Legislature(2023 - 2024)SENATE FINANCE 532

02/19/2024 01:30 PM Senate FINANCE

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SENATE BILL NO. 82                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act   relating  to  the   powers  of   the  Alaska                                                                    
     Commercial  Fisheries  Entry  Commission;  relating  to                                                                    
     administrative   areas   for  regulation   of   certain                                                                    
     commercial set net entry permits; establishing a buy-                                                                      
     back  program  for  certain   set  net  entry  permits;                                                                    
     providing for  the termination of  state set  net tract                                                                    
     leases  under  the  buy-back program;  closing  certain                                                                    
     water  to  commercial  fishing; and  providing  for  an                                                                    
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:45:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR    JESSE   BJORKMAN,    SPONSOR,   introduced    the                                                                    
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:52:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KONRAD JACKSON, STAFF, SENATOR BJORKMAN, discussed the                                                                          
Sectional Analysis (copy on file):                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1:  Amends the uncodified  law of the  State of                                                                    
     Alaska by  adding a new section  which establishes that                                                                    
     this legislation may be known  as the East Side of Cook                                                                    
     Inlet Set Net Fleet Reduction Act.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2:  Amends the uncodified  law of the  State of                                                                    
     Alaska by  adding new  Legislative findings  and intent                                                                    
     relating to the bill.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section  3:  Amends  AS  16.43.200   by  adding  2  new                                                                    
     subsections:                                                                                                               
          (c) Establishes  an area of the  Upper Subdistrict                                                                    
          of the  Cook Inlet Central District  as a distinct                                                                    
          administrative area  separate from the  Cook Inlet                                                                    
          Central District  on December 31, 2023.  This area                                                                    
          is made up of the  statistical areas identified on                                                                    
          January 1,  2023 as  244-21, 244-22,  244-31, 244-                                                                    
          32, 244-41 and 244-42.                                                                                                
          (d) Provides that an individual  who has a set net                                                                    
          permit  for the  Cook  Inlet  Central District  on                                                                    
          December 31,  2023 is not  entitled to set  net in                                                                    
          the   administrative  area   created  under   this                                                                    
          section as  of January  1, 2023 unless  the permit                                                                    
          has  been reassigned  to  that new  administrative                                                                    
          area.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section 4:  Amends the uncodified  law of the  State of                                                                    
     Alaska by adding  a new section which  provides how the                                                                    
     commission  will determine  whether  an individual  who                                                                    
     holds a set net entry  permit in the Cook Inlet Central                                                                    
     District  on January  1, 2024  is  reassigned an  entry                                                                    
     permit  for the  administrative area  established under                                                                    
     AS 16.43.200(c)  (added by sec.  3 of the bill)  or the                                                                    
     portion  of the  Cook Inlet  Central District  that was                                                                    
     not assigned  into the administrative  area established                                                                    
     under AS 16.43.200(c).                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section 5:  Amends the uncodified  law of the  State of                                                                    
     Alaska  by  adding  a new  section  which  defines  the                                                                    
     appeals process  in the  new administrative  area. This                                                                    
     section  provides that  a provisional  license will  be                                                                    
     issued  pending   resolution  of  an  appeal   and  the                                                                    
     provisional  permit  holder   may  cast  a  provisional                                                                    
    ballot in the election established under section 6.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section 6:  Amends the uncodified  law of the  State of                                                                    
     Alaska by adding a new  section which requires on April                                                                    
     1,  2024 an  election  be conducted  by the  commission                                                                    
     among    persons   holding    permits   in    the   new                                                                    
     administrative  area, to  affirm support  or opposition                                                                    
     to a buy-back program.  Requires the commission provide                                                                    
     public  notice of  the election,  hold public  meetings                                                                    
     concerning  the election,  and clarify  the details  of                                                                    
     the  buy-back program  to  those  participating in  the                                                                    
     election.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section 7:  Amends the uncodified  law of the  State of                                                                    
     Alaska by  adding a new  section which  establishes the                                                                    
     set  net  entry  permit buy-back  program  for  certain                                                                    
     permits fished  in the administrative  area established                                                                    
     under AS  16.43.200(c) (added by  sec. 3 of  the bill).                                                                    
     This section  will only take  effect if approved  in an                                                                    
     election by  the set  net entry  permit holders  in the                                                                    
     administrative area established  under AS 16.43.200(c).                                                                    
     If  it is  approved, the  buy-back program  will become                                                                    
     law 30 days following  notification of the Lt. Governor                                                                    
     (see  secs.   9  and   11).  Sets   qualifications  for                                                                    
     participation  in the  program,  provides the  buy-back                                                                    
     price for permits, requires  that the purchased permits                                                                    
     be cancelled  and not re-issued, provides  that certain                                                                    
     waters that  were fished  with permits  purchased under                                                                    
     the program will be closed  to future commercial salmon                                                                    
     fishing, and  specifies other  details of  the buy-back                                                                    
     program.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section 8:  Amends the uncodified  law of the  State of                                                                    
     Alaska  by  adding a  new  section  which requires  the                                                                    
     commission  to   provide  a   written  report   to  the                                                                    
     Legislature  on the  status of  the  program not  later                                                                    
     than January 15, 2030.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section 9:  Amends the uncodified  law of the  State of                                                                    
     Alaska  by  adding a  new  section  which requires  the                                                                    
     chair  of  the  commission  to  notify  the  Lieutenant                                                                    
     Governor and the Revisor of  Statutes of the outcome of                                                                    
     the election held under section 6.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section 10: Repeals sections 1, 2,  7 and 8 on June 30,                                                                    
     2030.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 11: Amends  the uncodified law of  the State of                                                                    
     Alaska  by adding  a new  section  which provides  that                                                                    
     secs. 1,  2, 7,  and 8  take effect  only if  notice is                                                                    
     provided  under section  9  that  the buy-back  program                                                                    
     established under section 7 was approved.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section  12: Effective  Date Clause.  Section 4  of the                                                                    
     bill takes effect January 1, 2024.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section   13:  Effective   Date  Clause.   Provides  if                                                                    
     sections 1, 2, 7 and,  8, take effect under section 11,                                                                    
     they  take effect  30 days  following the  date of  the                                                                    
     notice provided in section 9  that the buy-back program                                                                    
     was approved.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section 14:  Effective Date Clause. Except  as provided                                                                    
     in sections  12 and 13,  the bill takes effect  July 1,                                                                    
     2023.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:59:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KEN COLEMAN, EASTSIDE CONSOLIDATION ASSOCIATION, JUNEAU,                                                                        
discussed,     "Eastside      Consolidation     Association,                                                                    
Presentation to the Alaska State Legislature" (copy on                                                                          
file). He pointed to slide 2, "Goals":                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Reduce the  number of  setnet permits  and nets  on the                                                                    
     Eastside of Cook Inlet                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
   An economically viable and sustainable setnet fishery                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Sustainable escapements into our rivers                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Reasonable harvest opportunity for ALL user groups                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Work Collaboratively in Upper Cook Inlet for the FISH                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Passage of SB 82: Cook Inlet: New Admin Area: Permit                                                                       
     Buyback and Gear Reduction Act                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Coleman pointed to slide 3, "Eastside Consolidation                                                                         
Association":                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
    The Eastside Consolidation Association. Who are we?                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     The  Eastside  Consolidation  Association  (ECA)  is  a                                                                    
     Qualified Salmon  Fishery Association as  identified in                                                                    
     AS 16.40.250.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     The ECA was  formed as a non-profit and  is licensed by                                                                    
     the  State  of  Alaska  as required  by  AS  10.20,  in                                                                    
     addition  is  registered  with   the  federal  and  the                                                                    
     Internal  Revenue  Code  as a  Section  501(c)(5)  non-                                                                    
     profit.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ECA  was formed  to  promote the  consolidation of  the                                                                    
     Cook   Inlet  setnet   fishery,   primarily  by   fleet                                                                    
     reduction  through buyback  of  permits and  locations.                                                                    
     Further, our position is that  such reduction occurs in                                                                    
     the   Upper  Subdistrict   of  the   Central  District,                                                                    
     commonly known as the "Eastside Setnet Fishery".                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Our Board  of Directors  is comprised of  limited entry                                                                    
     permit holders as required.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Coleman addressed slide 4, "We are Eastside                                                                                 
Setnetters":                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     We  are fathers  and mothers,  we are  grandparents, we                                                                    
     are children,  sons and daughters, we  are families. We                                                                    
     are a  community filled with generations  of setnetting                                                                    
     families.  We  are  an  important  part  of  our  local                                                                    
     history.  Setnetting   is  not   just  a  job   to  us.                                                                    
     Setnetting defines us, it is who we are.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Coleman highlighted slide 5, "Eastside Setnet History":                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     For  over  150 years  these  salmon  have been  feeding                                                                    
     people both locally and all  over the world. This rich,                                                                    
     renewable  resource was  first exported  in the  1840's                                                                    
     when  ships  from  America   and  other  nations  began                                                                    
     fishing in Alaskan waters  and delivering salted salmon                                                                    
     to ports around the world.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     The first cannery in Cook  Inlet was built at the mouth                                                                    
     of  the Kasilof  River  in 1882.  Six  years later  the                                                                    
     first salmon  cannery was  constructed on  Kenai River.                                                                    
     By  1892,  thirty-seven  canneries had  been  built  in                                                                    
     Alaska.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Gillnets  had been  used to  some degree  in the  silty                                                                    
     waters  of Cook  Inlet from  the beginning.  Setnetters                                                                    
     fished  between traps  in the  early  days. After  fish                                                                    
     traps  were outlawed,  independent fishermen  continued                                                                    
     to  catch  salmon  with  gillnets to  be  sold  at  the                                                                    
     canneries.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Coleman discussed slide 6, "Upper Cook Inlet Setnet                                                                         
Area":                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     736 Set net permits in Upper Cook Inlet                                                                                    
     5 districts:                                                                                                               
          ? Northern District                                                                                                 
          ? Kalgin Island District                                                                                            
          ? Western District                                                                                                  
          ? Southern District                                                                                                 
          ? Central District Upper (Eastside)                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     The Eastside  spans approximately 60 miles  and is home                                                                    
     to the two most popular rivers in the State of Alaska:                                                                     
     The Kenai and Kasilof Rivers.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     The Cook  Inlet fleet  reduction opportunity  will only                                                                    
     be available to the Eastside setnet fishery.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:02:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Coleman highlighted slide 7, "1973 Limited Entry":                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     In 1972,  Alaskan's voted to amend  the constitution to                                                                    
     create  a fisheries  limitation  system (Article  VIII,                                                                    
     Sec. 15).  The Alaska Legislature approved  the Limited                                                                    
     Entry Act  in 1973  and created CFEC  as an  exempt and                                                                    
     independent  agency to  carry  out the  mandate of  the                                                                    
     people and the legislature.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     The   mission  of   the   Commercial  Fisheries   Entry                                                                    
     Commission   (CFEC)  is   to   limit   the  number   of                                                                    
     participants  in a  particular  fishery,  to allow  for                                                                    
     sustainable and  economic viability,  and as  a further                                                                    
     product, conservation  of the  resource for  the common                                                                    
     property into the future.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     As a result  of Limited entry the number  of Cook Inlet                                                                    
     setnet  permits  has  never  grown  from  the  original                                                                    
     number  of  746. In  2022  there  were 736  Cook  Inlet                                                                    
     Setnet permits registered.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     One Cook Inlet  setnet permit allows you  to fish three                                                                    
     nets, when regulations provide.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Coleman addressed slide 8, "1984 Permit Migration to                                                                        
the Eastside":                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     In  the  mid  to  late 1980's,  after  record  breaking                                                                    
     sockeye  runs to  the Kenai  and Kasilof  Rivers, there                                                                    
     was a  mass movement  of Cook  Inlet setnet  permits to                                                                    
     the Eastside from other Cook Inlet districts.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Setnetters  at   that  time   were  looking   for  more                                                                    
     lucrative  fishing and  processing  capability. A  Cook                                                                    
     Inlet  permit allows  a permittee  to move  anywhere in                                                                    
     Cook Inlet making the migration  legal. However, in the                                                                    
     upper sub  district known as the  Eastside Setnet site,                                                                    
     the permittee  is required to register  their intent to                                                                    
     fish a specific statistical area.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Although  the total  number of  permits  in Cook  Inlet                                                                    
     have  not  changed,  the   migration  to  the  Eastside                                                                    
     doubled the number of nets fishing around the                                                                              
     Kenai and Kasilof Rivers.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Coleman highlighted slide 9, "Cook Inlet: New Admin                                                                         
Area: Permit Buyback and Gear Reduction Act":                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act   relating  to  the   powers  of   the  Alaska                                                                    
     Commercial  Fisheries  Entry  Commission;  relating  to                                                                    
     administrative   areas   for  regulation   of   certain                                                                    
     commercial set  net entry permits; establishing  a buy-                                                                    
     back  program  for  certain   set  net  entry  permits;                                                                    
     providing for  the termination of  state set  net tract                                                                    
     leases  under  the  buy-back program;  closing  certain                                                                    
     water  to  commercial  fishing; and  providing  for  an                                                                    
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Coleman pointed to slide 10, "Reducing Permits":                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     736 Cook Inlet Permits                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
   440 permits registered to the Eastside (2022 Season)                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Senate  Bill 82  currently  proposes to  remove 200  or                                                                    
     more Eastside permits                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     440 permits = 1,320 nets on the Eastside today                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     200 permits = 600 nets on the Eastside removed                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     After fleet reduction:  some 240 permits or  less = 720                                                                    
     Eastside nets or less could remain                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Coleman discussed slide 11, "Closing Waters - Removing                                                                      
Nets":                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     • Roughly 44  percent of fishing permits  in Cook Inlet                                                                    
     have leases assigned to them                                                                                               
     • A lease is not mandatory to setnet in Cook Inlet                                                                         
     • The most crucial element  of SB 82 is closing vacated                                                                    
     tideland waters on the Eastside                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     If a  set netter voluntarily decides  to participate in                                                                    
     the  gear reduction  program that  SB  82 creates,  the                                                                    
     immediate  tideland area  associated with  their permit                                                                    
     will be retired.  It is important to  note that without                                                                    
     the closure of the  associated immediate tideland area,                                                                    
     the  result could  be a  re-migration into  vacated net                                                                    
     locations.  It  is  important  that  there  be  no  re-                                                                    
     migration  or backfill  of permits  and  nets into  the                                                                    
     retired  net  locations.  Without  the  "closed  water"                                                                    
     feature  of  SB82,  it  would result  in  a  repeat  of                                                                    
     the1980's migration  and the diluting of  the financial                                                                    
     prospects and stability for setnetters who remain.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Coleman looked at slide 12, "Voluntary Reduction                                                                            
Approved by Fleet":                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     In 2021, former Senator  Micciche conducted a survey of                                                                    
     the registered  permit holders  in the  Eastside Setnet                                                                    
     fleet.  56 percent  (229)  responded  to the  following                                                                    
     question:                                                                                                                  
     1.  Do  you  support  the concept  of  voluntary  fleet                                                                    
     reduction program  for the Cook  Inlet set  net fishery                                                                    
     that   would  cost   nothing  to   those  who   do  not                                                                    
     participate and remain fishing?                                                                                            
     An astounding 92.4 percent responded  that they were in                                                                    
     support!                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Coleman pointed to slide 13, "Estimated Value":                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     When a  setnet permit and the  accompanying tidal areas                                                                    
     are retired, the  result is a small  business that will                                                                    
     be retired forever.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     The  estimated  value  of $260,000  was  determined  by                                                                    
     taking  the average  earnings of  a setnet  permit each                                                                    
     year  over  the  prior  ten  years.  Equivalent  to  an                                                                    
     average  of  $20,000 per  year,  per  permit. Adding  a                                                                    
     number    for    tax   implications,    if    volunteer                                                                    
     participating  fishermen  are  included  in  a  buyback                                                                    
     program, they  would exit the  fishery with  a $200,000                                                                    
     sale for a  small business that in many  cases has been                                                                    
     in existence for generations.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     The remaining permits  will gain value and  will have a                                                                    
     higher price point in their gross earnings per year.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman assumed the average earnings was the net                                                                       
after operations.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Coleman agreed.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Coleman addressed slide 14, "Reduction in Setnet                                                                            
Permits":                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     For 46 years Upper Cook  Inlet Setnet permits have seen                                                                    
     a decrease  from 746 to  736 permits today.  84 percent                                                                    
     of those permits are owned by Alaska residents.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     As  a set  net permit  is retired,  three nets  will be                                                                    
     permanently removed from the  waters on the Eastside of                                                                    
     Cook Inlet.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     As a result, a higher  percentage of the available fish                                                                    
     on  a certain  day may  be harvested  by the  remaining                                                                    
     sites,  yet will  provide a  higher percentage  of fish                                                                    
     moving to the rivers overall.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Reducing the nets  by 600 will result in  a Chinook and                                                                    
     Sockeye harvest savings.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     SB 82  is the mechanism  moving forward to  provide the                                                                    
     Eastside  set   net  fleet  the  opportunity   and  the                                                                    
     capability  of harvesting  sockeye  while reducing  the                                                                    
     harvest  of non-targeted  Chinook salmon  in accordance                                                                    
     with current regulations.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Coleman addressed slide 15, "Fighting to remain viable                                                                      
- ESSN Sockeye Harvest."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Coleman looked at slide 16, "Future Generations":                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     The  Cook Inlet  Eastside Setnet  fleet reduction  will                                                                    
    work to ensure a sustainable and financially stable                                                                         
     setnet  fishery   that  will   be  around   for  future                                                                    
     generations.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     We will continue  to work with In-River  user groups to                                                                    
     ensure that the fish  entering the rivers are harvested                                                                    
     responsibly and sustainably.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Healthy limits  on every user  group will  ensure there                                                                    
     will be  healthy sustainable fisheries  for generations                                                                    
     to come.  By forming  partnerships between  user groups                                                                    
     through open  dialog and collaboration, we  can protect                                                                    
     our  resource while  enjoying  its  many benefits  well                                                                    
     into the future.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:10:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Coleman pointed to slide 17, "Collaboration by Users":                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Cook Inlet  setnet permits have  decreased in  the past                                                                    
     46 years. An Eastside setnet  fleet reduction will be a                                                                    
     start to the solution.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     The Kenai River  is home to the  largest dipnet fishery                                                                    
     in the State  of Alaska. This fishery  has increased in                                                                    
     participation   in   the   last  20   years.   Eastside                                                                    
     setnetters  will continue  to  work with  the Board  of                                                                    
     Fisheries  to ensure  healthy returns  are achieved  to                                                                    
     maximize harvestable surplus.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     The Kenai  River In-river  Sport fishery  has increased                                                                    
     in the last 20 years.  Eastside setnetters look forward                                                                    
     to  working   with  In-River  user  groups   to  ensure                                                                    
     healthy, strong and sustainable runs.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Eastside   setnetters  will   step   forward  to   work                                                                    
     collaboratively to  repair the  contentious environment                                                                    
     that  surrounds Upper  Cook  Inlet  Fisheries. We  look                                                                    
     forward to  other users  joining the  conversation. The                                                                    
     next  generation  and  our   State  of  Alaska  deserve                                                                    
     respectful  dialog  in  the  search  for  collaborative                                                                    
     solutions.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Coleman pointed to slide 18, "Letter to Erin":                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     I have fished  every Upper Cook Inlet  salmon season of                                                                    
     my life. Forty-five years, minus  however long I was in                                                                    
     diapers.  I have  never lived  without fishing.  I have                                                                    
     never lived without fish.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Seasons  have  been   bountiful.  Nets  sunk.  Fighting                                                                    
     against wind and  tide and regulations to  get our gear                                                                    
     in on time. Long hours  spent bent over picking sockeye                                                                    
     after sockeye  until my  hands were  sore, my  back was                                                                    
     sore, my  being was  sore    and I  smiled. It  was the                                                                    
     best kind of sore.  Seasons have been bleak. Waterhauls                                                                    
     and a  narrative running from,  "it's still  early," to                                                                    
     "everything  is  running  late this  year,"  to  "well,                                                                    
     there's always next year."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Good years or bad, it  has all been satisfying. Fishing                                                                    
     is not just  something I do, it  is who I am.  It is my                                                                    
     passion.  And  my  identity. Political  pressures  grew                                                                    
     along  with the  population. Our  voice doesn't  carry.                                                                    
     What does this one little  fishery matter? But to those                                                                    
     of  us who  grew up  in it,  those whose  families have                                                                    
     fished  these beaches  since  the  Territorial days  of                                                                    
     Alaska, it seems like everything.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Most of us work other  jobs in the off-season. I strove                                                                    
     to become a  veterinarian, and it is a  profession I am                                                                    
     extremely proud  of. I  love my work,  yet here  is the                                                                    
     difference.  I  became a  veterinarian.  I  was born  a                                                                    
     fisherman. People  ask what it  is like, being  a woman                                                                    
     commercial fisherman.  I tell them  I don't know.  I am                                                                    
     not trying to be cryptic; the  truth is, I knew I was a                                                                    
     fisherman before I knew I was a woman.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     I am not naive. I see  the handwriting on the wall. One                                                                    
     of  these  days, my  fishery  will  merely be  a  small                                                                    
     anecdote in Alaskan history.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     My most terrifying day of  fishing hasn't happened yet.                                                                    
     But  I  fear  it  is  close. The  day  they  close  our                                                                    
     fishery, the day  I have to figure out who  I am when I                                                                    
     am not  a fisherman?  That will  be my  most terrifying                                                                    
     day.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:12:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GLENN  HAIGHT,  COMMISSIONER,  ALASKA  COMMERCIAL  FISHERIES                                                                    
ENTRY    COMMISSION,     discussed    the    straightforward                                                                    
implementation of the bill.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:17:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman queried the required amount.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haight  responded that  it was  $15,000 after  taxes and                                                                    
expenses.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman queried the current net income.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haight agreed to provide that information.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  wondered   whether  other  fisheries  had                                                                    
problems.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Haight  replied  that  there were  a  number  of  other                                                                    
fisheries that the permits did  not get fished, but stressed                                                                    
that the others did not have  as many issues as the proposed                                                                    
segment.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  queried  the provisions  to  ensure  that                                                                    
there  were  not  frontrunning and  other  issues  with  the                                                                    
Southeast buyback.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bjorkman replied in the affirmative.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:21:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  surmised that there were  some set netters                                                                    
that had  zero income,  and requested  a calculation  of the                                                                    
gross and expected net income.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bjorkman   replied  that  studies  could   be  very                                                                    
invasive  on the  set  netters. He  stated  that the  latest                                                                    
analysis was less invasive.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Jackson furthered that the  $20,000 value was the result                                                                    
of examining a normal fishing year.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:26:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  wondered whether it  would be a  model for                                                                    
buybacks and other precents for other fisheries.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Haight replied  what was  seen in  Cook Inlet  could be                                                                    
seen in  most fisheries. He  felt that it would  inform what                                                                    
was done within  ten years. He stressed that  there could be                                                                    
other solutions in other areas.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bjorkman stated  that the  process would  provide a                                                                    
way  for the  commercial setnet  industry in  Cook Inlet  to                                                                    
survive.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman wondered  whether  there  was no  economic                                                                    
base, would there be a stop to fishing.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bjorkman  replied that reducing the  amount of gear,                                                                    
the ability to fish increases  so less salmon would be taken                                                                    
in the industry.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:31:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman requested the market value of the permit.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haight replied  that the permit was  fairly volatile, so                                                                    
there  were swings  in the  permit values  from $225,000  to                                                                    
$40,000.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Jackson  stated that there  was not a  great possibility                                                                    
for purchasing of others' permits.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  surmised that  the opportunity  for profit                                                                    
on permits was closed.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bjorkman agreed.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:34:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LOREN LEMAN, SELF, ANCHORAGE  (via teleconference), spoke in                                                                    
support of the bill.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman stressed  that Alaska became a  state to be                                                                    
rid of fish traps.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Leman agreed.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:39:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TIM  KEENER,  SELF,  KENAI (via  teleconference),  spoke  in                                                                    
support of the bill.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:44:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SARAH  FROSTAD-HUDKINS,  SELF, KENAI  (via  teleconference),                                                                    
spoke in support of the bill.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:46:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LISA  GABRIEL, SELF,  KENAI (via  teleconference), spoke  in                                                                    
support of the legislation.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson OPENED public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:48:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GARY  HOLLIER, SELF,  KENAI (via  teleconference), spoke  in                                                                    
support of the gear reduction.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:51:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GARY DEIMAN, SELF, NINILCHIK  (via teleconference), spoke in                                                                    
support of the bill.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:52:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALLAN   CROOKSTON,   SELF,   KENAI   (via   teleconference),                                                                    
testified in support of the bill.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:55:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DOUGLAS  M. BLOSSOM,  SELF, NINILCHIK  (via teleconference),                                                                    
spoke in support of the legislation.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:57:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RUSSEL  CLARK, SELF,  KENAI (via  teleconference), spoke  in                                                                    
support of the legislation.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:00:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GREG   JOHNSON,   SELF,  VANCOUVER   (via   teleconference),                                                                    
testified in support of the bill.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:02:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TEAGUE   VANEK,   SELF,  NINILCHIK   (via   teleconference),                                                                    
testified in opposition of the bill.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:05:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TED CROOKSTON,  SELF, KENAI  (via teleconference),  spoke in                                                                    
support of the bill.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:06:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STEVE VANEK, SELF, NINILCHIK  (via teleconference), spoke in                                                                    
opposition to the bill.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:09:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOANN WICHERS,  SELF, KENAI (via  teleconference), testified                                                                    
in support of the bill.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:10:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVID WICHERS,  SELF, KENAI  (via teleconference),  spoke in                                                                    
support of the legislation.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:11:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN MANLEY, SELF, KENAI  (via teleconference), testified in                                                                    
support of the bill.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:12:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRUCE MANLEY,  SELF, KASILOF (via teleconference),  spoke in                                                                    
support of the legislation.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:13:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CODY  BLOSSOM,   SELF,  CLAM  GULCH   (via  teleconference),                                                                    
testified in support of the bill.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:14:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT WILLIAMS, SELF, KASILOF (via teleconference), spoke                                                                      
in support to the legislation.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:16:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RUDY    WILSON,   COOK    INLET   FISHERIES,    KENAI   (via                                                                    
teleconference), spoke in support of the bill.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:17:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOSEPH LEMAN, SELF, ANCHORAGE (via teleconference), spoke                                                                       
in support of the bill.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:19:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVID MARTIN, SELF, CLAM GULCH (via teleconference),                                                                            
testified in opposition to the bill.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:22:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HARRY   LEMAN,   SELF,   NINILCHIK   (via   teleconference),                                                                    
testified in support of the legislation.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:23:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bjorkman thanked the committee.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SB 82 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                               
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 34 Sponsor Statement Version B 2.1.23.pdf SFIN 2/19/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 34
SB 34 Supporting Doc CACFA Audit Report 4.8.20.pdf SFIN 2/19/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 34
SB 34 Supporting Doc CACFA Audit Summary Kris Curtis 3.13.23.pdf SFIN 4/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SFIN 2/19/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 34
SB 34 Letters of Support Received as of 3.29.23.pdf SFIN 4/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SFIN 2/19/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 34
SB 34 Sectional Analysis Version B 2.15.23.pdf SFIN 2/19/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 34
SB 34 Public Testimony rec'd 041723.pdf SFIN 4/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SFIN 2/19/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 34
SB 34 02-07-22 BLM Response to ATA Trapping Cabin.pdf SFIN 2/19/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 34
SB 34 DNR OPMP 041423.pdf SFIN 2/19/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 34
SB 82 Supporting Documents-Upper Cook Inlet Management Area Statistical Areas.pdf SFIN 2/19/2024 1:30:00 PM
SRES 4/17/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 82
SB 82 Supporting Documents-News Article Peninsula Clarion 03.24.23.pdf SFIN 2/19/2024 1:30:00 PM
SRES 4/17/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 82
SB 82 Supporting Documents-News Article KDLL Radio 03.02.23.pdf SFIN 2/19/2024 1:30:00 PM
SRES 4/17/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 82
SB 82 Supporting Documents-News Article ADN 8.12.21.pdf SFIN 2/19/2024 1:30:00 PM
SRES 4/17/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 82
SB 82 Supporting Documents-Eastside Setnet Area Map.pdf SFIN 2/19/2024 1:30:00 PM
SRES 4/17/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 82
SB 82 Supporting Documents-DNR Shore Lease Fishery Sites Map 01.18.18.pdf SFIN 2/19/2024 1:30:00 PM
SRES 4/17/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 82
SB 82 Supporting Documents-DNR Shore Fishery Leasing Fact Sheet 10.1.2010.pdf SFIN 2/19/2024 1:30:00 PM
SRES 4/17/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 82
SB 82 Sponsor Statement.pdf SFIN 2/19/2024 1:30:00 PM
SRES 4/17/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 82
SB 82 Sectional Analysis ver A.pdf SFIN 2/19/2024 1:30:00 PM
SRES 4/17/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 82
SB 82 UFA Comment Letter SB 82 HB 195.pdf SFIN 2/19/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 195
SB 82
SB 82 ECA Presentation to SFIN.pdf SFIN 2/19/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 82
SB 82 Testimony Beaudoin.pdf SFIN 2/19/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 82
SB 82 Letter of Support-Sen. Sullivan 05.13.23.pdf SFIN 2/19/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 82
SB 82 Research_CFEC Optimum Numbers Study.pdf SFIN 2/19/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 82
SB 82 Opposition Martin.pdf SFIN 2/19/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 82
SB 34 DNR OPMP 021524.pdf SFIN 2/19/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 34
SB 82 DGF CFEC 021624.pdf SFIN 2/19/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 82
SB 82 DGF DCF 021624.pdf SFIN 2/19/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 82
SB 82 DNR DMLW 021724.pdf SFIN 2/19/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 82
SB 82 Support Testimony Arno AOC.pdf SFIN 2/19/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 82
SB 82 Opposition Testimony Packet 1.pdf SFIN 2/19/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 82
SB 34 work draft version S.pdf SFIN 2/19/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 34
SB 34 CS in SFin summary of changes 2-19-24.pdf SFIN 2/19/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 34
SB 34 DNR OPMP 021524.pdf SFIN 2/19/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 34
SB 82 Support Testimony Packet 022624.pdf SFIN 2/19/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 82
SB 82 Support Testimony Packet 031024.pdf SFIN 2/19/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 82