideration  to develop a facility  in Kamchatka that                                                               
would  receive  gas  and  send  it  from  there  in  conventional                                                               
tankers. He said  they were waiting for  more icebreaking tankers                                                               
to  reach  full  production  and they  were  clearly  capable  of                                                               
serving markets in both the Atlantic and Pacific oceans.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:41:12 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR asked whether the  government of Russia funded the                                                               
original  operating terminal  at Yamal  and if  so, how  much the                                                               
government invested.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. TREADWELL  recalled attending  a 2008 meeting  with European,                                                               
American, and Russian energy experts  during a period of high oil                                                               
prices.  He   said  Russian  representatives  made   clear  their                                                               
intention to  enter the Asian  market rather than rely  solely on                                                               
Europe, with  Yamal as  their leading project.  He noted  that he                                                               
had  followed  this  development  for many  years  and  addressed                                                               
questions  about  subsidies,  explaining  that  Novatek  and  its                                                               
partners had  paid market prices  for LNG equipment  and tankers,                                                               
and  that tanker  operations  were contracted  at  fair rates  to                                                               
independent   shipping  companies.   While  Russia   invested  in                                                               
infrastructure, he  emphasized that the Yamal  project ultimately                                                               
functioned as a major cash-flow generator for the country.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:43:20 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. CLARKE  observed that Russian  costs were opaque, but  it was                                                               
known that  the Yamal onshore project  was logistically difficult                                                               
and  very expensive  to build.  He said  this was  why subsequent                                                               
development  consisted  of  nearshore LNG  facilities  that  were                                                               
built in  a shipyard  and then  floated to  the location,  a more                                                               
predictable venture  than building a  large plant onshore  in the                                                               
Arctic.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:44:23 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. TREADWELL moved to and narrated  slide 10. He noted the shape                                                               
of the icebreaker, with its spoon-shaped stern and V-shaped bow:                                                                
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
         Qilak LNG will use next generation icebreaking                                                                       
     tankers, proven by Yamal                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
         [Slide 10 includes a schematic rendering of an                                                                         
       icebreaker: Yamal Arctic LNG and a photo of an ice-                                                                      
     breaker traveling through an icy sea.]                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Rated to Arc7 (IACS Polar Class 3)                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     ? Icebreaking capacity (astern): 2.1 m                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Double-Acting Ship (DAS) concept                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Example of globalization in the Arctic                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     ? Designed in Finland                                                                                                    
     ? Built in South Korea                                                                                                   
     ? Operating in Russia by international carriers                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
         15 built since the launch of the Christophe de                                                                         
     Margerie in 2016                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:45:13 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. TREADWELL moved  to slide 11. He said the  propulsion for the                                                               
icebreaker was  provided by azipods  which can swing  360 degrees                                                               
allowing the  ship's bow to become  the stern and vice  versa. He                                                               
described the nature of the ice  encountered by the ships as they                                                               
travel to the Bering Strait:                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Yamal Mk I Dual Acting LNG Carrier Azipods                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
       Inset underwater photo captioned, View taken from                                                                        
     below the vessel in ice test tank                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
      Shipyard photo captioned, Ice breaking stern of LNG                                                                       
     Carrier with three 15MW Azipods                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:45:45 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. TREADWELL moved to and narrated slide 12:                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     LNG Shipping Solution for Arctic Waters                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
         [Slide 12 includes three photos of LNG vessels                                                                         
     traversing open water and ice.]                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
      [Slide 12 includes a Pacific-centered hemisphere map                                                                      
       locating Yamal, Korea, Japan, China, Philippines,                                                                        
     North Slope Alaska, AKLNG and Mackenzie Delta.]                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Shipping Distances:                                                                                                        
     From Alaskan North Slope to:                                                                                               
                                        (NM)                                                                                    
     Ice Limit                          ~600                                                                                    
     Tokyo                              3350                                                                                    
     Inchon                             4100                                                                                    
     Shanghai                           4200                                                                                    
     Manila                             5050                                                                                    
     Saigon                             5700                                                                                    
     Bangkok                            6300                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     USGC ports     ~6,000 NM longer via Panama Canal                                                                           
     ~11,500 NM longer via Cape H                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
         ? Double Acting Technology (DAT) ice class LNG                                                                         
        carriers have increased  capability to  traverse ice                                                                    
        up to 2.1m thick                                                                                                        
       ? The U.S. Coast Guard Polar Security Cutter (PSC)                                                                       
        program has received multi-year  funding commitments                                                                    
        expected  to  complete  2  of  3   new  heavy  polar                                                                    
       icebreakers for deployment coincident with Qilak.                                                                        
     ? Air and water quality risks with an LNG project are                                                                      
        far  lower   than  previous   oil  exploration   and                                                                    
        production projects  permitted  in  the region  even                                                                    
        during winter months                                                                                                    
      ? Warming ocean temperatures have resulted in later                                                                       
        ice formation and  earlier breakup in  the Beaufort,                                                                    
        Chukchi and Bering Seas and also  an increase in the                                                                    
        proportion of annual ice which is easier to navigate                                                                    
        through than  multiyear  ice.  Southerly winds  have                                                                    
        left the Bering Sea  with comparatively less  ice in                                                                    
        recent years                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:47:04 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MYERS inquired about the  number of months each year that                                                               
these ships could operate.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:47:13 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. TREADWELL said they could operate all twelve months.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:47:19 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAWASAKI  recalled a map  of LNG tanker  movements around                                                               
the globe and noted minimal activity  in the Pacific. He asked if                                                               
there  was any  LNG  production on  the east  side  of Russia  at                                                               
present, for example Sakhalin.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:47:59 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  TREADWELL  said  Japan's nearest  LNG  source  was  Sakhalin                                                               
Island.  He said  existing supply  contracts  [between Japan  and                                                               
Russia] are  coming up  for renewal and  may become  available to                                                               
the U.S. He  explained that when the Ukraine war  began, the U.S.                                                               
sanctioned many  areas but allowed  Japan to  continue purchasing                                                               
Russian  gas, likely  to give  Japan time  to secure  alternative                                                               
supplies. Since then, Japan has  been slow to renew its contracts                                                               
with Russia.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:48:50 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KAWASAKI  acknowledged  Mr. Treadwell's  experience  and                                                               
sought his  opinion about President Trump's  discussions with the                                                               
Prime Minister  of Japan. He noted  that there seemed to  be more                                                               
excitement, but that it was difficult to gauge.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:49:22 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  TREADWELL   said  there  would   be  specific   mention  [of                                                               
interactions  between President  Trump and  the leaders  of other                                                               
countries later  in the presentation. He  reflected on productive                                                               
discussions and  growing interest  in Alaska's gas  resources and                                                               
emphasized that Alaska has enough  gas for two separate projects.                                                               
He  said  it  was  important   to  communicate  this  clearly  to                                                               
stakeholders  and noted  that  Japanese  officials responding  to                                                               
President Trump's outreach were aware of both proposed projects.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:50:22 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. TREADWELL moved to slide 14 and deferred to Mr. Clarke.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. CLARKE narrated  slide 14. He said the  structure would house                                                               
the LNG plant  and accommodations on the top deck,  store one and                                                               
a half  to two shiploads  of LNG in its  hull and include  a dock                                                               
for weekly loading. The expected  dimensions will roughly be 340m                                                               
× 80m × 33.5m  and require at least 15m of  water depth. He noted                                                               
that a  similar design  was studied for  the Mackenzie  Delta and                                                               
originally  estimated at  $5  billion,  but detailed  engineering                                                               
later suggested  about $4  billion in  2020. With  inflation, the                                                               
team  is  confident in  the  $5  billion  estimate. He  said  the                                                               
project  benefitted  from a  very  short  pipeline, six  to  nine                                                               
miles,  reducing risk  compared  to  long-distance pipelines.  He                                                               
said the  overall cost estimate  equates to about $1,250  per ton                                                               
of capacity.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Exporting LNG from Alaska's North Slope                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Reduced shipping cost to Asia vs Yamal                                                                                     
     ? Yamal LNG is a 2,600-mile trip to the Bering Strait,                                                                   
        whereas Qilak LNG will be only 600 miles                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Round Trip + 6 Port Days                                                                                                   
     ? Asia in Summer:  22 days                                                                                               
     ? Asia in Winter:  25 days                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Near Shore LNG Facility (NSLNG)                                                                                            
     ? Built under controlled conditions in a shipyard (can                                                                   
        be pre-commissioned)                                                                                                  
         ? Floated to site and ballasted down on seabed                                                                       
        (displacement 270,000t)                                                                                               
     ?  Storage in  hull, LNG  plant on  topsides, dock  for                                                                  
        unloading                                                                                                             
     ? Dimensions: 340m x 80m x 33.5m6  9 mile pipeline                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     [Slide  14  includes  the  map  displaying  the  arctic                                                                    
     routes from Yamal  to the Bering Strait  and from North                                                                    
     Slope LNG to the Bering Strait.]                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:53:17 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. TREADWELL moved  to and narrated slide 15. He  focused on the                                                               
financial   expectations  for   the   project,   which  he   said                                                               
represented  a small  but good  start  for commercializing  North                                                               
Slope gas,  adding that  another field,  such as  Endicott, could                                                               
help  complete a  20-year contract  to  pay for  the project.  He                                                               
explained  that the  Capex of  $1,012$1,150  per  ton placed  the                                                               
project in  the "sweet  spot" of  global LNG  competitiveness and                                                               
was cheaper  than several pipeline-heavy  projects in  Alaska and                                                               
Canada. He  said [Qilak]  could deliver  gas for  under $6/MMBtu,                                                               
which  would  keep  the  project   viable  even  in  lower  price                                                               
environments, benefit Alaska through  more reliable royalties and                                                               
taxes,  and make  lenders more  comfortable  about the  project's                                                               
competitiveness and risk:                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Qilak LNG Investment Highlights                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     ExxonMobil  is a  Reliable Supplier  that will  Provide                                                                    
     Treated (Liquefaction  Spec Gas Supply) Gas;  and is an                                                                    
     Experienced  Upstream  Operator  Globally  and  in  the                                                                    
     Arctic                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Management  Team   with  Deep  Experience   and  Strong                                                                    
     Political Support in Alaska,  East Asia and Washington,                                                                    
     D.C.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Cost-Advantaged LNG  Solution with  Significant Savings                                                                    
     vs.  USGC, Western  Canada, East  Africa and  AUS/PNG -                                                                    
     Target LNG  Quality ~1,060  [British Thermal  Units per                                                                    
     standard cubic foot] BTU/scf, Suitable  for All Key Far                                                                    
     East Markets Including Japan, Korea and China                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Opportunity to  Open a New Leading  Global Gas Province                                                                    
     to  LNG Development  Beginning with  Developed Resource                                                                    
     at Point  Thomson (Potential of  20+ [million  tons per                                                                    
     annum/year] Mtpa in a Rising Market)                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Buyer  Interest in  Core  Asian  Markets to  Downstream                                                                    
     Projects  (~13 Mtpa).  [memorandums of  agreement] MOUs                                                                    
     in Place with China, Japan, Philippines, and Thailand                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Proven,  Cutting-Edge Technology  Solution to  Mitigate                                                                    
     Arctic Challenges and Risks                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                             4 Mtpa                                                                                           
            Export Capacity of Qilak LNG 1 Terminal                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
             560 [million cubic feet per day] MMcfd                                                                           
            Minimum feedgas supply in ExxonMobil HoA                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                            20 Years                                                                                          
            Duration of feedgas HoA with ExxonMobil                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
                        $1,000 - $1,250                                                                                       
        Expected capex per ton of liquefaction capacity                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
          <$6 / [million British thermal units] MMBtu                                                                         
              Expected delivered cost to East Asia                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                            14 Days                                                                                           
         Shipping days to premier East Asian offtakers                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:55:42 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. TREADWELL moved to and narrated slide 16:                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Asia's Closest  U.S, Source of  Natural Gas  Offered by                                                                  
     Qilak LNG                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Lower  upstream  costs  from  a  prolific  conventional                                                                    
     source  and   proximity  to  Asian  demand   provide  a                                                                    
     differentiating LNG proposition                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     [Slide  16  includes  a map  captioned,  Qilak  LNG  is                                                                    
     ~2,000 Miles Closer  to Market than Yamal  LNG. The map                                                                    
     illustrates  the  shipping  routes  from  LNG  Hubs  to                                                                    
     Inchon South Korea:                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     North Slope, AK                                                                                                            
     Sabine Pass, TAX CREDIT                                                                                                    
     Yamal, Russia]                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Qilak LNG Shipping Costs Superior to USGC LNG                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
        ? 50% shorter route to Asian markets                                                                                    
        ? Avoids the Panama Canal fees and bottlenecks                                                                          
        ? Long Term geopolitical benefits for Korea, Japan,                                                                     
          Philippines from circumventing passage through                                                                        
          potentially conflicted South China Sea                                                                                
        ? Fewer vessels required due to shorter distance                                                                        
               ~5,000 miles from Qilak LNG to Asia                                                                              
               ~10,000 miles from USGC to Asia                                                                                  
        ? Capability   to    ship   year-round    has   been                                                                    
          demonstrated by performance data from Yamal LNG                                                                       
          and shipping simulations                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
      [Slide 16 includes a bar graph comparing the cost of                                                                      
     shipping  LNG from  Qilak to  Asia,  30 percent  lower,                                                                    
     with the cost to ship from the US Gulf Coast to Asia.]                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TREADWELL  highlighted  Qilak  LNG's  competitive  position,                                                               
noting  it was  the closest  LNG source  to Japan,  only slightly                                                               
closer than  Nikiski or  Point Thomson,  though without  the need                                                               
for an 800-mile  pipeline. He said shipping from  Alaska to Tokyo                                                               
was  therefore highly  competitive,  and  even more  advantageous                                                               
compared to Gulf Coast LNG,  which faced longer routes and Panama                                                               
Canal  constraints.  He  also emphasized  the  broader  shift  in                                                               
global  LNG, noting  that fracking  enabled  major export  growth                                                               
from  the Gulf  Coast and  led to  many independent  LNG projects                                                               
replacing Russian gas in Europe  and supplying markets like South                                                               
America.  He  said  Qilak's strengths  were  its  favorable  cost                                                               
placing it firmly in a competitive "sweet spot."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:57:31 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DUNBAR  asked  whether  there  were  currently  floating                                                               
platforms operating  in arctic environments.  He referred  to the                                                               
Merchant  Marine Act/Jones  Act  and asked  whether the  platform                                                               
would be  built at an Asian  shipyard or in a  lower 48 shipyard,                                                               
delivered through the Panama Canal.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:58:06 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  TREADWELL addressed  Senator  Dunbar's  second question.  He                                                               
noted that Senator  Myers was working on SJR 11  which focused on                                                               
Jones  Act issues  related to  Alaska gas.  However, he  said the                                                               
barge and  gravity-based structure  were not required  to conform                                                               
to the  Jones Act and  compared [the floating platform]  to other                                                               
artificial  islands  and  offshore  oil and  gas  facilities.  He                                                               
deferred to Mr. Clarke.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:58:57 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. CLARKE said  two of the three near-shore  LNG facilities were                                                               
installed in  the arctic. He said  they produced for a  while but                                                               
were currently  not producing  because of  the limited  supply of                                                               
ice-breaking ships.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:59:24 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  TREADWELL  and  Mr. Clarke  noted  upcoming  meetings  would                                                               
clarify the  cost for the  required ice-breaking  ships, expected                                                               
to be around $390 million.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:59:52 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. TREADWELL  noted that  Hanwha, the  manufacturer of  the ice-                                                               
breaking ships,  recently purchased  a shipyard  in Pennsylvania,                                                               
which may  satisfy Jones Act  stipulations. He said the  state of                                                               
Alaska  could help  as  a  partner in  the  feasibility study  by                                                               
focusing on two or three core issues on gas to Alaskans.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:00:30 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. TREADWELL moved to and narrated slide 18:                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Anticipated Project Timeline / Steps                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Pre-Construction:                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
     2025:     Complete                 Award pre-FEED                                                                          
               Feasibility Studies      pre-FEED Contract                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     2026      NEPA Filing              Award FEED Contract                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     2027      Complete FEED            Continuation of                                                                         
                                        Detailed Design                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     2028      Target FID                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Construction:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     2029      LNG Facility Begins      Award Contract for                                                                      
          Construction             LNGC and Icebreaker                                                                          
                                        Construction                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     2030      LNGC and Icebreaker                                                                                              
               Construction                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     2031      Pipeline Infrastructure                                                                                          
               Construction                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     2032      Complete Pipeline        LNG Facility                                                                            
               Infrastructure                                                                                                   
               Installation                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
               Commissioning            LNG Plant Start-Up                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
               First LNG Cargo                                                                                                  
               (Jan 2033)                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:01:25 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. TREADWELL moved to slide 19 and deferred to Mr. Clarke for                                                                  
narration:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Environmental, Social and Corporate Governance                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
      Supplying the developed and developing economies of                                                                       
       Asia with natural gas represents an opportunity to                                                                       
     reduce global carbon emissions                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     1. Environmental                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
        ? Qilak is committed to reducing greenhouse gas                                                                         
          emissions by using gas as a bridge fuel                                                                               
        ? Upstream fugitive methane emissions from the                                                                          
          Point  Thomson conventional  gas field  are orders                                                                    
          of   magnitude   less   than  from   typical   L48                                                                    
          unconventional  gas fields  which supply  USGC LNG                                                                    
          projects                                                                                                              
        ? Investors looking to make "green" (sustainable)                                                                       
          investments in  LNG should prioritize  the Alaskan                                                                    
          Arctic (Qilak) versus the  USGC and Western Canada                                                                    
          due to lower global GHG impacts.                                                                                      
        ? All CO2 removed from feed gas will                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     2. Social                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
        ? Extensive engagement with local stakeholders to                                                                       
          minimize  impact on  subsidence activities,  e.g.,                                                                    
          ongoing  dialogue with  the Alaska  Eskimo Whaling                                                                    
          Commission (AEWC)                                                                                                     
        ? Qilak will maximize local hire during the                                                                             
          engineering,  construction and  operational phases                                                                    
          and investigate ways to provide affordable fuel                                                                       
          to Alaskan coastal communities                                                                                        
        ? Project will generate significant tax revenues to                                                                     
          support local communities and for the Alaskan                                                                         
          State                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     3. Corporate Governance                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
        ? Maintenance of Arctic Food Security to native                                                                         
          communities is a core corporate value                                                                                 
        ? Qilak will provide the opportunity for local                                                                          
          native corporations to invest in the project                                                                          
        ? Aspirations to become a leader in sustainable                                                                         
          Arctic shipping                                                                                                       
        ? Currently investigating the Arctic Economic                                                                           
          Council investment protocol and other commitments                                                                     
          to sustainability and inclusion                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:02:56 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. CLARKE moved to and narrated slide 20:                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Qilak  North American LNG Project with the                                                                               
     Lowest Greenhouse Gas Emissions                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Peer-reviewed scientific  analyses have  concluded that                                                                    
     the  level of  methane emissions  from the  North Slope                                                                    
     are  approximately two  orders of  magnitude less  than                                                                    
     from the  gas fields  that supply  the U.S.  Gulf Coast                                                                    
     LNG plants.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Production of  LNG in  the Arctic is  up to  31 percent                                                                    
     more efficient  than in hot  regions (e.g.  GOM, Middle                                                                    
     East).                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     [Slide 20 includes a bar  graph and photos illustrating                                                                    
     the: Relative 100-Year  Greenhouse Gas Emissions Across                                                                    
     LNG Projects (Kg Co2e/MWh) for:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Chinese Coal (Low Tech)                                                                                                    
     Chinese Coal (High Tech)                                                                                                   
     USGC LNG (Shale Gas)                                                                                                       
     Kitimat LNG (Monteray Shale)                                                                                               
     Qilak LNG (Point Thomson)                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
    Upstream   Gas/Coal   Extraction,   Gas   Liquefaction,                                                                     
     Tanker/Rail Transport, LNG Regasification, Power Plant                                                                     
     Operations]                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:03:43 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. TREADWELL  commended the Alaska legislature  and the governor                                                               
for progress  on carbon sequestration initiatives  and noted that                                                               
it was  specifically requested by Japan.  He highlighted emerging                                                               
technologies  such as  converting captured  carbon into  graphite                                                               
and  said  Qilak invited  some  companies  to contribute  to  the                                                               
project's feasibility study to explore these options.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:04:43 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  TREADWELL moved  to slide  22.  He explained  that LNG  from                                                               
Point   Thomson  could   potentially  be   shipped  to   Nikiski,                                                               
seasonally or  year-round using  an icebreaking  tanker, allowing                                                               
flexible contracts  with Railbelt utilities. He  said LNG trading                                                               
was common in  the global market, so Point  Thomson gas delivered                                                               
to  Nikiski could  be backed  by  swaps with  other suppliers  if                                                               
needed, while still ensuring emergency supply.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:06:09 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  TREADWELL  advocated that  the  state  study three  options:                                                               
building  a  Jones  Actcompliant   tanker, seeking  a  Jones  Act                                                               
waiver, or  relying on LNG  trades. He said these  options matter                                                               
not only for  railbelt LNG supply but also  for potential markets                                                               
such as Hawaii, Pacific Islands,  and Alaska coastal communities.                                                               
He urged updates  to the Alaska Energy  Authority (AEA's) decade-                                                               
old  gas-to-communities  study  and  recommended  broadening  the                                                               
scope  of  SJR  11  to   consider  all  shipping  and  regulatory                                                               
pathways.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:07:34 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. TREADWELL highlighted  technological advances and flexibility                                                               
and  said ISO  container LNG  shipments could  support intrastate                                                               
distribution, with  filling possible  at either Point  Thomson or                                                               
Nikiski. He reported  that shipyards in the U.S.  and abroad were                                                               
exploring   ice-capable  vessels   and  suggested   that  federal                                                               
attention  to  U.S.  shipping competitiveness  might  expand.  He                                                               
stressed that  addressing Jones  Act issues  was not  intended to                                                               
challenge labor  unions, but  to solve  the practical  problem of                                                               
how to move gas to Alaskans by ship:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Gas to Alaskans                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
        Providing an affordable supply of gas to remote                                                                       
     Alaskan communities is a priority for Qilak                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska Railbelt:                                                                                                           
        ? Preference is to use LNG produced in Alaska over                                                                      
          foreign LNG from Canada or Mexico                                                                                     
        ? Three options should be assessed:                                                                                     
          ? Qilak to build one Jones Act compliant LNGC to                                                                      
             deliver LNG from the North Slope to a                                                                              
             distribution hub (e.g. Nikiski has 3 existing                                                                      
             LNG tanks)                                                                                                         
          ? Obtain a Jones Act waiver to allow Qilak LNGCs                                                                      
             to deliver within Alaska                                                                                           
          ? Qilak LNG cargo swap with vessels originating                                                                       
             from West Coast ports in Canada or Mexico,                                                                         
             which would eliminate need for Jones Act                                                                           
             compliant vessels                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Coastal Communities:                                                                                                       
        ? LNG could be delivered to coastal communities in                                                                      
          ISO containers (filled at Nikiski or offshore                                                                         
          using New Fortress Energy's ISO Flex System)                                                                          
        ? Recommend updating AEA's 2014 study                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     [Slide 22 includes a photo of a barge loaded with ISO                                                                      
     containers.]                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:10:39 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  TREADWELL  moved  to  slide   23.  He  said  [Qilak]  has  a                                                               
competitive opportunity  to bring North  Slope gas to  market and                                                               
cautioned  against  relying  on  a single  project,  [AKLNG].  He                                                               
observed  that North  Slope gas  was discovered  incidentally and                                                               
that high-gas  prospects, such  as parts  of ANWR,  won't attract                                                               
investment  until Alaska  solves  the challenge  of shipping  its                                                               
gas. He  pointed out that,  without a solution, the  state cannot                                                               
benefit  from associated  royalties and  revenues. He  emphasized                                                               
the  need  to  pursue  multiple options,  highlighting  that  the                                                               
[Qilak]  team  was  strong  and  competing  in  the  same  global                                                               
marketplace as the state-owned [AKLNG]:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Project Summary                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
    Highly   competitive   opportunity   to   commercialize                                                                   
       prolific Alaskan gas resource using Near Shore LNG                                                                     
     ("NSLNG") technologies                                                                                                   
       A pioneering approach to moving North Slope gas to                                                                       
     market                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
        ? Since 2017, Russia has moved approximately 16.5                                                                     
          million tons per year of LNG from Yamal, year-                                                                      
          round, by icebreaking tanker  much of it through                                                                    
          almost daily ship passage of the Bering Strait.                                                                     
               Scalable  opportunity  through  "design  one,                                                                    
               build many" philosophy                                                                                           
        ? Facility expected to export 4 Mtpa of LNG to                                                                        
          customers in East Asia                                                                                              
        ? No Jones Act restrictions associated with Near                                                                      
          Shore LNG Facility                                                                                                  
       ? Transaction to be structured as equity in Qilak                                                                      
               Post-transaction,     Qilak     to     remain                                                                    
               controlling shareholder                                                                                          
               Subsequent capital raise  expected to finance                                                                    
               post-FID development                                                                                             
        ? Qilak ambition is to access and monetize 30+                                                                        
          [trillion cubic feet] Tcf of proved reserves in                                                                     
          North Slope of Alaska (another 100 Tcf of                                                                           
          probable reserves)                                                                                                  
               Heads of Agreement  signed with ExxonMobil to                                                                    
               provide 20-year feed gas supply from Point                                                                       
               Thomson (six-eight Tcf)                                                                                          
               Gas supply  projected to last well  beyond 20                                                                    
               years                                                                                                            
               Potential  for multiple  projects to  address                                                                    
               broader stranded gas opportunity                                                                                 
               20-year project  to sell  $38Bn in  LNG1 with                                                                    
               approximately $5Bn CAPEX and identified                                                                          
               offtake                                                                                                          
        ? Qilak LNG targeting completion by 2032, at a time                                                                   
          where LNG demand is forecasted to exceed current                                                                    
          LNG supply under construction                                                                                       
        ? Several    Downstream     projects    are    under                                                                  
          consideration that would provide Qilak LNG with                                                                     
          access to key growth markets across Asia                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:12:05 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. TREADWELL moved to and narrated slide 26:                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Feedback from Japan from Trump - Ishiba Summit                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     [Slide  26 includes  a photo  taken  during the  summit                                                                    
     captioned,  On  February  7,  Japanese  Prime  Minister                                                                    
     Shigeru  Ishiba  met  United  States  President  Donald                                                                    
     Trump for the first time at the White House.]                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Japanese   Prime  Minister   Ishiba   Shigeru  and   US                                                                    
     President Donald  Trump confirmed at their  summit that                                                                    
     the US  will increase exports of  liquefied natural gas                                                                    
     to Japan.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     At  a news  conference  after the  summit, Trump  said,                                                                    
     "Japan   will  soon   begin   importing  historic   new                                                                    
     shipments of  clean American  liquefied natural  gas in                                                                    
     record numbers."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     What   the   Japanese   press  and   institutions   are                                                                    
     reporting:                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     ?  PM  Ishiba:   LNG  prices   from   U.S.  should   be                                                                  
        "reasonable" from the standpoint of Japanese benefit                                                                  
     ?  Alaska  LNG  (i.e.  AKLNG)  exports  to  Japan  will                                                                  
        provide a  diversified LNG  source, US/Japan  energy                                                                  
        security and reduction of Japan-US trade deficit                                                                      
     ?  LNG will  be  bought  by private  companies,  taking                                                                  
        account of price, re-sale possibility and extension-                                                                  
        timing of existing contracts                                                                                          
     ?  Inside Japanese government, besides  the uncertainty                                                                  
        of Alaska  LNG  project  realization, uneasy  voices                                                                  
        have been heard  about possibility of  high pipeline                                                                  
        cost could  put on  LNG price,  resulting in  higher                                                                  
        domestic electricity bills than current level                                                                         
     ?  High ranking official of METI "LNG  buyers who judge                                                                  
        on LNG procurement have to focus on whether price of                                                                  
        Alaska LNG can be  cheaper than other  competing LNG                                                                  
        projects." and  the review  of Alaska  LNG at  Japan                                                                  
        side will  be paying  close attentions  on how  such                                                                  
        commercial issues as  price and  re-sale possibility                                                                  
        could meet Japan's needs.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:13:20 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. TREADWELL  moved to  slide 26. He  noted past  examples where                                                               
high-level  engagement, Reagan  and Nakasone  [Japan], Trump  and                                                               
Walker, advanced  Alaska natural  gas discussions. He  said Asian                                                               
buyers' interest in direct-export LNG options from Alaska helped                                                                
motivate the Qilak project. He said Qilak:                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     It is reasonable to think that follow-up to the summit                                                                   
     will consider multiple Alaska LNG projects                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Qilak LNG has urged Asian customers to study both LNG                                                                      
     options from Alaska. There are several scenarios                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
        ? A Japan working group (WG) scenario: to be                                                                            
          established  by METI  (Ministry of  Economy, Trade                                                                    
          and  Industry)   and  managed  by   JOGMEC  (Japan                                                                    
          Organization  for  Metals  and  Energy  Security).                                                                    
          Analyze  respective   economics  of   all  options                                                                    
          (geology, CCS, GBS and pipeline etc.)                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
        ? The WG would report to the Director, Resources                                                                        
          Development  Dept  at   METI)  who  may  interview                                                                    
          potential  Japanese   investors/buyers  (to  check                                                                    
          their  interest  in   investment  in  upstream/LNG                                                                    
          plant (tolling)/pipeline and LNG off-take)                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
        ? U.S/Japan joint WG might be set up depending upon                                                                     
          the  progress of  such WG  activity  in Japan  and                                                                    
          possibly  triggered  by  METI Minister  (Muto)  to                                                                    
          U.S./Alaska                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
        ? All options for exporting LNG from Alaska could                                                                       
          be reviewed (AKLNG and Qilak LNG)                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
        ? Duration of WG review is currently unknown                                                                            
          (unlikely to be concluded in 2025)                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Korea  US working group                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
        ? South Korea and the US have agreed to establish a                                                                     
          working-level  group  to  discuss a  gas  pipeline                                                                    
          project in  Alaska, energy,  shipbuilding, tariffs                                                                    
          and  non-tariff barriers,  South Korea's  Industry                                                                    
         Minister Ahn Duk-geun said on March 4th, 2025                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. TREADWELL encouraged Alaska leaders to attend an                                                                            
upcoming LNG conference in Japan, because Alaska has large                                                                      
gas resources and multiple viable export routes.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:15:42 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI arrived.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:16:07 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. TREADWELL moved to and narrated slide 27:                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Way Forward                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Key benefits of completion of Feasibility Study                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
        1. Tie  down  costs   and  economic   viability  and                                                                    
          profitability of project, including projections                                                                       
          for Alaska revenues from royalties, taxes.                                                                            
        2. Fulfill commitment  to  ExxonMobil/Point  Thomson                                                                    
          Unit and complete gas sales and operational                                                                           
          procedures with them necessary to work together                                                                       
          on project                                                                                                            
        3. Obtain commitments  for  LNG offtake  from  Asian                                                                    
          buyers                                                                                                                
        4. Bring in partners for next phase of project                                                                          
        5. Have essential   project  description   and  data                                                                    
          needed to begin permitting process                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     What does Qilak LNG seek in the market?                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
        1. LNG Market is still  growing, but  customers want                                                                    
          small order quantities; our size is good                                                                              
        2. Strategic and financial  partners  ready to  join                                                                    
          but de-risking with Feasibility Study and Permits                                                                     
          is issue                                                                                                              
        3. 25 percent of Qilak LNG can meet Alaska's needs                                                                      
          Qilak LNG is a viable option for coastal Alaska                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TREADWELL summarized  that  [AKLNG] was  working to  de-risk                                                               
their project  by reducing costs  and the [Qilak]  project sought                                                               
to de-risk  their project through permitting.  He reiterated hope                                                               
that the state would support both projects.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:17:10 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. TREADWELL moved to and narrated slide 28:                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     What can the State of Alaska do to help?                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Support Federal Permitting Path:                                                                                         
        ? Offshore permitting path with MARAD/BOEM may                                                                          
          require Executive Order, Legislation, or Lawsuit                                                                      
        ? Obtain DOE export licenses; license already                                                                           
          granted for Pt Thomson gas export for various                                                                         
          projects                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Reiterate State Support in the Marketplace:                                                                              
        ? Governor has said State of Alaska supports both                                                                     
          projects                                                                                                            
        ? Qilak LNG founded as markets pushed back on AKLNG                                                                   
          in first Trump Administration                                                                                       
       ? Backstop de-risking for all projects, if for one                                                                       
        ? An AEA study re-do on Gas to Alaskans study could                                                                     
          be State participation in QilakLNG feasibility                                                                        
          study (SJR 11)                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Summary:                                                                                                                 
     Don't put all Alaska's eggs in one basket.                                                                             
      (US Gulf states and Western Canada have multiple LNG                                                                      
     projects, too)                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:19:18 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL thanked the presenters.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                SB 112-OIL & GAS PRODUCTION TAX                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:19:30 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL announced the consideration of SENATE BILL NO. 112                                                                
"An Act relating to credits against the oil and gas production                                                                  
tax; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:19:56 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL solicited a motion.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:20:08 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI moved to adopt the committee substitute                                                                    
(CS) for SB 112 work order 34-LS0566\I, as the working document.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:20:19 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL objected for purposes of discussion.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:20:25 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  explained  that   Senate  Bill  21,  2013,                                                               
originally proposed  a 25 percent  oil tax rate with  no credits,                                                               
but the  Senate raised  it to a  35 percent rate  with a  $5 per-                                                               
barrel credit.  The House  later increased the  credit to  $8 per                                                               
barrel.  Modeling at  the time  assumed unrealistically  high oil                                                               
prices,  and the  larger credit  has since  cost the  state about                                                               
$8.9  billion. He  said SB  112 sought  to return  the per-barrel                                                               
credit cap  from $8  back to $5,  matching the  Senate's original                                                               
version.  Prior   testimony  from   the  Department   of  Revenue                                                               
indicated that  a $5  cap would  keep producers  competitive, and                                                               
former  Commissioner  Lucinda  Mahoney noted  that  the  governor                                                               
would support  this change  if the legislature  did as  well. The                                                               
proposed adjustment is expected  to generate $100$180  million in                                                               
additional annual revenue.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:23:38 PM                                                                                                                    
HUNTER  LOTTSFELDT,  Staff,  Senator  Bill  Wielechowski,  Alaska                                                               
State  Legislature,  Juneau,  Alaska, presented  the  summary  of                                                               
changes for CS 112, version I:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                        Senate Bill 112                                                                                       
                    Oil & Gas Production Tax                                                                                  
                       Summary of Changes                                                                                       
                   34-LS0566\N to 34-LS0566\I                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
           Section 2. On page 3, lines 4-5, Amends AS                                                                           
     43.55.024(j):                                                                                                              
          Adds in a final $0 per-barrel credit tier for                                                                         
          when the gross value of a taxable barrel of oil                                                                       
          is at or above $120.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:24:15 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL removed her objection.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:24:25 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL found no further objection and CSSB 112 was                                                                       
adopted as the working document.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:24:35 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  LOTTSFELDT provided  the sectional  analysis  for CSSB  112,                                                               
version I:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                        Senate Bill 112                                                                                       
                    Oil & Gas Production Tax                                                                                  
                Sectional Analysis for Version I                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1. Amends AS 43.55.024(i):                                                                                       
     Adds  language to  conform to  the  new subsection  (k)                                                                    
     under  section 3  limiting the  application  of the  $5                                                                    
     per-barrel  credit for  new  fields  receiving a  gross                                                                    
     value reduction.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2. Amends AS 43.55.024(j):                                                                                       
     Adds both conforming language  for subsection (k) under                                                                    
     section  3 and  reduces  the  per-barrel credit  slider                                                                    
     from an $8 to $1 slider to a $5 to $1 slider.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section 3. Adds a new subsection (k) to AS 43.55.024:                                                                    
     This new  subsection will tie the  amount of per-barrel                                                                    
     credits  a   producer  may  claim  to   the  amount  of                                                                    
     qualified  capital  expenses  that producer  incurs  on                                                                    
     their property  or leases. Limits a  producer's ability                                                                    
     to carry forward unused per-barrel credits.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section 4. Adds an applicability section:                                                                                
     This Act applies  to credits from oil  production on or                                                                    
     after January 1, 2025.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section 5. Adds a new uncodified law section:                                                                            
     This section  addresses the transition of  tax payments                                                                    
     under this Act.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section 6. Adds a new section of uncodified law:                                                                         
     This  section  addresses  the  Department  of  Revenues                                                                    
     ability to make regulations retroactive.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section 7. Adds a new section of uncodified law:                                                                         
     Sets a retroactive date of January 1, 2025.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section 8. Sets an immediate effective date.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:26:15 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MYERS asked for an explanation of the mathematical                                                                      
formula and its effects in Section 3.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:26:38 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. LOTTSFELDT said the intent of Section 3 was to tie the                                                                      
amount of per-barrel credit a producer receives for barrels                                                                     
produced each year to capital expenditures in that same year.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:27:26 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  MYERS noted  terminology used  by Department  of Natural                                                               
Resources (DNR) and the oil companies, specifically:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
? unit                                                                                                                          
? lease                                                                                                                         
? participating area                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MYERS asked  for clarification of the terms  and which of                                                               
them  were addressed  by  SB 112,  Section 3  as  "each lease  or                                                               
property".                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:28:26 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. LOTTSFELDT  said "lease" or  "property holding" in  Section 3                                                               
applied  to the  [specific] producer.  He noted  that there  were                                                               
individual leases and participation  by multiple producers in one                                                               
unit, as in Prudhoe Bay. He  said the intent was to encompass the                                                               
range of holdings a producer may have.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:29:05 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MYERS asked  whether SB 112 would  require the Department                                                               
of  Revenue  to calculate  taxes  at  the  level of  each  small,                                                               
individual lease  rather than  at the  broader unit  level (e.g.,                                                               
Prudhoe  Bay, Kuparuk,  Endicott). He  noted that  leases started                                                               
out small  and were later  combined into units. He  asked whether                                                               
the intent  was to  separate tax  reporting for  every individual                                                               
lease within those units.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:30:03 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL suggested  that experts  available  online may  be                                                               
able to answer Senator Myers's questions.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:30:56 PM                                                                                                                    
MARK MYERS, representing self,  Fairbanks, Alaska, explained that                                                               
ownership of  oil was tied  to individual leases,  but production                                                               
occurred from  a shared  pool of oil.  All leases  overlying that                                                               
pool  were grouped  into  a participating  area  within a  larger                                                               
unit. Units  were typically bigger  than the proven  reservoir to                                                               
allow for expansion. Production and  costs were allocated back to                                                               
each  lease  through this  unitization  process.  He opined  that                                                               
using  "lease" in  the language  for SB  112 was  appropriate, as                                                               
production and costs were allocated to the lease level.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:31:59 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  MYERS   asked  for  confirmation  that   the  "lease  or                                                               
property" language  in SB 112,  Section 3, would not  require the                                                               
Department  of Revenue  to track  taxes at  the individual  lease                                                               
level,  and that  the Department  of Revenue  (DOR) can  continue                                                               
tracking at the unit level instead.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:32:37 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  MYERS explained  that allocation  to  individual leases  was                                                               
already  handled  through  established   processes.  As  a  field                                                             
developed   and   boundaries   changed,   producers   continually                                                               
recalculated  and  agreed  on each  lease's  equitable  share  of                                                               
production. He noted  that the state participated  in setting the                                                               
participating  area, which  determined  unit  size. He  explained                                                               
that  all  oil  was  produced   through  shared  facilities,  and                                                               
allocations ensured  every lessee  received their fair  share. He                                                               
said the value  per barrel was allocated back  to each individual                                                               
lease in an orderly, existing system.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:33:43 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DUNBAR  asked  how  SB  112,  Section  3,  would  change                                                               
practices  for producers  on the  North Slope  from the  way they                                                               
operate currently.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:34:47 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MYERS said he did not think  it was different in terms of the                                                               
way  barrels and  costs per  barrel were  allocated. He  said the                                                               
change was  to limit the  amount of  credit a producer  can claim                                                               
based on the amount of capital.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:35:17 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  said  SB  112,  Section  3,  ensured  that                                                               
companies would not  receive more in tax credits  than the amount                                                               
they  spend  on  qualified  capital  expenditures.  He  said  for                                                               
example that if a company spent  $100 million in Prudhoe Bay, its                                                               
tax credits  could not  exceed $100  million. He  emphasized that                                                               
the goal of  SB 112, Section 3 was to  encourage investment while                                                               
preventing credits  from surpassing real spending.  He noted that                                                               
in  practice, the  change  would have  a  minimal effect  because                                                               
companies  generally   did  not   receive  credits   above  their                                                               
expenditures.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:36:26 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DUNBAR asked  for confirmation  that SB  112 applied  to                                                               
capital expenditures  in producing  fields and  not to  fields in                                                               
development, like the Willow project.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  concurred and  explained that  the language                                                               
[of SB  112, Section  3] limits  a producer's  tax credits  to no                                                               
more than  the qualified capital  expenditures for  that specific                                                               
lease or  property. He  said a producer  could not  apply credits                                                               
that exceed what they spent on that property.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:37:01 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  CLAMAN asked  whether,  under the  language  of SB  112,                                                               
Section 3,  any unused  portion of  the capital-expenditure-based                                                               
tax  credit disappeared  at the  end  of the  calendar year.  For                                                               
example:  if a  producer has  $300 million  in qualified  capital                                                               
expenditures  but only  $200 million  of tax  liability to  apply                                                               
credits against, would  the remaining $100 million  in credits be                                                               
forfeited, since  the subsection says  unused credits may  not be                                                               
carried forward.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:37:57 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  affirmed  that  the credit  could  not  be                                                               
carried forward.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:38:02 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN asked how that differed from today.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:38:09 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI said the impact  of SB 112 would be minimal.                                                               
He  said the  presentation included  ten-year future  modeling by                                                               
Department of Natural Resources (DNR).                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:38:28 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN clarified his hypothetical  example: If a producer                                                               
had $300 million in credits but  can only use $200 million in the                                                               
first year,  under current law  the remaining $100  million could                                                               
be  carried forward  and used  the  next year.  His question  was                                                               
whether SB 112 would change  that, meaning the extra $100 million                                                               
would no longer be usable in year two.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:38:54 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI explained that  two separate mechanisms were                                                               
involved:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
? Carry-forward of lease expenditure deductions                                                                                 
? Carry-forward of the per-barrel tax credit                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI said  SB  112 would  affect  only the  per-                                                               
barrel credit, limiting  the ability to carry it  forward. SB 112                                                               
would  not  affect  companies' ability  to  carry  forward  lease                                                               
expenditure  deductions.  DOR's  modeling suggested  the  overall                                                               
impact of this change over the next decade to be minimal.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:39:51 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. LOTTSFELDT moved to slide 2. He explained that there were                                                                   
currently two types of per-barrel production tax credits:                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
? A flat $5 credit for new production fields that qualified for                                                                 
   a gross value reduction (GVR).                                                                                               
? A sliding per-barrel credit that provided $8 when oil is $80                                                                  
   or less, then gradually decreased as oil prices rose, dropping                                                               
   to $1 at $140$150, and becoming zero above $150.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. LOTTSFELDT  explained that the  sliding credit was a  form of                                                               
reverse progressivity,  designed to  offer more support  when oil                                                               
prices were  low and  less when prices  were high  and production                                                               
more profitable.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Where we currently are:                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Current Law:  The State of  Alaska's major  North Slope                                                                    
     production  fields  receive   a  credit  per-barrel  of                                                                    
     taxable oil. The amount of  that credit is based on the                                                                    
     sliding scale of average gross wellhead value.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     $8/barrel at less than $80;                                                                                                
     $7/barrel at $80 to less than $90;                                                                                         
     $6/barrel at $90 to less than $100;                                                                                        
     $5/barrel at $100 to less than $110;                                                                                       
     $4/barrel at $110 to less than $120;                                                                                       
     $3/barrel at $120 to less than $130;                                                                                       
     $2/barrel at $130 to less than $140;                                                                                       
     $1/barrel at $140 to less than $150;                                                                                       
     $0/barrel at $150                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:40:55 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. LOTTSFELDT moved to and narrated slide 3:                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Where did Per-Barrel Credits come from?                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
      ? SB 21, from 2013, the "More Alaska Production Act"                                                                      
       (MAPA), was introduced with no per-barrel credits.                                                                       
     ? A flat $5 per-barrel credit was added by the Senate                                                                      
        before passing the body. This version of SB 21 was                                                                      
        supported not only by the Senate, but the Governor                                                                      
        and Industry as well.                                                                                                   
     ?  The House made the  flat $5 per-barrel  credit apply                                                                    
        to new fields. The House then added a sliding scale                                                                     
        per-barrel credit that went $8 to $1 for oil prices                                                                     
        $80 and below, up to $150 and below.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:41:57 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. LOTTSFELDT moved to slide 4. He emphasized that the price of                                                                
oil was much lower in reality than had been modeled for Senate                                                                  
Bill 21, 2013:                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     There was little time to consider these changes                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     ?  SB 21 was  sent back from  the House with  these new                                                                    
        per-barrel credits the day before adjournment.                                                                          
     ?  The Senate  on  the last  day  of  session voted  to                                                                    
        concur with the changes made by the House.                                                                              
     ?  The  new  per-barrel  credits  were   modeled  on  a                                                                    
        forecast average Alaska North Slope ($ANS) price of                                                                     
        $106.2, the real average price over the same period                                                                     
        was $61.1.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:44:18 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. LOTTSFELDT moved to and narrated slide 6:                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Chapter 8                                                                                                                  
     4                                                                                                                          
     Historical Production Tax Credits and Forecast                                                                             
     FY 2015 - FY 2034                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Since 2014  Alaska has lost $8.6  billion to per-barrel                                                                    
     credits                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     [Slide 6  contains a table  of various tax  credits for                                                                    
     the oil and gas industry  from FY 2015 through FY 2024,                                                                    
     highlighting   the  per   taxable  barrel   credit,  AS                                                                    
     43.55.024(i)-(j).]                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
             Source: 2024 Fall Revenue Sources Book                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:44:28 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. LOTTSFELDT moved to and narrated slide 7:                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Chapter 8                                                                                                                  
     4                                                                                                                          
     Historical Production Tax Credits and Forecast                                                                             
     FY 2015 - FY 2034                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
      The State of Alaska is projected to give out another                                                                      
     $6.5 billion in the next 8 years.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     [Slide 6  contains a table  of various tax  credits for                                                                    
     the oil and gas industry  from FY 2025 through FY 2034,                                                                    
     highlighting   the  per   taxable  barrel   credit,  AS                                                                    
     43.55.024(i)-(j).]                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
             Source: 2024 Fall Revenue Sources Book                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:44:40 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  MYERS  recounted  a   past  conversation  where  someone                                                               
involved in  creating the per-barrel credits  explained that they                                                               
were  designed to  introduce progressivity  into Senate  Bill 21,                                                               
like   Alaska's  Clear   and  Equitable   Share  (ACES)   used  a                                                               
progressive  tax rate  that increased  by  small increments,  for                                                               
example, a quarter-percent, as prices  rose. He asked whether the                                                               
state was now saying it  lost money because of per-barrel credits                                                               
under Senate  Bill 21, and if  that implied the state  would also                                                               
have  lost money  under ACES,  which used  a different  but still                                                               
lower level of progressivity and a lower tax rate?                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:45:39 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. LOTTSFELDT  said forego may  be a  better term than  lost. He                                                               
explained that the state was foregoing revenue.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:46:06 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  LOTTSFELDT moved  to and  narrated slide  8. He  pointed out                                                               
that between  2016 and 2021  the production tax revenue  was less                                                               
than the amount  of incentive the state was giving  in per barrel                                                               
credits:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
        History of production tax revenue vs. per-barrel                                                                        
     credits                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
      [Slide 8 contains a line graph comparing revenue to                                                                       
       the State of Alaska through Production Tax vs Per-                                                                       
     Barrel Credits.]                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
       Sources: 2024 Spring Forecast & 2024 Fall Revenue                                                                        
     Sources Book                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:46:36 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. LOTTSFELDT moved to and narrated slide 9:                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Per-Barrel Credits Have Not Incentivized Investment on                                                                     
     the North Slope: Expenditures                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
        [Slide 9 includes a table illustrating Qualified                                                                        
     Capital Expenditures for the Prudhoe Bay Unit and for                                                                      
     all other Alaska North Slope (ANS) producers.]                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
        Source: DOR Reported ANS Lease Expenditures and                                                                         
      Capital Lease Expenditures: CY 2014  CY 2023 & DOR's                                                                      
     response to SRES 3.3.25                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:46:59 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MYERS noted apparent contradiction  in how the per-barrel                                                               
credits  were  being  described.  They're  said  to  provide  tax                                                               
progressivity,  yet  also  said to  incentivize  investment,  two                                                               
purposes that  don't obviously  align. If,  in 2013  [Senate Bill                                                               
21],  the credits  were  primarily intended  to  make the  system                                                               
progressive, then SB 21 already  had separate provisions designed                                                               
to   encourage   new    development   through   allowable   lease                                                               
expenditures.  He asked  why  it mattered  now  whether the  per-                                                               
barrel  credits   incentivized  investment,  if   their  original                                                               
purpose was progressivity rather than investment.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:47:47 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  LOTTSFELDT  clarified that  the  per-barrel  credit was  not                                                               
traditional  progressivity  but  reverse  progressivityproviding                                                                
more benefit  at lower oil  prices to incentivize  production and                                                               
maintain jobs.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:48:40 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MYERS asked whether the  intent under the previous Alaska                                                               
Clear  and  Equitable  Share  (ACES)   was  also  to  incentivize                                                               
production.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:48:57 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. LOTTSFELDT said  he would follow up when he  could provide an                                                               
accurate answer.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:49:07 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL noted that the  legislature's intent to support new                                                               
[oil and gas] development and  gross value reduction was designed                                                               
to incentivize new  oil development on the  North Slope, offering                                                               
temporary reductions  based on price.  She suggested  that expert                                                               
testimony was available to explain and answer questions.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MYERS  affirmed that he would  appreciate the opportunity                                                               
for explanation questions when appropriate.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:49:59 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  LOTTSFELDT  moved  to  and  narrated  slide  10,  Per-Barrel                                                               
Credits  Have Not  Incentivized  Investment on  the North  Slope:                                                               
Credits.  He highlights  that in  2021, Prudhoe  Bay received  an                                                               
estimated $448 million in per-barrel  credits but only spent $106                                                               
million on qualified capital  expenditures, showing a significant                                                             
gap between credits received and actual investment.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:51:14 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DUNBAR  observed that  there  appeared  to be  no  clear                                                               
correlation between  the credits  collected and  capital spending                                                               
in Prudhoe Bay.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LOTTSFELDT affirmed  that credits  and capital  expenditures                                                               
appeared unrelated.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:51:43 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DUNBAR asked  whether any  regression analysis  had been                                                               
done  to  determine how  much  additional  production or  capital                                                               
spending  is  generated  per  dollar   of  tax  credit,  such  as                                                               
increasing the credit cap from $8 to $9.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:52:31 PM                                                                                                                    
DAN  STICKEL,  Chief  Economist,   Tax  Division,  Department  of                                                               
Revenue (DOR),  Juneau, Alaska,  said no  such analysis  had been                                                               
done because predicting  how taxpayers will react  to tax changes                                                               
was  extremely difficult.  He acknowledged  that changes  in per-                                                               
barrel  credits  may  influence   tax-payer  decisions,  but  the                                                               
Department of Revenue  does not try to estimate  the exact impact                                                               
on investment or production.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:53:29 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR said  his question might be 12 years  too late. He                                                               
reflected  that  it  seemed  odd  to  create  incentives  without                                                               
knowing their  impact. He acknowledged  the complexity  but noted                                                               
that  the policy  involved hundreds  of millions  of dollars.  He                                                               
added  the wish  that such  analysis had  been done  earlier, and                                                               
hoped some modeling existed at the time.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:53:58 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  HUGHES noted  a claim  by former  Department of  Revenue                                                               
(DOR) Commissioner  Brian Fechter  that changing the  credit from                                                               
$8 to $5 wouldn't affect investment.  She noted the claim did not                                                               
appear to be based on  any documented analysis. She asked whether                                                               
any written modeling or supporting  materials existed and, if so,                                                               
requested that they be provided to the committee.5                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:54:39 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  STICKLE  said   he  could  not  speak   to  past  officials'                                                               
statements and acknowledged that  while the Department of Revenue                                                               
had done various  analyses and hired consultants  over the years,                                                               
he  didn't  know  what   specific  analysis  Deputy  Commissioner                                                               
Fechter relied on when making his claim.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:55:09 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES  noted that  if any  analysis existed,  DOR should                                                               
still  have it.  Since no  written  work appeared  to exist,  she                                                               
asked whether DOR  could confidently say the  credit change would                                                               
not affect production, revenue, or royalties.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:55:38 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  STICKLE said  he would  not say  with certainty  that a  tax                                                               
change would  not impact  production. He  referred to  the fiscal                                                               
note from the  Department of Revenue (DOR),  OMB Component Number                                                               
2476,  dated March  7,  2025.  He said  it  was an  indeterminate                                                               
fiscal note  in part because SB  112 would be expected  to impact                                                               
taxpayer behavior.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:56:11 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI   asked  Mr.  Stickle  or   another  expert                                                               
available online  to explain the  lessee's legal duty  to produce                                                               
oil  in  Alaska, specifically  the  obligations  required when  a                                                             
company holds a state lease.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:56:31 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. STICKLE deferred to Department of Natural Resources (DNR).                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:56:40 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL noted  that  there was  not  a DNR  representative                                                               
available online.  She said  there would be  more hearings  on SB
112 with  representation from  DNR as  well as  documentation and                                                               
modeling from past policy decisions.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:57:21 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. LOTTSFELDT  resumed the presentation  on SB 112,  speaking to                                                               
slide  10. He  pointed out  that in  2021, Prudhoe  Bay producers                                                               
received  about  $448 million  in  credits  but spent  only  $106                                                               
million on qualified capital costs,  and SB 112, Section 3, aimed                                                             
to narrow that gap.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:57:51 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES  noted that Covid-19 may  have affected production                                                               
in 2021.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. LOTTSFELDT acknowledged her observation.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:58:16 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  LOTTSFELDT  moved  to  slide 11.  He  quoted  former  Alaska                                                               
governor Jay Hammond:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     "Development  that  actually  costs the  state  remains                                                                    
     Alaska's  least understood  and most  pressing economic                                                                    
     problem. Few politicians seem concerned  that we do not                                                                    
     extract enough wealth from  new resource development to                                                                    
     offset its costs."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
      -Governor Jay Hammond                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     [Slide 11 includes a photograph of Governor Hammond.]                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:58:50 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MYERS  asked whether the per-barrel  tax credits resulted                                                               
in foregone state revenue so large  that it failed to cover state                                                               
costs  such   as  Department  of  Natural   Resources  (DNR)  and                                                               
Department  of Environmental  Conservation  (DEC) oversight,  and                                                               
Department  of  Transportation   and  Public  Facilities  (DOTPF)                                                               
maintenance of the Deadhorse airport and the Haul Road.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:59:25 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR   WIELECHOWSKI  answered   that   Alaska's  current   tax                                                               
structure [under  Senate Bill 21]  resulted in  three consecutive                                                               
years of effectively  negative oil taxes, meaning  the state paid                                                             
companies more in  credits than it collected in  taxes. He argued                                                             
that this fails the constitutional  requirement to obtain maximum                                                               
value from the  state's resources. He noted that  oil once funded                                                               
90 percent of Alaska's budget  but currently funded only about 30                                                               
percent. He likened  it to an employee volunteering  for a salary                                                               
cut from  $90,000 to  $30,000 and then  struggling to  pay bills,                                                               
asserting  that  Senate Bill  21  massively  reduced revenue  and                                                               
harmed the state's fiscal position.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:00:42 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  MYERS asserted  that a  wholistic conversation  would be                                                               
necessary  to  consider not  only  the  severance tax,  but  also                                                               
royalties  and   other  revenue  the  state   received  from  oil                                                               
companies.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:01:00 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI concurred  and emphasized  that one  of the                                                               
largest producers  on the North  Slope was currently  paying zero                                                               
corporate income taxes and there  should be continued hearings on                                                               
that.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:01:15 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL referred  to the graph on slide 8.  She pointed out                                                               
that  during 20212024,   the four  dollar-per-barrel minimum  tax                                                               
was crucial  for the  state, especially  when oil  prices briefly                                                             
went  negative  during  COVID.  She said  that  the  minimum  tax                                                               
essentially "saved" the state's bacon in those years.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:01:54 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. LOTTSFELDT moved to and narrated slide 12:                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
     What SB 112 does                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     SB 112 reduces the sliding-scale per-barrel credit by                                                                      
     $3 and ties credits received to the amount of capital                                                                      
     investment by the producer:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
        ? Sliding per-barrel credits vary between $5 for                                                                        
          oil priced at $80 or less and $1 for oil priced                                                                       
          at $120 or less, and $0 thereafter.                                                                                   
        ? Producers may only claim credits commensurate                                                                         
          with their qualified capital expenses from the                                                                        
          same year.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     The   new  investment   caveat  encourages   investment                                                                    
     spending  on  projects  in Alaska  that  will  maintain                                                                    
     production,  create  jobs  for  Alaskans,  and  promote                                                                    
     industry growth.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:02:59 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. LOTTSFELDT moved to slide 13,  How much does SB 112 raise? He                                                               
said the table  in slide 13 contained modeling for  SB 112 by DOR                                                               
for fiscal years 2026 through 2035:                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
?  Row 1:  projected revenue  gain from  the three-dollar  credit                                                               
   reduction.                                                                                                                   
?  Row 2:  projected revenue  with unchanged  credit amount;  but                                                               
   linking credits to qualified capital spending (SB 112, Section                                                               
   3).                                                                                                                          
?  Row 3:  Combining both  changes, projected  to bring  in about                                                             
 $190 million in FY26, tapering to about $100 million by FY35.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:04:20 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL held SB 112 in committee.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:04:44 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair Giessel  adjourned the Senate Resources  Standing Committee                                                               
meeting at 5:04 p.m.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
2025.03.11 DOR-TAX Fiscal Note.pdf SRES 3/12/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 112
2025.03.11 SB 112 Presentation Version I.pdf SRES 3/12/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 112
CSSB112B 2025.03.05.pdf SRES 3/12/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 112
SB 112 Sectional Anaslyis Version I.pdf SRES 3/12/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 112
SB 112 Sponsor Statement Version I.pdf SRES 3/12/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 112
SB 112 Summary of Changes Version N to Version I.pdf SRES 3/12/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 112
SB112A 2025.03.05.pdf SRES 3/12/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 112
2025.03.12 QilakLNG Presentation to Senate Resources Committee.pdf SRES 3/12/2025 3:30:00 PM