Legislature(2025 - 2026)BUTROVICH 205

02/13/2025 03:30 PM Senate HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES

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03:30:31 PM Start
03:31:21 PM Presentation(s): Expanding Eligibility for Alaska's Infant Learning Program
04:08:37 PM SB76
04:39:09 PM SB60
04:41:16 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
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+ Presentation: Governor’s Council on TELECONFERENCED
Disabilities and Special Education
+= SB 76 COMPLEX CARE RESIDENTIAL HOMES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
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Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled
+= SB 60 ESTABLISH ME/CHRONIC FATIGUE SYNDROME DAY TELECONFERENCED
Moved SB 60 Out of Committee
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
              SB  76-COMPLEX CARE RESIDENTIAL HOMES                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:08:37 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DUNBAR  announced the  consideration of  SENATE BILL  NO. 76                                                              
"An  Act   relating  to  complex   care  residential   homes;  and                                                              
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:08:51 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DUNBAR opened public testimony on SB 76.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:09:18 PM                                                                                                                    
KIM   CHAMPNEY,   Executive  Director,   Alaska   Association   on                                                              
Developmental Disabilities,  Juneau, Alaska, testified  in support                                                              
of SB 76. She  stated that their 109 member  organizations provide                                                              
home and community-based  Medicaid waiver services  to individuals                                                              
with developmental  disabilities across  the state. She  described                                                              
a  recurring  cycle  where  individuals  with  complex  behavioral                                                              
needs lose  service providers,  often following  an incident,  and                                                              
then cycle through  hospitals or the Alaska  Psychiatric Institute                                                              
(API)  until  another   provider  is  foundfrequently    one  with                                                              
limited experience  and inadequate resources. She  emphasized that                                                              
these  unstable transitions  are  traumatic  for both  individuals                                                              
receiving care,  the direct support  staff involved,  and provider                                                              
organizations.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CHAMPNEY expressed  that the  current system  is not  working                                                              
and  acknowledged the  need for  a different  approach to  service                                                              
delivery.  She  affirmed  AADD's  support  for SB  76,  which  she                                                              
described as  a step toward developing  a new type  of residential                                                              
setting not  currently available  in Alaska.  She added  that AADD                                                              
looks  forward  to working  with  the  Departments of  Health  and                                                              
Family and Community Services as service details are developed.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:11:37 PM                                                                                                                    
DAVID  WALLACE, Chief  Executive Officer,  Matsu Regional  Medical                                                              
Center, Palmer,  Alaska, testified  in support  of SB 76  and said                                                              
he  spoke on  behalf of  the 1,000  employees  at Mat-Su  Regional                                                              
Medical Center. He  described the case of a patient  with dementia                                                              
who  had ten  emergency room  visits due  to unmanaged  behavioral                                                              
health needs while  residing at the Pioneer Home  in Palmer. After                                                              
being discharged  from the  Pioneer Home and  spending 50  days in                                                              
the  emergency   departmentdesigned   for  short-term   carestaff                                                               
experienced   distress   and   frustration   over  the   lack   of                                                              
appropriate placement options.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. WALLACE explained  that despite extensive  collaboration among                                                              
care teams, guardians,  and state agencies, no  suitable placement                                                              
could be  found for weeks due  to the complexity of  the patient's                                                              
needs  and limited  licensed facilities.  Eventually, a  placement                                                              
was secured  in a home appropriately  licensed and  staffed, which                                                              
he personally  helped the  patient transition  into. He  described                                                              
the new  setting as ideal  and commended  the care team.  He urged                                                              
support for  SB 76,  which he believes  will help prevent  similar                                                              
situations  and ensure proper  care for  individuals with  complex                                                              
needs.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:16:27 PM                                                                                                                    
JARED   KOSIN,   President,   Alaska   Hospital   and   Healthcare                                                              
Association, Anchorage,  Alaska, testified in support of SB 76 and                                                              
described  the  legislation  as  a necessary  step  to  address  a                                                              
chronic issue  affecting Alaska's  healthcare system.  He reported                                                              
that, based on  monthly hospital surveys, an increasing  number of                                                              
patients remain in  acute care settings despite  no longer needing                                                              
hospitalization. This  is due to a lack of  appropriate post-acute                                                              
care  placements.   Patients  are   stuck  in  the   most  complex                                                              
expensive  environment in  the  healthcare  system. The  hospitals                                                              
caring  for them  loose key  resources  without reimbursement.  He                                                              
noted that these  patients occupy one out of every  seven hospital                                                              
beds  in Alaska,  resulting  in  over 43,500  additional  hospital                                                              
days in  2023 alone.  He emphasized  that a  major reason  for the                                                              
created gridlock is  the absence of services for  individuals with                                                              
complex  needs. He stated  that SB  76 would  create complex  care                                                              
residential homes  providing a more appropriate,  lower-level care                                                              
setting  in communities,  helping  to ease  hospital  overcrowding                                                              
and  reduce unnecessary  admissions.  He  urged the  committee  to                                                              
pass the  SB 76 as  a critical first  step in expanding  access to                                                              
care.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:18:29 PM                                                                                                                    
PHILLIP TAFS, representing  self, Anchorage, Alaska,  testified in                                                              
support of  SB 76. He  said that as  a consultant for  the Complex                                                              
Behavior  Collaborative (CBC)  for  over a  decade, he  emphasized                                                              
that  creating a  stable,  well-trained complex  care  residential                                                              
home  system  is  the  most impactful  step  Alaska  can  take  to                                                              
stabilize   services  for  individuals   with  severe   behavioral                                                              
challenges.  He   described  a  revolving  door   pattern  between                                                              
hospitals,  the Alaska Psychiatric  Institute (API),  out-of-state                                                              
placements,  and waiver-funded  homes  unequipped  to handle  such                                                              
cases. He  stated that this cycle  is both financially  costly and                                                              
deeply   harmful    to   individuals,   leading    to   behavioral                                                              
deterioration  and  reduced  options for  future  transitions.  He                                                              
cited  longstanding  research,  including   the  original  Western                                                              
Interstate Commission  for Higher  Education (WICHE)  report, that                                                              
has  consistently  identified this  gap  in  the system.  He  also                                                              
shared  a  recent  tragic  case of  a  young  Alaskan  who  cycled                                                              
through  six to  seven  placements  in one  year  due  to lack  of                                                              
appropriate care  and ultimately  died, emphasizing that  the cost                                                              
and  human toll  of the  current  system far  exceed  the cost  of                                                              
building the  right infrastructure.  He strongly urged  passage of                                                              
the SB 76 to address this urgent and unmet need.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:21:27 PM                                                                                                                    
LUCY   BAUER,   Representative,   Alaska  Assisted   Living   Home                                                              
Association,  Anchorage, Alaska,  testified in  support of  SB 76.                                                              
She said  she is a  provider operating a  large home  in Anchorage                                                              
for  residents  with  mental health  conditions  since  1999.  She                                                              
described the challenges  she regularly faces,  including frequent                                                              
crises and threats,  and stated that while she loves  her work and                                                              
the people  she serves, Alaska's  mental health system  is missing                                                              
a critical  piece. She expressed hope  that SB 76 will  serve as a                                                              
vital  bridge between  hospitals  and assisted  living homes.  She                                                              
shared  a  tragic example  of  a  29-year-old  man placed  in  the                                                              
Department  of Corrections (DOC).  He required  a higher  level of                                                              
care, but  no facility would accept  him, and five days  later, he                                                              
died  in jail.  She  emphasized her  25  years  of experience  and                                                              
stressed  the  urgent   need  for  a  proper  system   to  support                                                              
vulnerable  adults. She thanked  the Governor,  the Department  of                                                              
Health, and  others supporting the  bill, expressing  optimism for                                                              
the positive changes SB 76 could bring.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:23:54 PM                                                                                                                    
JAMIE ELKHILL,  Vice President, Youth  and Transitional  Age Youth                                                              
(TAY) Services,  Volunteers of America (VOA) Alaska,  Eagle River,                                                              
Alaska,  testified  in  support  of SB  76.  She  emphasized  that                                                              
complex care residential  homes would provide a  less restrictive,                                                              
stable, and  supportive environment  for youth, young  adults, and                                                              
familiesreducing   hospitalizations  and  out-of-state  placements                                                              
while  keeping individuals  close  to their  support systems.  She                                                              
shared that  her organization, Volunteers  of America  Alaska (VOA                                                              
Alaska), regularly  sees the effects of this gap,  including youth                                                              
who relapse  into substance use  or self-destructive  behavior due                                                              
to unstable  post-treatment  living environments.  She noted  that                                                              
during clinical  reviews, 30  percent of youth  ages 13 to  18 who                                                              
completed treatment  relapsed due to lack of support,  with actual                                                              
rates likely  higher. She  concluded that  this legislation  would                                                              
not only  improve individual  outcomes but  also reduce  strain on                                                              
other  systems, such  as  hospitals, psychiatric  facilities,  the                                                              
Office of  Children's Services, and  the criminal  justice system.                                                              
She urged  the committee  to support  the SB  76, and other  bills                                                              
like it,  stating it address a  long-standing need that  will help                                                              
Alaskans with complex needs thrive in their communities.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:27:57 PM                                                                                                                    
MICHELLE OVERSTREET,  Chief Executive Officer, My  House, Wasilla,                                                              
Alaska, testified in  support of SB 76. She testified  that Alaska                                                              
faces  a dire  need for  supportive housing  for individuals  with                                                              
disabilities  as they receive  recovery services.  She echoed  the                                                              
concerns shared by  Mr. Wallace and Ms. Elkhill,  emphasizing that                                                              
this  population needs  structured support  to heal  and that  the                                                              
current  gap  in  housing  leads to  continued  trauma  and  risk,                                                              
including  death. She  stated that  while  the proposed  statutory                                                              
changes may  carry a  cost, the savings  from reduced  reliance on                                                              
crisis  services  and  avoidance  of  additional  harm  would  far                                                              
outweigh  them.  She shared  that  her organization  serves  youth                                                              
ages  14  to 24,  many  of  whom  are impacted  by  fetal  alcohol                                                              
spectrum  disorders  (FAS/FASD), attention  deficit  hyperactivity                                                              
disorder (ADHD),  traumatic brain  injuries, and other  behavioral                                                              
health and  medical conditions.  A significant  number are  trauma                                                              
survivors,  including  victims  of   incest,  child  rape,  sexual                                                              
assault,  domestic   violence,  and   neglect.  She   described  a                                                              
recurring  pattern where  clients cycle  between emergency  rooms,                                                              
residential care,  inpatient treatment, and  correctional settings                                                              
due to the lack  of supportive housing at discharge.  She gave the                                                              
example  of a current  client, an  incest survivor,  staying  at a                                                              
shelter in Anchorage  after spending three months  in a behavioral                                                              
health  unit, with  no suitable  placement  available. She  stated                                                              
that without  housing support, this  individual remains  in danger                                                              
and struggles to  maintain services. She expressed  strong support                                                              
for SB  76, stating  that the opportunity  to establish  this type                                                              
of housing could help save lives.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:30:27 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DUNBAR closed public testimony on SB 76.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:31:20 PM                                                                                                                    
EMILY  RICCI, Deputy  Commissioner,  Department  of Health  (DOH),                                                              
Juneau, Alaska, put  herself on the record to  answer questions on                                                              
SB 60.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:31:30 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES  stated that the  testimony provided made  the need                                                              
for SB  76 clear, particularly  in light  of the risks  of placing                                                              
individuals   in   inappropriate   environments  like   jails   or                                                              
hospitals.   She   emphasized  the   severity   of   consequences,                                                              
including the risk  of death, when individuals  with complex needs                                                              
are not  placed in  proper care settings.  She questioned  whether                                                              
the  limit  of  15  residents  per home  contained  in  SB  76  is                                                              
appropriate,  especially  given  the  testimony  about  increasing                                                              
need.  While acknowledging  that  15 residents  may  fill a  large                                                              
home,  she  raised  the  possibility  of  multiple  homes  sharing                                                              
common  areas,  such as  a  courtyard,  and  asked if  that  would                                                              
require   a   different   licensing    approach.   She   requested                                                              
clarification  on  whether  the  15-resident  limit  is  based  on                                                              
research  or regulatory constraints  and whether  a higher  number                                                              
could be considered if proper staffing ratios are maintained.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:33:04 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. RICCI explained  that the limit  of 15 residents is  tied to a                                                              
federal  requirement  related to  Medicaid  funding,  specifically                                                              
the  "Institution  for  Mental  Disease"   (IMD)  exclusion.  This                                                              
exclusion  restricts   how  Medicaid  dollars  can   be  used  for                                                              
facilities  with  16 or  more  beds  that serve  individuals  with                                                              
mental   health   conditions.   She  stated   that   to   maintain                                                              
eligibility  for  Medicaid  funding,  residential  long-term  care                                                              
settings   must  remain   under   that  16-bed   threshold.   This                                                              
constraint is  why the bill  proposes a  cap of 15 residents.  She                                                              
added that  other states with  similar programs also  commonly use                                                              
this limit for the same reason, even though program models vary.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:34:11 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  HUGHES  asked  whether,   under  SB  76,  multiple  homes                                                              
clustered  on  a  shared courtyard  would  each  require  separate                                                              
licenses,  even  if operated  by  a  single business  entity.  She                                                              
assumed this  could be the  case and requested clarification.  She                                                              
mentioned  significant  permitting   delays  for  assisted  living                                                              
homes,  acknowledging  that while  this  is  a new  license  type,                                                              
similar  issues   could  arise.   She  expressed  hope   that  the                                                              
licensing  process for  complex care  residential  homes would  be                                                              
more  efficient and  not take  months to  complete. She  requested                                                              
information on  the expected processing  time for  licensure under                                                              
SB 76 and  confirmation that one  business owner would  be allowed                                                              
to operate multiple licensed homes.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:35:10 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. RICCI responded  that the specific licensure  requirements for                                                              
complex care residential  homes, including whether  multiple homes                                                              
on a shared  property can be  operated by a single  business, will                                                              
be  promulgate  regulation.  She  noted that  careful  design  and                                                              
implementation  will  be  necessary   to  ensure  compliance  with                                                              
federal requirements.  She explained that  while SB 76  allows for                                                              
homes with  up to  15 beds, the  Department anticipates  tailoring                                                              
bed capacity  through regulation  based on the population  served.                                                              
For example,  smaller settings may  be more appropriate  for youth                                                              
or individuals with severe needs.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  RICCI said  regarding concerns  about  licensing delays,  she                                                              
clarified that  assisted living home  licensure is handled  by the                                                              
Division  of Health  Care Services,  which  includes two  sections                                                              
for licensing:  one for  health facilities  (e.g., hospitals)  and                                                              
another for residential  licensing (e.g., assisted  living homes).                                                              
She  acknowledged  that residential  licensing  faced  significant                                                              
staffing shortages  in FY24,  with a vacancy  rate between  29 and                                                              
31  percent. However,  the  Department has  been  working to  fill                                                              
positions and,  as of three  weeks ago, residential  licensing had                                                              
only  one  vacancy  remaining.  She  said  that  while  many  team                                                              
members are new  and still in training, improvements  are underway                                                              
to  speed up  the licensing  process.  She added  that  SB 76,  as                                                              
written,  considers  the  licensing of  complex  care  residential                                                              
homes  to   fall  under  the   health  facilities   licensing  and                                                              
certification  sectiondistinct   from  the  residential  licensing                                                              
section that manages assisted living homes.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:38:24 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DUNBAR held SB 76 in committee.                                                                                           

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