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02/09/2026 01:30 PM Senate LABOR & COMMERCE

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01:34:16 PM Start
01:35:19 PM SB81
01:54:45 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
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+= SB 121 HEALTH INSURANCE ALLOWABLE CHARGES TELECONFERENCED
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-- Public Testimony <Time Limit May Be Set> --
+= SB 81 PUBLIC EMPLOYER PENSION CONTRIBUTIONS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 81(L&C) Out of Committee
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**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
          SB  81-PUBLIC EMPLOYER PENSION CONTRIBUTIONS                                                                      
1:35:19 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN announced the consideration  of SENATE BILL NO. 81                                                               
"An Act relating to employer  contribution rates in the teachers'                                                               
retirement system and the Public  Employees' Retirement System of                                                               
Alaska; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                   
[At  the  last  hearing  of  the bill  the  committee  adopted  a                                                               
conceptual amendment to SB 81, work order 34-LS0110\A.]                                                                         
1:36:37 PM                                                                                                                    
MARGEAUX, LJUNGBERG,  Staff, Senator  Bert Stedman,  Alaska State                                                               
Legislature,  Juneau, Alaska,  presented a  brief summary  for SB
81.  She  said  the  legislation would  remove  the  existing  22                                                               
percent  cap and  allow the  Alaska  Retirement Management  (ARM)                                                               
Board the flexibility  to set a rate that better  aligns with the                                                               
actuarially determined rate.                                                                                                    
1:37:22 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DUNBAR  asked  if  SB   81  effectively  eliminates  the                                                               
existing 22  percent statutory  cap, then why  does the  bill not                                                               
include a repealer.                                                                                                             
1:37:50 PM                                                                                                                    
DAN  WAYNE,   Legislative  Counsel,  Alaska   State  Legislature,                                                               
Juneau,  Alaska, answered  questions regarding  SB 81.  He stated                                                               
his belief that SB 81 does  not eliminate the cap. Instead, SB 81                                                               
states  that, "notwithstanding  (a) of  this section,  the annual                                                               
employer  contribution  rate  may  not  be  less  than  the  rate                                                               
sufficient  to allow  payment  of the  employer  normal cost;  an                                                               
amount   calculated    at   the    rate   certified    under   AS                                                               
37.10.220(a)(8),  and the  employer contributions  required under                                                               
AS 39.30.370 and AS 39.35.750."                                                                                                 
1:38:44 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR    DUNBAR    stated    his   understanding    that    the                                                               
"notwithstanding"  language, combined  with line  2,  on page  2,                                                               
creates an exception that effectively  renders the 22 percent cap                                                               
a dead letter  in many circumstances. He asked  why this approach                                                               
was taken instead  of repealing the 22 percent  cap outright, and                                                               
are there situations where the cap would still apply.                                                                           
1:39:25 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  WAYNE answered  that  the  22 percent  cap  would remain  in                                                               
effect,  while   adding  SB   81  adds   a  safeguard   under  AS                                                               
39.35.255(a) requiring  that, regardless of the  calculated rate,                                                               
the contribution must be sufficient  to cover the three specified                                                               
costs listed on page 2 of the bill.                                                                                             
1:40:15 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR referred  to SB 81, page 2, and  asked whether the                                                               
three items listed  serve as the only factors  that determine the                                                               
rate or whether additional factors  might hypothetically push the                                                               
price  above  22  percent but  face  disallowance.  He  requested                                                               
examples of  situations in which  the 22 percent cap  would still                                                               
apply despite other influencing factors.                                                                                        
1:41:05 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. WAYNE  replied he does not  know how to answer  the question.                                                               
he stated  his belief that the  22 percent cap remains  in effect                                                               
and  that  [AS 39.35.255](d)  is  intended  to ensure  the  three                                                               
requirements on page two are funded.                                                                                            
1:41:32 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR asked for clarity stating  if the rate is under 22                                                               
percent, the  cap is irrelevant;  if the cap exceeds  22 percent,                                                               
the cap does  not applymaking  the 22 percent  effectively a dead                                                               
letter  unless  other costs  are  typically  included beyond  the                                                               
three items listed in the bill.                                                                                                 
1:42:23 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  WAYNE replied  that  the  committee might  need  to ask  the                                                               
Department of  Retirement and Benefits  whether the  policy needs                                                               
to have AS 39.35.255(d)(a).                                                                                                     
1:43:08 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DUNBAR  commented  that   the  presentation  by  Senator                                                               
Stedman  indicates  that  SB 81  effectively  eliminates  the  22                                                               
percent  cap.  He said  rather  than  repealing  the cap,  SB  81                                                               
creates  such a  broad exception  that the  cap can  never apply,                                                               
which  is   confusing  and  inelegant  drafting.   While  it  may                                                               
accomplish  the policy  goal, the  statute becomes  misleading to                                                               
the public, the approach is unclear and difficult to follow.                                                                    
1:45:04 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN continued  with  public testimony  from the  last                                                               
meeting on SB 81.                                                                                                               
1:45:28 PM                                                                                                                    
CHRIS NOEL, Mayor, Denali Borough,  Healy, Alaska, testified with                                                               
concerns on SB 81.                                                                                                              
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
     For the record,  my name is Chris Noel, and  I serve as                                                                    
     Mayor  of  the  Denali   Borough.  Thank  you  for  the                                                                    
     opportunity to testify on SB 81.                                                                                           
     The  Denali  Borough  understands the  state's  revenue                                                                    
     shortfall  and the  pressure it  creates.  SB 81  would                                                                    
     allow the state to  increase (or decrease) the Employer                                                                    
     contribution for  PERS and TERS,  allowing it  to shift                                                                    
     the  costs   of  the  unfunded  liability   onto  local                                                                    
     governments  and school  districts. This  is at  a time                                                                    
     when  costs  continue to  rise  and  state support  has                                                                    
     remained flat  or declined depending on  the program or                                                                    
     department.                                                                                                                
     The  borough has  regularly  advocated for  maintaining                                                                    
     the   22   percent   employer  contribution   cap   and                                                                    
     appreciates   the  Committees   consideration  of   the                                                                    
     municipal impact of breaking away from the cap.                                                                            
     Changing  to  an  annual Alaska  Retirement  Management                                                                    
     Board  adjusted  contribution would  impose  additional                                                                    
     complexity  and  shift   the  unfunded  liability  onto                                                                    
     municipalities.                                                                                                            
1:47:27 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN closed public testimony on SB 81.                                                                                
1:47:44 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN commented  that SB  81  does exactly  what it  is                                                               
supposed to do. He read the fiscal note as follows:                                                                             
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
     This  bill increases  the annual  employer contribution                                                                    
     rate by  requiring an additional  employer contribution                                                                    
     amount to be calculated at  the rate certified under AS                                                                    
     37.10.220(a)(8)   for   both  the   Public   Employees'                                                                    
     Retirement System and the Teachers' Retirement System.                                                                     
CHAIR  BJORKMAN   said  the   committee  removed   the  Teachers'                                                               
Retirement System  from AS  37.10.220(a)(8) because  teachers are                                                               
not subject to the 22 percent cap.                                                                                              
     This bill  will cause employers who  participate in the                                                                    
     PERS  and  TRS retirement  plans  to  pay more  towards                                                                    
     liquidating past  service liability of the  plans. This                                                                    
     bill   will   take   effect   immediately   [under   AS                                                                    
     01.10.070(c).]                                                                                                             
CHAIR  BJORKMAN  stated  that   this  proposal  amounts  to  cost                                                               
shifting from  the state  to local  governments, even  though the                                                               
problem  stems  from  the state's  past  decisions,  underfunding                                                               
retirement  plans in  the  1990s and  relying  on poor  actuarial                                                               
assumptions.  He said  by deferring  required contributions,  the                                                               
state  created  the  current   liability,  much  like  postponing                                                               
mortgage payments  only to face  higher costs later. SB  81 would                                                               
effectively  undo  prior  agreements with  municipalities,  erode                                                               
public trust, and  force local governments to raise  taxes or cut                                                               
services, even  though no  alternative plan  has been  offered to                                                               
generate  the  additional  state  revenue needed  to  meet  these                                                               
obligations. The state's options are limited  but not impossible.                                                               
He  stated he  is not  convinced SB  81 solves  any problems,  it                                                               
mainly highlights the ones the state already has.                                                                               
1:53:16 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN solicited the will of the committee.                                                                             
1:53:27 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR moved to report  SB 81, work order 34-LS0110\A, as                                                               
amended,  from  committee  with  individual  recommendations  and                                                               
attached fiscal note(s) and  authorize Legislative Legal Services                                                               
to make technical and conforming changes.                                                                                       
1:53:54 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN found  no objection and CSSB  81(L&C) was reported                                                               
from  the  Senate  Labor  and  Commerce  Standing  Committee  and                                                               
authorize  Legislative  Legal  Services  to  make  technical  and                                                               
conforming changes.                                                                                                             

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