Legislature(2007 - 2008)BUTROVICH 205

03/29/2007 03:30 PM Senate JUDICIARY


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= SB 78 MOTOR VEHICLE WINDOW TINTING
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              SB  78-MOTOR VEHICLE WINDOW TINTING                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:14:22 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR FRENCH  announced the consideration  of SB 78.  He reminded                                                               
members  of the  amendment made  during the  last hearing,  which                                                               
reduced  the  offense  from  a   misdemeanor  to  an  infraction-                                                               
essentially  a  traffic  ticket.  Additional  packet  information                                                               
included  a supporting  letter from  the Fairbanks  police chief,                                                               
and three  news articles reporting  a shooting and  two accidents                                                               
that related to window tinting.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:15:25 PM                                                                                                                    
OFFICER STEVE  DUNN, Traffic  Unit, Anchorage  Police Department,                                                               
stated  that  tinting  is  a huge  officer  safety  concern  when                                                               
approaching a stopped vehicle and he absolutely supports SB 78.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:16:52 PM                                                                                                                    
RODNEY DIAL,  Alaska State Troopers.,  said the  troopers support                                                               
SB 78 and  the current window tinting standards in  the state. He                                                               
delivered a  PowerPoint presentation giving an  overview of state                                                               
and federal law as well as  examples of window tints. He made the                                                               
following points:                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
   · Current law allows the front window to have a five inch                                                                    
     strip of tint on the top of the windshield.                                                                                
   · The front driver and passenger windows must allow 70                                                                       
     percent of the light to pass through the glass, which is in                                                                
     accordance with federal law.                                                                                               
   · All rear windows must allow 40 percent light transmittance                                                                 
     with exemptions for certain special-use vehicles, which                                                                    
     must comply with federal law.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH asked what a special-use vehicle is.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
LT. DIAL said those include limousines, SUVs, and pickup trucks.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THERRIAULT pointed out that  the Subaru station wagon and                                                               
the Subaru  Forrester are practically  the same vehicle,  but the                                                               
Forrester  is classified  as  an  SUV so  it  has very  different                                                               
tinting requirements.  To a certain  extent the rules  don't make                                                               
any sense, he said.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  asked Lt.  Dial if  he knows  the rationale                                                               
for the difference between SUVs and other cars.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
LT. DIAL said  his understanding is the Alaska law  is made to be                                                               
similar to federal law.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS asked  for an example of  a multipurpose vehicle.                                                               
He asked  if it would be  like the difference between  an Outback                                                               
and a Forrester.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
LT. DIAL said that's our  understanding. As enforcement officers,                                                               
the windows  we concentrate on are  the ones where the  driver is                                                               
going to be able  to see other people and we will  be able to see                                                               
the driver, he stated.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH  commented  that from  an  enforcement  perspective                                                               
officers have  to be able to  tell the difference between  an SUV                                                               
and a passenger car and to know that different rules apply.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
LT.  DIAL agreed.  He continued  the PowerPoint  presentation and                                                               
made the following points:                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
   · Federal law doesn't specify light transmission requirements                                                                
    for privately owned vehicles after they're manufacture.                                                                     
   · Federal law regulates commercial vehicles.                                                                                 
   · At least 13  other states have similar,  or more restrictive                                                               
     laws.                                                                                                                      
   · 90  percent  of  Canadian  provinces have  similar  or  more                                                               
     restrictive laws.                                                                                                          
   · Most of the  United Kingdom has similar  or more restrictive                                                               
     laws.                                                                                                                      
   · Five  states allow  50 percent  light transmittance  through                                                               
     the front side  windows and 31 states allow a  range from 20                                                               
     percent to 40 percent. Generally  the hotter the climate the                                                               
     darker the tint allowed.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
LT. DIAL  clarified that  more restrictive  laws means  that less                                                               
tint is  allowed. For  example New York  doesn't allow  any tint,                                                               
which is similar to Alaska law. He continued:                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
   · Driving at  night with tinted  windows is about the  same as                                                               
     driving at  night with sunglasses. Sunglasses  are regulated                                                               
     by  the Food  and Drug  Administration and  on average  they                                                               
     must let through at least 40 percent of the visible light.                                                                 
   · A variety of  filter colors lets different  amounts of light                                                               
     through.                                                                                                                   
   · In a Texas murder case  three problems were caused by tinted                                                               
     windows.  1)witnesses had  difficulty identifying  suspects;                                                               
     2)when  police spotted  the  suspect  vehicle they  couldn't                                                               
     determine who  was in  the car, 3)when  an officer  tried to                                                               
     get a suspect  to exit the car one of  the occupants used an                                                               
     assault rifle  and shot and  killed the officer  through the                                                               
     window.  Texas  allows  a  fairly heavy  tint  on  the  side                                                               
     windows.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH noted  that Texas allows about the  opposite of what                                                               
Alaska allows.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
LT. DIAL agreed.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THERRIAULT  pointed out that  none of the  incidents that                                                               
have been  cited say whether  the windows were tinted  legally or                                                               
not.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH  said that's true  but the  point is that  it should                                                               
also be  illegal to install that  level of tint. The  idea behind                                                               
the bill is  that installing the tint is just  as against the law                                                               
as driving the car.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THERRIAULT said  his constituents  in  Fairbanks and  he                                                               
certainly don't  support blacking  out windows.  At issue  is the                                                               
level of tinting that should be allowed.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
LT. DIAL gave examples of problems related to heavy tinting.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
   · In Chicago a police officer couldn't see through a tinted                                                                  
     window and accidentally shot a passenger holding a cell                                                                    
     phone-not a gun.                                                                                                           
   · Numerous examples of criminals that couldn't be identified                                                                 
     because witnesses couldn't see the driver through the                                                                      
    tinted window. Hit and run accidents are a big problem.                                                                     
   · Collisions with motor vehicles and pedestrians are blamed                                                                  
     on poor visibility due to tinted windows.                                                                                  
   · Tinted windows can prevent criminal activity occurring in a                                                                
     vehicle from being identified.                                                                                             
   · Heavy tinting can keep motorists from viewing the road                                                                     
     ahead when looking through the car in front.                                                                               
   · Night vision can be impaired.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
LT.  DIAL showed  tinting examples  ranging from  light to  heavy                                                               
limo-tinting. Light  tinting severely  limits the ability  to see                                                               
into  a vehicle  and  it's  virtually impossible  to  see into  a                                                               
vehicle with  medium or heavy  tinting, he stated. Low  light and                                                               
night light compounds  the problem. He showed  examples in Alaska                                                               
of  a  stock Ford  Explorer  with  20  percent rear  window  tint                                                               
meaning that 80 percent of the  light is blocked; a Dodge Durango                                                               
with  20 percent  tint on  the  front driver  and passenger  side                                                               
windows and  80 percent tint  on the  back windows; and  a Toyota                                                               
passenger car with illegal tint on the back windows.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:30:10 PM                                                                                                                    
LT. DIAL  gave the  following reasons not  to change  the current                                                               
law:                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
   · Current standard assures that Alaska vehicles comply with                                                                  
     tinting laws in most states and Canadian provinces.                                                                        
   · Increased visibility for the driver.                                                                                       
   · Increased safety for pedestrians.                                                                                          
   · Increased safety for law enforcement officers.                                                                             
   ·                                                                                                                            
LT. DIAL said the Alaska State Troopers support SB 78 because:                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
   · It protects the public from unethical installers who tint                                                                  
     windows knowing it is illegal. About 1,000 citations per                                                                   
     year are written for this type of offense.                                                                                 
   · Holding installers accountable will reduce citations to                                                                    
     motorists. Some states require installers to conspicuously                                                                 
     post a copy of the state law regarding window tinting and                                                                  
     provide a copy in writing.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
LT. DIAL offered to demonstrate the tint meter.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:31:23 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR FRENCH  commented that  the statement  that you  can always                                                               
wear sunglasses  on a sunny  day, but  you can't take  off window                                                               
tint at night is a worthwhile observation.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked  if it's illegal for an  owner to have                                                               
tinted  windows, but  it's not  illegal for  an installer  to put                                                               
illegal window tinting on windows.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
LT. DIAL said that is correct.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked  if most of the people  that are cited                                                               
for driving with illegal tinting realize that it's illegal.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
LT.  DIAL explained  that most  people claim  ignorance and  then                                                               
they get angry. A motorist is  given three choices when he/she is                                                               
cited: 1)take  the citation  to court;  2)remove the  tinting and                                                               
the  ticket will  be dismissed;  3)pay a  $150 fine.  The problem                                                               
with  the  last  option  is  that  the  motorist  is  subject  to                                                               
subsequent citations. In 90 percent  of the cases the people will                                                               
try  to remove  the tinting  themselves, but  it's generally  not                                                               
successful, he stated.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked  what it costs to  install tinting and                                                               
LT. Dial said he didn't know.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH asked for a demonstration.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
LT. DIAL showed the standard  issue tint meter and explained that                                                               
it indicates the  amount of light that passes through  a piece of                                                               
glass.  It doesn't  measure tint.  The  instrument is  calibrated                                                               
before and after  a motorist's window is tested to  make sure the                                                               
meter  is  accurate, he  said.  He  further  pointed out  that  a                                                               
representation of  what a  driver sees when  he/she looks  out is                                                               
not a  good representation of what  it's like to look  into a car                                                               
unless there  is interior illumination. When  the installers said                                                               
that you  don't get the  full effect  of the tinting  unless it's                                                               
installed they were being very honest, he stated.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THERRIAULT commented  that windshields,  other than  the                                                               
five inch  strip at  the top,  can have no  tint other  than what                                                               
comes from the manufacturer.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LT. DIAL said according to  the Department of Transportation, the                                                               
windshield needs to have a 70 percent light transmittance.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH  asked if  the  committee  hadn't heard  that  most                                                               
factory glass is the 70 percent light transmittance standard.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
LT. DIAL  said that is  his experience. In response  to questions                                                               
he advised  that the meter  for a  windshield and for  back glass                                                               
has two parts and is much  larger. He didn't know what the meters                                                               
cost.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
LT. DIAL showed a Fairbanks  demonstration piece that had a limo-                                                               
tint  that  is basically  black  and  a  20 percent  tint  that's                                                               
allowed in New Mexico.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THERRIAULT commented that his  experience is that when an                                                               
officer  approaches  a  stopped  vehicle  at  night  the  officer                                                               
typically uses a flashlight to  illuminate the interior. He asked                                                               
how well that works.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
LT. DIAL  explained that unless  the light  is on inside  the car                                                               
the outside light  is filtered as it goes in  through the window,                                                               
is  reflected  on  the  surface inside,  and  is  reflected  back                                                               
outside.  "It's  very difficult  to  see  through there  and  see                                                               
what's going on in the vehicle," he stated.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:41:22 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  asked if it  is his opinion that  passing a                                                               
law allowing  darker tinting would  place public  safety officers                                                               
at greater risk.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
LT. DIAL said yes.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH announced  that he would hold SB 78  in committee so                                                               
that the amendment that was  passed at the previous hearing could                                                               
be incorporated into a committee substitute.                                                                                    

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