Legislature(2025 - 2026)BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)

05/01/2025 03:30 PM Senate STATE AFFAIRS

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+ SB 104 VEHICLES/BOATS: TRANSFER ON DEATH TITLE TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
*+ SB 160 MEMBERS LEG COUNCIL; LEG BUDGET & AUDIT TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
+= SB 107 ALASKA SUNSET COMMISSION TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled:
+= SB 167 CRIM. CONV. OVERTURNED: RECEIVE PAST PFD TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 167(STA) Out of Committee
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
         SB 104-VEHICLES/BOATS: TRANSFER ON DEATH TITLE                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:38:57 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAWASAKI   reconvened  the   meeting  and   announced  the                                                               
consideration  of SENATE  BILL NO.  104 "An  Act relating  to the                                                               
transfer of a title on the  death of the owner; and providing for                                                               
an effective date."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:39:28 PM                                                                                                                    
JENNA COLQUHOUN, Staff, Senator Scott Kawasaki, Alaska State                                                                    
Legislature, Juneau, Alaska, introduced SB 104 on behalf of the                                                                 
sponsor and read the following quote from slide 1:                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
       "An Act relating to the transfer of a title on the                                                                       
       death of the owner; and providing for an effective                                                                       
     date."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:39:53 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. COLQUHOUN moved to slide 2 and discussed the following:                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Transfer on Death Deeds                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
        • Was created in Alaskan Statute when the "Uniform                                                                      
          Real Property Transfer on Death Act" was passed                                                                       
          in 2014 by the 28th Legislature                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
          -AS  13.48.010      "An  individual  may  transfer                                                                    
          property  to one  or more  beneficiaries effective                                                                    
          at the  transferor's death by a  transfer on death                                                                    
          deed."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
        • AS 13.48.020  "A transfer on death deed is no                                                                         
          testamentary                                                                                                          
          -Not involving or creating a will                                                                                     
          -Assets subject to a Transfer on Death (TOD) deed                                                                     
          skip the probate process                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
        • TOD deeds currently can only be used for Real                                                                         
          Property                                                                                                              
         -Land and anything permanently attached to it                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:41:14 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. COLQUHOUN moved to slide 3 and discussed the following:                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     What SB 104 Does                                                                                                         
        • Extends Transfer on Death (TOD) deed to boats,                                                                        
          vehicles, and certain manufactured homes titled                                                                       
          through the DMV                                                                                                       
          -No more than two beneficiaries                                                                                       
          -Owner  can   revoke  TOD   deed  or   change  the                                                                    
          beneficiary  at  anytime  without  notice  to  the                                                                    
          beneficiary                                                                                                           
          -Designated   beneficiary   can   disclaim   their                                                                    
          interest                                                                                                              
        • Beneficiary of a TOD deed would be subject to                                                                         
          conveyances,       encumbrances,      assignments,                                                                    
          contracts,  liens, and  other  interests to  which                                                                    
          the boat or vehicle                                                                                                   
        • Establishes the procedure to obtain a TOD deed                                                                        
          -Owner will  fill out an application  and submit a                                                                    
          fee to the Department of Administration                                                                               
          -These fees will serve to fund the program                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:43:15 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. COLQUHOUN moved to slide 4 and discussed the following:                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Benefits of SB 104                                                                                                       
        • Lowers the cost of probate for Alaskans                                                                               
          -On  average,  it  costs   $14,225  to  settle  an                                                                    
          estate*                                                                                                               
        • Allows Alaskans without ready access to law                                                                           
          services estate planning tools                                                                                        
          -Rural Alaska                                                                                                         
        • Expedites beneficiary access to boats and                                                                             
          vehicles                                                                                                              
          -Enabling timely  maintenance and  preservation of                                                                    
          boats and vehicles                                                                                                    
          -In  the instance  of a  family fishing  business,                                                                    
         allows the business to continue uninterrupted                                                                          
        • Reduces probate case load                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:45:55 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI announced invited testimony on SB 104.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:47:25 PM                                                                                                                    
CHELSEA  RIEKKOLA,   Attorney,  Foley  and   Pearson,  Anchorage,                                                               
Alaska, testified  by invitation  on SB  104 and  emphasized that                                                               
the bill improves  access to justice. She noted  that probate for                                                               
smaller  assetslike   vehicles  and boatsoften   doesn't  justify                                                               
using public  or court  resources, and SB  104 would  address the                                                               
issue.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:49:07 PM                                                                                                                    
CHRISTOPHER   WALKER,  representing   self,  Faulkner   Banfield,                                                               
Juneau, Alaska, testified  by invitation on SB 104  and said this                                                               
is a  common-sense measure that  fills a  gap in current  law. He                                                               
explained  that Alaska  lacks  effective  mechanisms to  transfer                                                               
certain  assets, especially  boats and  vehicleswithout  probate.                                                               
He said  existing tools like  TOD deeds are limited  because they                                                               
don't fully avoid probate for these items.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:51:29 PM                                                                                                                    
ABIGAIL O'CONNOR,  Chief Fiduciary  Officer, Peak  Trust Company,                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska, testified  by invitation on SB  104 and stated                                                               
this is a practical solution for  families when someone dies on a                                                               
boat in  Alaska. SB  104 addresses  timing and  insurance issues,                                                               
easing significant  challenges families face after  a loved one's                                                               
death.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:52:24 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI said noted Alaska  does not have estate tax.                                                               
He  asked if  the  transfer  of a  boat  or  vehicle would  count                                                               
towards federal estate tax.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:52:49 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  O'CONNOR replied  that vehicles  are included  in the  gross                                                               
estate  for federal  estate  tax  purposes and  SB  104 does  not                                                               
change that. If  the vehicle passes to a U.S.  citizen spouse, no                                                               
estate tax applies,  however, if it goes to  someone else, estate                                                               
tax may be owed.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:53:28 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked whether  creditors can collect against                                                               
a boat  or vehicle asset if  the estate has liabilities  and that                                                               
asset is transferred.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:54:03 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  O'CONNOR  requested  confirmation   that  the  question  was                                                               
talking  about a  general estate  liability,  not a  lien on  the                                                               
vehicle.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI answered yes.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. O'CONNOR  replied that SB  104 does not provide  an exemption                                                               
for vehicles  and boats. She  referenced SB 104, Section  3, page                                                               
3,  lines 24-27,[AS  13.33.401 (j)],  "...the  state may  enforce                                                               
liability against  a boat or  vehicle transferred at  the owner's                                                               
death...                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:55:17 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  asked if  the  deceased  co-owned a  boat,                                                               
would the share  be transferred upon death and how  would it work                                                               
if the new owner wanted to sell or not keep their share.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:56:01 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. O'CONNOR replied that without  SB 104, a non-married co-owner                                                               
of a  boat could still  transfer only  their share at  death. The                                                               
beneficiary  designation  would  apply   only  to  that  person's                                                               
interest, and the  title would still list both  owners. She noted                                                               
that SB 104  doesn't change that outcome, and in  such cases, the                                                               
transfer-on-death designation might not be used.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:57:43 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. WALKER replied  that under [AS 13.33.401] (a),  a TOD vehicle                                                               
title only takes  effect upon the death of the  sole owner or the                                                               
last surviving  joint owner. It  does not  apply to just  one co-                                                               
owner's fractional interest.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:58:13 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  asked if  he  owned  a boat  with  Senator                                                               
Kawasaki, and died, would his daughter acquire the share.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:58:31 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. WALKER replied that his  daughter would not acquire his share                                                               
because the other owner, Senator Kawasaki is still living.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI asked  if Senator  Kawasaki died  would his                                                               
daughter get the boat.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. WALKER replied that it depends  on how the boat is titled. He                                                               
said unlike real property, vehicle  titles can be listed as "and"                                                               
or "or" between  owners. An "or" title is  usually interpreted to                                                               
grant  survivorship rights,  meaning  the vehicle  passes to  the                                                               
surviving  owner.  However,  under  the language  of  SB  104,  a                                                               
transfer-on-death  designation  would  not   apply  to  just  one                                                               
owner's share.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:00:31 PM                                                                                                                    
LINDA  HULBERT,  Agent,  New   York  Life  Insurance,  Fairbanks,                                                               
Alaska, testified  by invitation  on SB 104  and stated  that the                                                               
bill  helps  everyday  people  transfer   assets  like  boats  or                                                               
vehicles without probate, avoiding  delays and allowing continued                                                               
use for family or business. She  said TOD titles make the process                                                               
smoother, reduce  court involvement,  and are  easy to  revoke if                                                               
needed. She  emphasized a  TOD is  flexible, practical  tool that                                                               
simplifies estate planning and encourages more people to use it.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:03:08 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  asked if  there is a  liability, such  as a                                                               
mortgage or loan,  on the boat or car, does  the debt transfer to                                                               
the beneficiary.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:03:22 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. HULBERT answered  yes. She said beneficiaries  can disclaim a                                                               
boat or vehicle  if they don't want it, whether  for financial or                                                               
personal  reasons.  She  suggested attorneys  clarify  the  legal                                                               
details.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:04:19 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  asked if a  boat or vehicle  is transferred                                                               
and later  the estate is found  to lack sufficient funds,  is the                                                               
recipient still responsible for the  debt if they already sold or                                                               
gave away the asset.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:04:53 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. RIEKKOLA  answered that SB 104  mirrors the transfer-on-death                                                               
deed  process for  handling creditors.  Creditors  have one  year                                                               
from  the date  of death  to make  claims. If  someone accepts  a                                                               
vehicle through  a transfer-on-death title, they  also accept any                                                               
liabilities  attached, and  if they  later sell  the asset,  they                                                               
remain responsible for those obligations.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:06:48 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI asked how SB 104  applies when someone owns both a                                                               
vehicle with a  TOD title and a home used  as a licensed assisted                                                               
living facility, since the real  property falls under a different                                                               
statute.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:07:41 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  O'CONNOR  replied  that  if   a  vehicle  is  titled  to  an                                                               
individual,  it  can  transfer to  beneficiaries  under  SB  104,                                                               
regardless of its  use. Similarly, a house under  a revocable TOD                                                               
deed  would  pass  to  the   named  beneficiary.  He  noted  that                                                               
regulatory  requirements may  involve notifying  the state  about                                                               
ownership changes,  which is outside  their expertise.  She added                                                               
that assisted living homes and  related vehicles are often titled                                                               
under an  entity like an  LLC, in  which case this  statute would                                                               
not apply.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:09:43 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. RIEKKOLA clarified  that SB 104 is meant  to address simpler,                                                               
lower-income situations,  like transferring a car  to children or                                                               
a family fishing vessel, rather  than complex business scenarios.                                                               
She stated that businesses with  significant liabilities, such as                                                               
assisted  living facilities,  should be  structured as  LLCs with                                                               
legal   counsel.   Overall,   SB  104   effectively   streamlines                                                               
straightforward cases.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:10:48 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  questioned  the accuracy  of  the  statute                                                               
referenced  in  SB 104,  page  5,  lines  2930,  which  cites  AS                                                               
28.10.201 for vehicle titles. He  suggested this may be incorrect                                                               
and  that AS  28.10.011 or  another section  might be  the proper                                                               
citation, urging a review of the reference.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:11:39 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  COLQUHOUN stated  that, to  her  understanding, the  section                                                               
discusses vehicles that  can be titled through the  DMV. She said                                                               
it was reviewed  multiple times to clarify  distinctions, such as                                                               
between manufactured homes with  and without foundations, however                                                               
she is willing to reread it to confirm accuracy.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:12:37 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI opened  public testimony on SB  104; finding none;                                                               
public testimony was kept open.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:14:14 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI held SB 104 in committee.                                                                                        

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB0160A.pdf SSTA 5/1/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 160
sponsor SB 160.pdf SSTA 5/1/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 160
sectional SB 160.pdf SSTA 5/1/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 160
SB 104.pdf SSTA 5/1/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 104
SB 104 - Sponsor Statement.pdf SSTA 5/1/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 104
SB 104 - Sectional.pdf SSTA 5/1/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 104
Explanation of Changes A to N SB 167.pdf SSTA 5/1/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 167
CS SB 167.pdf SSTA 5/1/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 167
SB 104 - Powerpoint.pdf SSTA 5/1/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 104