Legislature(2025 - 2026)ADAMS 519

05/13/2025 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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-- Recessed to a Call of the Chair --
+= SB 95 CHILD CARE: ASSISTANCE/GRANTS TELECONFERENCED
Moved SB 95 Out of Committee
+= SB 96 CHILD CARE: TAX CREDITS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= SB 97 BIG GAME GUIDE PERMIT PROGRAM TELECONFERENCED
Moved SB 97 Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
SENATE BILL NO. 97                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act  establishing a big game  guide concession area                                                                    
     permit program  on land in  the state; relating  to the                                                                    
     duties of  the Big Game Commercial  Services Board, the                                                                    
     Board of  Game, the  Department of  Fish and  Game, and                                                                    
     the  Department  of  Natural Resources;  requiring  the                                                                    
     Board of  Game to establish  an initial big  game guide                                                                    
     concession area; and providing for an effective date."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
6:58:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
INTIMAYO HARBISON, STAFF,  SENATOR CATHY GIESSEL, introduced                                                                    
the legislation. He explained that  Senate Bill 97 sought to                                                                    
solve   a   long-standing   problem  on   state   lands   by                                                                    
implementing a constitutionally  sound concession program to                                                                    
limit the  number of commercial hunting  guide operations on                                                                    
state  lands  in  Alaska.  The  program  was  similar  to  a                                                                    
successful  federal  concession  program  and  attempted  to                                                                    
solve   issues  of   overcrowding  and   localized  wildlife                                                                    
resource overutilization.  The legislation  was a  result of                                                                    
the Guide  Concession Program Workgroup  (formed by  the Big                                                                    
Game   Commercial  Services   Board),   which  conducted   a                                                                    
comprehensive  process that  included  public meetings,  and                                                                    
robust public consultation  with licensed guides, residents,                                                                    
other   stakeholders,  and   various  state   agencies.  The                                                                    
legislation   represented    a   balanced,   well-considered                                                                    
approach to  address the challenges  in commercial  big game                                                                    
hunting  on state  lands. The  passage  of SB  97 would  put                                                                    
establish  a  proven mechanism  to  improve  the quality  of                                                                    
hunting on state lands to the benefit of all Alaskans.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
7:00:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster OPENED public testimony.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster recognized  Senator Jesse  Bjorkman in  the                                                                    
room.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster asked  for  a review  of  the three  fiscal                                                                    
notes.   He   listed   individuals  available   online   for                                                                    
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
BRODIE  ANDERSON, STAFF,  REPRESENTATIVE NEAL  FOSTER, began                                                                    
with the Department of Fish  and Game (DFG) published fiscal                                                                    
impact note (FN5(DFG), allocated  to Boards of Fisheries and                                                                    
Game.   He  reported   that  the   funds  coming   from  the                                                                    
expenditure  lines of  $9.5 thousand  in personal  services,                                                                    
$2.6  thousand  in  travel, and  2.3  thousand  in  services                                                                    
totaled  $14,000 in  Undesignated  General  Funds (UGF)  and                                                                    
were included in  the FY 26 governor's  requested budget. He                                                                    
noted that some regulation  changes were required. He turned                                                                    
to  the second published  fiscal impact note from Department                                                                    
of   Fish  and   Game  (FN4(DFG),   allocated  to   Wildlife                                                                    
Conservation. He  indicated that the  expenditures reflected                                                                    
personal services of $112.3 thousand  in UGF. The department                                                                    
anticipated  the   cost  due  to  the   requirement  for  an                                                                    
additional  wildlife biologist  position  to manage  ongoing                                                                    
responsibilities. The last published  fiscal impact note was                                                                    
from  the Department  of  Natural Resources  (DNR)(FN6(DNR),                                                                    
allocated  to  Mining,  Land, and  Water.  The  fiscal  note                                                                    
reflected the  governor's FY  26 requested  budget including                                                                    
$291.6  thousand  in  personal  services,  $10  thousand  in                                                                    
travel,  $30  thousand  in services,  and  $10  thousand  in                                                                    
commodities  totaling $341.6  thousand UGF.  There were  two                                                                    
full  time  positions  and  DNR noted  that  the  change  in                                                                    
revenue was  indeterminate, and the bills   provisions would                                                                    
also require  regulation review. He delineated  that the two                                                                    
positions  were  one  permanent  Full-Time Natural  Resource                                                                  
Manager  2,  and one  permanent  Full-Time Natural  Resource                                                                  
Specialist 2/3 Flex.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
7:05:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Allard asked  if  the sponsor  spoke to  the                                                                    
resident  hunters. She  cited  testimony  and reported  that                                                                    
they were opposed to the bill.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Harbison  did  not believe  there  was  any  additional                                                                    
opposition  information other  than what  was referenced  by                                                                    
Representative Allard.  The bill did not  originate with the                                                                    
Senate Resources  Committee in  the prior  bill. He  was not                                                                    
familiar with the particulars  around the particular group's                                                                    
positions. He deferred to the department for questions.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Allard  asked if the  intent was to  move the                                                                    
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster answered  in the affirmative, but  it was up                                                                    
to the  will of the committee.  Representative Allard wanted                                                                    
to hold the bill overnight to discover more information.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bynum  reminded the  committee that  the bill                                                                    
was one  of the cleanup bills  and it was currently  in law.                                                                    
The  funds were  already  in the  budget.  He wondered  what                                                                    
options  existed   other  than   to  deconstruct   the  law.                                                                    
Representative Allard voiced that  she was being mansplained                                                                    
[colloquialism] to. Representative Bynum  argued that he was                                                                    
not  mansplaining anything  and merely  wanted to  determine                                                                    
what the intention to hold the bill was for.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
7:08:56 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
7:10:06 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Allard did  not  totally  disagree with  the                                                                    
bill. There were  a couple of individuals she  wanted to get                                                                    
a bit of information from. She  asked if they could hold the                                                                    
bill until the following day.                                                                                                   
Co-Chair Foster  noted that Thor  Stacy was in the  room and                                                                    
available as well.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Schrage recognized  there may be a  desire to check                                                                    
in with  other stakeholders.  There was a  lot of  work left                                                                    
before the  committee and time  was dwindling.  He preferred                                                                    
moving the bill before conclusion of the meeting.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
7:11:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Allard agreed to move  the bill if it was the                                                                    
will of the committee.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tomaszewski wanted to move  both SB 96 and SB
97.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Allard   objected  to  moving  SB   96  from                                                                    
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Schrage MOVED  to REPORT  SB 97  out of  committee                                                                    
with individual recommendations  and the accompanying fiscal                                                                    
notes.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SB  97 was  REPORTED out  of  committee with  six "do  pass"                                                                    
recommendations     and     four     "no     recommendation"                                                                    
recommendations and  with three previously  published fiscal                                                                    
impact notes: FN4 (DFG), FN5 (DFG), and FN6 (DNR).                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster reviewed  the  schedule  for the  following                                                                    
meeting.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 97 Public Testimony Rec'd by 051325.pdf HFIN 5/13/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 97