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03/11/2025 01:30 PM Senate COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS

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*+ SB 111 DIGITAL PRODUCT REPAIR TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
*+ SB 102 ELIMINATE DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
*+ SB 26 ELIMINATE DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME TELECONFERENCED
<Bill Hearing Canceled>
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled
             SB 102-ELIMINATE DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:48:26 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR   MERRICK  reconvened   the  meeting   and  announced   the                                                               
consideration of SENATE BILL NO.  102 "An Act exempting the state                                                               
from daylight saving time; and providing for an effective date."                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MERRICK invited  the  chair of  the  Senate State  Affairs                                                               
Standing  Committee and  his staff  to introduce  the committes                                                                 
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:48:48 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  SCOTT KAWASAKI,  District P,  Alaska State  Legislature,                                                               
Juneau, Alaska, introduced  SB 102 on behalf of  the Senate State                                                               
Affairs Committee, as  chair. He stated that SB  102 would exempt                                                               
Alaska from observing daylight saving  time. Daylight saving time                                                               
is traditionally observed between the  second Sunday in March and                                                               
the first Sunday in November.  While Alaska has observed daylight                                                               
saving time  since 1966, SB  102 proposes switching the  state to                                                               
permanent  standard  time.  He said  this  change  would  provide                                                               
mental   and  physical   health  benefits,   strengthen  Alaska's                                                               
economy, and  eliminate the  need for  residents to  change their                                                               
clocks twice  each year.  He noted  that Arizona,  Hawaii, Puerto                                                               
Rico,  Guam, and  other U.S.  territories  have already  exempted                                                               
themselves,  and many  states, including  Washington and  Oregon,                                                               
have introduced similar legislation this year.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KAWASAKI expressed  appreciation to  the sponsor  of the                                                               
other bill, related to standard  time, for recognizing the health                                                               
benefits  associated with  ending daylight  saving time.  He said                                                               
the  American Academy  of Sleep  Medicine  agrees that  switching                                                               
between standard  time and daylight  saving time  increases risks                                                               
to physical health,  mental health, and public  safety. He stated                                                               
that both  permanent standard time and  permanent daylight saving                                                               
time have advantages for Alaska, given its northern location.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:50:57 PM                                                                                                                    
JOE   HAYES,  Staff,   Senator  Scott   Kawasaki,  Alaska   State                                                               
Legislature, Juneau, Alaska, delivered  a presentation on SB 102,                                                               
on  behalf  of  the  Senate   State  Affairs  Committee,  Senator                                                               
Kawasaki, Chair.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:51:07 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  HAYES   moved  to  slide   2,  History   of  Daylight-Saving                                                               
Time (DST):                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
             History of Daylight-Saving Time (DST)                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
   • Germany was first country to implement DST in 1916                                                                         
     • US followed suit but repealed DST a year later                                                                           
   • During WWI and WWII many countries temporarily                                                                             
     implemented DST                                                                                                            
   • By 1965, time zones were erratic across the US                                                                             
   • Extra hour of daylight reduced energy usage of                                                                             
     electric lighting and heating                                                                                              
   • Almost all non-Western countries have since moved to                                                                       
     standard time                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:51:56 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. HAYES moved to slide 3, Negative Effects of Changing Clocks:                                                                
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
              Negative Effects of Changing Clocks                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
   • Shifting sleeping hours twice a year disrupts                                                                              
     circadian rhythm                                                                                                           
   • Reduces cerebrovascular and cardiovascular health                                                                          
   • Increases traffic accidents and workplace injuries                                                                         
   • Increases substance abuse and mental health disorders                                                                      
   • Circadian Misalignment                                                                                                     
   • American Economic Association estimates social cost of                                                                     
     $275 million annually                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:52:30 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. HAYES moved to slide 4, Daylight Saving Time vs Standard                                                                    
Time, the comparison section of the presentation.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. HAYES moved to slide 5, Daylight Saving Time:                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                      Daylight Saving Time                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     • 1974 Energy Crisis                                                                                                       
        • 79 percent approval -> 42 percent approval                                                                            
     • Energy is no longer saved                                                                                                
        • Incandescent Lights                                                                                                   
     • Federal Law                                                                                                              
        • Arizona, Hawaii, 5 US Territories                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. HAYES reviewed the slide,  noting that the 1974 energy crisis                                                               
drove strong  public support  for daylight  saving time.  He said                                                               
public  support has  since fallen  to about  42 percent,  in part                                                               
because of the  energy saving impact of modern  lighting. He said                                                               
under  federal  law,  Arizona,  Hawaii  and  5  U.S.  territories                                                               
switched to standard time.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:52:58 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. HAYES moved to slide 6, Standard Time:                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                         Standard Time                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     • More light in the morning improves physical and mental                                                                   
        health                                                                                                                  
     • Metabolic disorders, depression, cardiovascular disease                                                                  
        risk decrease                                                                                                           
     • Permanent Standard Time is supported by many groups                                                                      
        • American Academy of Sleep Medicine                                                                                    
        • European Sleep Research Society                                                                                       
        • Centre for Economic Policy Research                                                                                   
     • Doesn't require congressional amendments                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:53:29 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. HAYES  moved to the  map graphics  on slide 7,  depicting how                                                               
standard   time  preserves   morning  light,   whereas  permanent                                                               
daylight time makes sunrise too late.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:53:40 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  HAYES moved  to photos  on slide  8, comparing  morning road                                                               
visibility in Fairbanks on January  27 under daylight saving time                                                               
and under  standard time. He  noted that  a graphic on  the slide                                                               
illustrates how standard  time aligns more closely  with the sun,                                                               
while daylight saving time forces earlier waking.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:54:09 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  HAYES read  from  a  March 6  news  article, reporting  that                                                               
President  Trump would  not push  for  permanent daylight  saving                                                               
time  because  public opinion  is  evenly  split. He  quoted  the                                                               
President, "It's a 50-50 issue and  if something is a 50-50 issue                                                               
it is  hard to  get excited  about it ...  I assume  people would                                                               
like to have more light later,  but some people want to have more                                                               
light  earlier because  they don't  want  to take  their kids  to                                                               
school in the dark. It's something I  can do, but a lot of people                                                               
like it one way.  A lot of people like it the  other way ... It's                                                               
very even. And usually I find  when that's the case, what else do                                                               
we have to do?"                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. HAYES expressed his belief that  a national bill would not be                                                               
enacted because the President, who  initially supported the idea,                                                               
had changed his position.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:55:35 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DUNBAR  observed  that  northern  Alaska  and  even  the                                                               
Interior  differ so  greatly from  the rest  of the  country that                                                               
this debate does  not even really apply. He said  there are parts                                                               
of the  state where the  sun goes down  in December and  does not                                                               
rise again until January or  February. Even the Interior has very                                                               
long  daylight hours  in  the  summer and  very  long periods  of                                                               
darkness  in the  winter.  He stated  that,  for him  personally,                                                               
whether there is more daylight in  the morning or evening is less                                                               
significant  than  the  seasonal  time change  itself.  He  said,                                                               
unless he is  mistaken, the health effects of  the changeover are                                                               
well  categorized  and  are  extremely  negatively  impactful  on                                                               
Alaska's   population.   He   asked    if   that   was   a   fair                                                               
characterization.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:56:41 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KAWASAKI confirmed  that was  the case.  He stated  that                                                               
multiple studies  show the time change  itself, whether requiring                                                               
people to wake  earlier and lose sleep or adjusting  to the extra                                                               
evening  light,  is  the  most   disruptive  factor.  Because  of                                                               
Alaska's  northern   latitude,  even  in  Juneau   the  state  is                                                               
currently gaining five minutes of  daylight per day, amounting to                                                               
a  half-hour  difference  each  week. He  noted  that  on  Sunday                                                               
morning it  was still fairly dark,  yet within a week  the change                                                               
will be  barely noticeable.  The effect  is even  more pronounced                                                               
further north,  with Anchorage gaining more  daylight than Juneau                                                               
and  Fairbanks gaining  about seven  minutes per  day. He  agreed                                                               
that, due  to its geographic  position, daylight saving  time has                                                               
minimal impact on Alaska either way.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:57:59 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR observed that, if  his math was correct, Fairbanks                                                               
would gain  as much  daylight in  nine days as  it does  from the                                                               
"spring forward" shift of daylight saving time.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:58:08 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KAWASAKI   agreed,  noting  that  nine   days  at  seven                                                               
additional minutes  of daylight per  day equals 63  minutes, just                                                               
over an hour.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:58:17 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MERRICK  thanked the presenters. She  said her constituents                                                               
feel passionately about this issue.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:58:30 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR said it is an exhausting issue.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
[SB 111 was held in committee.]                                                                                                 

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 111 Sponsor Statement Version N 02-26-2025.pdf SCRA 3/11/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 111
SB 111 Sectional Analysis Version N 02-26-2025.pdf SCRA 3/11/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 111
SB 111 Public Testimony - NAEDA.pdf SCRA 3/11/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 111
SB 102 Sponsor Statement.pdf SCRA 3/11/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 102
SB 102 Sectional Analysis.pdf SCRA 3/11/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 102
SB 102 Backup ADN - Help our students with another hour of sleep.pdf SCRA 3/11/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 102
SB 102 Backup ADN - Make Alaska Standard Time permanent.pdf SCRA 3/11/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 102
SB 102 Backup - Does DST Save Energy.pdf SCRA 3/11/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 102
SB 102 Backup Washingtonian - US Tried Permanent DST in the 70s. People Hated It.pdf SCRA 3/11/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 102
SB 102 Backup - AASM Position Statement on DST.pdf SCRA 3/11/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 102
SB 102 Backup ADN Op-Ed .pdf SCRA 3/11/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 102
SB 102 Presentation.pdf SCRA 3/11/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 102
SB111-LAW-SLA-03-07-25 Fiscal Note.pdf SCRA 3/11/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 111
SB102 Fiscal Note rNXfo.pdf SCRA 3/11/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 102
SB 111 Public Testimony - Entertainment Software Assoc 3.11.2025.pdf SCRA 3/11/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 111
SB102 SB26 Public Testimony - Lisa Alexia.pdf SCRA 3/11/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 26
SB 102
SB102 Public Testimony 3.11.2025.pdf SCRA 3/11/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 102
SB 111 Public Testimony - MIC SVIA ROHVA.pdf SCRA 3/11/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 111