Legislature(2025 - 2026)SENATE FINANCE 532

04/10/2025 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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+ SB 44 MINORS & PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITALS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+ SB 76 COMPLEX CARE RESIDENTIAL HOMES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+ SB 69 SEXUAL ASSAULT EXAMINATION KITS/TRACKING TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+= HB 56 APPROP: SUPP; FUND CAP; CAP; AMENDING TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled but Not Heard
+ HB 69 EDUCATION: FUNDING, SCHOOLS, DEVICES TELECONFERENCED
Moved SCS CSHB 69(FIN) Out of Committee
Uniform Rule 23 Waived
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+= SB 57 APPROP: CAPITAL/SUPPLEMENTAL/FUNDS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
SENATE BILL NO. 76                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to complex care residential homes;                                                                        
     and providing for an effective date."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:03:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
EMILY  RICCI,  DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT  OF  HEALTH,                                                                    
(DOH) introduced herself. She  explained that the department                                                                    
was  working on  the  bill in  close  coordination with  the                                                                    
Department of Family and Community Services (DFCS).                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
DR.  BOB  LAWRENCE,  CHIEF MEDICAL  OFFICER,  DEPARTMENT  OF                                                                    
HEALTH, discussed a presentation  entitled  State of Alaska,                                                                    
Department of  Health,  Department  of Family  and Community                                                                    
Services,  SB  76: COMPLEX CARE RESIDENTIAL  HOMES(copy   on                                                                    
file).  He  looked at  slide  2,  "SB 76  Supports  Alaska's                                                                    
System of Care                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     SB 76 strengthens Alaska's health care system,                                                                             
     enabling Alaskans to access services in settings                                                                           
     tailored to their specific care needs.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Lawrence addressed slide 3, "What Is Complex Care?                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Definition: Co-occurring behavioral, medical, or                                                                           
     disability-related    needs    requiring    a    multi-                                                                    
     disciplinary team and multiple programs.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Vision:    A   coordinated    system   that    delivers                                                                    
     compassionate, timely, and person-centered care for                                                                        
     the most vulnerable and complex Alaskans.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Lawrence pointed to slide 4, "What Is Complex Care?                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Behavioral health conditions                                                                                               
     Disruptive behaviors                                                                                                       
     Carceral system involvement                                                                                                
     Out of state treatment                                                                                                     
     Psychiatric hospitalization                                                                                                
     Public safety encounters                                                                                                   
     Co-occurring medical conditions                                                                                            
     Frequent emergency department visits                                                                                       
     Harm to self or others                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci discussed slide 5, "What Does SB 76 Do?                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     SB 76 creates the necessary statutory framework to                                                                         
     allow the Department of Health to license and regulate                                                                     
     a new setting:                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Complex Care Residential Homes (CCRHs)                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci relayed  that the  department envisioned  the new                                                                    
setting to  be homelike,  based in  the community,  and with                                                                    
multi-disciplinary  support  and consistent  monitoring  for                                                                    
individuals.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:07:51 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci pointed to slide 6,  "CCRHs Fill a Gap in the Care                                                                    
Continuum                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     There is a gap in Alaska's current continuum of care                                                                       
     for ongoing, specialized residential settings.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci  drew attention to  more acute settings  listed on                                                                    
the  right-hand side  of  the  slide, including  psychiatric                                                                    
hospitals or  residential psychiatric treatment  centers for                                                                    
youth. The  left-hand side  of the  slide showed  less acute                                                                    
settings for care, which relied  on funding and support from                                                                    
the department's  Home and Community Based  Waiver services.                                                                    
She continued  that there was  a small group  of individuals                                                                    
with severe behavioral and medical  needs. There may be some                                                                    
cognitive  impairment, but  the level  did not  qualify them                                                                    
for  the waiver.  For the  individuals, she  identified that                                                                    
the  system was  struggling  to  find appropriate  discharge                                                                    
care,  and a  greater amount  of  care was  needed than  was                                                                    
currently available in the system.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Kiehl  recalled   that  the   previous  year   the                                                                    
legislature  passed  a  bill in  which  the  department  had                                                                    
worked on  creating a different  category of home.  He asked                                                                    
how the new category fit into what she was describing.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci  replied that the  new "Adult Host  Homes" license                                                                    
was  created with  statutory support  the previous  year and                                                                    
would  fit  under the  waiver  between  the assisted  living                                                                    
homes  and complex  care  homes.  Currently the  individuals                                                                    
supported in the bill did  not meet the requirements for the                                                                    
Home and Community Based Waiver system.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:11:20 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Ricci  looked   at  slide   7,  "Establishing   a  New                                                                    
Residential Setting                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Identify Needs and Define Scope                                                                                            
     Create New License Type                                                                                                    
     Determine Services to be Provided                                                                                          
     Establish Reimbursement Mechanisms                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci  identified that next steps  would include working                                                                    
with   the  people   currently   providing   care  for   the                                                                    
individuals in question.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Lawrence  pointed to  slide 8,  "Who Would  Benefit from                                                                    
CCRHs?                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Youth                                                                                                                      
     Multiple behavioral health diagnoses                                                                                       
     Treatment in an out-of-state facility                                                                                      
     Adult                                                                                                                      
     Severe and persistent mental illness                                                                                       
     Frequent hospital visits and self harm history                                                                             
     Senior                                                                                                                     
     Dementia with behavioral health diagnoses                                                                                  
     Does not qualify for Medicaid waiver services                                                                              
     Fetal alcohol and autism spectrum disorders                                                                                
     Cognitive impairment                                                                                                       
     Highly disruptive behaviors                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Lawrence looked at slide 9, "Key Features of a CCRH                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     CCRHs will offer a new residential care setting in                                                                         
     Alaska.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Fewer than 15 residents                                                                                                    
     24/7 care from a multi-disciplinary team                                                                                   
     More  supportive than  assisted living  homes and  less                                                                    
     restrictive than a psychiatric hospital                                                                                    
     Specialized monitoring,  intervention, and/or treatment                                                                    
     to meet the needs of residents                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Lawrence emphasized that the new care setting proposed                                                                      
in the bill would be adaptable.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Lawrence spoke to slide 10, "Benefits of a CCRH                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
         Improves care for Alaskans with complex needs                                                                       
         Adds a license type for home-like settings that                                                                     
          offer care in the most clinically appropriate                                                                         
          environment                                                                                                           
         Allows for service specialization and for                                                                           
          specific requirements to be set forth in                                                                              
          regulations                                                                                                           
         Promotes community safety by offering a new                                                                         
          service setting for individuals with complex                                                                          
          behavioral health needs                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Lawrence  qualified that  the  new  care setting  being                                                                    
proposed  would offer  care beyond  an assisted  living home                                                                    
but  not so  restricted in  a hospital  or psychiatric  care                                                                    
facility.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:15:00 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci discussed slide 11, "Sectional Analysis                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1. Amends AS 47.32.010(b)  to add "complex care                                                                    
     residential homes"  to the  list of  entities regulated                                                                    
     by the Department of Health.                                                                                               
     Section  2.  Amends  AS   47.32.900(2)  to  update  the                                                                    
     definition  of   "assisted  living  home"   to  exclude                                                                    
     complex care residential homes.                                                                                            
     Section  3.   Adds  AS  47.32.900(11)  to   modify  the                                                                    
     definition of  "hospital" to clarify  that it  does not                                                                    
     include complex care residential homes.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci pointed to slide 12, "Sectional Analysis                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section  4. Adds  AS 47.32.900(22)  to introduce  a new                                                                    
     definition for  "complex care residential home."  It is                                                                    
     defined as a residential  setting that provides 24-hour                                                                    
     multi-disciplinary care  on a  continuing basis  for up                                                                    
     to 15 individuals with  mental, behavioral, medical, or                                                                    
     disability-related  needs  requiring specialized  care,                                                                    
     services and monitoring.                                                                                                   
     Section 5.  Amends the uncodified  law by adding  a new                                                                    
     section  that  requires  the Department  of  Health  to                                                                    
     submit for approval by the  United States Department of                                                                    
     Health  and  Human  Services amendments  to  the  state                                                                    
     Medicaid  plan  or  apply   for  waivers  necessary  to                                                                    
     implement the provisions of Sections 1-4.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci looked at slide 13, "Sectional Analysis                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Section 6.  Amends the uncodified  law by adding  a new                                                                    
     section specifying  that sections 1-4 of  the bill will                                                                    
     only  take effect  if the  United States  Department of                                                                    
     Health  and   Human  Services  approves   the  required                                                                    
     Medicaid  waivers or  amendments by  July 1,  2031. The                                                                    
     commissioner  of  health  is  required  to  notify  the                                                                    
     reviser of  statutes within 30 days  once the necessary                                                                    
     approvals are received.                                                                                                    
     Section 7.  Provides that sections 1-4  take effect the                                                                    
     day after  the United  States Department of  Health and                                                                    
     Human Services  approves amendments  to the  state plan                                                                    
     or waivers submitted under Section 5.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kaufman looked  at the fiscal notes  and asked about                                                                    
federal funds. He  asked if there were  any potential issues                                                                    
with funding.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci replied  that the  department did  not anticipate                                                                    
any issues but  was still building out  funding sources from                                                                    
a  Medicaid   perspective.  One   of  the  aspects   of  the                                                                    
populations  that  was  particularly  challenging  was  that                                                                    
there  were   individuals  with  very  specific   needs  and                                                                    
specific  demographics. She  discussed a  category of  youth                                                                    
with   disruptive  behaviors   but   did   not  qualify   or                                                                    
developmental  or   intellectual  disability   waivers.  She                                                                    
discussed   a  category   of  adults   with  severe   eating                                                                    
disorders,  that  were  more   extreme  than  was  typically                                                                    
imagined  and  needed  specialized   care  in  a  structured                                                                    
setting.  She  discussed  adults   with  dementia  that  had                                                                    
inappropriate  behaviors that  the  Alask  Pioneer Home  and                                                                    
others could  not care for.  For the groups, there  could be                                                                    
certain Medicaid waivers to cover  the care that was needed.                                                                    
She  relayed  that  the department  would  be  working  with                                                                    
consultants to  identify the different Medicaid  waivers and                                                                    
funding streams that aligned with each of the needs.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:19:08 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kaufman  asked if there was  anticipation of getting                                                                    
more clarity on  funding streams that might  be reflected in                                                                    
revised fiscal notes.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci relayed  that the  current available  information                                                                    
the department  had was reflected  in the fiscal  notes. She                                                                    
noted  that  the  department  intended   to  build  out  the                                                                    
certification,   funding,  and   services  with   providers,                                                                    
stakeholders, and contractual experts.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl asked about the  zero Medicaid services fiscal                                                                    
note. He asked  if the department anticipated  that the note                                                                    
would really be indeterminate.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci relayed  that the  fiscal note  was zero  because                                                                    
many  of the  individuals  in question  were receiving  very                                                                    
high-cost  care  that  was paid  for  through  the  Medicaid                                                                    
program. She added that also  any waivers the state would be                                                                    
considering   there   was   a  federal   budget   neutrality                                                                    
requirement. For  those reasons  the department  thought the                                                                    
fiscal note would be zero.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:21:19 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman OPENED public testimony.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:21:38 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MICHELLE  BAKER,  EXECUTIVE   VICE  PRESIDENT,  SOUTHCENTRAL                                                                    
FOUNDATION,  ANCHORAGE  (via teleconference),  testified  in                                                                    
support  of the  legislation. She  worked in  the behavioral                                                                    
services  division.   She  mentioned  adults   and  children                                                                    
awaiting  to   be  discharged  from  the   hospital  without                                                                    
residential services  with complex  care services.  She gave                                                                    
examples of  individuals that needed  complex care  that was                                                                    
not  currently available.  She recommended  an amendment  to                                                                    
the bill  and referenced  Section 4,  line 10,  and removing                                                                    
"not more than 15." She  reasoned that removing the language                                                                    
would  give  providers  more   flexibility  to  think  about                                                                    
clinical service delivery models.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:25:52 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DAVID  WILSON,  DIRECTOR  OF  PUBLIC  POLICY,  MATSU  HEALTH                                                                    
FOUNDATION, WASILLA  (via teleconference), spoke  in support                                                                    
of the legislation. He thought the  bill was a vital step in                                                                    
providing required  care. He  thought the  bill would  set a                                                                    
standard for excellence  in care. He echoed  the comments of                                                                    
the  previous testifier  regarding amended  language in  the                                                                    
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:27:52 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
JARED KOSIN,  PRESIDENT AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE  OFFICER, ALASKA                                                                    
HOSPITAL   AND   HEALTHCARE  ASSOCIATION,   ANCHORAGE   (via                                                                    
teleconference), testified in support  of the bill. He cited                                                                    
that one out  of every seven hospital beds in  the state was                                                                    
occupied by individuals that needed  to go but had no option                                                                    
for appropriate care to transition  to. He urged the passage                                                                    
of the bill.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:29:00 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ISAAC  SMOLDON, COMMUNICATIONS  DIRECTOR, MY  HOUSE, WASILLA                                                                    
(via teleconference),  spoke in support of  the legislation.                                                                    
He believed the  legislation would allow My  House to better                                                                    
serve its clients.  He urged the committee to  pass the bill                                                                    
as soon as possible.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl reviewed  the fiscal notes. He  addressed FN 1                                                                    
from  DOH, OMB  Component 2665.  He detailed  that an  FY 26                                                                    
cost of  $153,200 and  one full-time  position with  an even                                                                    
funding  split between  federal  receipts  and General  Fund                                                                    
(GF)  match. The  amount leveled  off at  $150,200 with  the                                                                    
same funding composition.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl addressed  FN 2 from DOH,  OMB Component 2944.                                                                    
The note reflected  a first cost in FY 27  of $197,100 split                                                                    
almost 50/50 between  federal receipts and GF  match for one                                                                    
full-time nurse consultant position.  The amount leveled off                                                                    
the  following  year  slightly higher  with  $204,100  going                                                                    
forward.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Kiehl addressed  FN 3  from DOH  Medicaid Services,                                                                    
OMB Component 3234, which had zero fiscal impact.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Lawrence thanked the committee.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci thanked the committee.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SB  76  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:32:17 AM                                                                                                                   
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:35:27 AM                                                                                                                   
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 44 Research - DOH follow-up to SHSS questions 1.28.25.pdf SFIN 4/10/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 44
SB 44 Testimony - Support received as of 2.17.25.pdf SFIN 4/10/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 44
SB 44 Testimony - Amend from Citizens Commission on Human Rights 1.30.25.pdf SFIN 4/10/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 44
SB 44 Research - Alaska Disability Law Center Findings 10.06.04.pdf SFIN 4/10/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 44
SB 44 Explanation of Changes Version A to Version N 2.5.25.pdf SFIN 4/10/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 44
SB 44 Sectional Analysis Version N 2.17.25.pdf SFIN 4/10/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 44
SB 44 Sponsor Statement Version N 2.17.25.pdf SFIN 4/10/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 44
SB 44 version N Senate Finance Committee Hearing Request 2.17.25.pdf SFIN 4/10/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 44
SB 44 Research - DOJ Investigation of the State of Alaska's Behavioral Health System for Children 12.15.22.pdf SFIN 4/10/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 44
SB 76 Presentation SHSS_2025.02.06.pdf SFIN 4/10/2025 9:00:00 AM
SHSS 2/6/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 76
SB 76 Sectional Analysis Version A.pdf SFIN 4/10/2025 9:00:00 AM
SHSS 2/6/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 76
SB 76 Bill Summary Version A.pdf SFIN 4/10/2025 9:00:00 AM
SHSS 2/6/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 76
SB 76 Transmittal Letter.pdf SFIN 4/10/2025 9:00:00 AM
SHSS 2/6/2025 3:30:00 PM
SB 76
SB 76 Testimony ACoA-HB73-SB76Signed.pdf SFIN 4/10/2025 9:00:00 AM
HB 73
SB 76
SB 69 Transmittal Letter 1.21.2025.pdf SFIN 4/10/2025 9:00:00 AM
SJUD 2/3/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 69
SB 69 Sectional Analysis version A 1.31.25.pdf SFIN 4/10/2025 9:00:00 AM
SJUD 2/3/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 69
SB 69 Letters of Support Version A 2.19.25.pdf SFIN 4/10/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 69
SB 69 Support Letter AFN 3.12.25.pdf SFIN 4/10/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 69
HB 69 Public Testimony Packet 2.pdf SFIN 4/10/2025 9:00:00 AM
HB 69
HB 69 Public Testimony Packet 1.pdf SFIN 4/10/2025 9:00:00 AM
HB 69
HB 69 workdraft ver. U.pdf SFIN 4/10/2025 9:00:00 AM
HB 69
HB 69 Explanation of Changes ver. Q to ver. U.pdf SFIN 4/10/2025 9:00:00 AM
HB 69
SB 57 041025 Attachment B SCS2T to GovAmdT No MH ProjectCompareByAgency 4-9-25.pdf SFIN 4/10/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 57
SB 57 041025 Attachement C SCS2T no MH ProjectDetailByAgency 4-9-25.pdf SFIN 4/10/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 57
SB 57 041025 Attachment A SCS2T no MH StatewideTotals 4-9-25.pdf SFIN 4/10/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 57
SB 57 work draft version T.pdf SFIN 4/10/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 57
SB 69 2025 DPS SFIN SB 69 Presentation.pdf SFIN 4/10/2025 9:00:00 AM
SB 69
HB 69 Testimony Packet 9.pdf SFIN 4/10/2025 9:00:00 AM
HB 69
HB 69 Testimony Packet 8.pdf SFIN 4/10/2025 9:00:00 AM
HB 69
HB 69 Testimony Packet 6.pdf SFIN 4/10/2025 9:00:00 AM
HB 69
HB 69 Testimony Packet 5.pdf SFIN 4/10/2025 9:00:00 AM
HB 69
HB 69 Testimony Packet 4.pdf SFIN 4/10/2025 9:00:00 AM
HB 69
HB 69 Testimony Packet 3 (2).pdf SFIN 4/10/2025 9:00:00 AM
HB 69
HB 69 Testimony Packet 7.pdf SFIN 4/10/2025 9:00:00 AM
HB 69