Legislature(2025 - 2026)SENATE FINANCE 532

04/15/2025 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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09:01:23 AM Start
09:02:52 AM University of Alaska Finance Budget Subcommittee of the Whole Close-out
09:08:11 AM SB92
09:29:11 AM SB137
09:45:45 AM SB133
09:53:02 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ University of Alaska Finance Subcommittee TELECONFERENCED
Budget Close Out
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
+= SB 92 CORP. INCOME TAX; OIL & GAS ENTITIES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+ SB 137 EXTEND BOARDS: MIDWIVES, NURSING, PAROLE TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+ SB 133 INSURANCE; PRIOR AUTHORIZATIONS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled
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SENATE BILL NO. 92                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act establishing an income tax on certain entities                                                                     
     producing or transporting oil or gas in the state; and                                                                     
     providing for an effective date."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:08:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   CATHY    GIESSEL,   SPONSOR,    reintroduced   the                                                                    
legislation.  She  expressed  that  the bill  was  a  simple                                                                    
update  to the  state's  corporate tax  structure and  would                                                                    
place  the   same  responsibility  on  the   many  types  of                                                                    
corporations that  were profiting  from the state's  oil and                                                                    
gas resources.  She stressed that  the bill  effectuated the                                                                    
state  constitution  in  ensuring that  the  state  received                                                                    
maximum benefit for the people in the state.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:09:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman OPENED public testimony.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:09:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REBECCA  LOGAN,  CHIEF   EXECUTIVE  OFFICER,  THE  ALLIANCE,                                                                    
ANCHORAGE  (via teleconference),  testified  against SB  92.                                                                    
The  Alliance opposed  the bill,  which she  thought clearly                                                                    
targeted  one company  and one  industry and  ignored future                                                                    
investment. She  asserted that Hilcorp had  invested in Cook                                                                    
Inlet, which  had led  to increased  oil and  gas production                                                                    
and  delayed shortages.  Hilcorp had  invested in  the North                                                                    
Slope, resulting in greater  production than would otherwise                                                                    
have happened.  She thought the  tax policy in 2012  had led                                                                    
to more production and more royalties.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:11:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADAM    HASSE-ZAMUDIO,    SELF,     WASHINGTON    DC    (via                                                                    
teleconference),  spoke in  support of  the legislation.  He                                                                    
supported closing  the tax  loophole that  benefited out-of-                                                                    
state  corporations.  He  did not  think  the  tax  loophole                                                                    
incentivized companies  to support  the state's  economy. He                                                                    
referenced the constitution.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:12:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARY MAY, SELF, SOLDOTNA  (via teleconference), testified in                                                                    
support of  SB 92. She  thought 77 percent of  Alaskans were                                                                    
in support of the bill's  proposal. She referenced the state                                                                    
constitution. She thought Hilcorp  paid taxes in every state                                                                    
except  Alaska. She  emphasized that  there was  no evidence                                                                    
that giving a  tax break to S corporations  would bring more                                                                    
revenue  to the  state.  She noted  that  the bill  targeted                                                                    
companies with taxable income over  $5 million and would not                                                                    
affect small  businesses. She thought  it was far  past time                                                                    
that the  state benefited from the  extraction of resources.                                                                    
She mentioned attrition  because of crumbling infrastructure                                                                    
and under funded schools.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:16:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
THOMAS BACHERK, SELF,  FAIRBANKS (via teleconference), spoke                                                                    
in support  of the bill. He  thought it was far  overdue for                                                                    
such  a   change.  He   thoguht  there   was  no   reason  S                                                                    
corporations   should  be   given   an   advantage  over   C                                                                    
corporations. He  approved of the additional  funds to state                                                                    
coffers  to fund  education and  state services.  He pointed                                                                    
out that  the company  could deduct any  state tax  from its                                                                    
federal tax liability.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:17:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SCOTT   CRASS,   SELF,   FAIRBANKS   (via   teleconference),                                                                    
testified  in support  of the  legislation.  He thought  the                                                                    
bill  was common-sense  reform that  would  bring over  $100                                                                    
million into the state's revenue.  He thought Alaska was the                                                                    
only  state  that   did  not  collect  income   tax  from  C                                                                    
corporations. He  did not think  the bill was  punitive, but                                                                    
thought it  leveled the playing  field. He thought  the bill                                                                    
was  a   long-overdue  alignment   with  other   states.  He                                                                    
referenced  the state  constitution. He  thought the  reform                                                                    
would allow the  state to recapture tax dollars  sent to the                                                                    
federal government.  He thought the bill  encapsulated years                                                                    
of recommendations from fiscal working groups.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:20:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SARAH  FURMAN, SELF,  FAIRBANKS (via  teleconference), spoke                                                                    
in support of the bill.  She was concerned about the outlook                                                                    
for  the  state  budget  and   the  projected  deficit.  She                                                                    
referenced  school  closures  in  Fairbanks.  She  supported                                                                    
increases in  education spending  and energy  investment and                                                                    
thought  the bill  would bring  in much-needed  revenue. She                                                                    
thought  it was  unfair  that some  corporations paid  state                                                                    
income tax  while others  did not.  She thought  every other                                                                    
state required S  corporations to pay tax.  She cited recent                                                                    
polling that indicated 70 percent  of Alaskans supported the                                                                    
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:22:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CATHY   WALLING,  SELF,   FAIRBANKS  (via   teleconference),                                                                    
testified  in support  of the  legislation. She  thanked the                                                                    
other testifiers and echoed their  comments. She thought the                                                                    
bill  was a  long-awaited effort  to close  a loophole.  She                                                                    
supported more  revenue generation and leveling  the playing                                                                    
field.  She thought  the state  and country  were in  a very                                                                    
different position than it was in 2012.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:25:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JESSE  CARLSTROM,  SELF,   ANCHORAGE  (via  teleconference),                                                                    
spoke against the  bill. He had lived in Alaska  for over 30                                                                    
years and  worked in the  shipping industry. He  thought the                                                                    
bill  was  bad policy  that  targeted  one company  and  one                                                                    
industry. He thought the bill  ignored what Hilcorp had done                                                                    
for the  state. He discussed Hilcorp's  payment of royalties                                                                    
and  its  investments. He  discussed  job  creation. He  was                                                                    
concerned about the  message the bill sent  to those wanting                                                                    
to invest in the state.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:26:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
THERESA  OBERMEYER,  SELF, ANCHORAGE  (via  teleconference),                                                                    
testified  in support  of  the  legislation. She  associated                                                                    
herself with  the comments  made earlier  in support  of the                                                                    
bill. She lived  in the state for 47 years.  She thought the                                                                    
state was  at a  turning point. She  thought the  tax regime                                                                    
should  have  been changed  in  2020.  She mentioned  former                                                                    
Governor Frank Murkowski and his support of the bill.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SB  92  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB137 Public Testimony-Letter-Board of Direct Entry Midwives 03.19.25 - final.pdf SFIN 4/15/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 137
SB137 Sectional Analysis Ver. A.pdf SFIN 4/15/2025 9:00:00 AM
SL&C 3/24/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 137
SB137 Sponsor Statement Ver. A.pdf SFIN 4/15/2025 9:00:00 AM
SL&C 3/24/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 137
SB137 Supporting Documents - Audit Midwives.pdf SFIN 4/15/2025 9:00:00 AM
SL&C 3/24/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 137
SB137 Supporting Documents - Audit Parole.pdf SFIN 4/15/2025 9:00:00 AM
SL&C 3/24/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 137
SB137 Supporting Documents - Audit Nursing.pdf SFIN 4/15/2025 9:00:00 AM
SL&C 3/24/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 137
SB 92 Public Testimony 041425.pdf SFIN 4/15/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 92
SB 133 2025.03.28 ANTHC LOS SB133.pdf SFIN 4/15/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 133
SB 133 Summary of Changes ver N to ver I.pdf SFIN 4/15/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 133
SB 133 Sectional Summary ver. I.pdf SFIN 4/15/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 133
SB 133 Letters of Support ver. I - combined as of 4.03.2025.pdf SFIN 4/15/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 133
SB 133 Sponsor Statement ver. I.pdf SFIN 4/15/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 133
SB 92 Sponsor Statement 04.15.25.pdf SFIN 4/15/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 92
041525 UA Subcommittee Budget Action Report.pdf SFIN 4/15/2025 9:00:00 AM
041525 UA Subcommittee Narrative.pdf SFIN 4/15/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 133 Public Testimony Allermoth.pdf SFIN 4/15/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 133
SB 137 Allermoth PUBLIC TESTIMONY ON SB 137.pdf SFIN 4/15/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 137
SB 137 Supporting Documents-Audit Vets Examiners Brd.pdf SFIN 4/15/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 137
SB 92 Public Testimony 041525.pdf SFIN 4/15/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 92
SB 137 Explanation of Changes ver A to ver N.pdf SFIN 4/15/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 137
SB 137 work draft version N.pdf SFIN 4/15/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 137
SB 133 DOG_ASCO_SB 133_Prior Authorization_Support_Senate Finance.pdf SFIN 4/15/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 133